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Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by ShowYourCertificate: 7:47am On Dec 10, 2015 |
adioolayi:Bros you don't get approval for LOANS from the Legislature Rather you get approval for your budgeted expenditure from the Legislature. How you go about sourcing your budget in the short term is your headache (as the executive arm of govt) as long as such sourcing doesn't incur more expenses (in the name of interest or sth) that wasn't covered for in the approved budgeted expenditure. 1 Like |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by DecemberIV: 7:47am On Dec 10, 2015 |
Lies. Those funds were unbudgeted and were not approved by the NA which was why she carefully added a caveat to her statement; "based on the urgency". We are not fooled. NOI was completely out of line to seek approval of ex-budgetary funds without appropriation by the National Assembly. How much interest was paid on the 'loan' and where is the money? She should take her defence to the judge. ShowYourCertificate: 6 Likes |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by DecemberIV: 7:50am On Dec 10, 2015 |
bromama675: Does he also have the power to divert such 'security' funds to his presidential campaign? 5 Likes
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Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by 4nobody4every1: 7:50am On Dec 10, 2015 |
looseweight:. hahahaha, good marketing skils, 2 Likes |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by mazzi: 7:51am On Dec 10, 2015 |
Ma next time don't use gentle words on them they are zombies and the only understand harsh words. |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by helpee(m): 7:54am On Dec 10, 2015 |
texazzpete:stop behaving like an uneducated fellow. we always have security budget. that a money is budgeted for security does not mean the money will come from heaven. they dont have to run to the national assembly everytime they got money to meet budgetary expenses. Did they spend more than the approved amount for security? where they got the money dont matter as long as it is legal and as long as they spend within the limit of the budget. wether the money is used rightly or not is now left for the monitoring committee in the senate 1 Like |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by peteruapata: 7:54am On Dec 10, 2015 |
feldido:The issue is not only about getting the Presidential approval, the issue is about not getting the National Assembly approval before appropriations of extra budgetary spending 2 Likes |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by wiseoneking: 7:54am On Dec 10, 2015 |
doctokwus:Your wholeTRIBE cannot have any one like NOI in 100yrs time. NOI and GEJ are ruling their world with the greatest honour ever to any living Nigerian. Ngozi rules her world and she is loading for the next world bank presido.Love her or die hating. |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by moyinoluwabun(m): 7:54am On Dec 10, 2015 |
I think Buhari shouldn't deman accountability from Abacha loot cos Abacha never stole. Observation: seems d money Abacha looted was cursed cos it's from looting to re-looting. |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by excel101(m): 7:55am On Dec 10, 2015 |
arresa:. Funny enough we've been having several cases of stealing or misuse of funds, but no single person has been legally accused. All dis are absolute rubbish. Rather than dis much talks about embezzlement, the government should start doing something meaningful cos we're tired of all dis stories. |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by slap1(m): 7:57am On Dec 10, 2015 |
doctokwus: Stop using words whose meanings you don't know just to sound important. |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by Orikinla(m): 7:58am On Dec 10, 2015 |
bokohalal:. Only idiots are defending this woman. What she and former President Goodluck Jonathan did is wrong. APC said the funds were diverted through her and she did not deny that in her rejoinder. So where is the falsehood? Guilty conscience is disturbing her. They diverted the funds to the NSA and then Jonathan directed Dokpesi and others to collect billions of naira from Dasuki for his presidential campaigns and left Nigerian soldiers without enough funds to buy arms to defend Nigerians against Boko Haram. The blood of every Nigerian killed by Boko Haram, including the medical students of UNIJOS and thousands of others is on the hands of Jonathan who thought his desperation to win his second term was more important than the lives of innocent Nigerians at the mercy of Boko Haram terrorists. Almighty God JEHOVAH will still judge him and his partners in crime. How can any sane man give over N4 billion to a state governor for spiritualists to pray for his re-election? And he claims to be a Christian? Those clapping for former President Goodluck Jonathan don't even know how the STU-PIDITY of this man and his evil and greedy collaborators caused the tragic deaths of thousands of innocent citizens of Nigeria killed by Boko Haram. And he lied that he knew where the kidnapped Chibok girls were and also lied that he would hand over a Nigerian government freed from Boko Haram. Instead of him to apologize to Nigerians and repent, he is still living in denial! And idiots are commending him? 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by blazetitov: 7:59am On Dec 10, 2015 |
ShowYourCertificate: Please quote the part of the write up where it was stated that such money was budgeted and tell us the particular year's budget. I might have overlooked it 9 Likes |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by tete7000(m): 7:59am On Dec 10, 2015 |
blazetitov: The same constitution that says the President must be a holder of minimum of school certificate and the President till today even after having access to military files cannot produce his certificate. In the heat of a country under war and under the threat of being subjugated some things can as a matter of urgency be sidetracked and approval sought later. War time economy is different from ordinary day economy most especially when you have a house full of APC apologists who seek to run your government down. Do you know how long before the house could even approve emergency rule in the north east? Do you know how difficult it was to get even the northern elders (Buhari the current president inclusive)nod to deploy military in the north east? Sometimes good intentions are enough to give you a nod over bureaucratic and time wasting constitutional provision. It is not Okonjo Eweala's fault that those who suppose to use the money wasted it if that is ever proven. |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by GoodGovernance: 7:59am On Dec 10, 2015 |
blazetitov: The is the core of the matter. Unconstitutional diversion of funds makes monitoring and proper accountability, herculean tasks! 5 Likes |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by agabaI23(m): 7:59am On Dec 10, 2015 |
doctokwus:Can you fault the explanation given? |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by repogirl(f): 8:00am On Dec 10, 2015 |
I didn't even bother reading that their lie lie article, already knew it was a bunch of half strung clap trap nonsense.... Madam Okonjo abeg ignore the bunch of clowning buffoons and keep soaring jare! The higher you go, the more they are pained...they will soon hang themselves over your success. 1 Like |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by Awho(m): 8:01am On Dec 10, 2015 |
all these guys accusing this woman of looting thinks she's a cheap lady to easily work on forgetting the fact that she's a world class financial analyst... and to all of you leaving careless comments please read carefully her detaild explanation |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by Bobby4090: 8:02am On Dec 10, 2015 |
c. the NSA’s office was to account for the spending to the President who was the Commander in Chief, given the fact that the Minister of Finance is not part of the security architecture and does not participate in the Security Council So in other words Jonathan and Dasuki should account for the missing money...smart girl! 2 Likes |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by Orikinla(m): 8:02am On Dec 10, 2015 |
excel101:. You are really an idiot. So, why have they arrested Dasuk and Dokpesi who are now on trial? Re-tarded "Ode". 5 Likes |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by kahara(m): 8:03am On Dec 10, 2015 |
doctokwus: It is obvious u cant swallow her guts. Her defence pricks u like devil beans all over the body. U left the issue she raised and attackd her personality. At ur age she was already a Ph.d.holder. What r u? If Oshomohle thinks he has evidence let him go to court and stop being lousy. |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by GoodGovernance: 8:06am On Dec 10, 2015 |
agabaI23: Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo........! Explaining why you did something does not make what you did appropriate! The constitution of the country remains sacrosanct.You cannot divert government revenue unconstitutionally without proper appropriation and approval by the national assembly! 6 Likes |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by blazetitov: 8:08am On Dec 10, 2015 |
tete7000: This your line of argument get as e be oo. We should not overrule due process in our system as this leads to abuse as seen in present case. The fact is that, people entrusted with responsibility deliberately frustrate the system by creating unnecessary bottlenecks so as to have a reason to abuse the system and your submission is one of the major reasons why abuse of the system might continue. As for PMB's certificate issue, we have moved past that. Don't be left behind. 3 Likes |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by tete7000(m): 8:10am On Dec 10, 2015 |
GoodGovernance: But the money released were all documented. If not this government would not have been able to trace all these money. Exigencies of the day prompted the government to take that course. When the country is under a war and the APC opposition in the house and everywhere sought to run my government down, I will follow the same path. What sometimes matter is: 'Is the action taken in the best interest of the country?' Yes. Is Okonjo Eweala liable as to money been diverted and misappropriated after release? No. Even with constitutional provision honoured, could the money still have been misappropriated? YES! Infact many approved money in this country have been misappropriated. 1 Like |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by kevade: 8:10am On Dec 10, 2015 |
Madam minister does the responsibility of security dwell on the NSA? What about the Ministry of Defence? Was the payment captured in the budget? Is the NSA not an advisory body? If yes how come the NSA is doing all the spending. Madam minister own up to your flops. You did wrong an you know it. Stop trying to expose your crass incompetence. Whose responsibility is it to monitor budgetary spending? Oh OK there was no budgetary provision for the payment. You smartly tried to exonerate yourself by telling the NSA to account to the President while you were still the so called coordinating minister. Madam minister own up to your inability to do th right thing and save us your tales of moon lighting. 7 Likes |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by blazetitov: 8:11am On Dec 10, 2015 |
Awho: World class financial analyst my foot!! She is not cheap but she has been in government since OBJ's term raking in hundreds of millions of Naira. Stop putting out silly defenses on her behalf. 6 Likes |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by Nobody: 8:11am On Dec 10, 2015 |
blazetitov: To charge her with what exactly? |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by porka: 8:12am On Dec 10, 2015 |
bokohalal: Not only that, the returned Abacha looted funds belong to all the 3 tiers of government and not the federal government alone. Did they communicate and get 'approvals' from the state and local governments for the 'loan'. And what are the terms? 6 Likes |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by ShowYourCertificate: 8:13am On Dec 10, 2015 |
blazetitov:Okay let me show you. See the excerpts below (note the bolded) Here are the facts: So you can see from the bolded that anything the ministers does is within the budgetary requirement as approved by the National Assembly. Every agency within the executive has an annual budget which is approved by the National Assembly. I believe NSA isn't an exception. So unless you can prove that the amount spent by NSA for the year in question was above the budgeted amount I'm sorry you have no case here. 1 Like |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by ShowYourCertificate: 8:16am On Dec 10, 2015 |
DecemberIV:Really? They weren't budgeted for? Please can you tell me how much was approved for NSA by the National Assembly in the budget? Is is less than the 322million dollars. |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by Chubhie: 8:16am On Dec 10, 2015 |
blazetitov:As much as I love my Ngo Babe, I must say she failed to follow proper due processes. GEJ leased out a lot of extra presidential powers to her which got her a lil intoxicated. She shouldn't insult sensibilities by making it look she's squeaky clean in all these. But then, when APC brand of accusations comes at you laced with personal vendetta it is in her best personal interest to deny any wrong doing. This nation is doomed already. 1 Like |
Re: Allegations Of “Illegal Diversion” Of Abacha's Loot Baseless – Okonjo-Iweala by GoodGovernance: 8:19am On Dec 10, 2015 |
blazetitov: Wow! So some people are still doubting PMB's qualification at this stage? This is Mischief carried beyond extreme! The earlier people realised that the campaign period is over,the better for them.We(whether we voted for the present FG or not) should now be contributing to how we can move the country forward and recover our stolen treasury.This is no time for any emotional or sentimental attachment. Yes, I agree with you,I think we had since moved on without them. 1 Like |
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