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Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by alrahmanonline(m): 4:24am On Dec 09, 2015 |
December 1, 2015 by Dan Barker 364
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By Dan Barker
Co-President, Freedom From Religion
Foundation
When Muslims commit violence against the
innocent to further their ideological or
political agenda, they are called, appropriately,
“Muslim terrorists.” But when Christians do the
same, they are rarely called “Christian
terrorists.” Why not?
The FBI deems terrorism “the unlawful use of
force or violence against persons or property
to intimidate or coerce a government, the
civilian population, or any segment thereof, in
furtherance of political or social
objectives .” [Emphasis mine.] By that
definition, Robert Lewis Dear, the North
Carolina Baptist who is accused of killing three
people and wounding nine in a shooting
rampage last week at a Planned Parenthood
clinic in Colorado Springs with an alleged
ideological purpose, should be called a
“Christian terrorist.”
So should many others, like Eric Rudolph, the
“Olympic Park Bomber” who committed a
number of anti-abortion and anti-gay-
motivated bombings in the 1990s which killed
two people and injured over 120 others;
Timothy McVeigh, the Roman Catholic who
bombed the Federal Building in Oklahoma City
in 1995, killing 168 people and wounding more
than 600; and Anders Behring Breivik, the
Norwegian Lutheran who killed eight people in
2011 with a bomb in Oslo, then shot dead 69
participants at a youth summer camp in order
to protect his country from a Muslim takeover.
But so far, I have not seen anyone in the
mainstream media use the phrase “Christian
terrorist” to describe a Protestant or Catholic
who commits terrorism.
Why the double standard? Is it because
everybody “knows” that true Christians would
never do such a thing? Is it because “they” are
bad but “we” are good? “Their” criminals
represent a morally corrupt system, but “our”
criminals are acting on their own, outside the
true faith?
There seems to be a simplistic tendency,
especially among “true believers,” to treat a
grammatical equality like the commutative law
in math. Since “2 + 3” equals “3 + 2,” then
“Muslims are terrorists” equals “terrorists are
Muslims” in some minds. We see this fatal
fallacy in Christians who decide that all
Muslims must be evil. If they allowed
themselves to put the words “Christian” and
“terrorist” in the same phrase, they might
imagine they are conceding that Christianity
embraces terrorism. So they avoid the phrase,
and the responsibility.
We also have an instinctive tendency to
demonize the enemy while celebrating our own
tribe. Whenever the Christian European
“settlers” won a battle against the “aggressive”
native Americans, it was called a victory, but
when the Indians won, it was called a
massacre. It is easy to call strangers
“terrorists.” It is almost impossible to do that
with your own in-group.
Everybody “knows” that true religion is
peaceful and nonviolent. But what everybody
knows is not necessarily what is true. I am not
the first to comment on the double standard,
but I think the reason we should call violent
believers terrorists is not because they
represent a lunatic fringe, but because
Judaism, Christianity and Islam are, at their
core, ideologies of violence.
Jesus admitted as much: “Do not think that I
have come to bring peace to the earth; I have
not come to bring peace, but a sword.”
(Matthew 10:34, NRSV) “Whoever does not
abide in me is thrown away like a branch and
withers; such branches are gathered, thrown
into the fire, and burned.” (John 15:6, a verse
responsible for the burning of nonbelievers.)
At the National Prayer Breakfast this year,
President Barack Obama said, “No God
condones terror.” He claimed that the Islamic
State is “warping” religion: “As people of faith,
we are summoned to push back against those
who try to distort our religion—any religion—
for their own nihilistic ends.”
But Obama, like most Christians, is the one
who is distorting his religion. In the bible, his
own deity actually uses the word “terror” to
describe his intentions:
“A terror from God fell upon the cities.”
Genesis 35:5 NRSV
“I will send my terror in front of you.”
Exodus 23:27 NRSV
“I will bring terror on you.” Leviticus
26:16 NRSV
“. . . all the great terror which Moses
shewed in the sight of all Israel.”
Deuteronomy 34:12 KJV
“Hide in the dust from the terror of the
Lord.” Isaiah 2:105 NRSV
“The terrors of God are arrayed against
me.” Job 6:4 NRSV
“I was in terror of calamity from God.”
Job 31:23 NRSV
“They shall be in great terror , for God is
with the company of the righteous.”
Psalms 14:5 NRSV
“I will make them an object of terror and
of plunder.” Ezekiel 23:46 NRSV
The God of the bible is a self-confessed
terrorist.
In 2014, Obama said: “No religion condones
the killing of innocents.” However, the God of
the Israelites not only condoned but
commanded and committed the killing of
innocents.
“I will punish the world for its evil. . . .
Whoever is caught will fall by the sword.
Their infants will be dashed in pieces
before their eyes; their houses will be
plundered and their wives ravished. . . .
they will have no mercy on the fruit of
the womb; their eyes will not pity
children.” Isaiah 13:11–18 RSV
“Thus saith the Lord of hosts . . . Now go
and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all
that they have, and spare them not; but
slay both man and woman, infant and
suckling.” 1 Samuel 15:2–3 KJV
“Samaria shall become desolate; for she
hath rebelled against her God: they shall
fall by the sword: their infants shall be
dashed in pieces, and their women with
child shall be ripped up.” Hosea 13:16
KJV
Hundreds of bloodthirsty verses like these are
splattered across scripture, as documented in
Ruth Hurmence Green’s The Born Again
Skeptic’s Guide to the Bible and my book GOD:
The Most Unpleasant Character in All Fiction
. The biblical Israelites were “God-fearing
terrorists” as they stormed their way across
Canaan, murdering, raping, pillaging,
destroying altars, burning entire cities as
commanded by Yahweh. So were the Crusaders
and Inquisitors. The Catholics and Protestants
during the Thirty Years War were Christian
terrorists killing each other. The KKK, the anti-
semitic Nazis, the Romanian Iron Guard, the
Ugandan Lord’s Resistance Army, the Lebanese
Maronite anti-Muslim militia, and so on, were
Christians who committed violence against
innocent people “in furtherance of political or
social objectives.”
The Army of God, an American anti-abortionist
group that advocates the use of violence, is
described by Wikipedia as “a Christian
terrorist” organization. NARAL Pro-Choice
America president Ilyse Hogue, in a statement
last month calling for a tougher investigation
of anti-abortion violence, wrote: “The media
need to report these incidents as what they
are: domestic terrorism.”
Not all believers are bad, of course. Most
religionists, like most nonbelievers, are good
people. But when some of them take their
lethal religion seriously and perform horrific
acts against humanity, we should tell it like it
is. A Christian motivated by faith to commit
terror is a Christian terrorist. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by alrahmanonline(m): 4:25am On Dec 09, 2015 |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by amtaken(f): 4:30am On Dec 09, 2015 |
Hmnnnn Sick analysis.... Thou shall not take the name of God in vain. |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by alrahmanonline(m): 4:34am On Dec 09, 2015 |
just want pple to know about the double standard of the west towards muslims... |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by alrahmanonline(m): 4:37am On Dec 09, 2015 |
amtaken:You're very funny, this does not have anything to do with name of God it's all about fact, before you condemn this analysis, grab a bible and get your facts right.. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by HoodedCLAWs(m): 4:44am On Dec 09, 2015 |
Be it christian, moslem or atheist terrorist, gruesome, slow and painful death to all of them. If Op becomes a terrorist tomorrow, throw him into a burning furnace. |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by madridguy(m): 5:34am On Dec 09, 2015 |
To me, we have just two people on earth. The good and the bad. Regardless of your religion, ethnicity, tribe and race, if you're good you're good and also if you're bad you're bad. No religion is evil. As a Muslim, if am bad, blame it on me as a Muslim and not on ISLAM my noble religion. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by italo: 5:42am On Dec 09, 2015 |
@alrahmanonline, Please show us a terrorist that claims to get his inspiration to kill from Jesus, the Church or the Bible.. ...and I will join you in condemning him or her. Then compare the number to the number that claim to be killing, raping and enslaving people for Allah. I'm waiting. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by Pheals(f): 5:42am On Dec 09, 2015 |
This op mumu die o chai.!!!! Imagine God of the Bible is a terrorist.... God can kill and bring back life he owns everything...... every one knows U people are terrorist y disturbing your brain quoting Bible to prove God killing and calling Christian a terrorist your brain na liquid Bros seriously Muslim are terrorist, y complain does Saudi allow Christianity?
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Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by Khd95(m): 5:46am On Dec 09, 2015 |
D bible God is d biggest muderer of all time,he mudered nd mudered both innocent nd guilty ones,he wasnt satisfied,he instructed christians to muder em Even mr jesus said. For those enemies of mine who will not let me reign over them,bring them forth nd slay them b4 me...luke 19:27 1 Like |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by alrahmanonline(m): 6:41am On Dec 09, 2015 |
HoodedCLAWs:You're on point my brother, that is exactly my point, why is it that if a muslim commits a criminal he's a terrorist, but if a chritian commit the same crime, he's a fascist or criminal, terrorist is terrorist be it christian, muslim or atheist.. |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by alrahmanonline(m): 6:45am On Dec 09, 2015 |
madridguy:Bro you're sighted in 3D.. You can see them... as usual, instead getting the message and digesting it, they resolve to attack the messenger... Nawao |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by alrahmanonline(m): 6:49am On Dec 09, 2015 |
italo:did you read the post at all? |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by alrahmanonline(m): 6:55am On Dec 09, 2015 |
Pheals:O girl, cool down, grab your bible and check those verses before you Spit fire on my head, |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by italo: 7:18am On Dec 09, 2015 |
alrahmanonline: Yes. It doesn't mention Christians who claim that inspiration for their killing is from the Bible...or the Church...or God... ...so that we can compare them to the number of Muslims who claim that Allah sent them (through Muhammad's Quran) to kill, rape and enslave infidels. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by malvisguy212: 7:33am On Dec 09, 2015 |
Khd95:luke 19 was a parable, give me verse in the bible were God kill and command us to follow ? Surah 4:74: Therefore, let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world’s life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward. (Shakir) You will never find such command in the bible were God command people to fight and get a free passege to heaven. The reason why muslims will continue to terrorize the world is because the quran command them to do so, the quran say All pious muslims will burn in hell. Surah 19:71: “There shall be none of you but shall descend into the same (hell): This is an established decree upon thy Lord.” Since all Muslims, including pious ones, will have to spend a waiting-period in Hell before reaching Paradise, Allah made a bargain with Muslims. He told them that if they die fighting for his cause, he will forgive their sins and will save them from the “grievous Penalty” of Hell-fire. In other words, there is no need to burn in Hell-fire until they are rescued on the Day of Resurrection. Paradise will be instant for those who die fighting for Allah. Surah 61:10-13: O YE WHO BELIEVE! SHALL I LEAD YOU TO A BARGAIN THAT WILL SAVE YOU FROM THE GRIEVOUS PENALTY ? – THAT YE BELIEVE IN Allah and His Messenger, and that ye STRIVE YOUR UTMOST IN THE CAUSE OF Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement. And another favour will He bestow, which ye do love, – help from Allah and a speedy victory. (Yusuf Ali) 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by Khd95(m): 7:46am On Dec 09, 2015 |
malvisguy212: ogbeni calm down,u cannot continue to deny d fact dat ur bible is a death manual. Here are some evidence,help ur self out 1 ''now therefore KILL every male among little and KILL every woman(female) that hath known man by lying(having sex) with him. But keep ALIVE for yourselves all the GIRLS and the women who are VIRGINS''...number31:17-18 2 byt of the cities of these pple which the lord thy God give thee for an inheritance,thou(o jews) shalt save alive NOTHING that BREATHETH...deut20:16 3 check up 1sam6:19 the bible God murders 50,070 for looking into a box these are just few of d murders nd death instructions in d bible,so what are u saying? |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by malvisguy212: 8:04am On Dec 09, 2015 |
alrahmanonline:although the old testament are for the Jews who reject grace, I will reply some of you confusion in them. The verses in the new testament in the op are parable concerning the end time. If Jesus want war , He say it Himself that He will ask His father and will be given legion of Angels. And to the old testament verses. The amalikites were the one who draw the FIRST blood during the exedus ; Exedus 17:8 8 The Amalekites came and attacked the Israelites at Rephidim. The attack isreal again in deutoronumy: Deutoronumy 25:17-18 "When you were weary and worn out, they met you on your journey and cut off all who were lagging behind" They later attacked Israel during the time of the Judges (Jdg 3:13) and often raided the Israelites' land after they had planted crops, leaving them with nothing ( Jdg 6:2-5). God punished the Amalekites by ordering Saul to destroy them ( 1 Sam 15:2-3) - over 300 years after they had first attacked Israel. During that time, the Amalekites had contact with the Israelites and would have heard about God. They could have repented and changed their ways, but they continued to raid and plunder other cities up to the time of Saul and David (1 Sam 30:1-3). The Amalekites that Saul and David warred against were clearly no better than their ancestors who had first waylaid Israel. The revenge was in fact punishment from God on an unrepentant nation. As noted above, they were given ample time to change their ways ( if the amalikites wanted to repent 300 years is enough time for repentance YET they did not ) . While it was the descendents of the original attackers who were punished, they led the same evil lifestyle that their ancestors had. Genesis 15:16 After four generations your descendants will return here to this land, WHEN THE SIN OF THE AMORITES HAS RUN IT COURSE." - God did not carry out the measure of the amorite sin until 300 years later, surly enough time for repentance. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by alrahmanonline(m): 8:32am On Dec 09, 2015 |
malvisguy212:hypocrisy is When the word "kill in the bible is a parable, but it is an instruction inside quran SMH 1 Like |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by malvisguy212: 8:37am On Dec 09, 2015 |
Khd95:let me repeat myself again, does that verse look like Law or commandments people should follow? The verse was against adulterous people unless you are in favour of this wicked people, let me ask, are you a pagan ? If no, go and read the context of the verses you paste and understand the whole story, even a primary school pupils will understand the story. in number 31. the Midianites were descendants of Abraham through Keturah, and by the time of Numbers 31, were a ‘tribal league’ of different clans and families. The midianites were corrupted and they are seducing isreal to worship others gods: Numbers 25:1-3 1 While Israel was staying in Shittim, the men began to indulge in se*xual immorality with MOABITE WOMEN,2 who invited them to the sacrifices to their gods. The people ate and bowed down before these gods. 3 So ISREAL JOINED IN WORSHIPPING the Baal of Peor. And the LORD's anger burned against them. You see, the isrealite were having se*xual intercourse with the moabite women ,and this women are baal worshippers , because God had promise an everlasting covenant with Abraham, so he want to preserve the midianites , hence He save the virgin, infacte this virgin had to wait outside isreal for purification: Number31:19 19 And all of you who have killed anyone or touched a dead body must stay outside the camp for seven days. You must PURIFY YOURSELVES and your CAPTIVES on the third and seventh days. And in number 25:17-18. It state why God oder the killing: The LORD said to Moses, 17 “Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them, 18 because they treated you as enemies when they deceived you in the affair of Peor and their sister Cozbi, the daughter of a Midianite leader, the woman who was killed when the plague came as a result of Peor.” The reasons are stated in this passage as: (1)hostilities taken by the Midianites; and (2) deception of Israel by them, in the ‘affair of Peor’. So God preserve the virgins so that the midianites will not be wipe out, for they are among the descendant of Abraham. |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by malvisguy212: 8:42am On Dec 09, 2015 |
alrahmanonline:give me one parable in the quran, if it not a parable, then how many people Jesus kill ? Go and read the life and death of the apostles, even when they convert soo many Jews to christians, they did not form army, instead they were all killed for their faith. But muhammed waited when he successful convert the pagan to islam, he form a large army, jihadist and went on a killing spree, kill everyone who did not believe in Allah or muhammed. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by alrahmanonline(m): 8:48am On Dec 09, 2015 |
malvisguy212:If that's what you call terrorism, google search about the GREAT CRUSADE and tell me what happened if not terrorism |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by malvisguy212: 8:58am On Dec 09, 2015 |
alrahmanonline:very good, now we are off in the bible. The crusade kill people in the name of Jesus, yes there is no doubt about it. Did Jesus command us to hate our enemy ? Let alone kill them ? Jesus even healed a man who came to arrest Him. The TWO greatest commandments Jesus command us to follow is to Love God and not ONLY your neighbor BUT also your enemy. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by Scholar8200(m): 9:37am On Dec 09, 2015 |
Khd95:Now show us where Peter, Paul, John etc obeyed that command or where Jesus led his disciples to such conquest. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by David0(m): 9:42am On Dec 09, 2015 |
alrahmanonline: U ever wonder y u keep picking one or two events from years back regarding Christian terrorism? Becos it was never an obligation for Christians, whoever does dat in the name of Jesus, does it at his or her own will, and it is recorded as a sin to him or her. Muslim terrorism...omgosh! Even d kids know about it already. All Muslims ain't terrorist but d tendency to become one is thr because their Quran supports it. We can deny dis every now n then but it's d hard truth. U can only argue wt a Muslim online as far as religion is concern, but u can't try that face to face if u want to live long. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by Nobody: 9:50am On Dec 09, 2015 |
Khd95: Indeed a death manual. Quran is a what then? A living manual? Kindly spare me that, it's because of this Quran first class evils are perpetuated on the globe today. Your blindness in religion has made you think everyone follows this old testament to the letter like you. Old testament is for you to see how people lived in the past, new testament is for you to see how people live now. This rubbish you bring up by writing facts from old testament shows you muslims are not only backward, but jealous at the same time. No one follows the Old testament your barbaric tendencies make you think we are going to use it like you muslims. This is the more reason you continue to get bans from several nations, because some muslims reason and behave like super animals. Forget your beef with Christianity, even Buddha and Hindu are tired of this crap you fellows bring up in the name of radical islam. This is why you get this kind of treatment on social media and some other nations, until you change your views about religion. Stop killing people you muslims. |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by alrahmanonline(m): 10:55am On Dec 09, 2015 |
David0:Tell me you don't have a muslim friend and I'll show you the greatest lier on earth, btw how do you cope with your so called muslim/terrorist friend? SMH for your hypocricy.. |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by alrahmanonline(m): 11:07am On Dec 09, 2015 |
malvisguy212:One thing you guys fail to understand is that muslims do regard jesus, tell me where in the bible where jesus speaks just some days after he was born? it was inside the qur'an... Muslims do believe in jesus but not your type of believe, thus,all the above quotes about terrorism is not about jesus, because it written by him but by your Almighty fraudster named paul, you should ask yourself why there's different types of bible, while there's only one quran.... Reasons is that the terrible verses has to be removed to sweeting the heart of the gullible followers... #Ponder |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by pneumaticos(m): 11:36am On Dec 09, 2015 |
alrahmanonline: This guy thinks with his anus The feel of your talks are that of a guy tut by some imams and have never done a personal finding on who he is worshiping. Let go off your unknown allahh and follow Jesus. Whom I have seen |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by Khd95(m): 11:54am On Dec 09, 2015 |
Scholar8200:do i need to inform u that peter used his sword to cut a servant's ear d guy no get chill at all |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by Khd95(m): 11:56am On Dec 09, 2015 |
gimakon:no one follows d old testament,yet every one in christendom pays tithe,what an hyprocrisy of a religion. Can u tell me where in the new testament ure urged to pay tithe |
Re: Why Is Christian Terrorism Downplayed In The U.S.? by Nobody: 11:59am On Dec 09, 2015 |
alrahmanonline: Damn! NIGGUR, yo Nat well! You don't know what you saying man. O so Paul is now the person to take blemish? These Nairaland Muslims. God na em go help una. |
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