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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by horlapelumi(m): 4:03pm On Dec 29, 2015
Overall or just a judge?

[quote author=Aminat508 post=41454171][/quote]
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Fynestboi: 4:04pm On Dec 29, 2015
Awesome11.
Presentation - 3
Logic of argument - 3.5
Strength of facts - 4
Persuasiveness - 3.5
Demonstration of knowledge
And understanding of the subject - 3.5

Total = 17.5 marks.

Binary007

Presentation - 3
Logic of argument - 3
Strength of facts - 3
Persuasiveness - 3
Demonstration of knowledge
And understanding of the subject - 3

Total = 15 marks

TOTAL: 32.5

IamDejman

Presentation - 3.5
Logic of argument - 4
Strength of facts - 4
Persuasiveness - 4
Demonstration of knowledge
And understanding of the subject - 4

Total = 19.5 marks.

Eduntee

Presentation - 3
Logic of argument - 4
Strength of facts - 4
Persuasiveness - 3.5
Demonstration of knowledge
And understanding of the subject - 3.5

Total = 18marks.

TOTAL: 37.5


TopeQs

Presentation - 3
Logic of argument - 3.5
Strength of facts - 3.5
Persuasiveness - 3
Demonstration of knowledge
And understanding of the subject - 3

Total = 16 marks.





Comment.

The debaters still haven't mastered the art of referencing, almost all the references used are online, those who quoted the Nigerian constitution, should reference/mention the section they quoted from, E.G. The 1999 Constitution Of The Federal Republic Of Nigeria (as amended) Section 4, Subsection 2a and b.

Also, those who quoted books should have added the year and the date the book was publish as well as the publisher of the book. This gives credence to the author and publisher of the book. E.G. Appadorai. A (1975), The Substance Of Politics, Oxford University Press, Page 15. This include the Oxford Advance learners Dictionary, journals and other literary works.

Debaters did not paragraph their essays accordingly, essay writing follow a particular format, that is: introduction of the essay ( what you're writing) body of the essay ( your points) and conclusion ( the summing up and rounding up of your points) note that every point made is suppose to begin with a new paragraph, this will help the reader or marker articulate your points better and score you accordingly.

The use of punctuation marks was widely misuse by many of the debaters, as long you quote a person or any literary work, the work and the person you quoted is suppose to be in quotation mark, that is " ".

Well done to the debaters. You've made a believer of me.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by horlapelumi(m): 4:04pm On Dec 29, 2015
[quote author=Aminat508 post=41454171][/quote]

overall or just one of the judges?
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Fynestboi: 4:04pm On Dec 29, 2015
horlapelumi:
Overall or just a judge?



Relax...
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Timidelaw(m): 4:06pm On Dec 29, 2015
Nice one sir. You are bent to proof this. I'll simply give you same assignment to get the difference between rights and privileges as independent words. And by that i guess you'll be cleared.

The words are so synonymous that only the fact that one is 'inherent' and the other is conferred on or can be withdrawn is the difference. They are even used interchangeably, but the explanation given above clears the difference.

Search engine giants would only leave it at the surface for you. But the difference would be seen with better research. Too bad Education is one of those privilege rights so to say.
awesome11:


The embolded says it all. It remains a right, whatever disguise it shields itself!.

Search engine giants, Wikipedia defines Rights as "legal, social, ethical, or fundamental normative rules about what is allowed of people or owed to people, according to some legal system, social convention or ethical theory"
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Fynestboi: 4:08pm On Dec 29, 2015
Grand Total



LASU 71.5
FUTA 61.5
FUTMINNA 31.




Congratulations to all team, as you all qualifies...








The two absent team. Disqualified.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Aminat508(f): 4:09pm On Dec 29, 2015
Fynestboi:
Grand Total


[size=20pt]
LASU 71.5
FUTA 61.5
FUTMINNA 31.[/size]





Congratulations to all team, as you all qualifies...








The two absent team. Disqualified.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by horlapelumi(m): 4:09pm On Dec 29, 2015
Fynestboi:
Grand Total



LASU 68.5
FUTA 60.5
FUTMINNA 31.




Congratulations to all team, as you all qualifies...








The two absent team. Disqualified.

CONGRATULATIONS ALL
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Timidelaw(m): 4:14pm On Dec 29, 2015
horlapelumi:


Congratulations to the winners. Special thumbs up to IamDejman and Eduntee. Teamlasu we rep

CONGRATULATIONS ALL
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by IamDejman(m): 4:18pm On Dec 29, 2015
[quote author=Timidelaw post=41454526][/quote]
Thanks this is one for the team

Kudos to all debaters. I enjoyed every essay

Great work by the Judges and kudos to the coordinators
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by awesome11(m): 4:24pm On Dec 29, 2015
Timidelaw:
Nice one sir. You are bent to proof this. I'll simply give you same assignment to get the difference between rights and privileges as independent words. And by that i guess you'll be cleared.

The words are so synonymous that only the fact that one is 'inherent' and the other is conferred on or can be withdrawn is the difference. They are even used interchangeably, but the explanation given above clears the difference.

Search engine giants would only leave it at the surface for you. But the difference would be seen with better research. Too bad Education is one of those privilege rights so to say.

I've gone through your previous posts and it's now understandable why you have such a rigid stance on the argument. However, timidelaw, are you aware we've been conferred with the right to obtain justice? At least, that is one of the human rights you should be familiar with. Do you mean the cost of obtaining justice is free?

My point remains "Not every right is free" and "Education is a right and not a privilege" should not be erroneously interpreted as "Free education is a right, and not a privilege"!!!

What saith thou?
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by awesome11(m): 4:32pm On Dec 29, 2015
IamDejman:
To greet is a social manner every human is obliged do, greetings to the moderators, distinguished adjudicators, amiable Nairalanders and to my co-debaters. I (Dejman) am standing to oppose the motion “Education is a right and not a privilege”.

Education is indeed a privilege with a great proportion of the world having little or no access to it; it is the privileged few that are granted it. Only persons suffering from scotoma would believe that education is a right.
Oxford advanced Learners’ Dictionary defined Right as ‘A moral or legal entitlement to have or do something; whereas Black’s Law Dictionary has defined privilege as ‘A particular and peculiar benefit or advantage enjoyed by a person, company, or class, beyond the common advantages of other citizens.’

We shall take our own dear country, Nigeria as a case study. In Nigeria, there Rights are contained in the Chapter Two and Chapter Four of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (as amended). The rights under the Chapter Two are named ‘Fundamental objectives and Directives Principles of State policy’, while the rights in Chapter Four are named ‘Fundamental Human Rights’.

Educational right is provided in Section 18 and subsection (3) of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (as amended) says ‘Government shall as and when practicable provide (a) free, compulsory and universal primary education ; (b) free secondary education ; (c) free university education ; and (d) free adult literacy programme.

The actual truth is the reason why the educational right is not under the Fundamental Human Right in Chapter Four is because education is a privilege. Section 6 (6) of the 1999 CFRN (as amended) dictates that no court of law shall determine any matter as regard the chapter 2 of the constitution. Chapter 2 therefore cannot be enforced and it is non justiceable. In clear words, rights in the chapter 2 of the constitution are not up for discussion and you cannot go to court to enforce why you have no free education.

[b]In a state where there’s no free education enforced, then we can really save ourselves some self delusion and stop being a pseudo intellectual being by saying education is our right. How can we tell the parent whose minimum wage is under N18, 000 to pay almost N105,000 charges for fresh students of LAUTECH and UNIOSUN which is not less than N100,000 total charges for the fresher’s. Definitely, such parent will have to go extra mile to pay
the money so as not to jeopardize the admission of the child. It is a wide broadcast when the management of Obafemi Awolowo University just woke one day and announced the astronomical increment of the fresh students from N40,000 including the acceptance fee to the tune of N90,000. So my brother, where is the right to education? UNIBEN and UNILAG are also there with their exorbitant charges. If not recently reduced, no less-privilege will afford N250, 000 LASU fee. It is no longer news that Oronsaye’s recommendation to the Federal government is that tuition fees be re-introduced in Federal universities, Polytechnics, and colleges of education. He recommended that each student should be made to pay between N450, 000 and N550, 000 naira per session.[/b]

Looking at the Child Rights Act, this has been passed to law since 2003 and was domesticated in many States of the Federation. Nigeria as a country has been unable to deal with several issues hindering the protection of right of the children, in which right to education fall into. “The fault” in the Child Right Act as observed by Barrister Lukman Ogunsetan was that; assuming a parent is sent to prison for violating the child Right Act, which does not enforce a child Right but merely punishes the parent. The child remain uneducated, the “right” remain unenforced.

Have you ever wondered why this saying “If you think Education is cheap then go try Ignorance, it is simply because Education is a privilege, an opportunity many wish they had and which in turn many are striving to get. H. L. Mencken once said; “What men value in this world is not rights but privileges” and until we let that sink in our hearts and see the more of privileges than rights in education then we will continue to struggle in our quest for global developments through education. Like Aristotle has said “The roots of education are bitter, but the fruit is sweet” such roots are not freely given as rights, they are privileges.



Never take a thing for granted because most times we fail to realize the value of what we have until we lose them, therefore, it is pernicious to have the self delusion that Education is your right. The bitter and simple truth remains; Education is a privilege, not a right, and we are fortunate to live in a democracy. Earth as an ecosystem stands out in the all of the universe. There's no place that we know about that can support life as we know it, not even our sister planet, Mars, where we might set up housekeeping someday, but at great effort and trouble we have to recreate the things we take for granted here, EDUCATION is one of them.


References
FROM RIGHT TO PRIVILEGE: THE STORY OF EDUCATION IN NIGERIA
CHILD EDUCATION IN NIGERIA: A RIGHT OR PRIVILEGE. BY YUSUFF OLA-GOLD, MUTALUB


Oxford Dictionary Advanced Learners Edition
Black’s Law Dictionary
1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria as amended
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/take_for_granted.html#guwXagbhQFa2K5PK.99

I must commend you for the great effort you must have invested in writing that masterpiece up there.

However, the bone of contention is not whether free education as a human right is enforced in today's Nigeria.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Aminat508(f): 4:41pm On Dec 29, 2015
From one of the judges. ( joseph1832) ,

Please it is worthy to note that debaters or even researchers are not suppose to quote wikipedia for any literary work they're doing. Wikipedia is a site where anybody can go and edit and add whatever he or she wants to add. This was seen with the former minister of aviation, Stella Oduah, whose profile on wikipedia was edited quickly when findings showed that she didn't possess a particular class of degree being displayed on wikipedia.

Debaters must know that whatever they use as guidelines for the essay should be a known fact with proof of evidence, that's why its preferable they quote from books and journals and not online websites

You all did a great job!!

Thank you

.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by awesome11(m): 4:56pm On Dec 29, 2015
Aminat508:
From one of the judges. ( joseph1832) ,

Please it is worthy to note that debaters or even researchers are not suppose to quote wikipedia for any literary work they're doing. Wikipedia is a site where anybody can go and edit and add whatever he or she wants to add. This was seen with the former minister of aviation, Stella Oduah, whose profile on wikipedia was edited quickly when findings showed that she didn't possess a particular class of degree being displayed on wikipedia.

Debaters must know that whatever they use as guidelines for the essay should be a known fact with proof of evidence, that's why its preferable they quote from books and journals and not online websites

You all did a great job!!

Thank you

.

Noted!!!!

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by awesome11(m): 5:02pm On Dec 29, 2015
Fynestboi:
Dejman Lasu
Presentation: 2
ii. Logic of arguments: 4
iii. Strength of facts, examples, cases.: 4
iv. Persuasiveness: 2
v. Demonstration of knowledge and
understanding of the subject: 3
Total: 15

Eduntee from Lasu
Presentation: 4
ii. Logic of arguments: 4
iii. Strength of facts, examples, cases.: 2
iv. Persuasiveness: 4
v. Demonstration of knowledge and
understanding of the subject: 5
Total: 17


TOTAL: 32



Awesome 11 Futa
Presentation: 3
ii. Logic of arguments: 2
iii. Strength of facts, examples, cases.: 2
iv. Persuasiveness: 3
v. Demonstration of knowledge and
understanding of the subject: 4
Total: 14

binary007 Futa
Presentation: 1
ii. Logic of arguments: 3
iii. Strength of facts, examples, cases.: 4
iv. Persuasiveness: 3
v. Demonstration of knowledge and
understanding of the subject: 4
Total: 15

Total: 29


TopeQs FUTMINA

Presentation: 3
ii. Logic of arguments: 3
iii. Strength of facts, examples, cases.: 4
iv. Persuasiveness: 2
v. Demonstration of knowledge and
understanding of the subject: 3
Total:
15






[size=15pt]LASU 32
FUTA 29
FUTMINNA 15
[/size]

Thanks for the transparency, But an error has been commited, Binary007 had (1+3+4+3+4) = 15 not 14... Please,kindly look into it.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Fynestboi: 5:07pm On Dec 29, 2015
awesome11:


Thanks for the transparency, But an error has been commited, Binary007 had (1+3+4+3+4) = 15 not 14... Please,kindly look into it.


OK sir...
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by TopeQs: 7:51pm On Dec 29, 2015
Eduntee:
Debate

bro......you did the best job here today.
kudos...

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Habiodunz(m): 7:58pm On Dec 29, 2015
JAMB QUESTION
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by sukkot: 8:08pm On Dec 29, 2015
university education is a privilege. ( a waste of time for most courses, if you ask me ). but an education for a skill is a right. a skill like farming, carpentry, raising poultry, house building, making clothes, auto-mechanic etc etc
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Luukasz(m): 8:16pm On Dec 29, 2015
Are we really practising education in this society NO!! we are not. What we are into is Academics which is just a part of education and education goes far beyond the classroom.
Education should not be a right nor privilege it is compulsory for every living creature.

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Timidelaw(m): 8:17pm On Dec 29, 2015
I have nothing much to say to that. Only physical discussion can bring us to per with our positions. smiley

Neondee
awesome11:


I've gone through your previous posts and it's now understandable why you have such a rigid stance on the argument. However, timidelaw, are you aware we've been conferred with the right to obtain justice? At least, that is one of the human rights you should be familiar with. Do you mean the cost of obtaining justice is free?

My point remains "Not every right is free" and "Education is a right and not a privilege" should not be erroneously interpreted as "Free education is a right, and not a privilege"!!!

What saith thou?

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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Kingtim(m): 8:29pm On Dec 29, 2015
Lemme just say my own. Education is not a right but to be educated is actually a right.. Many are priviledged to been offered education but choose to drift away from been educated.. Either way, i will say education is neither a right nor a privilege. It all depends on an individual who is willing to learn.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by KomradeKorsche: 8:41pm On Dec 29, 2015
Neither! Replace Education with Schooling.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by NeonDee(m): 8:52pm On Dec 29, 2015
Timidelaw:
I have nothing much to say to that. Only physical discussion can bring us to per with our positions. smiley

Neondee
Thanks for the mention, sire!
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by eunisam: 9:51pm On Dec 29, 2015
cued in
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by Fynestboi: 9:57pm On Dec 29, 2015
eunisam:
cued in



shocked shocked shocked
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by AkpanUnanam(m): 6:52am On Dec 30, 2015
Great nairalander
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate: TEAM1: Is Education a Right or a Privilege? by awesome11(m): 10:27am On Dec 30, 2015
TopeQs:
bro......you did the best job here today.
kudos...
Thought so too.. However, it's shameful the scoreline ain't reflecting that!

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