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Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by tonychristopher: 11:23am On Nov 23, 2015
realnews:


Your question does not make a single sense.
Asaba is from d word Asabo (Meaning you cannot) in Benin. This was named by Ohime (Eze chima) on his way to Onitsha because he could not cross river Niger. That was before Igala people came and help him cross.


Secondly ur question make no sense. Urhobo people dont argue that they are not from Bini. Yet the word Effurun an Urhobo town has no meaning in Benin. Does that mean Urhobo people are no longer from Bini?

So you have baptised Eze chima ohime ....nawa ugomba I told you that they will rewrite history


OK tell us the meaning of onicha in Benin ..and maybe Benin established the onicha in IMO, anambra , Enugu and ebonyi with abia


Do you know we have onicha in those states


These people seff

Una no dey tire ?

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Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by tonychristopher: 11:25am On Nov 23, 2015
realnews:


The is d problem with you. One of d reason you wont achieve Biafra. because of ur pride u make people who would have helped u achieve ur aim ur enemy.

You are going as far as insulting or reducing Nnamdi Azikiwe just to drive home ur emotional point.

If according to u Ojukwu and Nnamdi Kanu are d greatest Igbo men, that put Nnamdi Azikiwe as third greatest right?

But Ojukwu and Nnamdi Kanu are not from Onitsha.

Nnamdi Azikiwe is from Onitsha. That makes him the greatest Onitsha man in History.

So when it comes to Onitsha ,Nnamdi Azikiwe opinion of his history is d Authority.


So zik was obi of Onitsha the custodian of culture


Do u reason with your blokos?

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Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by tonychristopher: 11:37am On Nov 23, 2015
realnews:



Asaba and all other anioma people are from Benin. Yes it is true other people also settled in those areas. But d primary settlers were bini.




http://www.ibusa.net/asaba-delta%20state.htm

The oral history of the people regards the Ikelike people who migrated from Benin as the first settlers on the land which is today called Asaba. There was Ugboma often regarded as the second settler migrant from Achata in Awka District he settled in Obodo Achala still in existence today but due to ceaseless wars which took place many of these settlers resettled in Achala-Igbuzo, Okpanam and Kwala where they can still be found today. Ugboma was the second settler.

http://www.ibusa.net/asaba-delta%20state.htm


OK let's assume they are Benin ...how come they speak Igbo with Igbo culture?


Did Igbo colonise them or brainwash them


I think you are insulting anioma people indirectly by saying they are daft for forgetting their languages and culture
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by patrick89(m): 1:45pm On Nov 23, 2015
realnews:


Dis ur history is d recent editing of d original history. This ur version is propagated by some UNN professors in history. because they could not deny d benin root, they had to repackage it dis way. All early writtings before 1950 does not angry with ur version. This ur version was created purely on logic out of pride. This is not history.
Bros! can. you also say that igbos in general migrated from benin? if no then you are just making up stories based on folklore! my town has a story that shows the eri only gave. birth to our town and their two other neighbour, infact if you read our own story, you would believe that Eri comes from our town, but the agulu eri is miles away from my town. The story of the idu noba is also very popular in my town, and it didn't erase the fact that we are igbos and not benin..

Besides why has the benin not recognise any prince with a name ezechima?This is the common sense you have to apply here! if you listen to every town's folklore! they are all originated from Adam, all of them claim to come directly from Adam! hence African history can not be taken seriously! if you read what oludah equano account, he identified himself as igbo man, from somewhere in delta state, but also acknowledged the oba of benin! read his account, he never claimed to be from edo or benin! he pointed out that he is an igbo man!!!

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Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Nobody: 2:52pm On Nov 23, 2015
patrick89:

Bros! can. you also say that igbos in general migrated from benin? if no then you are just making up stories based on folklore! my town has a story that shows the eri only gave. birth to our town and their two other neighbour, infact if you read our own story, you would believe that Eri comes from our town, but the agulu eri is miles away from my town. The story of the idu noba is also very popular in my town, and it didn't erase the fact that we are igbos and not benin..

Besides why has the benin not recognise any prince with a name ezechima?This is the common sense you have to apply here! if you listen to every town's folklore! they are all originated from Adam, all of them claim to come directly from Adam! hence African history can not be taken seriously! if you read what oludah equano account, he identified himself as igbo man, from somewhere in delta state, but also acknowledged the oba of benin! read his account, he never claimed to be from edo or benin! he pointed out that he is an igbo man!!!

Igbo in general are not from Benin.
It is Onitsha that is from Benin. this is obvious because even before colonisation only Onitsha had well establish monarchy when other Igbo community didn't have monarchy. This is because of the history of Onitsha being a product of Benin.

Today, Onitsha is not part of benin. Onitsha is igboland today. Nobody is dragging that. History and present is not always the same.
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Nobody: 2:53pm On Nov 23, 2015
patrick89:

Bros! can. you also say that igbos in general migrated from benin? if no then you are just making up stories based on folklore! my town has a story that shows the eri only gave. birth to our town and their two other neighbour, infact if you read our own story, you would believe that Eri comes from our town, but the agulu eri is miles away from my town. The story of the idu noba is also very popular in my town, and it didn't erase the fact that we are igbos and not benin..

Besides why has the benin not recognise any prince with a name ezechima?This is the common sense you have to apply here! if you listen to every town's folklore! they are all originated from Adam, all of them claim to come directly from Adam! hence African history can not be taken seriously! if you read what oludah equano account, he identified himself as igbo man, from somewhere in delta state, but also acknowledged the oba of benin! read his account, he never claimed to be from edo or benin! he pointed out that he is an igbo man!!!

does Nnamdi Azikiwe, the zik of Africa lack common sense? Are you more sensible than the zik of Africa?
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Donarozzi: 3:10pm On Nov 23, 2015
realnews:
History of Onitsha According to - Nnamdi Azikiwe-
"One day I asked her (grandmother) the meaning of the word 'Onitsha'....I continued to belabor my grandmother to tell me more of the history and origins of the Onitsha people...."

Alright, we have heard the story Azikiwe got from his grandmother. What about the story he got from his grandfather? As you know, mothers usually add their own emotions and fantasies into oral history, and therefore their stories are not always true. On the other hand, fathers usually narrate oral history in a more direct and truthful way without letting their emotions get in the way. That is the reason why historians who want to piece together the oral history of a community usually interview the men and not the women. Alright, why would Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe believe the story he got from his grandmother, and not the story he got from his grandfather? Though Azikiwe did not tell us his grandfather's view on the history of Onitsha, we can still answer that question in a fundamental way. Onicha-Ugbo is the head of the entire Umuezechime clan (of which Azikiwe's village Onitsha [Onicha-Mmiri] is a part). The elders of Onicha-Ugbo, who are the bonafide descendants of the first son of Ezechime, said that their patriarch Ezechime came from Nri, one of the oldest Igbo communities. Historians have done a lot of research on this issue, and their findings showed that Chime (Ezechime) was an Igbo man. His name, the names of his followers, the names of his wife and children, the language and culture of his descendants, all evidence points to one direction: Igbo.

From all our research, Ezechime was a wealthy man who moved from Arochukwu to Nri-Awka area during the slave trade. Some of the Umuezechime clan, especially Onicha-Ugbo, said that Ezechime came from Nri-Awka axis, while the people of Nri-Awka axis said that Ezechime originally came from Arochukwu, settled in Nri-Akwa area (Northern Igbo), and founded many communties in both the Northern and Western areas of Igboland. (Note: "Ezechime" is sometimes spelled "Ezechima" in some Igbo dialects).

"Orofia is the second largest village in Abagana today in terms of population and land mass after Umudunu. As is the case with Umudunu, its founder was an immigrant called "Chime" ("Chima" in some dialects).

"According to further account of our sources, this Chime was a great warrior, adventurer, and statesman who came from "Ohafia" near Arochukwu in Abia State in search of slaves and merchandise. Some elders say that Chime rather came from Arochukwu but many of his followers were from Ohafia and environs. Our source had it that this man founded "Orofia" settlement in other towns like Nimo, Enugu-Ukwu, Eziowelle, Alor, Umudioka, Ogbunike, Ogidi, Ukpo, Oraukwu, and others in the course of his numerous adventures and expeditions, but finally settled in Abagana with his soldiers of fortune and founded "Orofia village Abagana". Chime later married from Akpu Abagana and eventually crossed the River Niger with his family and followers, and in the course of the adventure, he founded Onicha Ugbo, Onicha Olona, Issele Ukwu, Issele Azagba, Issele Mkpitime, Obior, Onicha Mmiri, which are all part of the Ezechima clan in Igboland."

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Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Udmaster(m): 3:12pm On Nov 23, 2015
realnews:


before colonisation only Onitsha had well establish monarchy when other Igbo community didn't have monarchy.
Olodo, what kind of useless talk is that.
Before the coming of the white man, IGBOS have
1. The NRI Kingdom- the oldest kingdom. Est 948BC and monarchy in Nigeria and the Eze Nri is the Spiritual Leader and Custodian of the Igbo Culture even today.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Nri
2) The Arochukwu Ancient Kingdom which is led by Eze Aro
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arochukwu
3) Nnewi Kingdom- A well established Igbo kingdom who were part of the Eri Royal Lineage and today the Igwe Of Nnewi leads the kingdom
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igwe_of_Nnewi_kingdom
Plus other more..
Where is that realnews
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Nobody: 3:22pm On Nov 23, 2015
Donarozzi:


Alright, we have heard the story Azikiwe got from his grandmother. What about the story he got from his grandfather? As you know, mothers usually add their own emotions and fantasies into oral history, and therefore their stories are not always true. On the other hand, fathers usually narrate oral history in a more direct and truthful way without letting their emotions get in the way. That is the reason why historians who want to piece together the oral history of a community usually interview the men and not the women. Alright, why would Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe believe the story he got from his grandmother, and not the story he got from his grandfather? Though Azikiwe did not tell us his grandfather's view on the history of Onitsha, we can still answer that question in a fundamental way. Onicha-Ugbo is the head of the entire Umuezechime clan (of which Azikiwe's village Onitsha [Onicha-Mmiri] is a part). The elders of Onicha-Ugbo, who are the bonafide descendants of the first son of Ezechime, said that their patriarch Ezechime came from Nri, one of the oldest Igbo communities. Historians have done a lot of research on this issue, and their findings showed that Chime (Ezechime) was an Igbo man. His name, the names of his followers, the names of his wife and children, the language and culture of his descendants, all evidence points to one direction: Igbo.

From all our research, Ezechime was a wealthy man who moved from Arochukwu to Nri-Awka area during the slave trade. Some of the Umuezechime clan, especially Onicha-Ugbo, said that Ezechime came from Nri-Awka axis, while the people of Nri-Awka axis said that Ezechime originally came from Arochukwu, settled in Nri-Akwa area (Northern Igbo), and founded many communties in both the Northern and Western areas of Igboland. (Note: "Ezechime" is sometimes spelled "Ezechima" in some Igbo dialects).

"Orofia is the second largest village in Abagana today in terms of population and land mass after Umudunu. As is the case with Umudunu, its founder was an immigrant called "Chime" ("Chima" in some dialects).

"According to further account of our sources, this Chime was a great warrior, adventurer, and statesman who came from "Ohafia" near Arochukwu in Abia State in search of slaves and merchandise. Some elders say that Chime rather came from Arochukwu but many of his followers were from Ohafia and environs. Our source had it that this man founded "Orofia" settlement in other towns like Nimo, Enugu-Ukwu, Eziowelle, Alor, Umudioka, Ogbunike, Ogidi, Ukpo, Oraukwu, and others in the course of his numerous adventures and expeditions, but finally settled in Abagana with his soldiers of fortune and founded "Orofia village Abagana". Chime later married from Akpu Abagana and eventually crossed the River Niger with his family and followers, and in the course of the adventure, he founded Onicha Ugbo, Onicha Olona, Issele Ukwu, Issele Azagba, Issele Mkpitime, Obior, Onicha Mmiri, which are all part of the Ezechima clan in Igboland."

I choose to believe what Nnamdi Azikiwe believed. Because he is d greatest man ever who hails from Onitsha. If he believe onitsha was founded by Bini Prince, i believe him too. Simple. It makes sense to me just the same way it make sense to Nnamdi Azikiwe, the zik of Africa.

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Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by ISpiksDaTroof: 3:25pm On Nov 23, 2015
Scholes007:
Ignore this thread...
Why do you despise others?
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Forwetinnah: 4:27pm On Nov 23, 2015
Guys seriously enough of this banter!! We are making ourselves the Laughing stock of those Namas up North. This drama has gotten stale. .we should be deliberating on how things would get better for the South as we leave the animals to fend for themselves. I don't see how this will guarantee self determination down South
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Nobody: 7:49pm On Nov 23, 2015
Forwetinnah:
Guys seriously enough of this banter!! We are making ourselves the Laughing stock of those Namas up North. This drama has gotten stale. .we should be deliberating on how things would get better for the South as we leave the animals to fend for themselves. I don't see how this will guarantee self determination down South

if us within the south, deliberately refuse the connection among us, where some people in the south feel they have monopoly of what is true history and what is false, then we in the south are not ready yet for self determination. When you feel you are better than everyone around you, when you don't have respect for ur neighbour, they will never support you.

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Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by basilo101: 8:08pm On Nov 23, 2015
There are many other Onichas in the Igbo hinterlands while there is none in Benin. Eze and chime are popular names in the igbo hinterlands but does not exist in Benin. Conclusiion: The founders of Onitsha are Igbos who lived in Benin but returned wen the thriving empire started falling. Same as Nsukka ppl who went to the thriving Igala empire at Idah but left when it collpsed and migrated eastwards until they re established contact with their fellow igbos.
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Nobody: 9:35pm On Nov 23, 2015
basilo101:
There are many other Onichas in the Igbo hinterlands while there is none in Benin. Eze and chime are popular names in the igbo hinterlands but does not exist in Benin. Conclusiion: The founders of Onitsha are Igbos who lived in Benin but returned wen the thriving empire started falling. Same as Nsukka ppl who went to the thriving Igala empire at Idah but left when it collpsed and migrated eastwards until they re established contact with their fellow igbos.

Nnamdi Azikiwe said it is a Benin prince. Nnamdi Azikiwe is most recognised Onitsha man in history. He is an authority. He has no bias in his position. Why should i believe you, when Nnamdi Azikiwe has already spoken and documented his history.

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Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Nobody: 9:35pm On Nov 23, 2015
basilo101:
There are many other Onichas in the Igbo hinterlands while there is none in Benin. Eze and chime are popular names in the igbo hinterlands but does not exist in Benin. Conclusiion: The founders of Onitsha are Igbos who lived in Benin but returned wen the thriving empire started falling. Same as Nsukka ppl who went to the thriving Igala empire at Idah but left when it collpsed and migrated eastwards until they re established contact with their fellow igbos.

Nnamdi Azikiwe said it is a Benin prince. Nnamdi Azikiwe is d most recognised Onitsha man in history. He is an authority. He has no bias in his position. Why should i believe you, when Nnamdi Azikiwe has already spoken and documented his history.
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Vicotex(m): 9:44pm On Nov 23, 2015
Realnews, you also forgot that my clan, "Edda" was also created by one Auchi man that once lived in bini. Ever heard of akalaka?
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Vicotex(m): 9:47pm On Nov 23, 2015
realnews:


Nnamdi Azikiwe said it is a Benin prince. Nnamdi Azikiwe is d most recognised Onitsha man in history. He is an authority. He has no bias in his position. Why should i believe you, when Nnamdi Azikiwe has already spoken and documented his history.
fortunately, his father is not a bini king neither are his ancestors from that diabolic bini tribe
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Nobody: 10:04pm On Nov 23, 2015
Vicotex:
fortunately, his father is not a bini king neither are his ancestors from that diabolic bini tribe

Why are u emotional. I only posted Nnamdi Azikiwe Autobiography. Why are u crying over it

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Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Abagworo(m): 10:13pm On Nov 23, 2015
It is always best we allow people from specific area and knowledgeable about their history to tell their stories. All the Igbo speaking people that have Benin styled Kingship including my own town of Oguta in Imo State have the same history of migration from Ado n'Idu which I know was a bordering area with Igbo people ruled by Benin King in olden days. That area is between today's Igbanke and Agbor. The evidence of ancient form of Igbo spoken is clearly there as the older original Ika words lean obviously towards Igbo as well as lexis and structure of Ika language. The Benin words fill in sentences like borrowed words.

If you write the phrase

"I like eba with egusi and pomo" it shows clearly that its English with Eba, Egusi and pomo as borrowed Yoruba words.

So Azikiwe is right that we came from ancient Benin empire but we have always been Igbos even while at Ado n'Idu and that was the reason we fell out with the Oba. If you read history of Ijaw you will discover that they equally lived at another edge of Bini and migrated out just like Igbos.
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Duru1(m): 10:14pm On Nov 23, 2015
Nigerians are merely onlookers when compared to historic operators. Any groups of people who do not have sense of industrial productivity can never be good tellers of historical fact. Most Nigerians are dumb and have steam dishonesty towards history thereby failing woefully in organized endeavors.
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by pazienza(m): 10:15pm On Nov 23, 2015
OP, do you believe everything Zik says and hold them as sacrosanct?

If you do, it will be interesting, cos I have other interesting quotes and statements of Zik that I would be glad if you as an Oduanistani or Edoid will accept as sacrosanct too. cheesy
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Nobody: 11:04am On Nov 24, 2015
Abagworo:
It is always best we allow people from specific area and knowledgeable about their history to tell their stories. All the Igbo speaking people that have Benin styled Kingship including my own town of Oguta in Imo State have the same history of migration from Ado n'Idu which I know was a bordering area with Igbo people ruled by Benin King in olden days. That area is between today's Igbanke and Agbor. The evidence of ancient form of Igbo spoken is clearly there as the older original Ika words lean obviously towards Igbo as well as lexis and structure of Ika language. The Benin words fill in sentences like borrowed words.

If you write the phrase

"I like eba with egusi and pomo" it shows clearly that its English with Eba, Egusi and pomo as borrowed Yoruba words.

So Azikiwe is right that we came from ancient Benin empire but we have always been Igbos even while at Ado n'Idu and that was the reason we fell out with the Oba. If you read history of Ijaw you will discover that they equally lived at another edge of Bini and migrated out just like Igbos.

Yes, you may be right on the fact that the people may not be bini. But the first Obi of Onitsha is more likely to be a bini prince. the story is the same with that of lagos. The first Oba of Lagos was a bini prince according to lagos state government website. But the original people of lagos are not bini.

The different between an average Yoruba and an average Ibo on this issues is that an average Yoruba will not see any reason to start questioning what is true just because of pride.




http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/pagelinks.php?p=8

History of Lagos State


Prior to the Portuguese name of Lagos being adopted, Lagos was originally called Eko, which stems from either Oko (Yoruba: "cassava farm"wink or Eko ("war camp"wink, by its Bini conquerors. History has it that the Oba of Bini sent various trade expeditions to Ghana where spices were traded and one of his traders complained about the way she was being treated by the Awori's. The Oba of Bini then sent a trade expedition by sea. Ironically, the leader of the expedition arrived in the evening at a time when the people who were predominantly fishermen were either wading into the water or getting into their boats to gather their catch. He declined to engage them further and returned to what is now called Benin City where he reported to the Oba of Bini that they were attacked. This prompted the Oba of Bini to constitute a war expedition led by Ado, a Bini Prince to go to Lagos and demand an explanation. This was over 650 years ago. However, on getting there, they were well received. The people were so enamored with Ado they asked him to stay and lead them. He agreed on the condition that they surrendered their sovereignty to the Oba of Bini to which they agreed. The Oba of Bini was told this and he gave his permission for the expedition to remain. The Oba of Bini later sent some of his chiefs including the Eletu Odibo, Obanikoro and others to assist Ado in the running of Eko. Till today, the Oba of Lagos is the head of all the Kings in Lagos State and his status is different from other Oba's most of whom were later given back their crowns and staff of office only within the last 40 years and have various classifications. Suffice it to state that those who got their crowns back were the original land owners. These were Olofin's children. Moreover, modern day Lagosians have so intermingled that no single tribe or people can claim it even though the predominant language is Yoruba. The present day Lagos state has a higher percent of this sub-group who allegedly migrated to the area from Isheri along the Ogun river.

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Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Nobody: 11:07am On Nov 24, 2015
pazienza:
OP, do you believe everything Zik says and hold them as sacrosanct?

If you do, it will be interesting, cos I have other interesting quotes and statements of Zik that I would be glad if you as an Oduanistani or Edoid will accept as sacrosanct too. cheesy

Zik position was more on the Lineage of the Obi of Onitsha which he belong. And he believe it is off benin ancestory. For sure people may be leaving in Onitsha before Ohime (Eze Chime) got to Onitsha. But him being a Benin prince with influence and power of Benin empire at that time was able to create a monarchy.

This is d same story of lagos and Oba of lagos according to Lagos state government.
You can read the history of lagos by Lagos state government.





http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/pagelinks.php?p=8

History of Lagos State


Prior to the Portuguese name of Lagos being adopted, Lagos was originally called Eko, which stems from either Oko (Yoruba: "cassava farm"wink or Eko ("war camp"wink, by its Bini conquerors. History has it that the Oba of Bini sent various trade expeditions to Ghana where spices were traded and one of his traders complained about the way she was being treated by the Awori's. The Oba of Bini then sent a trade expedition by sea. Ironically, the leader of the expedition arrived in the evening at a time when the people who were predominantly fishermen were either wading into the water or getting into their boats to gather their catch. He declined to engage them further and returned to what is now called Benin City where he reported to the Oba of Bini that they were attacked. This prompted the Oba of Bini to constitute a war expedition led by Ado, a Bini Prince to go to Lagos and demand an explanation. This was over 650 years ago. However, on getting there, they were well received. The people were so enamored with Ado they asked him to stay and lead them. He agreed on the condition that they surrendered their sovereignty to the Oba of Bini to which they agreed. The Oba of Bini was told this and he gave his permission for the expedition to remain. The Oba of Bini later sent some of his chiefs including the Eletu Odibo, Obanikoro and others to assist Ado in the running of Eko. Till today, the Oba of Lagos is the head of all the Kings in Lagos State and his status is different from other Oba's most of whom were later given back their crowns and staff of office only within the last 40 years and have various classifications. Suffice it to state that those who got their crowns back were the original land owners. These were Olofin's children. Moreover, modern day Lagosians have so intermingled that no single tribe or people can claim it even though the predominant language is Yoruba. The present day Lagos state has a higher percent of this sub-group who allegedly migrated to the area from Isheri along the Ogun river
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Vicotex(m): 1:56pm On Nov 24, 2015
realnews:


Why are u emotional. I only posted Nnamdi Azikiwe Autobiography. Why are u crying over it
last time i checked, you were the one whose eyes is bloody shut due to much down pour
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Scholes007(m): 4:17pm On Nov 24, 2015
ISpiksDaTroof:
Why do you despise others?
i don't despise anyone neither do any of my brothers
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by NRIPRIEST(m): 4:42pm On Nov 24, 2015
realnews:


Zik position was more on the Lineage of the Obi of Onitsha which he belong. And he believe it is off benin ancestory. For sure people may be leaving in Onitsha before Ohime (Eze Chime) got to Onitsha. But him being a Benin prince with influence and power of Benin empire at that time was able to create a monarchy.

This is d same story of lagos and Oba of lagos according to Lagos state government.
You can read the history of lagos by Lagos state government.





http://www.lagosstate.gov.ng/pagelinks.php?p=8

History of Lagos State


Prior to the Portuguese name of Lagos being adopted, Lagos was originally called Eko, which stems from either Oko (Yoruba: "cassava farm"wink or Eko ("war camp"wink, by its Bini conquerors. History has it that the Oba of Bini sent various trade expeditions to Ghana where spices were traded and one of his traders complained about the way she was being treated by the Awori's. The Oba of Bini then sent a trade expedition by sea. Ironically, the leader of the expedition arrived in the evening at a time when the people who were predominantly fishermen were either wading into the water or getting into their boats to gather their catch. He declined to engage them further and returned to what is now called Benin City where he reported to the Oba of Bini that they were attacked. This prompted the Oba of Bini to constitute a war expedition led by Ado, a Bini Prince to go to Lagos and demand an explanation. This was over 650 years ago. However, on getting there, they were well received. The people were so enamored with Ado they asked him to stay and lead them. He agreed on the condition that they surrendered their sovereignty to the Oba of Bini to which they agreed. The Oba of Bini was told this and he gave his permission for the expedition to remain. The Oba of Bini later sent some of his chiefs including the Eletu Odibo, Obanikoro and others to assist Ado in the running of Eko. Till today, the Oba of Lagos is the head of all the Kings in Lagos State and his status is different from other Oba's most of whom were later given back their crowns and staff of office only within the last 40 years and have various classifications. Suffice it to state that those who got their crowns back were the original land owners. These were Olofin's children. Moreover, modern day Lagosians have so intermingled that no single tribe or people can claim it even though the predominant language is Yoruba. The present day Lagos state has a higher percent of this sub-group who allegedly migrated to the area from Isheri along the Ogun river


oh,now its "Ohime"...lol
you know you gonna have a lot of explaining to do if you want to change names. ....lol. like towns,festival,name of days,weeks,deities,chants and a whole lot of changes to do...thread carefully....ever wondered why Igue festival is alien to Ezechime clan ? contunuu ooo

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Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Donarozzi: 11:26pm On Nov 29, 2015
http://africandemocrat.com/content/taking-dr-azikiwe-onitsha-origin

Taking on Dr Azikiwe on Onitsha origin

Most notable Igbo historians disprove Onitsha’s Edo genealogy, but not their Edo prolonged residency and domiciliary. The fact that culture contact of Ezechime and Bini Kingdom resulted resulted in pseudo-monarchy of Onitsha people do not translate to blood genealogy with the Edo people. Professors Afigbo, Onwuejeogwu, Nzimiro, Onwumechili, Alaezi, Echeruo, among others, who were the giants in the research into Igbo history uniformly posted a caveat that although:

"The names of the founding fathers, the basic customs, and the language (were) Igbo.....It is not unlikely that some kingship emblems may have been borrowed from Benin....... A distinction must be made between the origin of the people and the origin of some political institutions. "

I concur with these giants, in toto.

We also know from all accounts of the migration of Ezechime that he left with his nine frown sons and large descendants; and even if Ezechime recklessly omitted to record with specificity of his travails and genealogy, his grown adult sons like, Onicha Ugbo, would have at least done the needful as an traditionally tutored “Bini prince” versed in the culture of written history; that is, if he were truly a Bini prince as claimed by the Onitsha stock of Umu-Ezechime. However, Onicha Ugbo, who was the disputed first son of Ezechime passed on to his descendant that his ancestors (including Ezechime) came from Nri in old Awka district of Eastern Region. The purported Nri genealogy explains the central distinguishing feature of all Umu-Ezechime, which apart from their pseudo-monarchical government, was their celebration of “ozo title traditional rites”, which is 100 % core Igbo culture. In fact, this has a fundamental factual implication to the extent that even Umu-Ezechime who never had “direct” contact with hinterland or mainland Igbo where this “Ozo title rites” are religiously practiced, also celebrate this ozo rite. The universality of this ozo culture amongst the Umu-Ezechime means that Onitsha people could not have copied their “Ozo title rites” by their direct culture contact with mainland Igbos, as their brothers west of the Niger river and as far off as Agbor celebrate r “ozo rites”. Hence, Ozo traditional rite which has nothing to do whatsoever with Bini culture was not a product of “ culture contact” with mainland Igbo, but a product of Ezechime’s “Igbo heritage’ , which is principally justified by his Igbo patrilineal genealogy.

http://africandemocrat.com/content/taking-dr-azikiwe-onitsha-origin

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Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by oyatz(m): 2:42pm On Jan 25, 2016
Balkan:
Sometimes, I wonder why all these people that said they migrated from Bini don't have their own language. Why do all of them speak Igbo dialect. They forget their language as they travel.
Because what we NOW known as Igbo Language is actually a fusion of the Migrants' Languages,Igala and MANY aboriginal peoples inhabiting what now constitute the South-east of Nigeria.
NO LANGUAGE develop from only ONE source
Re: Onitsha was founded by Edo Prince.(by Nnamdi Azikiwe the zik of Africa) by Nobody: 2:47pm On Jan 25, 2016
interesting

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