Eastbay:

biina,
thierry Henry,Glenn hoddle,Sam allardyce,Zidane,Shearer,Venables,Edgar Davids,Cesc Fabregas,Tony Adams,eidur gudjohnnsen,Patrick vieira cannot be United admirers by any stretch of the imagination.
That list is as wide in range as it possibly can be.and while you're at it,let's add Stam,Schmeichel and Cantona to the list,so we don't say it's only the English guys.

biina:

Quotes that never got him a globally recognized individual honor?
You must be high on something free.

what about Roy keane? was he on your list? or at the age of 22 and playing for 2 clubs over 4 yrs he is still being groomed? Keane  was developed before he joined ManU or where was SAF when Keane was joining Nottingham.

Dynasty? we are not talking about the premiership my friend nor are we even talking about the manU as a team. Simply provide examples that SAF grooms world class players, shikena!

Again missing the point. English is not as hard as you make it seem. Wenger is better at spotting talent. Shikena.
Never said anything about winning titles.

~Sauron~:

His input wasn't fractionate by any means. . . . .
Hargreaves played in many positions for Man Utd in their quest to cop the European Double in 2008.
Right back, midfield, right winger, etc.
Ronaldo missed his penalty kick in Moscow. . . . .Hargo scored his own to haul United back in the shoot-out.
What else is he expected to contribute? He played in all the 120 mins in Moscow without copping a red card like Drogba.

You have just rambled on and on without coming up with a decent and precise answer! Are you Titus BRAMBLE in disguise?
You are telling me Hargo's input wasnt fractionate? SMH. . . . .You are deluded!
Ronaldo missed his kick so what? he lifted United on his back most of the time anyway
Has Hargo lifted United on his back at any time during his failed OT career so far?

MrCrackles:

You have just rambled on and on without coming up with a decent and precise answer! Are you Titus BRAMBLE in disguise?
You are telling me Hargo's input wasnt fractionate? SMH. . . . .You are deluded!
Ronaldo missed his kick so what? he lifted United on his back most of the time anyway
Has Hargo lifted United on his back at any time during his failed OT career so far?

~Sauron~:

He did.
Against Arsenal at OT. . . . .Match tied at 1-1. . . .
A draw for United woulda meant Chelsea leap-frogging and Hargo's precise freekick won ALL the 3 points for Man Utd.
Do i need to jog your memory everytime?

Does a goal justify £18 milli ?
R u trying to tell me Hargo lifted United on his back with one goal?
Do you just enjoy rambling on and on without making much sense when it comes to Manchester United issues or what?
I am not convinced with your ramblings on the Hargo issue so i will suspend the debate. . . . . . .You have failed to come up with anything sensible
CASE CLOSED

biina:

@Sauron
ROTFLMAO
That list is simply hilarious.
A bunch of culled statement out of context from predominantly manU folks is what you have to show that he is a great player
What next, letters from his school teacher?

MrCrackles:

Does a goal justify £18 milli ?
R u trying to tell me Hargo lifted United on his back with one goal?
Do you just enjoy rambling on and on without making much sense when it comes to Manchester United issues or what?
I am not convinced with your ramblings on the Hargo issue so i will suspend the debate. . . . . . .You have failed to come up with anything sensibe
CASE CLOSED

~Sauron~:

He did.
Against Arsenal at OT. . . . .Match tied at 1-1. . . .
A draw for United woulda meant Chelsea leap-frogging and Hargo's precise freekick won ALL the 3 points for Man Utd.
Do i need to jog your memory everytime?

biina:



Quotes that never got him a globally recognized individual honor?
You must be high on something free.

Dynasty? we are not talking about the premiership my friend nor are we even talking about the manU as a team. Simply provide examples that SAF grooms world class players, shikena!
Again missing the point. English is not as hard as you make it seem. Wenger is better at spotting talent. Shikena.
Never said anything about winning titles.

~Sauron~:

Read Henry's quote. . . . .
For someone prattling about English comprehension, you have let me down.

You are a retard. . . . .
When Ferguson bought Roy Keane, there was no guarantee he would be in the first team.
He had the potential and nothing else. . . . . . .Go and read his book.
Fergie turned Roy Keane to a world beater. . . . .What makes me antsy is DSTV fans like you pretending to be knowledgeable.
The fact that Roy joined Man Utd at 22 does not mean he wasn't groomed by Ferguson: Read a book!!!

Tell us the world class players Wenger has spotted.

Eastbay:

Sauron,
maybe you don't need to.cus it appears he has none.
i reminded the testicle and he ignored it like it didn't matter.now he's asking for what hargo contributed.
Drunk oaf.

guy,
it's getting ridiculous.You're contradicting yourself at the speed of light with each post.
Which international individual honour did Maldini win to be termed a world-class player?If Zizou backs Scholes as world-class,then justSTFU.
now you're referencing groomed players again.
When Zidane was at Bodeaux,could anyone say he was world-class?I ask same as Ronaldinho at PSG.The list is endless.

And bsides,talent without titles make you a loser.and losers don't make world-class players.
And who has AW spotted that has become a world-class player,apart from Henry?

biina:

still on quotes eh?

so a player bought at 22 was groomed?

what next, a player bought at 35 becomes a recent discovery?did I say wenger groomed world class players? but you can point to talented signings like weah, viera, Anelka, cesc . . . . . . who were less popular before be signed.

Eastbay:

it's getting ridiculous.You're contradicting yourself at the speed of light with each post.
Which international individual honour did Maldini win to be termed a world-class player?If Zizou backs Scholes as world-class,then justSTFU.
now you're referencing groomed players again.
When Zidane was at Bodeaux,could anyone say he was world-class?I ask same as Ronaldinho at PSG.The list is endless.

And bsides,talent without titles make you a loser.and losers don't make world-class players.
And who has AW spotted that has become a world-class player,apart from Henry?

Dr Kitaun:

f*ck the beef !

ScholeS is greater than what has been said about him . . .how I wished he wasnt a scummie

KING SCHOLES on top of his game is INDOMITABLE !

if ur legends, ZIZOU and co had praised him that much who are u biina to diss him ?

biina:

This is what happens when you jump in the mdiddle of a discussion like a trailer with no brakes.
The discussion is about SAF grooming world class players, and you are yet to point to any other players he has produced.
When you have consensus evidence, and not some quotes cut out of context, that scholes was world class in his position, then come and post, but till then I advised you refrain from posting nonsense and just read.

Maldini not winning the WPOY is primarily due to the position he played, yet he has still won more individual honors than scholes. Even an unborn child knows of the greatness of maldinin.
Maldini and scholes no be mates. George weah?

~Sauron~:

Well-groomed. . . . .
He was a nobody before joining Man Utd a la Antonio Reyes or even Nani.
The potentials were there but those needed to be honed. It's not about age, it's about what he has done before moving to a big club.
I read Keane's book and he clearly stated he was not even sure he would get into the first team of Man Utd when he joined.

How old was Claude MAKALELE before Real Madrid made him a house-hold name?
By your stupid theory, Del Bosque did nothing to Makalele's development.
The evil spirits in Kinshasa were responsible.

Cesc was less popular? Are u a goat?
The same Cesc that conquered FIFA under-17 tournament in 2003?
George Weah was spotted but it wasn't Wenger that groomed him. . . .so what gives!!!

~Sauron~:

Define a world class player cos you keep shifting the post to suit your deluded inputs.

Is Makalele a world class player?

biina:

He didnt make the list for FIFA 100, Pelé's choice of the greatest living footballers, does that make him lesser than the people on the list?

biina:

Player that are inarguably one of the best (i.e. top 5) in their position at the peak of their career

Of course. Can you name 5 better DMs of recent times? doubt it.
The guy takes midfield ball winning to a new level.

biina:

This is what happens when you jump in the mdiddle of a discussion like a trailer with no brakes.
The discussion is about SAF grooming world class players, and you are yet to point to any other players he has produced.
When you have consensus evidence, and not some quotes cut out of context, that scholes was world class in his position, then come and post, but till then I advised you refrain from posting nonsense and just read.

Maldini not winning the WPOY is primarily due to the position he played, yet he has still won more individual honors than scholes. Even an unborn child knows of the greatness of maldinin.
Maldini and scholes no be mates. George weah?

Dr Kitaun:

who gives a f*ck about Pele's list ?

dont be foolish !  

Pele once said Godwin Okpara would rule the world . . .Y[b]ES HE WAS RIGHT, HE IS RULING THE WORLD IN PRISON RIGHT NOW !!! [/b]  

dont tell me u are saying MALDINI is greater than SCHOLES? ?

are u drunk ?

didnt Oliver Kahn emerge best player at the 2002 mundial as a goalkeeper ?  

~Sauron~:

So where was Scholes between 1999 and 2003 in the world?

So did Scholes. . . . . .
Unfortunately, you were not old enough to watch what he did in the late 90s when he was shitting on Zidane of Juventus and the boys from Barcelona.

Dr Kitaun:

dont tell me u are saying MALDINI is greater than SCHOLES? ?

biina:

So why should I disregard the comments of Pele and accept that of Zidane?
If you feel that Maldini is in the same caliber as scholes, then you have obviously lost your mind.
Maldini is the greatest defend of the modern era, and you dare compare him to a fish pond tadpole like scholes
You must be watching games on a black/white TV.

WHAT MAKES MALIDINI EXCEPTIONAL THAT SCHOLES LACK ? IDIOT !

biina:

Nowhere. Classify scholes (AM, CM, DM?) and I would name 5 player better than him in that era

Dont insult the game by comparing scholes to the like sof Makele. Scholes never shit on Zidane or the boys from barcelona. He wasnt even the best player in the 1999 squad.

Dr Kitaun:

MR CRACK
my own is; SAY THE TRUTH AT ALL TIMES !

Scholes was/is a PHENOMENON !

Standard. . . . . . .For me, Scholes is different class and a model professional!

MrCrackles:

Standard. . . . . . .For me, Scholes is different class and a model professional!

Dr Kitaun:

@Debosky

ode omo lo fe ya !

whats with u ?

must ur hatred for the Scum club derail ur sense of reason ?

if ur legends, ZIZOU and co had praised him that much who are u biina to diss him ?

debosky:

Scholes is/was a great player, but please, compare LIKE WITH LIKE - Maldini is not his mate on any planet.

Am i missing something DOBOSKY
Who compared Scholes with Maldini?
In as much as i respect like Scholes as a player, together with Dobosky, i wont have ya all weighing him pound for pound with Maldini!