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| Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by edogho(m): 11:05am On Dec 26, 2015 |
The True Definition For those that have been defending their pastors opinion on the issue of tithing over the redemptive sacrifice of Christ after reading my comment. I want to clarify some things before asking some very interesting question. Do you know that the purpose of tithe is not for God to bless you or for supporting God's work but rather, it's an exercise of the law for showing that you "REGARD AND FEAR THE LORD YOUR GOD" In Deut 14:23, the Bible clearly says EAT your tithe before the Lord SO THAT YOU CAN FEAR HIM. In Deut 14:26 it repeated it again saying if you can't carry the cassava and cocoyam, convert it to money and use it to eat rice, drink wine and 'ogogoro' and you can even use it to carry 'ashewo' if your soul lust after one, at that point, you are covered because it's tithing. In Deut 14: 27 & 29 it clearly says when your belly is full, you should remember the Levites (not a pastor because they have no inheritance among you) also the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow because they are really the ones in need. Here are my questions and I need clear answers. 1. The Lord clearly says "Eat before Me so that you can fear Me" why are you not eating your tithe? That's direct disobedience! Isn't that telling God directly that "I DON'T REGARD OR FEAR YOU?" 2. Your excuse is that you cannot carry yam abi? fine, there is room to convert it to money but according to Lev 27:31 "If you want to buy back the LORD's tenth of the grain or fruit, you must pay its value, plus 20 percent." so that's now 30%. The interesting thing is that you must still eat everything before the Lord SO THAT YOU CAN FEAR HIM. That's 30%, so if you are bringing money, you should be presenting 30% that you must blow once on whatever your soul desire, Ogogoro included. The question is "Have you been eating that 30% at once as the Lord instructed in the Bible?" If you haven't been doing that, do you know you've been telling God "I DON'T REGARD OR FEAR YOU"? 3. There are four set of people entitled to the leftover of your tithe eating exercise, The Levites, Stranger, Widow and Fatherless. Your pastor is obviously not a levite, even Jesus is not one. So if your pastor is not a helpless stranger, widow/widower, or orphan, why is he the only one screaming the songs of tithe in cash. Why is your pastor the one raining fake curses and suspended prayers on the topic of tithe when he's not even entitled to it by any or all definition? 4. Lastly I will like to know, if your pastor had told you that tithing is just for you to show that you FEAR THE LORD and that no blessing is attached to it, will you be paying it? Believe me, tithing is not an avenue to blessings, it is illegal in the body of Christ and any pastor that comes to preach Jesus to you and still ask you for tithe is a con-artist from the pit of hell, there are no better words to describe such a person. The fact that tithing is popular does not make it right. Anyways, I am expecting your answers but before you do, remember this. If you want to give your money to God, do it right, give it to the stranger (I'm obviously a stranger lols) fatherless and the widow, I can guarantee you that God will receive it and credit your earthly and heavenly account with interest. By: Ignition Abayomi Michael Afelumo 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by emorse(m): 11:18am On Dec 26, 2015 |
Certain people run from threads like this. 1 Like |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by dorox(m): 11:24am On Dec 26, 2015 |
There is a lot of blessing you get from eating your tithe, if you give it to another person your blessing is also transferred to that person. 1 Like |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by ewuoso2002(m): 3:41pm On Apr 15, 2016 |
They read of it in their bible but seems not to care. All i said is true and u wont see them comment here, but d ogogoro and ashewo area me no agree on dt. 1 Like |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Joagbaje(m): 4:03pm On Apr 15, 2016 |
There are 2 kinds of tithes . The annual tithes is taken to the house of God . It is given through the Levites Nehemiah 10:38 (KJV) And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house. The second one is the one used as feast every 3 years |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by jayriginal: 7:56pm On Apr 15, 2016 |
Joagbaje: So which Levite has been giving you your tithes? |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Joagbaje(m): 8:54pm On Apr 15, 2016 |
jayriginal: The Levites were ministers in the sanctuary , and in every generation there will always be ministers of God. 1 Like |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Ubenedictus(m): 10:06pm On Apr 15, 2016 |
Joagbaje:the levite are actually d sons of levi, it is a tribe in isreal. 2 Likes |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Joagbaje(m): 11:04pm On Apr 15, 2016 |
Ubenedictus: I agree , but the tribe were chosen as ministers of the sanctuary. It's the office we are talking about ,not the tribe |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Jozzy4: 11:32pm On Apr 15, 2016 |
Joagbaje: the bible speaks about the Tribe ! mr man 3 Likes |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by openmine(m): 3:03am On Apr 16, 2016 |
Joagbaje:its very wrong to equate or relate the sons of levi to ministers or pastors of today....its sheer manipulation and outright distortion of the gospel....please as Christians,we must endeavor to teach the word of God without attaching wat is NOT written in the bible.....There is NO part in the bible where pastors or apostles became levites of our time....Such insinuations are totally erroneous and a mockery of the word of God that was very explicit on the subject of tithes to the levites  5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by jayriginal: 3:43am On Apr 16, 2016 |
Joagbaje:You're a Bayelsa man not a Levite. 3 Likes |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by openmine(m): 1:34pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Peritus(m): 2:59pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
I desire that you might be filled with the knowledge of His will, in wisdom and spiritual understanding. My issue is not on tithing but eating and doing whatever you soul lusteth for. You forgot that we are no longer practicing old testament. Christ CHANGED the old mode of worship and ways of reverencing God. Now we worship in truth and in Spirit (Jn 4:23). If you walk in the Spirit, you shall not obey the works of flesh and what it lusts for (Gal 5:16). Gluttony and drunkenness are part of works of flesh. |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Joagbaje(m): 12:33am On Apr 17, 2016 |
Jozzy4: Was Melchizedek a Levite Mr man? |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Joagbaje(m): 12:39am On Apr 17, 2016 |
openmine: 1 Corinthians 9:13-14 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? . . .14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by openmine(m): 6:04am On Apr 17, 2016 |
Joagbaje:pls how does Dis verse in any way equate or refer ministers of d gospel to d levites....? d verse 13 refers 2 d priest and levites of d old covenant... r u sir still under d old covenant? Verse 14,inasmuch as d Lord ordained dose who preach d gospel to leave off it...in oda words b supported 4 d work dey carry out,how does Dis equate pastors or ministers wit d levites....? I repeat sir,wit all due respect,we sud stop teaching or preaching wat God has not said....its completely erroneous... I wud not want 2 use inappropriate words but I believe u get d message....dat verse never equated or referred 2 pastors or ministers of d gospel as d levites of our time...its completely ridiculous 2 say so....smh 2 Likes |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Jozzy4: 6:23am On Apr 17, 2016 |
Joagbaje:are you Melchizedek ? 4 Likes |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Joagbaje(m): 7:44am On Apr 17, 2016 |
openmine: It's a simple parallel. The verse made it clear that as the Levites get welfare from tithes and offerings same goes for ministers. |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Joagbaje(m): 7:54am On Apr 17, 2016 |
Jozzy4: I am not . So what' has it got to do with it |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by openmine(m): 8:43am On Apr 17, 2016 |
Joagbaje: Sir pls stop misquoting and taking those verses out of context....its very explicit from the verses that just as "the levites received wat was from the temple,ministers fed from their teachings...." In other words, ministers are to be supported as they teach the gospel....which is totally different from wat the levites obtained....cos they received food from the tithes of farm produce and d cattle herd which is contained in the law of moses in accordance with the old covenant ....i ask again...are you sir still under the old covenant..or under a levitical priesthood? You compare ministers or refer to them as levites forgetting that levites operated from an annulled and invalid covenant which contains the laws of moses.....dere is no reason whatsoever for such comparison.....its like comparing the law of moses to the law of grace...immpossicant  inasmuch as u try in vain to make a parallel combo,u sud know both are not operating from the same covenant....which renders such comparison invalid and to an extent manipulative....Pls try again! 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by openmine(m): 9:07am On Apr 17, 2016 |
When i hear ministers of the gospel compare or refer to them selves as levites,i cringe... All because u want to be the one to receive tithes forgetting that you are operating from an advanced and equipped covenant which is based on grace and love.....Its very sad when pastors or ministers who sud be passing d undiluted gospel of the word wud bend and manipulate the gospel just to satisfy themselves.... Thank God,the word of God was not given ONLY to pastors....imagine the enslavement that wud have engulfed the body of christ..God forbid! Dear Christians pls endeavor to Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth......2 Timothy 2:15 Let no one deceive or manipulate you....we are no longer under the covenant of old....but we are under a perfect and beautiful covenant where Christ is the high priest and blesses those who believe in him....Christ came to preach love not burden or fear.... Give cheerfully and generously to a cause or support for the assembly you attend ....give to people who have no means of livelihood... ....assist a person you never knew... Above All show love to ALL men cos God is love!! Happy sunday!! 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by dorox(m): 9:27am On Apr 17, 2016 |
jayriginal: This is what happens when you ask a man to understand the same thing that his livelihood depends on him not understanding. It is a difficult thing to ask of any man. 4 Likes |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Annunaki(m): 12:10pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
dorox: Lovely quote, very Succint.  |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by dorox(m): 12:19pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
Annunaki: Thank you. That is why I only argue tithing with a tithe payer, doing so with a tithe collector is just an exercise in futility. 2 Likes |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Jozzy4: 12:24pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
Joagbaje:then are you a fake Melchizedek ? Melchizedek collect spoils of war , u collect cash Melchizedek collect spoils of war from Abraham once , NOT EVERY WEEK ! even the blind can see the fraud here . 3 Likes |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by openmine(m): 12:53pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
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| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Joagbaje(m): 5:02pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
openmine: And where does the money come from?. . .i ask again...are you sir still under the old covenant..or under a levitical priesthood? Tithing is one of God kingdom principles . It existed before the law. And never nullified . You compare ministers or refer to them as levites forgetting that levites operated from an annulled and invalid covenant which contains the laws of moses.....dere is no reason whatsoever for such comparison.....its like comparing the law of moses to the law of grace...immpossicant Levitical priesthood was only an order for a period. Melchizedek order existed before the law . Jesus is our high priest not in Levitical order but Melchizedek order. Which is everlasting. |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Joagbaje(m): 5:16pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
Jozzy4: Stop trying to get rude and personal . I'm a tither not a tithe collector . We are discussing scriptures . And if you have no scriptural point to prove . There may be no reason talking with you. |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by EMILO2STAY(m): 5:16pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
Joagbaje:you are always found defending the tithe doctrine on every thread exposing the tithe doctrine as a fraud and you claim to be a pastor. Joagbaje repent!!! True and genuin repentance is what you need. what kind of pastor preaches tithe to his congregation if he is not a thief, you are no different from our thieving poiliticians and yahoo boys. You claim to be led by the spirit of God yet You are a 419 theif. Joagbaje the wages of sin is death repent!!!. 1 Like |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by Joagbaje(m): 5:26pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
EMILO2STAY: If you have any point Prove your point from scripture and if there's none . Just read. No need to hurl insult in the name of Jesus . 2 Timothy 2:24 (KJV Strong's) 24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, |
| Re: Eat Your Tithe Before The Lord by openmine(m): 6:20pm On Apr 17, 2016 |
Joagbaje:i dont understand ur question....r u implying that money was never in existence during the levitical period? Joagbaje: U r totally wrong sir....tithing was never a God's kingdom principle....principles are based on laid down laws....and i believe u have biblical scriptures to prove where dose laws were stated right?  ...where was it stated pre-law that the people sud tithe(and please don't bring up Abraham jingle into this cos he never tithed)....sorry sir.....there is no such scripture because you erroneously or deceptively inserted it there.... U said it existed before the law......and i ask in astonishment,are you sir implying that any thing or act or law that existed before the law was given was NOT nullified? Are you implying that circumcision was not nullified since it was pre-law? If you said tithe was pre-law,why do u justify tithes collection using the supposed nullified laws of moses to buttress ur reasons for tithing i.e malachi 3:10,numbers 18:10? Finally where in the new covenant did paul say that tithe was a God's kingdom principle or are u d one that constructed and inserted it there? please i need ur honest answers to these questions..... Joagbaje:It was more than just an order....it was contained in the old covenant....which has been nullified.....we all know jesus is the high priest based on better promises and an oath from God.....the comparison of the priesthood of jesus and that of Melchizedek is based on the fact that "their priesthood abides continually".. ...but the priesthood of jesus christ is far better than that of other priests before now including that of Melchizedek because its founded on better promises,word of an oath from God and an intercession for all who believe...! (reference:Hebrews 7:15-28) So how does the Melchizedek order or levitical order make you a levite sir? Please sir try again! |
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