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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by malvisguy212: 10:23pm On Jan 26, 2016
Demmzy15:
You're not speaking English, I don't understand what you're saying!

Truthman2012 stop deceiving yourself, go to ACADIP and debate like a man not behind keyboards like a coward
I cannot meet him, if he can meet me and accept my terms and conditions, then I am ready to debate him face to face. If he is ready to come to kaduna, I will drop my phone number.
Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by truthman2012(m): 10:24pm On Jan 26, 2016
hockeyoilers:
I find it remarkable that people worship something pulled out of women's vagina, a man who used the toilet.

We dey worship Him and He dey do miracles for us. Jesus is not ordinary something pulled out of a woman o !

Quran19:17] And had chosen seclusion from them. Then We sent unto her Our Spirit and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man.

Note the word 'Spirit' starts with capital 'S'. So Jesus is God's Spirit. Is God's Spirit an ordinary man? You cannot separate God's Spirit from God Himself. Can you?

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Nobody: 10:27pm On Jan 26, 2016
The Bible says that God is not a son of man
‘God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23:19)

The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’
‘so will the son of man be’ (Matthew 12:40)
‘For the son of man is going to come’ (Matthew 16:27)
‘until they see the son of man coming in His kingdom.’ (Matthew 28)
‘But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority’ (Mark 2:10)
‘because he is the son of man’ (John 5:27)
In the Hebrew scriptures, the ‘son of man’ is also used many times speaking of people (Job 25:6; Psalm 80:17; 144:3; Ezekiel 2:1; 2:3; 2:6-8; 3:1-3).
Since God would not contradict Himself by first saying He is not the son of a man, then becoming a human being who was called ‘the son of man’, he would not have done so. Remember God is not the author of confusion. Also, human beings, including Jesus, are called ‘son of man’ specifically to distinguish them from God, who is not a ‘son of man’ according to the Bible

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by malvisguy212: 10:28pm On Jan 26, 2016
hockeyoilers:


You worship a man who used the toilet,
do you know the different between man and God ? If you want to debate the deity of christ, meet me here, I will appreciate your questions and hope you answer mine
https://www.nairaland.com/2156788/conclusive-evidence-quran-proof-jesus
Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Nobody: 10:31pm On Jan 26, 2016
Disciples did not believe Jesus was God
The Acts of the Apostles in the Bible details the activity of the disciples over a period of thirty years after Jesus was raised to heaven. Throughout this period, they never referred to Jesus as God. For instance Peter stood up with the eleven disciples and addressed a crowd saying:

‘Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)

For Peter, Jesus was a servant of God (Confirmed In Matthew 12:18)
‘The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.’ (Acts 3:13)
‘God raised up his servant’ (Acts 3:26

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by malvisguy212: 10:43pm On Jan 26, 2016
hockeyoilers:
The Bible says that God is not a son of man
‘God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23:19)

The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’
‘so will the son of man be’ (Matthew 12:40)
‘For the son of man is going to come’ (Matthew 16:27)
‘until they see the son of man coming in His kingdom.’ (Matthew 28)
‘But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority’ (Mark 2:10)
‘because he is the son of man’ (John 5:27)
In the Hebrew scriptures, the ‘son of man’ is also used many times speaking of people (Job 25:6; Psalm 80:17; 144:3; Ezekiel 2:1; 2:3; 2:6-8; 3:1-3).
Since God would not contradict Himself by first saying He is not the son of a man, then becoming a human being who was called ‘the son of man’, he would not have done so. Remember God is not the author of confusion. Also, human beings, including Jesus, are called ‘son of man’ specifically to distinguish them from God, who is not a ‘son of man’ according to the Bible
Jesus being a man is a decision He take, He chose to take up the nature of man. In Philipians 2:7 Paul writes:
" but emptied himself, by taking the
form of a servant,[a] being born in the
likeness of men"

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Nobody: 10:45pm On Jan 26, 2016
When faced by opposition from the authorities, Peter said
‘We must obey God rather than men! The God of our fathers raised Jesus’ (Acts 5:29-30

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Nobody: 10:46pm On Jan 26, 2016
Matthew 6:9
Our Father, which art in Heaven.


He didn’t pray, Our Father, which art standing right here!”

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by malvisguy212: 10:48pm On Jan 26, 2016
hockeyoilers:
Disciples did not believe Jesus was God
The Acts of the Apostles in the Bible details the activity of the disciples over a period of thirty years after Jesus was raised to heaven. Throughout this period, they never referred to Jesus as God. For instance Peter stood up with the eleven disciples and addressed a crowd saying:

‘Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)

For Peter, Jesus was a servant of God (Confirmed In Matthew 12:18)
‘The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.’ (Acts 3:13)
‘God raised up his servant’ (Acts 3:26
Philipians 2:5-11
In your relationships with one another,
have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6
Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God
something to be used to his own
advantage;
7
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature[ b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
9
Therefore God exalted him to the highest
place
and gave him the name that is above
every name,
10
that at the name of Jesus every knee
should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the
earth,
11
and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus
Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by malvisguy212: 10:51pm On Jan 26, 2016
hockeyoilers:
Matthew 6:9
Our Father, which art in Heaven.


He didn’t pray, Our Father, which art standing right here!”
lol. God the father in heaven , and God the son incarnate in Jesus is teaching the disciples how to pray.

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Nobody: 10:53pm On Jan 26, 2016
The Bible says that Jesus was God’s servant
‘Behold, My servant, whom I have chosen, in whom My soul is well pleased.’ (Matt 12:18) Since Jesus is God’s servant, Jesus can not be God

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Nobody: 10:55pm On Jan 26, 2016
Malvisguy212 your profile has the shahdah, have you accepted Islam

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by malvisguy212: 10:56pm On Jan 26, 2016
Allah sanctions prostitution in the quran;

Surah 5:87: “O ye who believe!
Forbid not the good things which
Allah hath made lawful for you , and
transgress not, Lo! Allah loveth not
transgressors.” (Pickthall)

Ibn Mas’ud, who is considered as one of
the greatest Muslim scholars, related a
well-known incident, which is recorded in numerous Islamic sources. This event will enlighten us on the historical background for the revealing of Surah 5:87. He tells us why Allah revealed this verse to Muhammad. Let us now review this account:

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62,
Number 13o:
Narrated ‘Abdullah (b. Mas’ud): We
used to participate in the holy battles
led by Allah’s Apostle and we had
nothing (no wives) with us. So we said,
“Shall we get ourselves castrated?” He
forbade us that and then allowed us
to marry women with a temporary
contract (2) and recited to us: ‘O you
who believe! Make not unlawful the
good things which Allah has made
lawful for you, but commit no
transgression .’ (Surah 5:87)


The above Hadiths show that Allah
revealed a Qur’anic verse authorizing the practice of Mut’a(prostitution) . In Sahih Muslim’s narration, we are told that Muhammad permitted his followers to “contract temporary marriage for a stipulated period giving her a garment” in return for the enjoyment of sex they receive from her . Alternatively, as the following Hadith shows, even “a handful of grain” is sufficient for the exchange. Muhammad clearly allowed his men to use temporary marriage as a sanctioned form of prostitution.

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Nobody: 10:57pm On Jan 26, 2016
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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by malvisguy212: 10:59pm On Jan 26, 2016
hockeyoilers:
Malvisguy212 your profile has the shahdah, have you accepted Islam
I abandoned islam longtime ago.

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by malvisguy212: 11:05pm On Jan 26, 2016
hockeyoilers:
The Bible says that Jesus was God’s servant
‘Behold, My servant, whom I have chosen, in whom My soul is well pleased.’ (Matt 12:18) Since Jesus is God’s servant, Jesus can not be God
http://biblehub.com/commentaries/gill/matthew/12.htm

Gill's Exposition
Behold, my servant whom I have
chosen,.... These are the words of God
the Father, speaking to the church,
concerning Christ, as mediator; who, as
such, is God's servant, employed by him,
and obedient to him, in the work of
man's salvation; and is a righteous,
faithful, prudent, and diligent one;
whom he, from all eternity, had chosen
to this service, and in the fulness of time
sent him to do it, and supported and
upheld him in it; for it is whom I uphold,
in the Hebrew text. My beloved, in whom
my soul is well pleased; who always was
the object of his love, not only as his own
and only begotten Son, but as in his
office capacity, as mediator; in regard to
which he was his elect, as it is in Isaiah;
and, as such, he was always delighted in
his person, well pleased with his office,
and the discharge of it, and which he
declared more than once by a voice from
heaven, as at his baptism, and at his
transfiguration on the mount: I will put
my Spirit upon him; as he did without
measure, whereby he was abundantly
qualified for his whole work, and
particularly for preaching the Gospel,
being richly anointed with gifts and
graces, above his fellows; of which the
descent of the Holy Spirit upon him, as a
dove at his baptism, which immediately
preceded his public ministry, was a
symbol. And he shall show judgment
unto the Gentiles; meaning, not the
general judgment, at the last day, which
is committed to him; nor the laws of
Justice and equity; but the Gospel, which
is the produce of the God of judgment;
best informs the judgment of men about
the business of salvation; gives an
account of the righteous procedure of
God in justifying sinners, by the
righteousness of his Son; and teaches
men to live soberly, righteously, and
godly: this Christ brought forth, and
showed, at this time, to the Heathens,
the Idumeans, Tyrians, and Sidonians;
who flocked unto him; whereby this part
of the prophecy had its fulfilment: in the
Hebrew it is, "he shall bring forth"; that
is, out of his heart and mouth, and is the
same as "show" here.

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Nobody: 11:13pm On Jan 26, 2016
But one hadeeth abrogates the ruling mentioned in the other.

There was a time where mut'ah was permissible, then the Prophet, sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam, forbade it until the Day of Judgment.

'Umar, may Allaah be pleased with him, enforced the final ruling (and note: not all the Companions were aware of this final ruling).


Case in point> From Saheeh Muslim:


'Ali (Allaah be pleased with him) heard that Ibn Abbas (Allaah be pleased with them) gave some relaxation in connection with the contracting of temporary marriage, whereupon he said: "Don't be hasty (in your religious verdict), Ibn 'Abbas, for Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) on the Day of Khaibar prohibited for ever the doing of it-And eating of the flesh of domestic asses."

(Saheeh Muslim > Book of Marriage > Chapter: The Prohibition of Mut'ah for all times to Come)



, please note, Imaam Muslim also collected authentic narrations regarding the practice of Mut'ah and placed them at the beginning of his Chapter "The Prohibition of Mut'ah for all times to Come". Then at the end of the chapter he brings the evidences for the forbidding of mut'ah. In this chapter Imaam Muslim is making the point that Mut'ah at one time was permissible, then the Prophet, sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam, explicitly forbade it, and 'Umar, may Allaah be pleased with him, was the one who enforced this final ruling.


_____



During the mission of the Prophet, sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam, there were times when rulings were abrogated.

One example is the case of drinking alcohol. It used to be allowed, then later on it was forbidden.

When drinking alcohol was forbidden, did a "new" and "better" drink descend from the heavens for the people to drink from?

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by johnw74: 12:34am On Jan 27, 2016
hockeyoilers:


1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by tola9ja: 1:11am On Jan 27, 2016
malvisguy212:
I cannot meet him, if he can meet me and accept my terms and conditions, then I am ready to debate him face to face. If he is ready to come to kaduna, I will drop my phone number.

Drop ur phone number let us no ur terms and condition copy and paste wount be allowed one on one discussion

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Empiree: 3:50am On Jan 27, 2016
This is crazy. Read this short article. I dont mean to accuse Christians or Christianity. Just decided to post it here. What the heck is this world turning to, jeez! http://naijagists.com/photos-humans-found-buried-alive-in-the-foundation-of-enugu-church-building/

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Blackfire(m): 5:55am On Jan 27, 2016
Annunaki:


I won't attend the lectures of an ignorant, daft and deceptive character, however I have watched youtube videos of him evading questions that exposes his lies and of him deliberately twisting the bible to make cheap points.


u remind me of something that happen in lagos, in mile 2, at the back of the street where chisco transport use to load.. At maza maza, i saw this Muslims with there chairs, megaphone, the crowd, so they were telling people to come, they were sort of debasing the bible to promote mohamed. I laugh as the scholar was al taqiya- slapping- the Christian Man, and he was feeling oh la la.
I decided to ask 3 questions, so when it was my turn, i asked the first one, is it right for a 50+ grandpa to marry a 6years old toddler?. *ayayaya* .
The man fumbled so much with words to defend the indefensible that the crowd marvel at his stupidity. They silently lead me out of premises..
It happened in 2010

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Blackfire(m): 6:09am On Jan 27, 2016
hockeyoilers:
You honestly feel the creator of the heavens and the universe came out of a vagina ?

Riveting tale chap

and u believe a prophet will be gigalo... That is he used to service old women for money. Khadijat was nearly 20 years older than bros moha.
Moha was 20 + , while rich khadijat was nearly 50.

Am i right or wrong?
Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Blackfire(m): 6:15am On Jan 27, 2016
malvisguy212:
Jesus being a man is a decision He take, He chose to take up the nature of man. In Philipians 2:7 Paul writes:
" but emptied himself, by taking the
form of a servant,[a] being born in the
likeness of men"

*really angry at u*
Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Annunaki(m): 6:58am On Jan 27, 2016
Demmzy15:
Sharrap with your bullsh't! If indeed they born you well, I challenge you to go to ACADIP and challenge Mallam Yusef to a debate. If you're sure God is with you, go there.

You can as well challenge me to go to isis and challenge your caliph Abu bkr Al baghadi for a debate. tongue òdé burukú

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Annunaki(m): 7:02am On Jan 27, 2016
truthman2012:


Pls what is ACADIP? How can I meet yusuf for an online debate?

ACADIP is an islamic al taquiya organisation that specialises in twisting the bible and quoting it out of context to make islam look good in comparison. It was founded by one yusuf olatunde adepoju who is a notorious liar. You can do a google search to learn more about the rodent and his organisation.
Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Annunaki(m): 7:31am On Jan 27, 2016
Blackfire:



u remind me of something that happen in lagos, in mile 2, at the back of the street where chisco transport use to load.. At maza maza, i saw this Muslims with there chairs, megaphone, the crowd, so they were telling people to come, they were sort of debasing the bible to promote mohamed. I laugh as the scholar was al taqiya- slapping- the Christian Man, and he was feeling oh la la.
I decided to ask 3 questions, so when it was my turn, i asked the first one, is it right for a 50+ grandpa to marry a 6years old toddler?. *ayayaya* .
The man fumbled so much with words to defend the indefensible that the crowd marvel at his stupidity. They silently lead me out of premises..
It happened in 2010


gringringrin
Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by parisbookaddict(f): 10:14am On Jan 27, 2016
Demmzy15:
You're not speaking English, I don't understand what you're saying!

Truthman2012 stop deceiving yourself, go to ACADIP and debate like a man not behind keyboards like a coward

So you guys cAn kill my Christian brother Truthman.

NOOOOOOOO... Bring the mallam to narialand let's debate here.

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Blackfire(m): 12:04pm On Jan 27, 2016
parisbookaddict:


So you guys cAn kill my Christian brother Truthman.

NOOOOOOOO... Bring the mallam to narialand let's debate here.


@demmyz i stay in ibadan , oyo state . Is the guy in ibadan, if not tell me when he be in ibadan or ve his show.
Oh oh i will love to meet this guy. And i will link nairaland to the talk or debate.
I hope this settles it. @ all my Muslim friends.

Analice09 how are u ?
Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Annunaki(m): 12:43pm On Jan 27, 2016
Blackfire:


@demmyz i stay in ibadan , oyo state . Is the guy in ibadan, if not tell me when he be in ibadan or ve his show.
Oh oh i will love to meet this guy. And i will link nairaland to the talk or debate.
I hope this settles it. @ all my Muslim friends.

Analice09 how are u ?

Yeah it will be good to see an atheist doesn't believe in the bible tear him apart. His usual strategy when debating with christians is to bring the bible into questions that don't concern the bible and quote it out of context to obfuscate issues. That strategy will fail woefully with an atheist grin
Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by muraj1(m): 1:43pm On Jan 27, 2016
Annunaki:


Acadip is an islamic organisation promoted by yusuf olatunde. He specialises in twisting the bible and denigrating it to promote islam. He claims to know the bible well but in reality he is an al taquiya expert who loves lying to further cause of islam.

The above is a blatant LIE!!!


My opinion remains my own but anybody interested in the truth should see the following links:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbWFukrn4W6UNwzl7iDskc-UQpMZmjMMR
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Adenle+ramota

Anybody can do a google search of the phrase ''the fastest growing religion in the world'' and see the outcome.
All these are not the doings of YUSUF ADEPOJU OR ACADIP.

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Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by Blackfire(m): 1:52pm On Jan 27, 2016
Annunaki:


Yeah it will be good to see an atheist doesn't believe in the bible tear him apart. His usual strategy when debating with christians is to bring the bible into questions that don't concern the bible and quote it out of context to obfuscate issues. That strategy will fail woefully with an atheist grin

abeg parisbookaddict tell that there new heavy weight champion bashsan to send me the quote from the bible, that shows the mark in mohamed(peace be upon him) shoulder making him a prophet.
Today will make it two days.. Abi NEPA don take light?.
@annunaki am i a former Muslim? Yes and no. Maybe after the debate with almighty Islamic scholar. Where is that demmyz and others didn't they see my acceptance... Abeg reply quick, i don't want when am too busy u will now start saying @backfire ran away o .
Or are u Muslims scared already?.

*every knowledge i ve or will ve, should make me a better person.. To my neighbour, to myself, and to that yet unseen* .
Re: 136 Christians Convert To Islam In Kwara State by muraj1(m): 2:13pm On Jan 27, 2016
Anybody can contact YUSUF ADEPOJU through his Facebook account: https://web.facebook.com/yusufadepoju

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