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My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by madjnr: 4:11pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
Also, whether or not Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him died from a poison, this still would not prove your theory that he's a fake prophet of God... But rather proves it , because the Jews in general are responsible for killing Prophets: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (From the KJV Bible, Matthew 23:37) " Jesus himself recognized that the Jews kill the Prophets. So even if we were to assume that Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was killed through poisoning by the Jews, this still would not nullify Islam, nor prove it to be a false religion Allah Almighty did a Miracle prophet Muhammad didn't die from the poison... The Jewish woman gave him.... And that incident happened there years prior to his death... So it doesn't count... Your logic is invalid |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by Annunaki(m): 4:57pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
First of all prove to us that mohamed is a genuine prophet. Jesus in the bible told us that we can tell a genuine prophet by the fruits he exhibits and going by the fruits of armed robbery, rape, murder, paedophilia, adultery, incest and deceit mohamed portrayed the best I can conclude is that he was satan's prophet if indeed he was a prophet at all. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by malvisguy212: 5:12pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
madjnr:Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 713: Narrated ‘Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he DIED, used to say, “O ‘Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.” Sahih bukhari hadith is one of the authentic hadith, it is either you are right and bukari is wrong. Here is one interesting thing here: Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 427: Narrated ‘Aisha and ‘Abdullah bin ‘Abbas: When the last moment of the life of Allah’s Apostle came he started putting his ‘Khamisa’ on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said , “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they BUILT THE PLACE OF WORSHIP AT THE GRAVE OF THEIR PROPHET.” This is very funny and interesting, were is muhammed buried? what did the Muslims do with Muhammed’s tomb after his death? Muslims built a mosque on his tomb. His grave became a place for Muslim pilgrims to visit in Medina annually. The Prophet’s tomb at Medina is, after Mecca, the site most venerated by Muslims. It is visited with reverence in the hearts of the faithful. Ironically, these Muslims fell into the very class of people, upon whom Muhammad beseeched Allah’s curse. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by madjnr: 5:19pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
malvisguy212: |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by madjnr: 5:29pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
, 389.
2 – Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih
al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on
him) was asked about the ruling on praying
in a mosque in which there is a grave.
He replied:
Praying in a mosque in which there is a
grave falls into two categories:
(i) Either the grave was there before the
mosque, and the mosque was built over the
grave. It is essential to shun this mosque
and not pray therein, and the one who built it
must knock it down; if he does not do so,
then the Muslim authorities must knock it
down.
(ii) Or the mosque was there before the
grave, and the deceased was buried after the
mosque was built. In the case the grave
must be dug up, and the remains taken out
and buried with the people (in the graveyard).
As for praying in such a mosque, it is
permissible so long as the grave is not in
front of the worshipper, because the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)
forbade praying in the direction of graves.
With regard to the grave of the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)
which is incorporated into his mosque, it is
well known that the Mosque of the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)
was built before his death, and was not built
over his grave. It is also well known that
the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be
upon him) was not buried in the mosque,
rather he was buried in his house which was
separate from the mosque. At the time of al-
Waleed ibn ‘Abd al-Malik he wrote to his
governor in Madeenah, who was ‘Umar ibn
‘Abd al-‘Azeez, in 88 AH, ordering him to
dismantle the Prophet’s Mosque and add to
it the rooms of the wives of the Prophet
(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
‘Umar gathered the prominent people and
fuqaha’, and read the letter of the caliph al-
Waleed to them. That caused them distress,
and they said: “Leave it as it is, that is
better.” And it was narrated that Sa’eed
ibn al-Musayyib denounced the incorporation
of ‘Aa’ishah’s room into the mosque, as if
he feared that the grave would be taken as
a place of worship.
Umar wrote a letter to that effect to al-
Waleed, and al-Waleed sent word to him
ordering him to carry out his instructions, so
‘Umar had no other choice. So you see that
the grave of the Prophet (peace and blessings
of Allaah be upon him) was not placed in the
mosque, and the mosque was not built over
it, so there are no grounds for those who
try to quote this as evidence that people may
be buried inside mosques or that mosques
may be built over graves.
It is proven that the Prophet (peace and
blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “May
the curse of Allaah be upon the Jews and the
Christians; they have taken the graves of
their Prophets as places of worship.” He said
that as he was dying, as a warning to his
ummah against doing what they did. When
Umm Salamah told him of a church that she
had seen in Ethiopia and the images therein,
he said: “Those people, if a righteous man
among them died, they would build a place of
worship over his grave. They are the most
evil of people before Allaah.” And it was
narrated from Ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be
pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and
blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“Among the most evil of people upon whom
the Hour will come when they are still alive
are those who take graves as places of
worship.” Narrated by Imam Ahmad with a
jayyid isnaad.
The believer should not accept to follow the
ways of the Jews and the Christians, or to
be among the most evil of people. |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by malvisguy212: 5:38pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
^^^ trash.muhammed curse those who pray in prophet tomb and muslims fall in that category. 3 Likes |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by madjnr: 5:42pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
malvisguy212: ... Your false claim was refuted |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by malvisguy212: 5:47pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
madjnr:Let the truth be sealed in your heart in Jesus name. Amen. 2 Likes |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by Annunaki(m): 6:49pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
madjnr: Telling lies and obfuscating issues like you did is not a refute. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by madjnr: 7:21pm On Oct 18, 2015 |
Annunaki: If my post is indeed a lie . Expose me to the world.... Counter what i said or remain quiet... |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by Anas09: 8:55am On Oct 19, 2015 |
@madjnr So were Mohammads bones removed from his grave before the Mosque was build in that cite? If yes, why are Muslims all over the World trooping to that particular mosque to worship? |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by parisbookaddict(f): 2:32pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
madjnr: so ur muslim mind thinks this rant is a rebuttal 3 Likes |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by Annunaki(m): 3:10pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: The clowns think obfuscating issues is a Rebuttal 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by plappville(f): 4:17pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Annunaki: , i can only laugh ...when i see the truth... 2 Likes |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by plappville(f): 4:18pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
madjnr: What did you refute?? |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by plappville(f): 4:36pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Ummm, OP ran to the bible for help... Who is a false prophet? The bible tells us how to know them. Muhammad fits in. Since Muhammad has fulfilled several false prophets verses in the bible. Muhammad cant be sent by Christ. Matthew 7:15-2015 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. What fruits did muhammed gave? Alquaida, isis, bokoharam, islamic talibans etc..there is no peace in different places in the world today. See islamis countries for example. Its always bomb and gun shot. Kids are exposed to violence. Is this a good fruit to you? How can you defend muhammed when the coran is so plain! See how muslims are suffering in a no mans land in the European borders. In a weather almost 5° degree cold. Women with babies Is this not the fruit of Muhammad that is putting these poor people in auch a condition? You are in ur warm bedroom or office typing to defend him why others are dying. See how brainwashed you people are. Saudi the Almighty holi sity of islam cannot even take responsibilities of Muslims at thier darkend. They are all running to the West for shelter. How good is this fruit of yours Islam... 2 Likes |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by Annunaki(m): 5:35pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
plappville: This muslims actually need our pity more than rebuke as it's very difficult to leave cult especially when you are born into it. They are living in bondage yet they have no idea. 1 Like |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by madjnr: 5:46pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Anas09:Did you read my post at all |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by madjnr: 5:49pm On Oct 19, 2015 |
Plappyville annuaki and parisbookadict I can see you're confuse.... You're diverting away from the real topic of the thread... Which I have address.... And you're conjuring up another false claim.... Let's face the topic of the thread first.... |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by plappville(f): 10:13pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
madjnr: You cannot tag Islam with the bible. First Muhammad denied Jesus death etc. And the bible told us to beware of such religion (islam). Islam preach Isa. Not Jesus of the bible. Same bible u claimed was corrupted you use to tag ur prophet to your favour. Can't u use ur sense? A spoilt food is poisoning. U can't take some part and throw away the other part. Leave our book alone. Its corrupted according to Muhammad (SBUH). 1 Like |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by parisbookaddict(f): 2:31am On Oct 28, 2015 |
plappville: Actually mohammed never said the bible is corrupted. Only todays muslims say that.. mohammed disagreed with a number of Christian and jewish believes but he insisted his followers go to the torah and injeel for truth ..yet they now claim its corrupt.. |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by madjnr: 6:29am On Oct 28, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by Annunaki(m): 9:21am On Oct 28, 2015 |
parisbookaddict: Yeah they had to come up with the story line when modern Muslims discovered a lot of errors and inconsistencies in the quoran Rather than admit the quoran is wrong they deceitfully decided to tag the bible as corrupt to keep their followers in darkness |
Re: My Rebuttal To A Thread On Why Did Allah Allow The Prophet Die From The Poison by mahdino: 12:38pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
Annunaki: The word "Muhammad" in the Bible (in Original Hebrew) The name "Muhammad" is written in the Bible in the original Hebrew language. In the 5th chapter of the Shir haShirim ( שיר השירים ), which is one of the five megilot or Sacred Scrolls that are part of the Hebrew Bible or for short the "Song of Solomon" (also called "Song of Songs". That chapter is giving a prophecy about an individual to come, a mystery man. Song of Songs 5:15 compares this prophetic mystery man to the land of "Lebanon" which is the land of the Arabs. This implies that the mystery man would be an Arab. Verse 15 of the NIV Bible says: “His appearance is like Lebanon", so this is an Arabic gentleman (or Arab looking). Verse 11 says: "his head is as the most fine gold, his locks are wavy, and black as a raven". Verse 10 describes this man as being "radiant and ruddy" which means he was slightly light-skinned with a rosy color. This physical description matches exactly with the authentic Islamic sources. Sahih Al Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 747, says Muhammad was slightly light skinned, with a rosy color (and has the same hair as is mentioned in verse 11) Song of Songs 5:10 says: "My beloved is white and ruddy, pre-eminent above ten thousand." This is a prophecy of Prophet Muhammad as he conquered Mecca. It is a well known historically documented fact that in the year 630 CE Muhammad entered Mecca as the leader of an army of "ten thousand men". In reading the English translation of Song of Songs 5:16 it finishes the description by saying: "He is altogether lovely" but what most people don't know is that the name of that man was given in the original megilot. Here is the name written in ancient Hebrew as it appears in verse sixteen: מחמד . It is read as : "Mahammad". Hebrew: חִכּוֹ, מַמְתַקִּים, וְכֻלּוֹ, מַחֲמַדִּים; זֶה דוֹדִי וְזֶה רֵעִי, בְּנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִָם. English: His mouth is most sweet; yea, he is ALTOGETHER LOVELY. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem. There is a plural used together with this Hebrew word, with the plural it’s pronounced “Mahamadd-im”. The ending letters 'im' is a plural of respect, majesty and grandeur for God’s prophet, just as in the word Eloh-im. According to Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary, it is correctly pronounced as "Mahammad". If you don't believe me, go to these translator links, paste the name מחמד and then translate it into English. You will see that מחמד is translated as "Muhammad". http://www.freetranslation.com/ http://worldlingo.com/en/products_servi … lator.html You can also see and listen to the Song of Songs in its original form, in Hebrew where Muhammad is mentioned by name in the below link (please notice the "im" in Hebrew is a plural of respect): http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt3005.htm Watch the whole video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3sZfPwv1g |
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