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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by madprophet: 8:55pm On Apr 27
Siki355:
I need help

Pls pardon my err
I'm not a good writer, so ll kip it short n simple.

For some years I ve biiin battling wit succubus
I ave try all means to make it stop buh all to no avail ...

Most night I get shag in my dream... D most annoying part of it all I get wet ... And at times I feel sensation in my balls n I think its not normal...

Pls how do I get rid of it

My guy...
Just package yourself for deliverance.
Look for any MFM church close to you and attend their deliverance
You might need to repeat it more than once but be rest assured. God would deliver you.
The road might be bumpy, but be rest assured God would see you true.
If you are in Lagos. Go to Prayer City, if not just look any MFM around you.
God bless you

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by madprophet: 8:56pm On Apr 27
Enkaynwa:


Thanks for responding.
Of course I know the greatest sacrifice ever was the death of Jesus Christ.
I just wanted to be sure.
About the thread, I'm following it.
it's just that I get confused when in a church am the only one with a different view.

Church something nowadays get as he be.
Just continue to follow the leading of the holy spirit.
You might be surprised that you are even better than your pastor self.
That every one is going that direction does not make it the right direction.
God be with you madam

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by madprophet: 8:58pm On Apr 27
Dencotext:
I Corinthians 7:9 says " if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion."

See your life? May be someone else may give you that special explanations you wanted. But bible recommended this solution too even if it seemed ackward! Common man stop doing as if I evented this idea even though I added a joke to make this forum more lively!

Dear Sir,

Getting married would not solve this problem.
He need to take care of himself or marriage would be a bad step for hin

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Enkaynwa(f): 11:49pm On Apr 27
madprophet:

Church something nowadays get as he be. Just continue to follow the leading of the holy spirit. You might be surprised that you are even better than your pastor self. That every one is going that direction does not make it the right direction. God be with you madam
Amen. Thank you

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 2:04am On Apr 28
Mariangeles:
All I'm saying is, quoting a single verse out of a whole chapter to the unlearned could be misleading.

The Paul that wrote 1cor. 7:9, is the same Paul that wrote 1cor. 7:1 and 1cor. 7:7 .
So you see, you'll have to read the whole chapter to see where he was coming from and where he was headed .

PS: I wasn't trying to discredit you ...let's get things straight .
I Google internet for bible scriptures on how to overcome sexual sins, these are what I found:

1 Corinthians 6:18 "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body."

I Thessalonians 4:3-5 "It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should learn to control your own body in a way that is holy and honorable, 5 not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God"

And now I am sorry to be the one to inform you these as eye opener, because we guys are taking sexual sins lightly and failling to understand carnality...

I think why holiness is lacking in churches today is because we think the demostrations of power is sanctity. In my life, I have witnessed so many unprintable things commited by so called men of God. I think we are failling to realize that the heart of man is desperately wicked and deceitful. Maybe I should speak out provided I did not call names...one day a well known bishop that does deliverances saw me with a pretty lady and told me he wants her for secretary. Barely two weeks after she worked with him, what she told me this married bishop did to her broke my heart. I cannot say that here. I took my jotter and show her a dream I wrote down about this bishop more than five years ago (I saw him having affairs with a young girl in a village) and told the lady that I was not surprised therefore that he did this to her. And again a married pastor I used to give access to my house to sleep, and whom I sometimes give my tithes, slept with one lady (ladies?) in my room when I was at work! Until when I noticed that he has started to bewitch me also, I decided to get rid of him out of my life!

I will stop here. A word or two is enough for the wise! I advice you all to minimize running to men of God for prayers at any given opportunity and sharing your problems with them. You will definitely fall victim one day. The times we live in is so full of evil! We all are supposed to have personal relationships with God! As per our enemy the flesh, nobody can tame it, not even pastors. We are supposed rather to subdue the cravings of the flesh daily. These can be done through fasting, praying, studying the Word, worshipping, renewing our minds, fleeing fornication, not being idle, but be engaged in positive activities, fixing our thoughts on heavenly things, making a covenant with our eyes not to lust, and avoiding worldly things that DEFILES the heart!

So thanks for saying you are not trying to discredit me. Also I am not trying to discredit you here at all! I am only adding further kiss to the discussions. We all are throwing more light on God' Word from different perspectives!

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by gracefilled: 3:45pm On Apr 28
Dencotext that guy clearly stated he has been battling with succubus, he needs help and you well know it's a spiritual problem that even the married battle with. Why advise him to marry right away, as a solution to such problem? You didn't put into consideration his mental, financial strenght. Abi is marriage now all about sex?

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Aceed: 5:26pm On Apr 28
Dencotext, have you ever masturbated before or have you ever met a 'masturbator'?

If you have you will realize that what is fantasized over in masturbation is not what is actually 'practiceable' in reality.

Most females won't tolerate it or agree to be subjected to such inhumane lusts.

And I can tell you that the satisfaction is different… distinctively

I've read a confession of a Hollywood actress abi IndecentStar/sex-figures where she complained/exposed a prominent individual in the industry that this guy slept with several of them, something similar to what they call threesomes but rather than there being three women, there were several of them.

She said despite the different styles he had with them all, the highlight of his sexual adventure was to seat in front of a tv watching porn while servicing himself. That without i masturbating, the adventure isn't complete.


Now look at that, see masturbation isn't just about fantasizing over sex, it's about fantasizing over what is, sorry to say, not attainable or possible with the opposite sex!

There are three outcomes for a masturbator:

Some quit

Some transfer over the stronghold of fornication

Some express their fantasies with violence, that is rape which satanically realigns the victims life sometimes to death.

I'm of the opinion that the verse you're citing is for virgins both male and female, in the literal sense of it, who cannot or lack the will to keep themselves to their preferred age of marriage, rather than fornicate, thay can marry sooner than later and its acceptable…

masturbation if not dealt with, follows an individual into marriage.

Haven't you watched the movie, i think fireproof, where the man still masturbated even in marriage?

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 11:00pm On Apr 28
Hi gracefilled and Aceed I will be brief but please reference bible. Bible recommeneded marriage if we cannot control ourselves (cheer up gals, no be my idea o). God said marriage is holy, you gals said if we are masturbating or gripped by sexual impurities we should avoid marriage till we fix it? Why did bible said the bed should be undefield? Bible says sex is for the married home, you gals seemed not to accept that our sexual urge could be misdirected if we do not marry. Bible said sexual sin is against the body! You gals failed to see how the power of the flesh factor in this.. (no one can masturbate unless they stimulate their body and defilé their heart first ) everything no be spiritual possession o...bondage to any sin is not something we can overcome unless by the Word of God! Yes masturbation follows people into marriage, to answer you, because you have to deal with the flesh and subdue based on the many practical bible principles I listed, not just by someone praying for you alone. Please calm down gals, we are saying the same things over and over again. My deliverance is reading bible, praying, refusing to pollute your heart, filling your mind with bible, fleeing fornication (do not commit the act physically outside marriage). If you complain again about my writing then something is very wrong...I am not encouraging holiness be that shocked

The young man said he will consider getting married in 4 years time why are you guys defending him? And saying marriage is not necessary when he has agreed to get married sometime in future?! My story don end.. you gals won! Na spiritual problem, make im go for deliverance. Please deliverance na the solution now I agree! kiss No crucify me I beg.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Aceed: 12:53am On Apr 29
Dencotext what you're trying to say is this:

A cheating spouse/fiancé/fiancée will become faithful once the individual is married…

I don't think so

See the issue of sexual lusts has to be dealt with marriage or no marriage…

Masturbation is a bizarre mix of adultery/fornication and homosexuality/lesbianism which doesn't just disappear when they say 'I do'…


Every habit of man has a spirit attached to it, name it lying, long life, power, goodness, mercy, madness, excellence…

They're all either godly or demonic spirits…

You can say you don't want godly wisdom and God will honour your request…

To get rid of a masturbation spirit, you have to be violent in prayers and fasting, if necessary because satan doesn't respect your wishes!

The Bible even says they come back after a while to take residency if the individual didn't give God his body.

And now you're saying he should goan marry and the demon will go poof?

Ahn ahn


The verse you're citing is for those who haven't fallen into the acts of sexual sins or those who've been celibate…

What do you think marriage is for?

A shelter for those who can't call their bodies to order?

You judge your advice

Can he handle the marriage financially, emotionally, spiritually…

He is running from the demon of masturbation into the hands of the demon of poverty who will still invite the demon of masturbation over to strengthen their hold over him?

What makes you think that his lusts won't affect his choice of a wife?

If he cannot fight his own battles as a man now, will he be able to fight the battles of his wife? what about battles from the unison of forces of darkness on his side and wife's side?

You're asking for a Biblical reference, I believe this should make a point



Proverbs 3:5 - Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Proverbs 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.




does a masturbator trust the Lord with all his heart?

Does a masturbator acknowledge God in masturbation?

Now how will God direct the path of a masturbator to his wife? so that he can goan mess up the life of God's daughter?

How?

He'll be leaning on his understanding if he chooses a wife under the bondage of lust, don't you think so?

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 11:18am On Apr 29
Aceed:
Dencotext what you're trying to say is this:

A cheating spouse/fiancé/fiancée will become faithful once the individual is married…

I don't think so

See the issue of sexual lusts has to be dealt with marriage or no marriage…

Masturbation is a bizarre mix of adultery/fornication and homosexuality/lesbianism which doesn't just disappear when they say 'I do'…
Please Aceed how old are you now? I was Born Again (1989) 30 years ago! As Mourinho would say, give me some respect or benefit of doubt! shocked For the second time now you have repeatedly quoted me out of context (by saying I said something when I did not say that). I did not say MARRIAGE IS A CURE TO MASTURBATION based on your two posts now! So I will not respond to this post or defend that stance. It does not represent what I meant when I quoted I Cor. 7:8-9.

I only wrote to make this complain. Thank you!
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Aceed: 12:16pm On Apr 29
Dencotext:
Please Aceed how old are you now? I was Born Again (1989) 30 years ago! As Mourinho would say, give me some respect or benefit of doubt! shocked For the second time now you have repeatedly quoted me out of context (by saying I said something when I did not say that). I did not say MARRIAGE IS A CURE TO MASTURBATION based on your two posts now! So I will not respond to this post or defend that stance. It does not represent what I meant when I quoted I Cor. 7:8-9.

I only wrote to make this complain. Thank you!

Sorry Sir…

Okay you've cited 1 Cor 7:8-9, what's your piece of advice to that young man?


BTW… the cheating spouse was used as a relative example you didn't say that

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 1:38pm On Apr 29
Aceed:


Sorry Sir…

Okay you've cited 1 Cor 7:8-9, what's your piece of advice to that young man?


BTW… the cheating spouse was used as a relative example you didn't say that
Well as you noticed bible said here that, for the unmarried it is better to remain unmarried. So I am not against being unmarried. Bible said next, but if you cannot control yourself, it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

Being grammatically correct the word BETTER is used by bible in these two instances in a comparative sense to emphasize that there could be some benefits! Bible never said it is a cure or we must do it... Jesus is the cure to everything rather and He is the Word of God, so how can we ignore His Word which is eternal? Devil may force people to do His will, God never! He gives us choices, especially to love Him as we wish that is why there would be judgment and rewards, starting with His children.

Well my advice to the young man was for him to try and get married. Now it is only an advice.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by unicorn79: 7:08am On Apr 30
Dencotext:
Well as you noticed bible said here that, for the unmarried it is better to remain unmarried. So I am not against being unmarried. Bible said next, but if you cannot control yourself, it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

Being grammatically correct the word BETTER is used by bible in these two instances in a comparative sense to emphasize that there could be some benefits! Bible never said it is a cure or we must do it... Jesus is the cure to everything rather and He is the Word of God, so how can we ignore His Word which is eternal? Devil may force people to do His will, God never! He gives us choices, especially to love Him as we wish that is why there would be judgment and rewards, starting with His children.

Well my advice to the young man was for him to try and get married. Now it is only an advice.


But sir, would getting married chase that spirit molesting him away?

Or you do not believe in such succubuses?

In Judge 20 vs 18, Gods word to Israel was 'Go up against them'. They went but yet lost terribly to Benjamin.

This was to teach them a vital lesson that that they were fighting a spiritual battle and they needed to settle it spiritually first.

Benjamin had learned evil ways and acquired evil powers and not until Israel fasted and prayed and waited upon God in verse 26 did they secure the spiritual victory and then went ahead to defeat Benjamin physically.

God's Word said 'Go against them' They went but lost. Then they fasted and prayed to so that God's Word would have a way physically.


Likewise in this case God's Word says 'Get married' If this brother merely does that he would have just acted like the Israelites and the succubus will still come or even afflict his marriage/partner. And then you would find that even in marriage things are wrong. He may be pushed to severe lust and even adultery by the spirits defeating the purpose of getting married in this context.

But if he seeks God in prayers, fast, prays, goes for deliverance, God will expose the enemy and defeat the spirits afflicting him.

Upon deliverance spiritually, he can then go ahead and fulfil God's word physically, that is he can get married and he will not fall into adultery afterwards because the enemy has been dealt with spiritually.

Please take time out to reflect on that book of Judges 20 vs 11 - 46.

There is a vital lesson there as regard this case.

Cheers.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 2:50pm On Apr 30
unicorn79:
But sir, would getting married chase that spirit molesting him away?.....
Hi Unicorn, now let me 'kuku kpakpa' bare my mind about myself. I do not enjoy commenting on other people's ideas because of what is in my head... for now I do not want to sound too critical of your ideas or make you feel bad... infact I want you to feel good. My head is full of books till i have grown bukuru white hairs. This generation hardly read books, but me and my siblings devored thousands of thousands of novels in the 80's before I got born again and jumped into christian novels. Just call the book name and I may likely tell you the story. I love you guys die, but I am such a perfectionist. [I entered University of Nigeria, Nsukka in 1989 to read electronic engineering. As you may know, engineering is the hardest discipline mentally, followed by medicine which is more of memorization. I am almost done with my 3rd degree now, master degree in engineering and computer science in Europe.] The reason why I am chatting in this forum is because of boredom. To be candid at my age and experience, you will not find my mates chatting here... for instance my best friend is a first lecturer at Igbenidion University.

Please you guys should just tolerate me, do not bother to understand me. So yes sir for saying "he will not fall into adultery afterwards" grin Let us just enjoy the ride... cheers Unicorn! shocked

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by gracefilled: 9:00am On May 01
Dencotex to flog you dey hungry me, wetin you still dey nyan sef? And this your readiness to tell you became born-twice, I mean bornagain hundred years ago, lol...Becarful o!

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 1:50pm On May 01
gracefilled:
Dencotex to flog you dey hungry me, wetin you still dey nyan sef? And this your readiness to tell you became born-twice, I mean bornagain hundred years ago, lol...Becarful o!
Ahahaha my pikin take am softly, koboko no good o grin I been stubborn well well when I dey small sha, trouble dey sweet me like sugar, I even dey blow guy, and I like yabbing others, but now I don born against those things. But you cannot eliminate the works of the flesh kpata kpata sha but just subdue am. shocked

I b d smallest pikin in dat pic...cheer up all you naija pikins, nothing dey happen. We go make am in Jesus name!!!

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by gracefilled: 2:02pm On May 02
Lol, e dey your body true true.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Aceed: 7:01am On May 03
Dencotext:
Ahahaha my pikin take am softly, koboko no good o grin I been stubborn well well when I dey small sha, trouble dey sweet me like sugar, I even dey blow guy, and I like yabbing others, but now I don born against those things. But you cannot eliminate the works of the flesh kpata kpata sha but just subdue am. shocked

I b d smallest pikin in dat pic...cheer up all you naija pikins, nothing dey happen. We go make am in Jesus name!!!

@bolded you can

Mortify according to merriam webster

1
: to subject to severe and vexing embarrassment : SHAME


2
: to subdue or deaden (the body, bodily appetites, etc.) especially b
abstinence or self-inflicted pain or discomfort


3
obsolete : to destroy the strength vitality, or functioning of



definition 3 is apt, very apt



Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 11:02am On May 03
Aceed:
.... Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Ahahaha good bible student grin.... Now I see you are learning! shocked

1 Corinthians 9:24-27 English Standard Version (ESV)
24 Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it. 25 Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. 26 So I do not run aimlessly; I do not box as one beating the air. 27 But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 11:31am On May 03
Hello naija pikins grin

Just to help the learning process, I have checked that bible says we can overcome the WORLD, we can overcome the DEVIL, but I never see where bible say we overcome the FLESH, which is our own very body! shocked We can only put it under CONTROL, SUBJECTION, SUBDUE or MORTIFY the works of the flesh, meaning that fleshly sins like sexual impurities do not just go away (on the contrary because we have a natural healthy biological sexual urge) but we are urged by bible to CONTROL our passions. Do you noticed that when you abstain from food (fasting) your sexual urge diminishes and your passions become controllable? Scientists says our bodies eliminate accumulated toxic chemicals when we fast thus making us healthier! Remember this world is now flooded with chemical products!

There is nothing like to "overcome" succubus. The correct grammar is to SUBDUE, CONTROL, MORTIFY, DEADEN and so on, your sexual passions. You need more of natural processes first. You need to fast or live a fasted lifestyle. You need to change your diet and eat plenty vegetables, less meats, and more fruits. By detoxifying your body and staying healthy you are better prepared to control your flesh. And you must sanctify your mind and heart from watching worldly movies full of violence and sex. It gives rooms for satan to weaken your spiritual life and make you prayerless and more carnally minded.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dasgoro: 8:50pm On May 03
Siki355:
I need help

Pls pardon my err
I'm not a good writer, so ll kip it short n simple.

For some years I ve biiin battling wit succubus
I ave try all means to make it stop buh all to no avail ...

Most night I get shag in my dream... D most annoying part of it all I get wet ... And at times I feel sensation in my balls n I think its not normal...

Pls how do I get rid of it

2.cor.12...Meditate on it

Until you understand your power is in resting in the true grace of Christ... You will continue to have such challenges.

When you develop your spirit man, you will

1. Be able to know when this succubus come to you, and ambush them

2. You get so spiritually high that their spiritual seduction will not be able to affect your soul... Therefore no release or eroticism

3. You will be able to become a predator rather than a prey to them

4. You will be able to know your spiritual gifts, Walk in spiritual realms and know who God has created you to be.

5. Understand that your ignorance is what is fueling their strength and causing that weakness

I pray God deliver you by you delivering through prayers, fasting and spiritual study of the Word in Jesus name. Amen

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Aceed: 4:23am On May 04
Baba Denco grin

alright can you spot the difference between this verses


1 Corinthians 9:24 - Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it.

1 Corinthians 9:25 - Every atlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable.

1 Corinthians 9:26 - So I do not run aimlessly;I do not box as one beating the air.

1 Corinthians 9:27 - But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified. English Standard Version


and this

Romans 8:13 - For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.



Galatians 5:24 - And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.



In the former, discipline is, may I say, an effective way of dealing with habits that you don't like but the effectiveness become limited or of no effect when dealing with addictions. Addictions has to do with repeated NEGATIVE actions that you struggle to put away

With habits, you can choose, with reasons if it benefits you or not, to stop or continue the actions but in addictions you have almost no control over your actions because they're impulsive and we all know as Christians that if God isn't the impulsive force then it is the devil. This is what Paul complained of in


Romans 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.



Paul realized that know matter how good we are in subduing the flesh, if we don't crucify it, if we don't kill it, we will one day behave erractically when the body 'rages' and we can't rein it.

Everything we do prayer, fasting, discipline is to weaken the flesh, and to continue to weaken it unto death, so we can get closer to God.

In our Christian life, I don't believe in anything called stagnacy, in the literal sense of it, because if you say you're not moving, well God is always moving, time is ticking/moving and so is satan,therefore if you're not moving along with God, the devil will soon catch up with that individual and by hook or crook, that individual will move with the devil, if God doesn't intervene.

So if our flesh and its lusts isn't growing its dying.

You'll say you're keeping it under subjection. This statement alone means once in a while the flesh gets strong and rears up its head, that's why the Bble says for us to live in the Spirit we have to walk in the Spirit by CRUCIFYING the flesh


Galatians 5:24 - And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Galatians 5:25 - If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit


Secondly, there's a difference between masturbation and the demon of masturbation

Masturbation is an act, the demon of masturbation is what's causing a man to indulge in the act.

Masturbation is a habit, the demon is an entity.

We can't subdue/overcome masturbation without overcoming the demon. You can't exercise discipline without dealing with the cause. Yes, we can overcome succubus because its a demon (not a habit) under satan and the Bible says


Revelation 12:11 - And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto death

yes, you can say that it isn't explicitly stated in the Bible that we have power of the flesh but see what this verse says

Luke 10:19 - Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you

Lord Jesus gave us power to tread over all the power of the enemy. Well, if you haven't known, the flesh and its lust/works are powers of the enemy, so we have power over our flesh, we can TREAD OVER it.

You can't mortify the works of the flesh rather you mortify the flesh.

Take an instance, a snake enters a poultry time an time again, the fatality today are hens, tomorrow eggs, the day after chicks, how do you MORTIFY or kill the works of the snake, you can't rather you stop the occurences of the works by killing/MORTIFYING the snake.

Yes, science says healthy sexual urge, high testoterones blah blah blah but that doesn't mean you should fornicate, masturbate or lust after women.

Lord Jesus is an example and the Bible records He was healthy mentally and physically


Luke 5:52 - And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature,...

He had everything a healthy human should have including testoterones. did He lust after women? No, there was no reason to have urges or indulge in sexual immoralities. See the Bible says

John 14:30 - Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

NOTHING!!! Not even His flesh could be used because it was dead, completely...

Therefore, I put it to you, that if a man is having erections/urges, at that moment, he/she is lusting after sex with whoever thats in their thought, and if the thought isn't brought under subjection to Christ, that individual expresses his urge


2 Corinthians 10:5 - Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ



James 1:14 - But every man is tempted,when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

James 1:15 - Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin[i](works of the flesh)[/i]: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 1:47pm On May 04
Aceed:
Baba Denco grin

alright can you spot the difference between this verses

Hello Aceed, when baba and pikin argue the pikin suppose learn quickly to make baba happy. Or else koboko may be an option one day! kiss

Now there are some subtlelities I want to point out here. Sin is a spiritual thing. But the flesh is physical and always alive provided we are not dead, so no need to use words like KILLING the flesh. Dont be a murderer grin Bible is actually talking about SIN here and not literally about the FLESH. Rather the analogy is that sin works through the flesh to rear its ugly head. What is Born of the Spirit is spirit. So we do not have to crucify our bodies literally again... because we are crucified with Christ in that One Big sacrifice. ,,,"'

Bible usage of flesh therefore was solely to describe the works of the flesh or sin that manifests through the body. Bible is not talking about the real FLESH as if we are a carnibbalistic race. shocked

Now that I have pointed out that bible is talking about sin, the words like WE ARE CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST (Gal. 2: 2) now make sense. For example quoting Roman 6:6: "For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin". You can see there is no mention that we should crucify ourselves or bodies, but rather we are crucified with Jesus, because we are talking about SIN here not the real flesh.

Now let us take a look at carrying your cross and what that meant! On all occassions that Jesus said we should carry our cross, He simply wanted us to deny ourselves and follow Him: "Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." Matthew 16:24,25. This meant that we deny ourselves to identify with the crucifixion, death and resurretion of Jesus!

Aceed I actually have no intentions of making a doctrine out of the FLESH outside the concept of SIN that we already know. But on the contrary when it comes to deliverance from the bondage of sin, that is where my emphasis lies... it becomes very vital to know how to engage in spiritual exercises because how we control our physical bodies, as taught by bible, matters a lot! shocked

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 5:09pm On May 05
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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Dencotext: 8:56am On May 10
Hello guys,

In continuation of my discussion about the coming Nemesis shocked I think people find it hard to believe. Let me explain briefly that if as a child of God you have not realized that even since the day Adam fell (long ago) satan have been running the show on earth controlling the media, movies, and our governments in order to contradict bible and to hide the truth of what is coming on the earth, then you may be carried away by the many lies that have even penetrated the fabric of Christianity itself. Let me concentrate only on Nemesis, our evil twin star. How did we get here? What did Jesus Himself say about these endtime events? Luke 21: 25-27

“And there will be strange signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. People will be terrified at what they see coming upon the earth, for the powers in the heavens will be shaken."


Did you see that our Sun, Moon and Planet would be affected by strange signs. Yes including the stars... the approaching Planet X is now officially deemed a red and dusty dwarf star, also considered to be our binary twin by some...who knows jare? Can you see for the first time ever cyclone have struck Africa twice (within a month apart) killing hundreds and causing monumental catastrophe. Our magnetic north pole have began shifting rapidly so pilots recalibrate their compasses almost every year now. Our Sun is no longer rising where it supposed to be...it has shifted as much as 6 degree, which is not so small that your keen eyes cannot have noticed. Why is that not on the global news? You cannot even drink rain water anymore because of long chemtrails pouring out of the exhaust of planes...toxic artificial clouds (climate control engineering) to hide what is coming upon the earth and the infra red rays being spilled out by the approaching Nemesis!

Do you see why the one world government and biometric control is urgent now? Have you heard of UN agenda 21?! Do see what Jesus said would happen? He assured us when these signs appear, surely this generation would not pass away till His coming transpires!
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Diariess(f): 10:33am On May 24
I dreamt that a woman, a prophetess actually, who had prayed for me the day before, gave me something to swallow in my dream (the night of the day she prayed for me). I didn't want to take it but she continued to prod me by opening my mouth with one hand, and using the bottle in the other hand to widen my mouth (like when you're giving a child a herbal mixture).

The content: it was gel-like and slippery. To describe it better, it looked exactly like what you wash off a snail, (I think snail spit). That slippery stuff on snail skin you try to get rid of with alum.

The taste: it wasn't tasteless. It tasted like there was salt in it.


After I swallowed the content in the bottle, a group of 4 men came to take me away from the woman (the prophetess). They didn't want me associating with her.

She tried to fight them but was outnumbered.

Pls house what does this mean?

CharlyG

I did tell her over the phone this morning about the dream. She asked me if I was very sure it was her I saw. She then said it could be that evil people took on her face to mask their identity. She also said it could be that what she gave me in the dream is something that will translate to joy. That is, " o n yo bi ayo" (in yoruba language). Meaning "it's slippery like joy". She then proceeded to pray for me.

Should I be worried?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Diariess(f): 10:04pm On May 27
Diariess:
I dreamt that a woman, a prophetess actually, who had prayed for me the day before, gave me something to swallow in my dream (the night of the day she prayed for me). I didn't want to take it but she continued to prod me by opening my mouth with one hand, and using the bottle in the other hand to widen my mouth (like when you're giving a child a herbal mixture).

The content: it was gel-like and slippery. To describe it better, it looked exactly like what you wash off a snail, (I think snail spit). That slippery stuff on snail skin you try to get rid of with alum.

The taste: it wasn't tasteless. It tasted like there was salt in it.


After I swallowed the content in the bottle, a group of 4 men came to take me away from the woman (the prophetess). They didn't want me associating with her.

She tried to fight them but was outnumbered.

Pls house what does this mean?

CharlyG

I did tell her over the phone this morning about the dream. She asked me if I was very sure it was her I saw. She then said it could be that evil people took on her face to mask their identity. She also said it could be that what she gave me in the dream is something that will translate to joy. That is, " o n yo bi ayo" (in yoruba language). Meaning "it's slippery like joy". She then proceeded to pray for me.

Should I be worried?

CharlyG1 where are you sir?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by nnamdiosu(m): 10:07am On May 28
Diariess:
I dreamt that a woman, a prophetess actually, who had prayed for me the day before, gave me something to swallow in my dream (the night of the day she prayed for me). I didn't want to take it but she continued to prod me by opening my mouth with one hand, and using the bottle in the other hand to widen my mouth (like when you're giving a child a herbal mixture).

The content: it was gel-like and slippery. To describe it better, it looked exactly like what you wash off a snail, (I think snail spit). That slippery stuff on snail skin you try to get rid of with alum.

The taste: it wasn't tasteless. It tasted like there was salt in it.


After I swallowed the content in the bottle, a group of 4 men came to take me away from the woman (the prophetess). They didn't want me associating with her.

She tried to fight them but was outnumbered.

Pls house what does this mean?

CharlyG

I did tell her over the phone this morning about the dream. She asked me if I was very sure it was her I saw. She then said it could be that evil people took on her face to mask their identity. She also said it could be that what she gave me in the dream is something that will translate to joy. That is, " o n yo bi ayo" (in yoruba language). Meaning "it's slippery like joy". She then proceeded to pray for me.

Should I be worried?

Aunty, next time ,when you have a dream like this about someone doing something to you, don't tell the person. Keep it to your self. You can tell others who dont know here, but DONT TELL THE PERSON.

if the person means you harm, and God gives you the dream to expose the person and warn you, youve just simply ended up revealing the secret of Gods plan to the enemy. AND
if the person is innocent and the person face was used by your enemies, then truly, you will just make the person feel sad and down and discouraged. Please be wise, i didn't expect this from you. that someone is praying for you doesn't mean that you should tell the person everything you see. some are for your consumption or reflection. If its from God, then God can tell her instead of you opening your mouth and speaking more than you should. (WHAT I SAY TO ONE I SAY TO ALL. )

Now the truth is, the woman herself felt the dream wasn't good , thats why she said 'maybe its her enemies that used her face'/ Truth is, i perceive the dream isnt good. Thank God she prayed for you (Hope you prayed for yourself too?)
you were forced to take something like snail, it sounds more or less like forced initiation or affliction. I cant say.
bottom line is you should pray and reveres the dream if its bad. forget about that thing she said (slippery like joy)better pray. Joy isnt slippery ok?
It is well with you. God will help you and answer your prayer.

lastly which church does the prophetess go to?

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by asalimpo(m): 10:48am On May 28
Diariess:
I dreamt that a woman, a prophetess actually, who had prayed for me the day before, gave me something to swallow in my dream (the night of the day she prayed for me). I didn't want to take it but she continued to prod me by opening my mouth with one hand, and using the bottle in the other hand to widen my mouth (like when you're giving a child a herbal mixture).

The content: it was gel-like and slippery. To describe it better, it looked exactly like what you wash off a snail, (I think snail spit). That slippery stuff on snail skin you try to get rid of with alum.

The taste: it wasn't tasteless. It tasted like there was salt in it.


After I swallowed the content in the bottle, a group of 4 men came to take me away from the woman (the prophetess). They didn't want me associating with her.

She tried to fight them but was outnumbered.

Pls house what does this mean?

CharlyG

I did tell her over the phone this morning about the dream. She asked me if I was very sure it was her I saw. She then said it could be that evil people took on her face to mask their identity. She also said it could be that what she gave me in the dream is something that will translate to joy. That is, " o n yo bi ayo" (in yoruba language). Meaning "it's slippery like joy". She then proceeded to pray for me.

Should I be worried?
you did foolishly by telling d prophetess your dream.
I dont wanna recap what d person above me said but ... Where is your sense? Too much going to pipu to pray for you has robbed u of common sense . Besides being forced to take something against ur will is not God's way. God will just b like facepalming: "this gal don blow my plan".
You shouldav kept it to yourself to see how things played out.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by asalimpo(m): 11:29am On May 28
Laduet:
I go through this thread everytime, read people's comments, contributions and revelation, I feel inspired each time. Through this thread I learnt a lot. I have learnt more on this thread than in any other thread created on nairaland or even in some websites I visit. But then I remember the encounter I had with some contributors on this thread and I get sad.

There was a time I was in need of very deep spiritual help. I didn't know where to start, I was confused, I wasn't close to Christ at the time, I had no spiritually mentor and the church I attended didn't believe in spiritual warfare, my friends were carnally minded, they will just think am insane if I narrated my experience to them. I couldn't narrate my experience to my family because it will get them more worried and I didn't want that. It was as though I was drowning with no one in site to help.

Then I found this thread, it was as if I stumbled on a gold mine, I believed all my problems were over. I still believe God led me here.
I reached out to some contributors here privately because I didn't want to narrate long stories online. I was very desperate, I needed spiritual guidance . I knew the devil was after my life, I was seeing myself lost in the dream and surrounded by the dead. I knew it was just a matter of time before that will happen.

When I got a reply from some contributors I sent a pm to, I was very happy , I felt my problems were over. In the cause of my interacting with them, I discovered that some had no interest in helping me, some helped for awhile and ignored me, others just judged me or ignored me completely. Some helped.
I was sad and disappointed but I thank God for mfm, God really used the church to do wonders in my life.

In the cause of my interactions with some "good" Christians, I discovered some of us lacked genuine Christian love in our hearts. We profess that we love God sing and pray all the time, we even go for evangelism but deep inside is hate, selfishness and judgemental thoughts.

It doesn't matter if the person is the worst sinnner, or of a different denomination or religion as you. God has a reason for bringing strangers our way.
Maybe it's through you the person will receive salvation.
Imagine what would have happened had it been Ananaias ignored Paul.
If you cannot love and help those in need , how can you claim to love God?


Let's all always meditate on 1 Corinthians 13:1 " though I speak with the tongues of men and angels, but have not love, I have become as sounding brass or clanging cymbal ".

The reason for this write up is not to put anyone down. Let us learn to love without expectations or reward because through love, we are made better men.

Shalom
i've noticed this phenomenom too. True Christlike christian love is rare. Love is pain. Carrying another person's burden is uncomfortable. In the area of love most are shallow nd hav no deep roots.
But we shouldnt judge others too harshly, if you were in their shoes,would you hav loved to the end? Most likely,you'd hav done like they did. Loved for a day but frwn the next day when they needed your help.
Most ppl begin to resent you when u need their help. They give but it's out of tolerance. Some are secretly gleefully delighted that you are down. Many want you to stay down and never rise. The heart of man being wicked !
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Diariess(f): 11:39am On May 28
asalimpo:

you did foolishly by telling d prophetess your dream.
I dont wanna recap what d person above me said but ... Where is your sense? Too much going to pipu to pray for you has robbed u of common sense . Besides being forced to take something against ur will is not God's way. God will just b like facepalming: "this gal don blow my plan".
You shouldav kept it to yourself to see how things played out.

Do not, I repeat, do not insult me just because you have an opinion to drop! If you can't talk like you have sense shut up pls. What sort of nonsense is this? Because I came here to seek advice, you think you can insult me?

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by asalimpo(m): 12:04pm On May 28
Diariess:


Do not, I repeat, do not insult me just because you have an opinion to drop! If you can't talk like you have sense shut up pls. What sort of nonsense is this? Because I came here to seek advice, you think you can insult me?
are u angry? because i said going to ppl to pray for you has robbed of commonsense? Is tht what is raising your ire? I will put it to you,that that is true. Deal with it.
Many ppl in presentday christianity are in autopilot mode . They defer to a pastor,prophet,prophetess automatically without thinking. Once an issue arises- pastor- they spill their guts and beans and everything bf a man /woman like them. This mode continues indefinitely only jarred when mayb something nasty happens to their relationship.

It's better u feel offended so tht the point lodges deeper in ur mind than coating it softly nd u dismiss/discount it.

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