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Is God Really A Loving And Caring God? Is He Really What The Bible Claims He is? by Rileey(m): 6:05pm On Nov 02, 2015
I am sure a lot of Christians just by reading the topic are already annoyed and are armed with their "repent from your ways and give your life to Christ," replies. But please I urge you guys to patiently listen to and try to understand what I have to say first, before you jump into conclusions.

The Bible portrays God as a loving and caring God who only has thoughts of good for his children. The bible says that God loves us all.

My question is this; If God loves us as the bible says then why does He allow evil to reign? Why does he allow his children, his people, to suffer and perish like chickens?
If God sees the future from the past, why does he allow some certain things to thrive, knowing fully well the mayhem and suffering such things would cause latter in the future?
Why does he allow pain and sorrow to continue?

Let me elucidate my point. Some of you here are mothers and some of you here are fathers. Now, how does it feel if your child is experiencing just a slight pain, maybe a head ache or a stomach ache? Or what if that child has an injury. Would you just stay still and allow that child to continue suffering in pain when you know you have the power to end it?

Why does God allow his creations to suffer for the sins of others? Or does He somehow enjoy the sufferings, pain, sorrow and evil in the world, cause I don't see any other explanation.

When you say someone is all loving and all caring, it means the love that person has should be greater than any other being. But yet, there are people who show love and care that surpasses the kind God shows. Don't get me wrong, I am just giving my honest opinion.

Now the saddest part of all this is the issue of hell. I am still trying to understand why God would decide to send his creations to hell just for committing sin. Why would a loving God allow his creations to suffer eternal torment, just for something as small as a lie. Even sins much worse don't deserve such punishment.

The bible says God is a just God, but his laws and ways are anything but just. Justice doesn't demand punishing a someone for the sins of another.
Justice doesn't demand punishing someone in the most sadistic and cruel of ways just for not believing in your son.

Ask yourself this question; Even if someone who isn't your child steals from you or does wrong against you and against what you stand for, would you punish the person in a cruel way? Would you be okay watching the person suffer just for
that? How much more your own child.

It surprises me when I see Christians open their mouths and say that people would go to hell if they don't keep to God's commandment. How does someone justify such punishment?
I wonder if people even sit and think.

Some people are born into cultures and religions where they have no say as to what religion they belong and they are groomed and trained in that religion till they reach adulthood.
How does one expect such person to turn from their religions and follow yours? And when such person doesn't turn from theirs, eternal torment becomes their destination.
Most Christians preach that God destroyed the world with flood in times pats and next, he will destroy it with fire.
This also gets me surprised because I still can't find any reason why Someone would be okay seeing people drown to death.
I don't know if you guys have seen someone struggle for breath as they drown. Do you know what it's like? How much more children and babies?
There were children when God destroyed the world in Noah's time and those kids suffered the same fate. Most of them didn't even understand what was going on, most didn't have a mind of their own, but God still allowed them to suffer such fate and He was okay watching them suffer and die.

Even in the old testament, a lot of God's laws and actions (which I don't want to go into) defies the adjectives used in defining Him.
Re: Is God Really A Loving And Caring God? Is He Really What The Bible Claims He is? by absoluteSuccess: 6:30pm On Nov 02, 2015
My answer is, if there is no bible to read, would you be this bordered? You are bordered at human's thinking.

Also, I dont think it is God to please man, if it is your pleasure, believe him.

Now that you have discovered the weakness of God, correct it and God will cease to exist.

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Re: Is God Really A Loving And Caring God? Is He Really What The Bible Claims He is? by God2man(m): 7:12pm On Nov 02, 2015
absoluteSuccess:
My answer is, if there is no bible to read, would you be this bordered? You are bordered at human's thinking.

Also, I dont think it is God to please man, if it is your pleasure, believe him.

Now that you have discovered the weakness of God, correct it and God will cease to exist.
Re: Is God Really A Loving And Caring God? Is He Really What The Bible Claims He is? by God2man(m): 7:16pm On Nov 02, 2015
Rileey:
I am sure a lot of Christians just by reading the topic are already annoyed and are armed with their "repent from your ways and give your life to Christ," replies. But please I urge you guys to patiently listen to and try to understand what I have to say first, before you jump into conclusions.

The Bible portrays God as a loving and caring God who only has thoughts of good for his children. The bible says that God loves us all.

My question is this; If God loves us as the bible says then why does He allow evil to reign? Why does he allow his children, his people, to suffer and perish like chickens?
If God sees the future from the past, why does he allow some certain things to thrive, knowing fully well the mayhem and suffering such things would cause latter in the future?
Why does he allow pain and sorrow to continue?

Let me elucidate my point. Some of you here are mothers and some of you here are fathers. Now, how does it feel if your child is experiencing just a slight pain, maybe a head ache or a stomach ache? Or what if that child has an injury. Would you just stay still and allow that child to continue suffering in pain when you know you have the power to end it?

Why does God allow his creations to suffer for the sins of others? Or does He somehow enjoy the sufferings, pain, sorrow and evil in the world, cause I don't see any other explanation.

When you say someone is all loving and all caring, it means the love that person has should be greater than any other being. But yet, there are people who show love and care that surpasses the kind God shows. Don't get me wrong, I am just giving my honest opinion.

Now the saddest part of all this is the issue of hell. I am still trying to understand why God would decide to send his creations to hell just for committing sin. Why would a loving God allow his creations to suffer eternal torment, just for something as small as a lie. Even sins much worse don't deserve such punishment.

The bible says God is a just God, but his laws and ways are anything but just. Justice doesn't demand punishing a someone for the sins of another.
Justice doesn't demand punishing someone in the most sadistic and cruel of ways just for not believing in your son.

Ask yourself this question; Even if someone who isn't your child steals from you or does wrong against you and against what you stand for, would you punish the person in a cruel way? Would you be okay watching the person suffer just for
that? How much more your own child.

It surprises me when I see Christians open their mouths and say that people would go to hell if they don't keep to God's commandment. How does someone justify such punishment?
I wonder if people even sit and think.

Some people are born into cultures and religions where they have no say as to what religion they belong and they are groomed and trained in that religion till they reach adulthood.
How does one expect such person to turn from their religions and follow yours? And when such person doesn't turn from theirs, eternal torment becomes their destination.
Most Christians preach that God destroyed the world with flood in times pats and next, he will destroy it with fire.
This also gets me surprised because I still can't find any reason why Someone would be okay seeing people drown to death.
I don't know if you guys have seen someone struggle for breath as they drown. Do you know what it's like? How much more children and babies?
There were children when God destroyed the world in Noah's time and those kids suffered the same fate. Most of them didn't even understand what was going on, most didn't have a mind of their own, but God still allowed them to suffer such fate and He was okay watching them suffer and die.

Even in the old testament, a lot of God's laws and actions (which I don't want to go into) defies the adjectives used in defining Him.

This is an atheistic style of using a new moniker to bring God down.
Re: Is God Really A Loving And Caring God? Is He Really What The Bible Claims He is? by Rileey(m): 7:54pm On Nov 02, 2015
God2man:


This is an atheistic style of using a new moniker to bring God down.

How am I bringing God down?
Re: Is God Really A Loving And Caring God? Is He Really What The Bible Claims He is? by God2man(m): 8:12pm On Nov 02, 2015
Rileey:


How am I bringing God down?

Is your topic directing people to God or questioning the existence of God?

Are you lifting him up?
Re: Is God Really A Loving And Caring God? Is He Really What The Bible Claims He is? by malvisguy212: 8:28pm On Nov 02, 2015
@ op, the answer to your question is here https://www.nairaland.com/2552255/god-love-innocent-wouldnt-suffer

God eradicated everyone who has ever
caused pain by selfishness, cheating,
lying, gossiping or hurtful
remarks, who would be left? People say,
"Suffering is God's fault!", In other
words,if we disobey God,it's God's fault?
conveniently forgetting times our own
anger, greed and lies hurt others. To
wipe out some people who cause
suffering, and spare you and me, would
make God guilty of gross injustice. We
have each added to humanity's shame.
If there is a God of love, the people he
loves and longs to place in a pain-free
world are the very ones who cause
humanity's suffering.
We are so far from being innocent that
we owe our very existence to sin. If, for
example, we traced our family tree far
enough,we would probably each find an
ancestor born as a result of sin - rape,
unlawful Inbreeding, a despised
pregnancy,
sex before marriage, and the like.
Humanity can boast only ONE PERFECT
PERSON . We killed him.
Frequently, we hear or read a comment
like this:
"I simply cannot believe in a God who
permits innocent children to starve and
suffer, and men like Hitler and Stalin to
murder millions of people."
The examples may vary,but the thoughts
are always the same. Supposedly,this is
"proof" that either God doesn't exist, or
that if He does, He either doesn't care
about our sufferings, or He is not
powerful enough to do
anything about them. But suffering is
neither proof of God's non-existence or
existence. Saying, "If God exists, why is
there suffering?" is like saying "If San
Francisco exists, why are there
earthquakes?" Do earthquakes occur
because San Francisco causes them? Or
do they occur in spite of San Francisco?
Or do they have nothing to do with San
Francisco? Well, we know the answer to
that question because we know about
San Francisco and we know about
earthquakes.But how much do we really
know about God? If we define Him by our
own nature, then He cannot be of
any greater character than ourselves.
We may ascribe to Him a greater power
than ourselves, but when we suppose
that God should or should not act like
this or that,then all we are really saying
is, "He should act like I would if I
were God."
STARVING:
Now, let's look at starving children. The
Bible says that in the beginning, God
created the heavens and the earth. That
includes everything necessary to feed
and provide for its inhabitants. Can
anyone deny that the earth is capable of
producing more than enough food to
feed the entire globe? Well then, if
people are starving, whose fault is that?
If God made the earth, is He also
supposed to plant and distribute our
crops for us? Do you remember the tons
of food that were shipped to Ethiopia,
but did not reach the starving people
who needed it? Whose fault was that?
The reason that over 90% of the masses
have barely enough to survive on,is that
there is a problem of DISTRIBUTION, not
of SUPPLY .A tiny minority have far more
than they need, depriving the many.
SUFFERING:
Regarding suffering that is the result of
sin, what could be clearer than Romans
1:28–29 and Galatians 6:8–9? The
unbeliever may stomp about with all
vigor and complain that it is "bigotry" to
associate the rise of AIDS and other
diseases to sin; that biblical morality is
narrow-minded, outdated, and totally
wrong. But this fact is unalterable: In a
society where biblical morality is
abandoned, suffering always increases.
Where biblical morality is followed,
suffering always declines. Always.
(Isa.59:1-4).
As to Hitler, Stalin, street gangs and
senseless murders: Would any of these
things happen if people followed the
teachings of Jesus? Do you realize what
this world would be like if people simply
followed God's instructions? There would
be no murder, no wars. There would be
no welfare, because families
would take care of their own (and
families would stay together) and those
who did not have families would be
provided for by their fellow-members in
Christ. There would be no starvation… I
could go on, but the point is: God has
provided us answers; whose fault is it
that we don't seek them or heed them
when we find them?
I suspect that those who use suffering as
a "proof" of God's non-existence would
not want to have their free choice taken
away from them,but that's exactly what
God would have to do if He were to
enforce His will on the earth. For if God
were to intervene in the matter of
suffering, would He not also intervene in
the matter of sin? If He did, He would
have to be a dictator.
Then how would we react? We would not
want that,and according to the Bible, God
doesn't want it either. He wants us to
obey Him because we want to, not
because we have to. And in order to
accomplish this, He must allow two
things to happen. First, in order to grant
us free choice, He must provide us with
graphic examples of the consequences of
the wrong choice. Secondly,He must
allow injustices and sufferings; otherwise
he'd provide sinful mankind with every
blessing and benefit without restriction.
If everything in this life was fair, good
and happy, what need would there be to
seek a better life? Why would we seek a
Deliverer, if there was nothing to be
delivered from? Suffering is not
something that ought to turn people
away from God, but draw them to Him.

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