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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:57pm On Feb 20, 2016
frank317:


God told him to do it and that makes it right. Yet you find it difficult to answer when asked if you would kill your son if God asked you to do it.

God cant ask anyone to attempt killing his child in this age/dispensation . The question was if I was Abraham , and I said " I dont know"

Boko Haram believe they are killing for God, they can quote their quran to justify their action just the way you are quoting bible to justify Abrahm attempting to murder his son.

Mr. Man anybody can kill and claim its God . I proved that God actually spoke to Abraham . Which is evident in real life - The life and purpose of Christ and the population of modern Israel

You need a whole year lecture on what morality is son.


From an atheist ? Why not

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by johnydon22(m): 12:57pm On Feb 20, 2016
frank317:


God told him to do it and that makes it right. Yet you find it difficult to answer when asked if you would kill your son if God asked you to do it.

Boko Haram believe they are killing for God, they can quote their quran to justify their action just the way you are quoting bible to justify Abrahm attempting to murder his son.

You need a whole year lecture on what morality is son.
Was it that obvious? grin

What Abraham did was right at the same he is running away from emulating Abraham in doing the right thing..




the illustration of God said then it is right is more like..

>>Killing your Siblings is wrong but if your mum tells you to do it then it is right..<<

Religion clouds people's mind in simple objectivity when it comes to moral ethics as long as it has to deal with the flaws in their moral compass, they'd defend it none the less.

the thread is a wonderful case study that i'd like it to stay afloat for more people to read and judge for themselves.

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:01pm On Feb 20, 2016
CoolUsername:


Care to elaborate?

God is eternal and has been existing as three entities . These entities are called the Godhead or Trinity - The Father , Son and Holy Spirit . Muslims claim the trinity is a construct of Christianity obviously to validate their religion .

Religion being fallible (arguably) does not preclude God's existence

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by CoolUsername: 2:06pm On Feb 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


God is eternal and has been existing as three entities . These entities are called the Godhead or Trinity - The Father , Son and Holy Spirit . Muslims claim the trinity is a construct of Christianity obviously to validate their religion .

Religion being fallible (arguably) does not preclude God's existence

But the Trinity is a religious construct.

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by Scholar8200(m): 2:19pm On Feb 20, 2016
CoolUsername:


But the Trinity is a religious construct.
No it isnt! Why do you say this?

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by frank317: 2:23pm On Feb 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


God cant ask anyone to attempt killing his child in this age/dispensation . The question was if I was Abraham , and I said " I dont know"
Ebuka, if God asks you to kill your son like he told Abraham what will you do. This question is arising based on the fact that your God has actually asked someone (Abraham to do it before). this has nothing to do with any dispensation or what God can do. You can't answer the question simply proves you are being dubious.


Mr. Man anybody can kill and claim its God . I proved that God actually spoke to Abraham . Which is evident in real life - The life and purpose of Christ and the population of modern Israel

You never proved God actually spoke with Abraham. You just repeated what the same bible that started the rumor said. You are not wise in anyway, I am just sorry for u. The life and purpose or Christ and the population of moden isreal is not a prove that God spoke with Abraham stop talking trash.

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by UyiIredia(m): 2:59pm On Feb 20, 2016
CoolUsername:


That's weird, why would there be negatives in a 'perfect' book that was inspired by a 'perfect' god?

So because its perfect there must be no negative fight ? Wrong. Take the perfect kill for instance, it's negative but it's still perfect.
Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by urheme: 3:14pm On Feb 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


God is eternal and has been existing as three entities . These entities are called the Godhead or Trinity - The Father , Son and Holy Spirit . Muslims claim the trinity is a construct of Christianity obviously to validate their religion .

Religion being fallible (arguably) does not preclude God's existence


Abraham was not even a christian.....he knew no trinity....wondering how he became the christian father of faith.

Religion is indeed a toxic to the mind.

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:06pm On Feb 20, 2016
frank317:

Ebuka, if God asks you to kill your son like he told Abraham what will you do. This question is arising based on the fact that your God has actually asked someone (Abraham to do it before). this has nothing to do with any dispensation or what God can do. You can't answer the question simply proves you are being dubious.


You never proved God actually spoke with Abraham. You just repeated what the same bible that started the rumor said. You are not wise in anyway, I am just sorry for u. The life and purpose or Christ and the population of moden isreal is not a prove that God spoke with Abraham stop talking trash.


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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by CoolUsername: 4:07pm On Feb 20, 2016
UyiIredia:


So because its perfect there must be no negative fight ? Wrong. Take the perfect kill for instance, it's negative but it's still perfect.

But isn't god all-loving?
Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by UyiIredia(m): 4:16pm On Feb 20, 2016
CoolUsername:


But isn't god all-loving?

And how does love preclude hate ? Doesn't God talk of what he hates eg sin ? Does not loving a thing mean hating another. Like loving a babe and hating her cheating on you.
Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by CoolUsername: 4:46pm On Feb 20, 2016
UyiIredia:


And how does love preclude hate ? Doesn't God talk of what he hates eg sin ? Does not loving a thing mean hating another. Like loving a babe and hating her cheating on you.

Does loving a babe mean you should ask her to kill her loved ones to prove how much she loves you?
Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by UyiIredia(m): 5:01pm On Feb 20, 2016
CoolUsername:


Does loving a babe mean you should ask her to kill her loved ones to prove how much she loves you?

You do know the perception of live in ancient to.es differs from our times.
Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:04pm On Feb 20, 2016
urheme:



Abraham was not even a christian.....he knew no trinity....wondering how he became the christian father of faith.

Religion is indeed a toxic to the mind.

Gen.12 : 2-3 (Old Testament )

And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you, and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing.I will bless those who bless you, and him who curses you I will curse; and by you all the families of the earth shall bless themselves."
Romans 4:14-17 ( New Testament written centuries after )

14 For if those who depend on the law are heirs, faith means nothing and the promise is worthless, 15 because the law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.

16 Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who have the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all. 17 As it is written: “I have made you a father of many nations.”[a] He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed—the God who gives life to the dead and calls into being things that were not.

Can you provide proof that Abraham had no knowledge of the Trinity .

It seems that if you guys cant just comprehend something in the Bible , you conclude that it is deleterious to the mind .

You are just forcing yourself not to believe . Do they give trophies for being an atheist
Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by urheme: 7:06pm On Feb 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Gen.12 : 2-3 (Old Testament )


Romans 4:14-17 ( New Testament written centuries after )



Can you provide proof that Abraham had no knowledge of the Trinity .

It seems that if you guys cant just comprehend something in the Bible , you conclude that it is deleterious to the mind .

You are just forcing yourself not to believe . Do they give trophies for being an atheist

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Emmanuella come and see...ooo
This man thinks he is a jew grin

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:50pm On Feb 20, 2016
CoolUsername:


But the Trinity is a religious construct.

how ?
Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by CoolUsername: 8:29pm On Feb 20, 2016
UyiIredia:


You do know the perception of live in ancient to.es differs from our times.

Perfection should be timeless. God is supposed to know better than primitive men.

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by UyiIredia(m): 8:38pm On Feb 20, 2016
CoolUsername:


Perfection should be timeless. God is supposed to know better than primitive men.

As if the definition of perfection can't change given times and perspectives, like yours. But must Gods knowledge be synonymous with your understanding of perfection. How many tastes will God have to cater to to be perfect ? I guess He'll never be perfect in such a a case.

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by taurus25(m): 2:00am On Feb 21, 2016
It constantly amazes me how little Christians know about their holy book. Whether it’s faithful ignorance, wilful ignorance, or they simply choose to put on a brave face in the midst of adversity, you will never hear a fundamentalist Christian say that the Bible is anything less than the word of God.
Any honest, thinking person reading through the bible cannot ignore the blatant misogyny and barbarity towards women, but most Christians are bible illiterates – they only hear the palatable verses from the pulpit and blindly accept that the bible emanates goodness.
The simple fact is, it doesn’t. Certainly, when you go to church, all you will hear is the message of love. And sure, those verses are in the Bible, but so are a litany of examples of intolerance – sexism, racism, homophobia and cruelty – that reflect the Hebrew society of that time.

Which begs the question, why take your moral code from only parts of the Bible? If you don’t agree that wives should submit to their husbands, women should be silent, or that the pain of childbirth is punishment for Eve’s original sin, or even justification for attempted murder (let alone, all of the sexual abuse) why hold the Bible in such high esteem. Surely, there are more modern works that better reflect your own moral code? Or perhaps, just perhaps, you already know what’s right and wrong, and don’t need a book to tell you that at all…

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by CoolUsername: 9:42am On Feb 21, 2016
UyiIredia:


As if the definition of perfection can't change given times and perspectives, like yours. But must Gods knowledge be synonymous with your understanding of perfection. How many tastes will God have to cater to to be perfect ? I guess He'll never be perfect in such a a case.

Since God is perfect, would you kill a loved one if he tells you to?

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by johnydon22(m): 10:21pm On Feb 21, 2016
CoolUsername:


Since God is perfect, would you kill a loved one if he tells you to?
Its amazing how nobody wants to answer this which was the closing questions of my article, its obvious none of them finds it right to agree to such charge but ironically they revere a man who did... Anyone wanna answer the question yet?

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by Humblebloke(m): 10:56pm On Feb 21, 2016
CoolUsername:

Since God is perfect, would you kill a loved one if he tells you to?
If you are still waiting for answers.......you are on a long thing!
Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by Humblebloke(m): 10:58pm On Feb 21, 2016
johnydon22:

Its amazing how nobody wants to answer this which was the closing questions of my article, its obvious none of them finds it right to agree to such charge but ironically they revere a man who did... Anyone wanna answer the question yet?

Not in a thousand years......

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by taurus25(m): 11:02pm On Feb 21, 2016
"God cant ask anyone to attempt killing his child in this age/dispensation" ....grin lol this explains that in this age/dispensation anyone who hears voices in his head and carries a knife to go kill his son would be punished to the full extent of the law no excuse whatsoever.

Man is gradually evolving from such barbarity
cheesy

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by johnydon22(m): 11:43pm On Feb 21, 2016
Humblebloke:


Not in a thousand years......
Its just too obvious and funny grin
Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by Humblebloke(m): 12:20am On Feb 22, 2016
johnydon22:
Its just too obvious and funny grin



As in eh!....... They keep dribbling you when you ask them to provide an answer to a straightforward question.......


Its like their way of life.....

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by johnydon22(m): 8:17am On Feb 24, 2016
Humblebloke:




As in eh!....... They keep dribbling you when you ask them to provide an answer to a straightforward question.......


Its like their way of life.....
You can imagine... a simple question that demanded a simple answer

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by johnydon22(m): 8:22am On Mar 20, 2016
UyiIredia:


So because its perfect there must be no negative fight ? Wrong. Take the perfect kill for instance, it's negative but it's still perfect.

Something cannot be perfectly positive at the same time positive... Unless such a thing cannot exist.

PERFECTION means precise, needs nothing else so if your God is Perfect in a positive way there cannot be any negative characteristics attributed to it if it is perfectly negative then there cannot be any positive characteristics attributed to it.

Something perfectly negative at the same time perfectly positive is impossible and cannot exist...

So you must decide which perfect your God is...

The perfect kill is perfectly negative and can never be said to be perfectly positive..

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by johnydon22(m): 8:24am On Mar 20, 2016
Another person passes God's test.. A muslim woman just emulated Abraham

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35685981

murders a child and parades the child's head in the street shouting "God is great" (Allahu Akbah)

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by Nobody: 8:43am On Mar 20, 2016
Something needs to be done about these Abrahamist homicidal maniacs. These people are just too demented... isn't it about time that Abrahamism is declared a dangerous mental illness? No government would permit a deadly disease to spread throughout a nation. They would impose a quarantine and eliminate the disease!

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by Nobody: 9:00am On Mar 20, 2016
It's hightime we faced the facts regarding Abrahamism - it's a lethal, communicable virus... an apocalyptic death cult that has no place in any civilised society. Over and over again it proves that it is completely incompatible with the modern world and with any concept of human rights. This is the 21st century. How much longer can we tolerate slow belief systems that convert human beings into brainwashed killers?

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Re: Abrahamism Or Celebration Of Barbaric Savagery by wiegraf: 4:30pm On Mar 22, 2016
UyiIredia:


As if the definition of perfection can't change given times and perspectives, like yours. But must Gods knowledge be synonymous with your understanding of perfection. How many tastes will God have to cater to to be perfect ? I guess He'll never be perfect in such a a case.
these are the smartest things you've said since you stopped pretending to be atheist. and you always believed them, yet you live with such dissonance. are you willing to accept you're a godist and no humanist as well? inb4 you claim i believe in god because of tone of this post...

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