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Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by mukina2: 7:09pm On Jun 17, 2009
ThiefOfHearts:

I should have quoted the pic. It was a mag with a woman in a hijab and right underneath it said AGONIES of NORTHERN MUSLIM WOMEN

uneducated, married young and in bondage.

oh ok i guess i missed it

David
i didnt see it. David besides the topic is about someone wanting a muslim man so gather ur package and go cheesy
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by ThiefOfHearts(f): 7:10pm On Jun 17, 2009
David, muki and osisi didnt see the pic. abeg no fighting here

where's aisha. She had better leave that boy alone and quit wasting his time. Only her brothers are allowed to date/marry outside of the religion
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by Nobody: 7:12pm On Jun 17, 2009
why did she waste 2 yrs with a christian in the first place?
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by mukina2: 7:15pm On Jun 17, 2009
ThiefOfHearts:

David, muki and osisi didnt see the pic. abeg no fighting here

where's aisha. She had better leave that boy alone and quit wasting his time. Only her brothers are allowed to date/marry outside of the religion
I am not fighting the boy is just grrrrrrrrrrrr sometimes cheesy

Aisha
frizy did a thread once wink he may be able to be of help.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by ThiefOfHearts(f): 8:16pm On Jun 17, 2009
arms ke. arms are too "enticing" cos you know something is terribly wrong if a guy can get turned on by mere hair on a person's head.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by Lagosboy: 8:23pm On Jun 17, 2009
ThiefOfHearts:

arms ke. arms are too "enticing" cos you know something is terribly wrong if a guy can get turned on by mere hair on a person's head.

The wisdom behind the hijab has nothing to do with a man getting enticed over a womans hair. By the way the last i checked i havent seen A Mary without her hair been covered, Also all pious and religious jewish women have their hair covered
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by javalove(m): 8:29pm On Jun 17, 2009
Hmmmm . . .

First of all, May Allah guide the sister aisha and provide her with a man that would accelerate her Jannah.
I dont know why u xtianswonr let us be . . .

When Jermain Jackson was  interviewd about his conversion to islam .  .


Did you ever discuss about Islam with your sister pop star Janet Jackson?
[b]
Like other members of my family, my sudden conversion to Islam was a great surprise for her. In the beginning, she was worried. She has stashed into her head only one thing that Muslims are polygamous, they do have as many as four wives. When I explained this permission granted by Islam with reference to the state of the present American society, she was satisfied. This is fact that promiscuity and infidelity is very common in the western society. In spite of the fact that they are married, western men enjoy extramarital relations with a number of women. This has caused devastating moral decay in that society. Islam safeguards the social fabric from this destruction. As per Islamic teachings, if a man is emotionally attracted towards a woman, he should honorably give this relation a legal shape otherwise he must be contented with only one wife. On the other hand, Islam has laid down so much conditions for second marriage that I do not think that an ordinary Muslim can afford to meet these conditions financially. There is hardly one percent Muslims in the Islamic world who have more than one wife. To my view, the women in an Islamic society is just like a well-protected flower which is safe from the stray penetrating looks of the viewers. Whereas western society is devoid of the vision to appreciate this wisdom and philosophy.[/b]


Let the wise ones among u reason cos not all of u have sense to reason
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by javalove(m): 8:48pm On Jun 17, 2009
$osisi:

Jermaine should go the Nigeria and Saudi and say those things and see if he'll come home alive.
If Polygamy wasn't illegal in the USA,many would do same


when u posted thism aw did u feel? did u feel like som1 who just lied?
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by javalove(m): 8:57pm On Jun 17, 2009
$osisi:

I almost fell off my chair reading the highlighted part.
All those impoverished men in western and Northern Nigeria
all those Afghans  and Yemeni that can barely feed themselves
saudi paupers nko?
Do I need glasses?

oo ba subu, iwo lo mo . . . the message here is contentedness. If u can provide for more than one woman according to the measure God has given u, carry on or ZIP UP and gace ur one wife. I'm sure u got the message, u just wanted to behave like a christian
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by No2Atheism(m): 11:30pm On Jun 17, 2009
@poster




- You are naive for you to even expect that your christian guy is supposed to convert to islam cus of you. Yes some people have done it nevertheless don't push your luck.

- You do not love your guy cus if you did, you would not be asking for advise from your muslim brothers knowing exactly what your quran already says. Infact i would advise your guy to run as far away from you as possible considering that you have decided to bring your personal issues to your muslim brothers for a solution.

- You do not know what you have until you lose it.

- Love is difficult to find, yet you seem to be worried that you found love from a non-muslim.

- Why do you want your guy to change to a muslim if you are just concerned about love.

- Why not change to a Christian yourself if you are so concerned about love.

- Are you trying to convert your guy into a muslim out of the assumption that he loves you enough to want to do that or are u interested in purely converting him into a muslim hence only assumed you loved him in other to make his conversion easier.

- If you are so concerned about islam, then please go ahead and say goodbye to the guy and leave him alone and go ahead and say yes to all the muslim brothers suggested by olabowale, oyb and co, at least you know that your muslim brother loves you so much that he's going to show his love for you by marrying another 3 women if he so wishes later in future. Hence as far as am concerned I am going to please advise you to please leave the christian brother alone and go ahead and look for your loving muslim man grin .


This because various posts on this thread should have me you realise the following:

1. Islam cannot evanglise the same way that christian evangelises and physically preaches to people without deception or cohesion hence the need for this ridiculous rule of muslim versus non-muslim marriages.
2. Marriage and giving birth to children raised up as muslims is one of the predominant means that islam is propagated i.e. people are born into a muslims family and thus become muslims by birth and by force.
3. Allah permits muslim to only marries muslim (WHY ).
4. Allah permits muslim men to marry non-muslim women (a contradiction to point 3)
5. Allah does not permit non-muslim men to marry muslim women (so as to create an obvious advantage and reproductive genocide against non-muslims).



So ask yourself,


- Is Allah interested in love.
- Does Allah even know what love is.
- Is Allah only permiting point 4 above just so that islam can be propagated through marriage and sex and children due to marriage.


@poster

If you love your man, you would realise that:

HE SHOULD NOT CHANGE HIS RELIGION BECAUSE OF YOU, SIMPLY BECAUSE HIS LOVE IS FOR YOU AND NOT FOR YOUR RELIGION.


If you are not satisfied with my statement, then leave your guy alone, go your way and find yourself a muslim man so that you can please your so called Allah.


@others

Was Mohammed a muslim by birth or by conversion. since u are so concerned about marriage according to what allah says and the religion of the children born from marriages unaccepted by allah
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by ThiefOfHearts(f): 2:19am On Jun 18, 2009
As usual dodging questions, Your signature trait. First off Edwards isnt "conservative".

These "Christian" men cheating up and down, unlike yours they can never use the New Testament to justify such a behavior

Same way so called Christians cant use the bible to justify beating their wives. YOU however can. Abi? abeg je n gboro gidi.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by dayokanu(m): 4:08am On Jun 18, 2009
@Poster,

If you love the xtian guy why should you think of anything else

And I wonder why women would want to put themselves in the shackles of Polygamy.

The men have not taken full care of one wife they are thinking of four what kind of greed is that.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by No2Atheism(m): 9:03am On Jun 18, 2009
@olabowale, i can see that you have not changed one bit from the person that just talks, shouts, dis-informs, mis-informs and yet does not say anything despite the volume of your spoken words.

@olabowale, i can see that you have not changed one bit from the person who is willing to dodge questions, write stories and yet avoid having to answer the main question.

@olabowale, I can see that you not changed one bit from the person who is willing to say anything (whether true or false) just to defend the indefensible.

@olabowale, keep deceiving yourself and consoling yourself that you won't committ adultery by marrying more than one wife and practising polygamy. Abraham did it (and ended up with the ignoramus descendants known as Arabs). Jacob did it and ended up creating issues for himself. Isaac had all the wealth in the world to do it, but he never did so wat your excuse is as ignorant and unintelligent as it sounds. Noah never did it. The bible never said it was right or correct for Moses to do it.

Abraham was not sinless, instead his sins due to the issue of polygamy were obviously forgiven.
Jacob was not sinless, instead his sins also due to polygamy were also obviously forgiven.

The Messiah Himself made it clear that men and women were created as one man and one woman.
The Messiah Himself made it clear that it is appointed that only one man and one woman should get married to each other forever.



The bible never claimed polygamous is right.
The bible never claimed that polygamous is right because some faithful people or prophets did it.
The bible made it very clear that it is only appointed and directed that only one man and one woman should marry and call themselves husbands and wife.
The bible made it very clear that polygamous is wrong irrespective of the kind of person practising it.


The uncontrollable libido and sexual immorality of Mohammed caused him to sanction polygamy.
The uncontrollable libido and sexual immorality of Mohammed caused him to sanction getting married and having sex with a child as young as 9yr old i.e. Aisha (despite that such things were not originally accepted in Arab culture before the birth of mohammed).


Olabowale stop trying to defend the indefensible just because you choose to do it does not make it right.  Because you cannot keep your own penis inside your trousers when it comes to other women apart from your own first wife does not mean it is right to look at another woman even after being already married to a woman.


Olabowale, because some christians practise polygamy does not mean the bible says they should do it. Stop trying to deceive yourself. Those Christians practising polygamy know that its wrong and unbiblical. Hence it is disingenious of you to want to try to use it to justify your own islam sanctioned sexual immorality.


Olabowale, because some christians have girlfriends outside marriage does not mean the bible said they should do it. Stop trying to deceive yourself into believing a lie. A lie does not become a truth no matter how many times you repeat it and no matter how many times you kill people to propagate it and no matter how many times you suppress the spread of the truth.

The truth is that polygamy is wrong.

The truth is that polygamy is sanctioned and blessed by Islam, Allah, Mohammmed and you.

The lie is that you think polygamy is right.

The lie is that you think the Messiah is wrong and Islam is right.



Olabowale, the act of looking at another woman when you are already married is itself adultery.


Olabowale stop deceiving yourself. Cus that is the only person you would ever succeed in deceiving.


Olabowale if you really want to practise your deprived religion, then go ahead and give your 9yr old daugther (if you have one) to another muslim man so that he can have sex with your daugther at that age.


Olabowale if you really want to practise your deprived religion, then go ahead and make sure your daughters (if you have them) get married to only men that already have one or more wives so that you daughters would experience your so called joy of polygamy that you are so eager to defend.


Olabowale go ahead and practise what you preach by making sure your own daughters experience what you preach.



At the end of the day, You, Mohammed, Allah and islam and are just looking for an excuse in the bible (when there is non) even when the bible clearly showed polygamy is wrong and unacceptable.

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@poster

Go ahead, leave the non-muslim man that loves you and go ahead to marry a muslim man that would show his love for you by marrying more than one wife.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by Lagosboy: 11:22am On Jun 18, 2009
This thread was going on fine until some usual people came on with their long piece of jargon as usual. Sometimes we know how to have a laugh within the confines of our faith if you guys dnt know. It seems u never get tired of fight fight fight and insults.

Back to the topic , Aisha what have you decided now and dont worry about the attacks u get from some quarters as every one makes mistakes in life and the good this is when u realise it you retrace your steps.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by Bolarge(m): 11:34am On Jun 18, 2009
olabowale:


Those of you who claim to love one wife, it is the same you who will roam about looking for cheap thrill. Where is the love that you promise your wife, yet you are two, three, four, etc timing outside, with Mary, Jane, Janet, Mercy, Virginia, etc lol.
Jeez!
I wanna ask u a simple question, has having 4 wives (as u guys have been squawking about) been a panacea for sexual experimentation?
Pls think deeply & clearly before responding.

In bated anticipation of your response.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by dominique(f): 1:36pm On Jun 18, 2009
i'm not here to dive in the middle of friutless arguments. . .  just to drop an observation or two

only here does a thread that's supposed to be for advise gets badly derailed at times i wonder if one moderator is enough. . . a confused sister is seeking for advice, why the heck should polygamy come in? why do you shallow have people just jump to silly conclusions and assumptions when you're not even willing to have basic understanding of the religion (i wonder why babs and co bother)

anyways, the lack of foresight and naivety of the OP led to this, if you know you cant marry a Xtian why start a relationship with one, did you seriously think he'll compromise. . .pleeez, go give yourself some brians gurl.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by Jarus(m): 1:42pm On Jun 18, 2009
Moderator's Comment:

We tried as much as possible to sanitize this thread by deleting identified off-topics. Going forward, let's try to stick to the subject at hand. We can open a fresh thread for other issues or revive a past, related thread.

More than 30 comments that were unrelated to this topic have been deleted, including those from Muslims. And more will be deleted.

We will appreciate if we keep to the subject and not derail the thread.

Thanks
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by Lagosboy: 3:53pm On Jun 18, 2009
Good thing u ve deleted osisi's porn called miss indonesia grin grin jazakallah


No2 atheism's long posts contains loads of diversionary issues as well you could note.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by sosisi(f): 4:03pm On Jun 18, 2009
Lagosboy:

Good thing u ve deleted osisi's porn called miss indonesia grin grin jazakallah


No2 atheism's long posts contains loads of diversionary issues as well you could note.


I'm sure that picture made you smile.
They don't call you lagos bobo for nothing.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by ThiefOfHearts(f): 4:08pm On Jun 18, 2009
Na2, this is one of the few times I actually respect you. Everything said to Olabs is right on the money. He stated many times that he's glad he doesnt have daughters, we both know why.

anyway this thread is about the OP so back to her

Stop wasting more years with this dude. You're wasting your time and especially his. Your faith only allows your men to step out of religion for marriage for some sad reason, so find yourself some dude here, like Fritzy.

If you loved him like you claim, you wouldnt bring your problem to a place where you know they would demean this your "loved one". let him go and move on.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by sosisi(f): 4:08pm On Jun 18, 2009
Jarus:

Moderator's Comment:

We tried as much as possible to sanitize this thread by deleting identified off-topics. Going forward, let's try to stick to the subject at hand. We can open a fresh thread for other issues or revive a past, related thread.

More than 30 comments that were unrelated to this topic have been deleted, including those from Muslims. And more will be deleted.

We will appreciate if we keep to the subject and not derail the thread.

Thanks

Bull!
javalove made a quotation from Jermaine Jackson about polygamy,I replied him and you left his post and deleted mine and there are people who quoted me.
Your moderating skills are a joke.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by ThiefOfHearts(f): 4:09pm On Jun 18, 2009
They're all hypocrites.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by Lagosboy: 4:19pm On Jun 18, 2009
ThiefOfHearts:

They're all hypocrites.

Including me?? grin
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by Lagosboy: 4:22pm On Jun 18, 2009
$osisi:

Bull!
javalove made a quotation from Jermaine Jackson about polygamy,I replied him and you left his post and deleted mine and there are people who quoted me.
Your moderating skills are a joke.

My posts were also deleted and those sistas in hijab have been deleted lols but most especially your miss indonesia

$osisi:

I'm sure that picture made you smile.
They don't call you lagos bobo for nothing.

Erm . . . but i dont get you grin grin
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by Nobody: 4:35pm On Jun 18, 2009
why this was even a thread is a mystery to me. Has aisha not been reading her quran that says she can only marry a muslim? shocked
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by sosisi(f): 4:52pm On Jun 18, 2009
davidylan:

why this was even a thread is a mystery to me. Has aisha not been reading her quran that says she can only marry a muslim? shocked

The same thing I'm saying.
I even provided a sample burqua to make her a good muslima
and I can bet on it that the Christian man will tear race if she starts wearing it and that'll help facilitate the coming of her Muslim mate.
This thread should now be closed,the girl has been adequately advised including jara advise on marrying an already married man as his 2nd ,3rd or 4th wife to live in a happy marital clan grin
She has a zillion eligible Muslim husbands to choose from.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by sosisi(f): 4:59pm On Jun 18, 2009
When one sets out to marry someone you should be ready to accept them for who they are.
If you're a Christian and choose to be entangled with a Muslim wife or husband,you're obviously erring according to scripture but you've made your choice and if you're a Muslim woman and decide to marry a Christian man,deal with it,that's your choice.
What's all this nonsense about wanting to change people when you could save yourself all that headache from the get go and marry your kind.
The man is obviously not reading his Bible.
No Christian filled with the Spirit of God would want to marry a non Christian
The Bible calls it unequal yoking.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by Lagosboy: 5:06pm On Jun 18, 2009
$osisi:

When one sets out to marry someone you should be ready to accept them for who they are.
If you're a Christian and choose to be entangled with a Muslim wife or husband,you're obviously erring according to scripture but you've made your choice and if you're a Muslim woman and decide to marry a Christian man,deal with it,that's your choice.
What's all this nonsense about wanting to change people when you could save yourself all that headache from the get go and marry your kind.
The man is obviously not reading his Bible.
No Christian filled with the Spirit of God would want to marry a non Christian
The Bible calls it unequal yoking.

Tell that to the hundreds and thousands of yoruba christians who marry muslims.
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by sosisi(f): 5:12pm On Jun 18, 2009
Lagosboy:

Tell that to the hundreds and thousands of yoruba christians who marry muslims.

The opposite of Muslim is not Christian
Going to Church doesn't make one a Christian either
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by sosisi(f): 5:14pm On Jun 18, 2009
In the Bible 2 Corinthians 6:14 says:


"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?" (KJV)


"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" (NIV)


"Do not be teamed with those who do not love the Lord, for what do the people of God have in common with the people of sin? How can light live with darkness?" (LB)
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by sosisi(f): 5:15pm On Jun 18, 2009
Aisha should look for her Abdullahi or Lateef and leave Tony alone
Re: Brothers An Sister In Islam by Lagosboy: 5:18pm On Jun 18, 2009
$osisi:

In the Bible 2 Corinthians 6:14 says:


"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?" (KJV)


"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" (NIV)


"Do not be teamed with those who do not love the Lord, for what do the people of God have in common with the people of sin? How can light live with darkness?" (LB)


Now my question is who is light and who is darkness ?

Who is an unbeliever as well.

I repeat there are thousands of christians in the south west married to muslims. I know of so many

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