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Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by VISTIN(m): 5:37pm On Dec 20, 2015
kay29000:
People are making all this seem as if the military went to a community and opened fire on a bunch of innocent civilians. Have you guys watched the video? These people had machetes in hand, and were shouting allah akbar, and a top military officer walked into their midst, not carrying for his life, and even shouted out an order to his boys "DON'T SHOOT." He walked in there, and faced one of the shi'ite men, one on more, and pleaded with him to control the mob. He and others begged this people for 10 good minutes...I mean, top military men begging you just to let them pass in peace. Come on!

You may be. Right, but that's not the issue. Where there's an issue, our president should his people and at least reassure some level of commitment.

Keeping quiet could mean he does not care. Even if supports the actions of his boys, that should be within his mind, demonstrating it is like we sitting on a gun powder.
When Chibok girls were kidnapped, Jonathan might be worried within homself but Nigerians didn't see that demonstrated until after weeks. That counted against him

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Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by TheLegal(m): 5:45pm On Dec 20, 2015
Somebody that refused to participate in a debate shouldn't be expected to make any reasonable statement.
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by u3fine(m): 5:50pm On Dec 20, 2015
He will only speak when he Ajala out next. He only responds to critical issues when he is out of the country. So be patient and pray he travel soonest
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by Matty33(m): 6:19pm On Dec 20, 2015
chesterlee:
One week after the deadly carnage in Zaria, Kaduna State, involving the Nigerian Army and members of the Shi’ite Community, President Muhammadu Buhari remains silent. For a President whose preferred method of public communication has been widely described as “body language”, the message telegraphed by his silence is less than eloquent, unsettling and disquieting.
The exact sequence of events leading to the encounter between the Shi’ites and the Army will, hopefully, be unraveled by the judicial commission of inquiry to be established by the government of Kaduna State. Some things are already quite clear however.
Many people were killed in the encounter. Some have described it as a “massacre”. The victims included young children and women. The leader of the Shi’ites, Sheikh El-Zakzaky, has not been seen since then. The army initially said it took him into “protective custody”. At best, this is not a lawful procedure under Nigerian law. Subsequently, the army claimed it handed him over to civil authorities for prosecution for as yet undisclosed crimes. The army is not a prosecutorial authority for civilians. So on what basis are they deciding that he should be prosecuted?
Rather unfortunately, and quite oddly, in a presumed secular state, the Shiite movement, like many islamic and christian religious organisations, appears to have its own long-term history of breaking the law, and of impunity, that had not been called to order by previous administrations, especially by holding processions or taking over and blocking major roads with utmost disregard for other road users.
Yet the reaction of many, including Nigeria’s bilateral and multi-lateral partners has coalesced around the view that the conduct of the military in response was both brutal and disproportionate. From within Nigeria, many people and institutions, including the Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA), as well as the Christian Association of Nigeria have called for an independent investigation.
Even more, Hakeem Baba-Ahmed, a former Permanent Secretary for the Interior and Joint Intelligence in Nigeria’s federal government, himself from Zaria, has regretted the fact that the “military does not appreciate the fact that it handed over to the Shi’ites a victory it will exploit to the detriment of national security”.
Amidst this rising crescendo of condemnation and concern, and whilst considering the fact that President Buhari must be awaiting a report of what transpired leading to the massacre, his studied silence appears quite disturbing. He ordinarily ought not to foreclose the need for showing concern by talking to Nigerians about the ill-fated incident.
And, in line with democratic governance, it behoves the President to constantly engage with the public on matters of national interest. Yet, since the incident, the only response from the Presidency has come from a text message reportedly sent by an official spokesperson of the President, Femi Adesina, to a newspaper in which he described what happened as a “military affair”, whatever that means.
The president’s silence is disconcerting for many reasons. First, the Zaria Massacre is the latest in a long and gruesome list of military operations since 1961 that have ended in civilian bloodbath. It occurred in the same weekend that the President went to Kaduna State, first, for a music festival and, then, to accept an honorary doctorate degree from the Kaduna State University, a curiously dubious conferment from a university that does not itself run any doctorate programme. That the lethal sequence that followed is associated with the presence of the President in the state should surely be of concern to him.
Second, President Buhari is not just anybody. He is a two-time Commander-In-Chief, a retired army General and one of the most respected and decorated officers in the history of the Nigerian Army. As a General, what happened in Zaria must be of interest to him. As Commander-In-Chief, he has command responsibility for what the military did. This is not a mere military affair. It is his affair. By keeping quiet, he reinforces the impression that he explicitly instructed the military operation in Zaria or implicitly condoned its manner and outcomes. If this is not the case, then he should say so.
Third, there is disturbing evidence in his silence that far from learning from the mistakes of his predecessor, President Buhari appears willing to repeat the errors that turned Nigerians against the administration of President Goodluck Jonathan. It bears recalling that President Buhari rode to the Presidency on the crest of public revolt against the way his predecessor showed scant regard for the lives and sufferings of Nigerians in the hands of Boko Haram extremists. To this attitude, President Buhari promised change. He did not promise being mute. Rather than offer change on this occasion, he has chosen to go mute.
Fourth, President Buhari’s answer to allegations of Shi’ite lawlessness cannot be an outlaw army. His silence could encourage open-ended military operations against unarmed civilians. The state can contain citizen lawlessness, but state lawlessness invites anarchy.
Above all, as the only officer under our constitution elected – no less – by Nigerians from every state and the Federal Capital Territory, President Buhari swore to protect Nigeria’s constitution and the values that underpin it, including the obligation to run a humane government, respect human life and guarantee due process. When citizens are killed in encounters with the armed forces, the responsibility of government is engaged. The people who died are Nigerians. A humane government must show that it cares. By remaining silent, the President appears inhumane and encourages the impression that he neither cares about human life nor about his oath of office.
It is already late but there is still time for the President to correct the course of happenings. The President who promised change cannot keep quiet when soldiers under his command leave scores, perhaps indeed, hundreds of killed civilian citizens in their wake. He needs to speak to Nigerians and the world urgently and reassure everyone about his commitment to the values of constitutional government.
The whereabouts of the leader of the Shi’ite community, Ibrahim El-Zakzaky, must be disclosed. He should be released from custody forthwith or charged before a court for crimes known to the law. Contrary to their claim, the Nigerian constitution has no place for the military to hold a citizen in “protective custody.” Any persons, civilian or military, implicated in the incident in Zaria, should be held to account resolutely.
While PREMIUM TIMES acknowledges the right of, as indeed salutes, the Kaduna State government on its initiative to set up a judicial commission of inquiry into the incident which occurred within its state borders, as announced by Governor Nasir El-Rufai, still we need to be aware that the scale of the problem is national, and the army, as one of the parties involved, is a national institution.
Hence President Buhari, as Commander-In-Chief of the Armed Forces needs to get proactive in the national engagement with what transpired and in achieving justice for those unjustly violated and murdered. If he fails to do this urgently and resolutely, his promise of change could begin to ring hollow.

Source: www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/195446-editorial-zaria-massacre-president-buharis-unsettling-disquieting-silence.html
This is a democracy and you are entitled to your opinion. My submission is that what the Shiites did was insulting to our nation, it is one of the indicators of a failing state. If the Army had not done what they did, something more disastrous would have been done to them by another group say a day or two after. Nigs should know that the Army is the only institution that has prevented this nation from collapse and anyone or group of persons that think they can toy with the Army should think twice. The Chief of Army Staff can't be treated like this, totally unacceptable.
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by myola(m): 6:27pm On Dec 20, 2015
magicminister:


Are "top" military men gods?
There were women and misguided children in their midst.
I saw the video. The shiite movement was agressive but not violent.
They blocked a major road which is probably a crime but do they deserve to be massacred for it?
The coas appealed to them to move away for his almight convoy which fell on deaf ears and that is really wrong but does that warrant a death sentence?

You do not kill a mosquito with a hammer.

The coas had the power to order an arrest of every single individual there.
Alternatively, he could have involved the police since they are better at dealing with civil disobedience.

The military carried out a thoughtless action which they would probably never pay for.

Men, women and children lost their lives that day. It could have been anyone. It could be someone you know next time. What is wrong is wrong. Condemn it.

The shiites were wrong for blocking the road but the military committed an atrocity by massacring them.
what d military did that day was purely jungle justice, penalty for blocking road is not death penalty in law court even if they were arrested by police and arraigned. in normal situation military don't have any business in civil public
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by myola(m): 6:31pm On Dec 20, 2015
Akon419:
Bihari is just a dumb, .if there is anyway I could retrieve my vote I gave to this man, I would definitely do. Just old for nothing
you wey be akon419, somebody still 419 you grin
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by kay29000(m): 6:41pm On Dec 20, 2015
VISTIN:


You may be. Right, but that's not the issue. Where there's an issue, our president should his people and at least reassure some level of commitment.

Keeping quiet could mean he does not care. Even if supports the actions of his boys, that should be within his mind, demonstrating it is like we sitting on a gun powder.
When Chibok girls were kidnapped, Jonathan might be worried within homself but Nigerians didn't see that demonstrated until after weeks. That counted against him

Thank you for this mature response.
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by Nobody: 6:58pm On Dec 20, 2015
Matty33:
This is a democracy and you are entitled to your opinion. My submission is that what the Shiites did was insulting to our nation, it is one of the indicators of a failing state. If the Army had not done what they did, something more disastrous would have been done to them by another group say a day or two after. Nigs should know that the Army is the only institution that has prevented this nation from collapse and anyone or group of persons that think they can toy with the Army should think twice. The Chief of Army Staff can't be treated like this, totally unacceptable.
This is a democratic government and therefore such actions should never be met with brute force... The people have rights too... The Army should have found a way to resolve the matter no matter how long it takes... making an enemy out of the people is sad... These are the same people you claim to protect... As for the president being quiet, he's got nothing to say... Without the people there would be no army... It takes a country to have an army so when u don't have people to rule you won't have any army to protect the people... buhari seems to be stuck in his dictatorian ways and so does not feel the hurt of the people... This shouldn't be partisan this is not about APC OR PDP this is about human life... 300 people gunned down for protesting... and the president has kept quiet... wow... We r in trying times... Buhari got the votes of the people... now he has no respect for the same people who put him there... Nigerians never learn.
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by todayguest(m): 7:04pm On Dec 20, 2015
Despite the sensitive nature of the incident in Zaria. The President's 'body language' depicts, (1) he supports the actions of the military. Being, a retired army General. (2) he is confused. (3) he is on the other side of the divide. In fact, he is a Sunni by association.
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by jaybee(f): 7:29pm On Dec 20, 2015
chesterlee:
One week after the deadly carnage in Zaria, Kaduna State, involving the Nigerian Army and members of the Shi’ite Community, President Muhammadu Buhari remains silent. For a President whose preferred method of public communication has been widely described as “body language”, the message telegraphed by his silence is less than eloquent, unsettling and disquieting.
The exact sequence of events leading to the encounter between the Shi’ites and the Army will, hopefully, be unraveled by the judicial commission of inquiry to be established by the government of Kaduna State. Some things are already quite clear however.
Many people were killed in the encounter. Some have described it as a “massacre”. The victims included young children and women. The leader of the Shi’ites, Sheikh El-Zakzaky, has not been seen since then. The army initially said it took him into “protective custody”. At best, this is not a lawful procedure under Nigerian law. Subsequently, the army claimed it handed him over to civil authorities for prosecution for as yet undisclosed crimes. The army is not a prosecutorial authority for civilians. So on what basis are they deciding that he should be prosecuted?
Rather unfortunately, and quite oddly, in a presumed secular state, the Shiite movement, like many islamic and christian religious organisations, appears to have its own long-term history of breaking the law, and of impunity, that had not been called to order by previous administrations, especially by holding processions or taking over and blocking major roads with utmost disregard for other road users.
Yet the reaction of many, including Nigeria’s bilateral and multi-lateral partners has coalesced around the view that the conduct of the military in response was both brutal and disproportionate. From within Nigeria, many people and institutions, including the Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA), as well as the Christian Association of Nigeria have called for an independent investigation.
Even more, Hakeem Baba-Ahmed, a former Permanent Secretary for the Interior and Joint Intelligence in Nigeria’s federal government, himself from Zaria, has regretted the fact that the “military does not appreciate the fact that it handed over to the Shi’ites a victory it will exploit to the detriment of national security”.
Amidst this rising crescendo of condemnation and concern, and whilst considering the fact that President Buhari must be awaiting a report of what transpired leading to the massacre, his studied silence appears quite disturbing. He ordinarily ought not to foreclose the need for showing concern by talking to Nigerians about the ill-fated incident.
And, in line with democratic governance, it behoves the President to constantly engage with the public on matters of national interest. Yet, since the incident, the only response from the Presidency has come from a text message reportedly sent by an official spokesperson of the President, Femi Adesina, to a newspaper in which he described what happened as a “military affair”, whatever that means.
The president’s silence is disconcerting for many reasons. First, the Zaria Massacre is the latest in a long and gruesome list of military operations since 1961 that have ended in civilian bloodbath. It occurred in the same weekend that the President went to Kaduna State, first, for a music festival and, then, to accept an honorary doctorate degree from the Kaduna State University, a curiously dubious conferment from a university that does not itself run any doctorate programme. That the lethal sequence that followed is associated with the presence of the President in the state should surely be of concern to him.
Second, President Buhari is not just anybody. He is a two-time Commander-In-Chief, a retired army General and one of the most respected and decorated officers in the history of the Nigerian Army. As a General, what happened in Zaria must be of interest to him. As Commander-In-Chief, he has command responsibility for what the military did. This is not a mere military affair. It is his affair. By keeping quiet, he reinforces the impression that he explicitly instructed the military operation in Zaria or implicitly condoned its manner and outcomes. If this is not the case, then he should say so.
Third, there is disturbing evidence in his silence that far from learning from the mistakes of his predecessor, President Buhari appears willing to repeat the errors that turned Nigerians against the administration of President Goodluck Jonathan. It bears recalling that President Buhari rode to the Presidency on the crest of public revolt against the way his predecessor showed scant regard for the lives and sufferings of Nigerians in the hands of Boko Haram extremists. To this attitude, President Buhari promised change. He did not promise being mute. Rather than offer change on this occasion, he has chosen to go mute.
Fourth, President Buhari’s answer to allegations of Shi’ite lawlessness cannot be an outlaw army. His silence could encourage open-ended military operations against unarmed civilians. The state can contain citizen lawlessness, but state lawlessness invites anarchy.
Above all, as the only officer under our constitution elected – no less – by Nigerians from every state and the Federal Capital Territory, President Buhari swore to protect Nigeria’s constitution and the values that underpin it, including the obligation to run a humane government, respect human life and guarantee due process. When citizens are killed in encounters with the armed forces, the responsibility of government is engaged. The people who died are Nigerians. A humane government must show that it cares. By remaining silent, the President appears inhumane and encourages the impression that he neither cares about human life nor about his oath of office.
It is already late but there is still time for the President to correct the course of happenings. The President who promised change cannot keep quiet when soldiers under his command leave scores, perhaps indeed, hundreds of killed civilian citizens in their wake. He needs to speak to Nigerians and the world urgently and reassure everyone about his commitment to the values of constitutional government.
The whereabouts of the leader of the Shi’ite community, Ibrahim El-Zakzaky, must be disclosed. He should be released from custody forthwith or charged before a court for crimes known to the law. Contrary to their claim, the Nigerian constitution has no place for the military to hold a citizen in “protective custody.” Any persons, civilian or military, implicated in the incident in Zaria, should be held to account resolutely.
While PREMIUM TIMES acknowledges the right of, as indeed salutes, the Kaduna State government on its initiative to set up a judicial commission of inquiry into the incident which occurred within its state borders, as announced by Governor Nasir El-Rufai, still we need to be aware that the scale of the problem is national, and the army, as one of the parties involved, is a national institution.
Hence President Buhari, as Commander-In-Chief of the Armed Forces needs to get proactive in the national engagement with what transpired and in achieving justice for those unjustly violated and murdered. If he fails to do this urgently and resolutely, his promise of change could begin to ring hollow.

Source: www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/195446-editorial-zaria-massacre-president-buharis-unsettling-disquieting-silence.html


PMB has not only the right, but the obligation to allow the institutions of state to perform their constitutional duties unhindered. No one contends with state might without paying for it. You can ask Biafra soldiers, boko haram and others.

If you want to keep your life don't confront the state. You may confront the President, COAS, Minister, governor, or other state officials, but not the state itself as the security of the state is far above any individual considerations. No sovereign nation state will sit down and allow miscreants in whatever guise molest it and go free, either externally or internally.
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by ndcide(m): 7:43pm On Dec 20, 2015
ayindejimmy:

Any statement the presidnt make now wil be used against him by haters in d court of Public Opinion.
Its better he remain silent on this one bicos it's double egded

Humm, So this is what we should protect the president of Nigeria from.

Public opinion?

We should save buhari from public opinions? Hence, he shouldn't address burning national issues?

Meen, this is too much.
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by jaybee(f): 7:47pm On Dec 20, 2015
krispycash:

This is a democratic government and therefore such actions should never be met with brute force... The people have rights too... The Army should have found a way to resolve the matter no matter how long it takes... making an enemy out of the people is sad... These are the same people you claim to protect... As for the president being quiet, he's got nothing to say... Without the people there would be no army... It takes a country to have an army so when u don't have people to rule you won't have any army to protect the people... buhari seems to be stuck in his dictatorian ways and so does not feel the hurt of the people... This shouldn't be partisan this is not about APC OR PDP this is about human life... 300 people gunned down for protesting... and the president has kept quiet... wow... We r in trying times... Buhari got the votes of the people... now he has no respect for the same people who put him there... Nigerians never learn.

You people are getting this issue of democracy completely upside down.

1. There must be a state before there can be anything like democracy.

2. Democracy is is characterized by the rule of law, as opposed to the blank cheque for lawlessness you are trying to present here.

3. Government must not only have the teeth, it must be capable of biting when and where it is necessary. Don't be carried away by fantastic democracy rhetorics, for democracy to endure, any entity that stands on the way of the state must, as a matter of necessity, be dealt with. Anything other than that is a step towards a failed state.
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by obidaddy: 8:14pm On Dec 20, 2015
You zombies sound like a soldier or red neck officer is a god or super star to be reverred and feared. Does matchete measures up to automatic rifles? After killing fellow Nigerians and cleared the road for the Coas to pass through, why proceed to kill more innocent shites and completely demolish their head quarters and shrines?
This reign of lawlessness by the army to "bloody civilians" and hapless poor nigerians must stop. This things breeds hatred and contempt for the army and triggers resistance and vengeance. This was the same aapproach, lawlessness and impunity that turned mild boko haram to wild vampires.

kay29000:
People are making all this seem as if the military went to a community and opened fire on a bunch of innocent civilians. Have you guys watched the video? These people had machetes in hand, and were shouting allah akbar, and a top military officer walked into their midst, not carrying for his life, and even shouted out an order to his boys "DON'T SHOOT!!!" He walked in there, and faced one of the shi'ite men, one on more, and pleaded with him to control the mob. He and others begged this people for 10 good minutes...I mean, top military men begging you just to let them pass in peace. Come on!

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Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by Nobody: 8:39pm On Dec 20, 2015
olapluto:
The relevant authorities have addressed the issue. The Kaduna state governor gave a state broadcast. Thats enough. There's nothing Buhari wants to say that the Kaduna state governor has not said.

No it is NOT enough!! When has he addressed the nation about anything? Fuel scarcity, Boko haram, economic decline, foreign exchange restrictions, the list goes on.

Nigerian, not Kaduna citizens were killed by the Nigerian, not kaduna army. Why should the governor be the one addressing the nation?!

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Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by MichaelChaplain: 8:56pm On Dec 20, 2015
kay29000:


Thank you o! Al least someone with some sense. I watched the video were the top military men went into their midst to beg them to just let them pass, yet they were adamant, shouting allah akbar, and raising up machetes.
please how can I get the video
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by egobetatoday: 9:13pm On Dec 20, 2015
omoakin111:
What's his biz with the massacred shiite and their family, afterall his family is not among the dead.

Meanwhile he has this selfie yesterday with his own kids to show his mood and reaction to the massacre. tongue

I'm wondering why Zahra likes to be in the forefront of everything. Zahra abeg leave road make we fit see baba jor
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by egobetatoday: 9:16pm On Dec 20, 2015
Akon419:
Bihari is just a dumb, .if there is anyway I could retrieve my vote I gave to this man, I would definitely do. Just old for nothing

eyahh...sorry Sir. it enough that you've agreeed that you've been scammed. pelle
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by Matty33(m): 9:16pm On Dec 20, 2015
krispycash:

This is a democratic government and therefore such actions should never be met with brute force... The people have rights too... The Army should have found a way to resolve the matter no matter how long it takes... making an enemy out of the people is sad... These are the same people you claim to protect... As for the president being quiet, he's got nothing to say... Without the people there would be no army... It takes a country to have an army so when u don't have people to rule you won't have any army to protect the people... buhari seems to be stuck in his dictatorian ways and so does not feel the hurt of the people... This shouldn't be partisan this is not about APC OR PDP this is about human life... 300 people gunned down for protesting... and the president has kept quiet... wow... We r in trying times... Buhari got the votes of the people... now he has no respect for the same people who put him there... Nigerians never learn.
My bros, the force the Army used was proportional to the threat. If only u know how many soldiers the Army have lost to boko haram u will understand why they had to react that way. It was humiliating for that group to harass the Army chief and prevent him from using the road that belongs to the Fed Govt. I know the Shiites wouldn't try it again. For the President's silence, I don't have anything to say, I know he will make a pronouncement soon.

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Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by BraniacX(m): 9:40pm On Dec 20, 2015
brings to mind that nursery rhime good, better, best good, better, best I will never rest........................... and my better best
now extrapolate to our country's situation since June 2015 undecided bad, worse, worst
bad, worse, worst
bubu would never care, until our bad is worse, and our worse worst............................
bad, worse, wors........................

and I wish I could pretend am joking undecided
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by BraniacX(m): 9:40pm On Dec 20, 2015
brings to mind that nursery rhime good, better, best good, better, best I will never rest........................... and my better best
now extrapolate to our country's situation since June 2015 undecided bad, worse, worst
bad, worse, worst
bubu would never care, until our bad is worse, and our worse worst............................
bad, worse, wors........................

and I wish I could pretend am joking undecided
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by kay29000(m): 9:41pm On Dec 20, 2015
MichaelChaplain:
please how can I get the video

I streamed/watched it on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffuFXYEYlp4
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by kay29000(m): 9:44pm On Dec 20, 2015
Matty33:
My bros, the force the Army used was proportional to the threat. If only u know how many soldiers the Army have lost to boko haram u will understand why they had to react that way. It was humiliating for that group to harass the Army chief and prevent him from using the road that belongs to the Fed Govt. I know the Shiites wouldn't try it again. For the President's silence, I don't have anything to say, I know he will make a pronouncement soon.

GBAM!!!
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by Laid2001: 9:45pm On Dec 20, 2015
Clueless is GEJ killing Three of ZakyZaky's children without blinking an eye!

Beehshorp:


I am tired of all dese dey brought it upon demselves shit.. They blocked the road quite alryt u begged em dey refused and u applied minimum force and massacred em.. Congrats
What prompted the burning of zakzakky's haus and the midnight attacks?
The sunni's dat are killing and kidnapping soldiers av u applied such minimum force on dem?




Back to the topic.. I implore all dose dat called GEJ clueless to av a rethink and tell me what clueless really means now
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by steve440: 9:49pm On Dec 20, 2015
kay29000:
People are making all this seem as if the military went to a community and opened fire on a bunch of innocent civilians. Have you guys watched the video? These people had machetes in hand, and were shouting allah akbar, and a top military officer walked into their midst, not carrying for his life, and even shouted out an order to his boys "DON'T SHOOT!!!" He walked in there, and faced one of the shi'ite men, one on more, and pleaded with him to control the mob. He and others begged this people for 10 good minutes...I mean, top military men begging you just to let them pass in peace. Come on!
bro,pls oooo, don't be offended if I ask whether u really pondered over the incident before commenting. are u truly saying that all those who died in the ugly shooting deserved their death ? Oh,remember that it was human blood ,not animal blood.
Maybe someone thinks we are talking about d blood of goats and cows
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by vislabraye(m): 9:50pm On Dec 20, 2015
kay29000:
People are making all this seem as if the military went to a community and opened fire on a bunch of innocent civilians. Have you guys watched the video? These people had machetes in hand, and were shouting allah akbar, and a top military officer walked into their midst, not caring for his life, and even shouted out an order to his boys "DON'T SHOOT!!!" He walked in there, and faced one of the shi'ite men, one on more, and pleaded with him to control the mob. He and others begged this people for 10 good minutes...I mean, top military men begging you just to let them pass in peace. Come on!

As a result of disobedience, the military should raid and burn down their houses undecided. Well, na dem dem.

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Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by lyricalz: 11:00pm On Dec 20, 2015
kay29000:
People are making all this seem as if the military went to a community and opened fire on a bunch of innocent civilians. Have you guys watched the video? These people had machetes in hand, and were shouting allah akbar, and a top military officer walked into their midst, not caring for his life, and even shouted out an order to his boys "DON'T SHOOT!!!" He walked in there, and faced one of the shi'ite men, one on more, and pleaded with him to control the mob. He and others begged this people for 10 good minutes...I mean, top military men begging you just to let them pass in peace. Come on!


My friend, machetes are not guns, a professional millitary will always know wat 2do in such scenario. Only d dumb ones will start shootin, believe me when dey open fire in the air, I swear there will b a way 2 pass, only d stubborn ones will b arrested.
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by olyivy(f): 11:07pm On Dec 20, 2015
Anyone who supports or justifies this massacre in any form or manner due to political affiliation is indirectly praying he/she accepts being caught in the same kind of death those Shiites faced. You always get what you pray for. Remember most people killed in that massacre were probably never in the road block as the army came back hours later to "DEAL" with them for insulting their COAS.

May God forgive all of una!

How come Nigerians have lost all their sense of reasoning and humanity due to GEJ/Buhari politics?!!!

Tufiakwa!!!

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Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by ubamfrank: 11:21pm On Dec 20, 2015
We all hv watched the video, the problem now is who ordered military to go to shites headquarter to invade there. The HQ is the highway that was block? And why will military be there by 11pm, are they looking for shakau there.

uote author=kay29000 post=41176621]People are making all this seem as if the military went to a community and opened fire on a bunch of innocent civilians. Have you guys watched the video? These people had machetes in hand, and were shouting allah akbar, and a top military officer walked into their midst, not caring for his life, and even shouted out an order to his boys "DON'T SHOOT!!!" He walked in there, and faced one of the shi'ite men, one on more, and pleaded with him to control the mob. He and others begged this people for 10 good minutes...I mean, top military men begging you just to let them pass in peace. Come on![/quote]
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by DelGardo: 11:40pm On Dec 20, 2015
saxywale:

You are sick. The murder of over 100 people is trivial. No wonder the world treats Nigerians and its citizens as trash that don't deserve to live among civilized people of other nations.
Was this not one of the things GEJ was accused off, the disappearance of the chibok girls and the government's deafening silence.

Nothing can justify the killing of unarmed civies. I support a judicial review to identify the culprits and have them face justice.

Having said that I wish to point out that this issue is not similar to the Chibok reaction in the manner you painted it.

When Chibok girls were kidnapped the government denied the incident for over 3 weeks. Their response was horrid because the case was an abduction and quick response was not supposed to be a matter of choice. It was imperative!
On the Zaria incident, the presidency can afford to confirm the true state of things and evaluate the sort of federal response required before making an official statement. But they have not denied that it happened. That's another improvement over Chibok response.

Your guy - Goodluck - was clueless simples. Don't drag other people down with him pls.
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by ayindejimmy(m): 11:52pm On Dec 20, 2015
ndcide:


Humm, So this is what we should protect the president of Nigeria from.

Public opinion?

We should save buhari from public opinions? Hence, he shouldn't address burning national issues?

Meen, this is too much.
public opinion is usualy laced wit religious, tribal nd political sentiments most times devoid of facts nd realities.
The fuel scarcity nd condition of d economy- dats burnin National issueses.
Some religious fanatics biting more than they can chew- dat's f ucked up.
Cos they'r wrong nd d army also erred. So who do u want d presidnt to blame?
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by Nobody: 1:03am On Dec 21, 2015
MichaelChaplain:
please how can I get the video
There are tons of videos on YouTube. I also recently watched the one in which the army invaded the shia homes killing women, children and innocent men not involved in the road blockade. That particular video has over 35k views on YouTube already, and that is the one been beamed all over the world. I just don't understand why the soldiers returned to carry out those killing/murders.
anyway, na demdem. Northerners vs Northerners.
Re: Zaria Massacre: President Buhari’s Unsettling, Disquieting Silence by Nobody: 1:07am On Dec 21, 2015
Matty33:
I know the Shiites wouldn't try it again.
The same thing was said when Mohammed Yusuf of boko haram was killed.

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