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Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by OPCNAIRALAND: 9:58am On Feb 20, 2016 |
bokohalal: No one cares about Edo. Do not interchange Edo and Bini. Edo is what you have for.your land, no one disputes that with you. Your monarchy is a Yoruba throne, its called Bini to separate from whatever monarchy you had prior to Oranmiyan's arrival.in Edo. Bini is a marker for the new dynasty, a pedigree of Yoruba State Rulers, given the title OmonOba, to distinguish separately from Oba. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by OPCNAIRALAND: 10:06am On Feb 20, 2016 |
OmonOba Erediuwa had a identity conflict. He wont be first nor last. Look, the English monarchy had to distant from their German root and drop their pedigree from Battenberg in order not.to create a political storm that could consume their English hereditary. You can write epistle and deny in media who your King is, you cannot and will not reverse the deeds of authority installed over you by Yoruba. Its a done deal! 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by absoluteSuccess: 10:07am On Feb 20, 2016 |
bokohalal: I don't have any, I'm only trying to ferret what you may be trying to suppress from the world go.
Why did you ask me if I've heard that before? Did I asked you if you've heard of Oduduwa before? Is it a new thing or a propaganda that has limited circulation? Why not point me to the source of the story so I can read it myself, or is the source to be found in the mind of the king? Where did you get this story from?
Good, get the site excavated and then determine the age of the landmark, correspond it with the Gregorian calendar and establish the era of Ekaladerhan.
Have I said that anywhere?
The Yoruba did not have contact with the West before the Edos, who sends ambassadors to be trained in Portugal as early as Portugal came on shore of west Africa. The Yoruba were telling their stories, it has nothing to do with Esogian or Edo family except where maybe they confused Oba Ado for Oba of Bini. From what you people were doing here, I've seen Oba Ado to be the king of my homeland, a contemporary of Yeye Oduduwa. What story was told the Portuguese about Bini history? And if she has been great empire from creation, what are to be found littering her lithurgy?
Who are you competing with, why compete your history with anyone? It becomes a weapon if you are just waking up. Am I competing for the glorious Igodomigodo with you? That's because it's your pristine historical identity. 11 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by absoluteSuccess: 10:24am On Feb 20, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: You made a salient point there, you know what? Ifa has the answer to what is going on now as to these people's claims: It's set to Irosun, and it says, bomode kan njeewo banwi boba nbiyin, ejoo re. Oun tii bini a maa bini Eewo asi bere wo. 4 Likes |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by gentleheart1(f): 1:42pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: Please o what made Ife great? What territories were conquered by Ife? Benin empire I know,Oyo empire I know. Never heard about Ife empire. Please explain. What made the Ife great? 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by gentleheart1(f): 1:46pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: Your kings are the ones with identity crisis,please take bini out of your trashy,nonsense history. You people are inferior and not worth been part of. 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by OPCNAIRALAND: 4:58pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
gentleheart1: How do Yoruba kings have identity crisis? Explain. 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by OPCNAIRALAND: 5:10pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
gentleheart1: You dont need a conquest to be great. Ife is a spiritual center, not a political one but from this Oduduwa throne other great colonies and Empires were seeded, Bini amongst them. Ife was a centre of learning and authority in bronze art, Ife the city of palisades, back in the dark ages of knowledge in Africa, Ife already established an independent civilization, art, cult and urbanism found only among states of the Mediterranean sea. . What else do you need to be great? 12 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by gentleheart1(f): 7:36pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
OPCNAIRALAND: Lol bunch of losers and you where asking what other places were conquered by the bini kingdom apart from Yoruba meanwhile your Ife didn't even conquer nowhere. Remove the log in your eye before you try doing same to another person. That reminds me what territories were conquered by the Yorubas?? None of significance I know of so please hush about your Yoruba,stop feeling important when you are not. Isn't it ironic and shameful that Ile-Ife that you all praise and claim that's the cradle of the Yoruba race was never an empire, that leads to my conclusion Ile Ife was obviously under the bini kingdom. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by OPCNAIRALAND: 8:28pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
gentleheart1: I will leave your unintelligent argument open for your brothers with intelligence and grasp on history to reflect upon. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by bokohalal(m): 9:39pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
macof: I was done with this thead but to correct one grave error that Macof and Yoruba people make which goes to do further justice to the Edo argument. Oranmiyan has consistently been said by the Binis to be the youngest of Oduduwa's children so much so that the people called him OMONOYAN. A term that is usually used, contemptuously or affectionately, of the last and most spoiled child in a family. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by alfredolski(m): 11:06pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
bokohalal: What are you saying? Yoruba and Benin who made the earliest contact with the Europeans? |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by sotall(m): 10:35am On Feb 21, 2016 |
alfredolski: Obviously the Benins......dont argue that |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by absoluteSuccess: 2:29pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
alfredolski: Bini was discovered by the Portuguese, who learnt about the greatness of Yoruba from Bini and the Fon. I really wish Bini discovered Portugal. |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by bokohalal(m): 5:34pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
absoluteSuccess: Hehe. There was no "Yoruba " when the Portuguese were in Benin 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by absoluteSuccess: 9:07pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
bokohalal: This is the only argument that made Bini "empire". No Yoruba, just binu and Portugal that's all. How great an empire. I believe Ekaladerhan has not started building "Yoruba" at the time. Hence your god forgot to tell the Portuguese about this your colony. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by macof(m): 12:11am On Feb 22, 2016 |
bokohalal: I've been reading ur shameful attempt to save ur face. Yorubas now created oyo empire only in text books? we are only great because we had western education first? damn! u Bini people have big inferiority complex. u actually think westerners are ur Gods and Lords and must look to them to determine Greatness. .. look how he enlists exchange with European opportunists as greatness what cultural offices do you have? Pls who ever talks of Bini asides art historians? art you learnt from Ife YOU should have said Bini Surpassed Rome oshi nla Oba of Benin is 3rd. ..deal with it! ghost of Ekaladerhan. ..don't go and look for the grave of ur lost prince in Ughotun 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by macof(m): 12:34am On Feb 22, 2016 |
bokohalal: good for you. ..but just stop there before you start claiming Oranmiyan is a bini man called Omonoyan 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by bokohalal(m): 2:37am On Feb 22, 2016 |
macof: Hehe. I remember asking you to provide a 16th, 17th, even an 18th century map of West Africa with Oyo empire on it. You had produced a loud map of Africa made in the 21st century denoting Oyo. I understand Yoruba dilemma. History of empire building is not on their side. As for Yoruba kings hierarchy, the Odionwere of Benin Kingdom has answered. Others have joined in on the side of Benin. Any which way you look at it, Benin Empire and it's exploits are renowned, worldwide. Selling your own people to strangers does not make one an empire. Only in the pages of Yoruba history textbooks was Oyo made one. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by absoluteSuccess: 8:07am On Feb 22, 2016 |
bokohalal: Would the marcators of that time put in place an unexplored hinterland of that time they haven't contacted? They can only put in their maps places they have contacted. But does this contact mean you are great and others don't even exist? So, you were contacted by the gods first? That makes you an empire. People who were not contacted did not have history. Your history seems nested in European contact. So, your glory is to be found on the pages of european advent in west Africa, then why argued with "Yoruba textbook greatness" when it is the same "textbook greatness" you covets?
Because Europeans did not make a map or had any contact with them in Ferdinand Magellan travels.
Ovonramwen Nogbaisi. Tell us the tale of origin of bini that is not entangled with Yoruba history, thence it would be clear you are not an old suzerainty of Yoruba trying to sever relationship following the era of gay activism. Don't tell me your history must always invoke Yoruba to be valuable. Tell me something about the era of Ogiso that is crystal clear to you. What tradition from Bini was renowned to the world?
You change your standards over and over, when they put you in their maps, make exchange with your people and civilize you, it's renowned to you. When they devastated another group, they became strangers, so why celebrate strangers? Are they closer kin to you than your kindreds of the same race? The west didn't contacted you because your country was noised abroad. But because your country is porous and can be crushed within record distance from the coast, by a stronger power. Yours would have been the capital in Yoruba antiquity, but the ancestors moved forward and situated Ife or Oyo outside the littoral region to protect the Yoruba race. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by Nobody: 10:42am On Feb 22, 2016 |
Edo is supreme. Edo is like the founder of most tribes in the Niger Delta like itsekiri, isoko, urhobo, okpe, n co 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by PeterKbaba: 10:45am On Feb 22, 2016 |
[b]My simple questions for the Benins will be: How long did a runaway price from Benin take to walk from Benin to Ife (Probably 3 months). How did he survive without food and water for this period? How can a man so dirty and tired after walking for months, be able to convince the people in Ife, he came from the sky (A better place lol)? What language did their prince speak to the Yoruba's in Ife when he got there and how were they able to understand? How did the Benin know that their prince was alive in Yorubaland? If the Benin claim they own the OBA title, Why did they have to change from Ogiso Dynasty to a new Oba Dynasty? If you believe that Oduduwa was a prince from Ogiso, there should be no reason for the Dynasty change, you guys would have continued with the Ogiso..... My Opinion is that, the Benin knew that the was no royal Male blood to carry on from the last Ogiso Dynasty. The was serious trouble in the Kingdom, so they called for help from their closest Spiritual/Prosperous Ife people to send a Royal male to impregnate their Royal princess, so the kingship could continue (Since kingship is from the Male blood line). Unfortunately, Since a new Male Royal Blood from Ife arrived, they had to change Dynasty from Ogiso to Obaship. End of Story[/b] 21 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by HirstMOG(m): 10:50am On Feb 22, 2016 |
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Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by mulattoclaro(m): 10:51am On Feb 22, 2016 |
Binis are superior to yorubas anytime any day. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by theshaderoom: 10:53am On Feb 22, 2016 |
I did not see a conclusion in this write up sha |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by gungab(m): 10:59am On Feb 22, 2016 |
everyone is great in his own yard... |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by Nobody: 11:00am On Feb 22, 2016 |
I guess by your logic, the Oba Idahome of Benin republic is not a Yoruba oba too...I love your poetry by the way 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by saintkel(m): 11:01am On Feb 22, 2016 |
orisa37:What is dis one saying? 1 Like |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by babyfaceafrica: 11:08am On Feb 22, 2016 |
Lolz...funny thread |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by Dbisector(m): 11:09am On Feb 22, 2016 |
Abeg which village the writer come from, cos I still can't hold on to a fact in his writeup |
Re: Benin Kingdom Vs Yoruba Race: Why Oba Of Benin Is Number One, By Odia Ofeimun by NewNigeriaMind: 11:16am On Feb 22, 2016 |
bokohalal: Dude what you have is Omo n Oba in Bini and like the writer also pointed out, the story of Bini can never be told without a reference to Ile Ife. Just pointing out the obvious 2 Likes 1 Share |
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