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What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 12:57pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
1. They are very un-objective. They dont want to discuss paedophilia, amputation, beheading, temporary marriages and other inhumane things in islam. They easily lock threads that discusses these issues, that constitutes e-terrorism. 2. They are very unintelligent. The quality of responses is embarrassing. Ask a simple question and you all sorts of responses a 5 year old should never give. 3. They see debates about islamic norms as a game. non-muslims are more interested in debating and discussing these issues and produce evidences, muslims see this as a game and will subsequently go to the religion section to start very unintelligent threads, as a way to get back at non-muslims. 4. They dont know or choose to ignore the fact that allah already decreed them to hell fire. |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by muhsin(m): 1:14pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
Greetings, I hope this thread is meant to make people laugh. I start: |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by Nobody: 7:24pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
this from a retard who calls atheism a religion see this sad excuse for a human being calling muslims unintelligent. ode. outside of your copy and paste from the net, the only place on NL where you feature is form games. i wonder what that says about your intellect. your life is one dimensional - all you do is some sad attempts at character assassination of Prophet Muhammed. in an attempt to decieve us that your religion is the way. fortunateness we have the refugees from the 'truth' of your so called religion to show you up for the BS you stand for Christians - when their friends of the atheist religion trap them in their illogical fallacies, they start to bleat about 'the word' being required to comprehend the buybull .methinks this word is parablese( the language of the NT) for dementia Noetic, i have asked osisi, let me ask you - what did your god encourage when mary a 12 year old was married to Joseph a 90 year old widower? plus - what did you father in heaven fiurthe r encourage when he begat a child from his 14 year old child? seems like your god has a lot in common with that incestuous freak from austria last year noetic, have you ever discussed the fact that your so called god sanctioned rape and genocide of unbelievers? have you eveer discussed the fact that you god jesus did not object to slavery? have you ever discussed the fact that you lot cannot agree on anything? have you ever discussed the fact that you lot keep reinterpreting scripture to suit the moment? classic example the unforgivable sin - blaspehming the holy ghost osisi says its really about blaspheming jesus noetic says paul blasphemend and was forgiven confusion everywhere 'the word' is a strange thing - it seems the only way around it's contradictions is to focus on attacking Islam |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by Jarus(m): 7:31pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
I actually wanted to do what I know how to do best to this thread for the simple reason that the title of this child board is ISLAM FOR MUSLIMS, and this rambling difinitely has nothing to do with Islam for Muslims, but another childish analysis that deserves a place in the recycle bin. I don't care if the Religion section Mod leaves Abuzola's version there, that is his discretion. But let me sacrifice my precious time to reply the baseless allegations you put forward: 1. They are very un-objective. They dont want to discuss paedophilia, amputation, beheading, temporary marriages and other inhumane things in islam. They easily lock threads that discusses these issues, that constitutes e-terrorism. See who is accusing another person of inobjectivity. No other issue has been discussed here more than what you mentioned above. Olabowale and co have taken their time to school you on those subjects for about 3 years now, but in your characteristic defiant manner, you will never listen. And FYI, temporary marriage is never part of Islam. It is a practice of some misguided Shiites and has no place in Islam. Abuzola,oyb and co have taken you guys up on this paedophilia talk. Oyb opened a thread on it. Now tell me, if we don't want to discuss it, will oyb initiate a thread on Aisha? I pity you. 2. They are very unintelligent. The quality of responses is embarrassing. Ask a simple question and you all sorts of responses a 5 year old should never give.I can't stop laughing. Muslims here unintelligent? I can say without equivocation that few people match Olabowale and Babs in quality of debate and analytical skills on NL, but your sealed hearts will never allow you to see reason in whatever they present. 3. They see debates about islamic norms as a game. non-muslims are more interested in debating and discussing these issues and produce evidences, muslims see this as a game and will subsequently go to the religion section to start very unintelligent threads, as a way to get back at non-muslims.Other than Abuzola, who else goes to religion section to start threads? Olabowale is active on the religion section, not there to start threads, but to defend Islam/Muslim in offensive threads started by Christians/Atheists over there and expose your false accusations. And you are also guilty of this. You started this very thread as a response to another started by Abuzola in religion thread. You have also committed the offence 'playing game'. 4. They dont know or choose to ignore the fact that allah already decreed them to hell fire.Poor you. So you know the Qur'an more than us. I have personally engaged Davidylan on this when we crossed path in past threads. NL is the first place I'm hearing this, and I read the Qur'an cover to cover. I don't know where you see this. The truth is ANYBODY THAT DIES A MUSLIM WILL MAKE AL-JANNAH(PARADISE), and only the ones that committed very great sins, and dying in it,without repenting or feeling remorseful, MAY temporarily taste hellfire before being finally admitted to paradise. mukina and jarus are the most embarrassing. They have NEVER made any meaningful contribution to both pro and anti islamic posts. all they understand is the deletion of posts and the banning of members and ip address. All of which is equivalent to terrorism.The beauty of Islam is that you don't say what you don't know. Islam is based on knowledge, not what you feel. I am surely not as knowledgeable as Olabs and Babs, but I try my best to educate my Muslims brothers and non-Muslims on areas I know very well, and leave more knowledgeable brothers and sisters with others. Care to know how I took on Funmi Deepzone on the aspect I know best in Islam: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-209195.0.html |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 7:36pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oyb: what a maladroit. what does this nonsense have to do with the thread. imbecilic slowpoke.
how come no one has been able to assassinate the character of Jesus? This means that mohammed really has questions to answer about his moral values.
cant make sense out of this. what do u normally do with ur brain? do u have one at all?
This is coming from the same islamic troll of allah. where in the bible was mary and joseph's age mentioned?
where in the bible is this written?
how is my opinion and osisi's contradicting? are u educated at all? 1 Like |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 7:37pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
Jarus: isnt that what this thread attempts to address? ur inability to get involved in objective discussions but preference for injustice. is this islamic? |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by Nobody: 8:03pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
noetic, don't you read your own bible again? abi you spend so much time studying islam that you have forgotten your holy book lets see. . . http://www.religioustolerance.org/sla_bibl2.htm
before noetic tries to claim that servants are not slaves |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by Nobody: 8:05pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
hereeeeee's jesus!!!! curing slaves but not commanding their masters to set them free 1Now when he had ended all his sayings in the audience of the people, he entered into Capernaum. noetci , such a sad excuse for a human being - why have you never discussed your lord's lassiezz faire approach to slavery? |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by Nobody: 8:14pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
lets see what true, honest christians (not the duplicitous hypocrites parading on nairaland have to say about the age of mary: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm Marriage see these folks discussing http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?p=4364719 of course, noetic and co can never discuss that - s it will show them up as the hypocrites the truly are [size=14pt]noetic, if you are not a liar, a hypocrite and a fake christian, i challenge you to start a thread on the age of mary when she married joseph and when she gave birth to jesus [/size] |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 8:17pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
why not open a new thread to discuss slavery. . .thou ridiculous troll please give other mohammedans the chance to respond and stop ejaculating ur ignorance |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by Nobody: 8:25pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
what a coward is that the best you can come up with you are a real disgrace answer the question, did you lord condone slavery or not? or are you waiting for osisi to come and bail you out as usual? before you duck behind her skirts, please remember. . . 1 timothy 2:12-15[b] I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent[/b]. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. you lot are disgrace to your religion - why are you allowing a woman to be the front runner in your war on Islam as i said before - [size=14pt]noetic, if you are not a liar, a hypocrite and a fake christian, i challenge you to start a thread on the age of mary when she married joseph and when she gave birth to jesus[/size] |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 8:27pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oyb: Ridiculous IDIOT. I will answer u and engage u regardless of the stupidity of ur arguments. But I dont want u to derail the thread, which is ur intention. so open a new thread for ur tissues. |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 8:39pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
where are the other NL muslims and their tails? where is sir olabs? |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by Nobody: 9:12pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
noetic the coward my statement noetic, have you ever discussed the fact that your so called god sanctioned rape and genocide of unbelievers? have you eveer discussed the fact that you god jesus did not object to slavery? have you ever discussed the fact that you lot cannot agree on anything? have you ever discussed the fact that you lot keep reinterpreting scripture to suit the moment? Tongue his answer where in the bible is this written? and now the little hypocrite is dodging, stalling, waiting for his betters to bail him out anyway, that's what christians did in the old days when threatened, they fled - so maybe noetic is a true christian - wait no he isn't - i mean what is a christian, anyway? it seems there are over 40 definitions : http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_defn.htm There are also many distinct definitions of the term "Christian" (pronounced 'kristee`�n). Four examples are: Most liberal Christian denominations, secularists, public opinion pollsters, and this web site define "Christian" very broadly as any person or group who sincerely believes themselves to be Christian. Thus, Fundamentalist and other Evangelical Protestants, Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox believers, Presbyterians, Methodists, Episcopalians, United Church members, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Scientists, etc. are all considered Christian. Using this definition, Christians total about 75% of the North American adult population. see how the little runt avoids threads like this - https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-289633.0.html the only thing he is good for is attacks on Islam preferably from behind his betters |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by Nobody: 9:14pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
see as the coward has run away - waiting for osisi to mark register so he can take potshots at me from behind her why is it so hard for him to adhere to timothy's instructions |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 9:43pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oyb: can u just do me a favour . . . .please open a new thread for this. . . I will engage u there. thank u. |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by Nobody: 9:45pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oh the age of Mary conundrum . . . pls those stating ages shld be ready to give us CONCRETE PROOF. I know its the MO of muslims to shield Aisha's child abuse case by brandishing false ages for Mary. |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 9:56pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
Jarus: which explains why u have decided to delete threads that expose the ills and evil prevalent in islam and the paedophilia acts of mohammed, even when haddithe were produced that established that mohammed indeed was a paedophile. Even when there is no evidence in the koran to suggest that allah ever forgave anybody. All u have responded with is to cover for allah and mohammed to delete the threads.
Another ridiculous rant. Why have u endlessly deleted these threads? what were u afraid of? were they not discussing islam? was it because they revealed the evils of islam? are the are sunnis not muslim? do they not practise misyar?
will u stop embarrassing urself. what is a sealed heart?
This is very false. This thread is a product of the scheming that has resulted in u deleting several threads that reveal the hypocrisy of islam. I have repeatedly remained objective over and over again. what are the false accusations? is allah not associated with the moon? is mohammeds father not called abd-allah? did mohammed not kill people? did mohammed ever forgive anyone? has allah ever forgiven anyone? did he not ask u to kill all non-muslims?
u keep embarrassing urself with ur folly and denial. are these not the words of allah? There will be no one of you who will not enter it (Hell). This was an inevitable decree of your Lord. -- Sura 19:71-72 And if ye are SLAIN, or DIE, in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass. And if ye DIE, or are SLAIN, Lo! it is unto Allah that ye are brought together. -- Sura 3:157-158 Think not of those who are SLAIN in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord; -- Sura 3:169 when u become objective and less foolish u will objectively observe the folly of allah and his doctrines.
is olabs and babs are the legendary examples of muslims u have got. . . then too bad. |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by Nobody: 10:08pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
Jarus: err knowledge of what? |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 10:20pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by olabowale(m): 2:13pm On Jul 12, 2009 |
@Noetic2: « on: Yesterday at 12:57:23 PM » The two in bold can be found as means of justice in Islam. Definitely the amputation of cronic thieves is a must. Let me ask you, do you let the arm robbers terrorise your family and if you have a chance while at it, you will not kill anyone of them, all of them, if you can? Your failure to do so will definitely result in their leaving with your properties, violating your loved ones, the women in particularly. And if their is any homo sexuals among them, your honor will be in jeopardy, too! Islam is very vast and none of us is a scholar. I am not surprised that you observed the same thing. But we satisfied ourselves about your accusation of pedophilia against the holy prophet (AS). If I may ask youdo you know a society or people which does not eat "Snail" because of its slimyness? What do you think if they learn that the Yorubas consider "Escargo" a priced delicatesse? They may actually think the Yorubas are crude, I would think. Thats how your pedophilia accusation is to me. What evidence have you been able to produce against Muhammad (AS) on your crying about his pedophilia act? That will have let merit than a people who dont eat Escargo producung evidence against the Igbo or Yorubas, or Hausas or Nigerians who consider it soemthing special. When a swiss person sees how the nigerians go crazy about lacy and or Damask, he wonders. These materials are less important in the article of clothings that they wish to own. I summit that your quality of morality is based on your experienced, your society and the place that you live and at the time you rae there! I wonder what people must have thought Mary was when she was pregnant as a single girl, yet unmarried? This single reason being yourunmarried virgin is why Allah allowed Son to defend Mother by giving him voice in the cradle! We the muslims are defending our beloved Muhammad from our computer. Even if what you say is true, it may be that our part of the Hellfire does not burn people since there is paradise waiting for us, anyway. We may be there to observe the burning up of the disbelievers, so that we can appreciate the more the Mercy that we are receiving. It is not impossible to imagine the fire not burning a believer, because it had happened on earth with Ibrahim (AS). |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by olabowale(m): 2:19pm On Jul 12, 2009 |
@Davidylan: That Allah is Lord God Almighty Creator! Look around you, is there another creator? If there is more than one, dont you think each would have worked against the other, tryng to get over and usurp the authority of the other(s)? Get serious man. Wat am happy about is that each of you is still young enough to make mistakes and correct them, hopeful before you die! Whata about the old people who are unwaivering in the possible error that they are in? |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by olabowale(m): 2:27pm On Jul 12, 2009 |
Guys stop calling one another bad names |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by olabowale(m): 2:48pm On Jul 12, 2009 |
@Noetic2: « #2 on: Yesterday at 05:04:17 PM » Whats so objective by you responding to your own entry? Sorry. I know that you are frustrated and its showing. Take it easy, man. Finally whats so objective about you tryig to shout us down by your assertion of pedophilia of a situation which took place over 1400 years ago? Did anyone today kept the record of age of maturity then, or found out if Aisha my mother (RA) was already reached puberty? If a woman was engaged to a man who later refused to marry her and she married some one else after this, can we sincerely say that she was still an immature person? Why would aman who liked young girl married one, and left her for 3 years before consumating the marriage? Why 3 years and whats the purpose if he was such a pedophilile? You have no argument so this is the reason you may be ignored after a good argument have been put forward to help you think about future opinions on the matter. But instead you just go on and on arguing blindly without any single evidence, except a weak ahadith, at best. And we know that it is weak because it goes again the Quran and the quality of the one who personified it. |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 11:39pm On Jul 12, 2009 |
olabowale: why is forgiveness not an option to allah? why is allah a condoner of jungle justice? who has allah ever forgiven? why does allah want all non-muslims dead?
whats all this u are running about with? how many times do u want me to produce the haddiths were aisha clearly stated her age? why do u shamelessly love us to go through this circle again?
so u do acknowledge that u are hell bound? INCREDIBLE! |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by olabowale(m): 3:56pm On Jul 13, 2009 |
@Noetic: 5:73 to top Muhsin Khan: Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no ilah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilah (God -Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall the disbelievers among them. 5:74 to top Muhsin Khan: Will they not repent to Allah and ask His Forgiveness? For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 5:75 to top Muhsin Khan: The Messiah ['Iesa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary), was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother [Maryam (Mary)] was a Siddiqah [i.e. she believed in the words of Allah and His Books (see Verse 66:12)]. They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while Allah does not eat). Look how We make the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to them, yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth). The above is just a respond to your statement about Allah not forgiving people. Above, you will see that the door of Forgiveness is opened wide for you to walk right in! Read again! |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by olabowale(m): 4:23pm On Jul 13, 2009 |
@Noetic:« #25 on: Yesterday at 11:39:35 PM » I have adressed your Forgiveness issue. I even show you that Allah throws in Mercy. too. Now, everyone will die, muslims or not. Death is inevitable. So take your lump like a man. You cant escape it. No way, no how, no escaping it! [Quote] whats all this u are running about with? how many times do u want me to produce the haddiths were aisha clearly stated her age? why do u shamelessly love us to go through this circle again? [/quote] Just like the Bible's Gospels according to the 4 named, ahadith is like that. It is also according to. Why do we know what is true about the Gospel Verses? The qualities and duties of Jesus have to be the measure of each. The same we we dispute you calling Jesus god, because it just does not jive. It is the same way that we argue about the ahadiths. We only agree if it is in line with the quality of the Messenger (AS). I dont wanna go on debating a dead issue. Let me tell you, whatever the prophet did, I am satisfied with. I copy him to a "T" if I can. [Quote] Even if what you say is true, it may be that our part of the Hellfire does not burn people since there is paradise waiting for us, anyway. We may be there to observe the burning up of the disbelievers, so that we can appreciate the more the Mercy that we are receiving. It is not impossible to imagine the fire not burning a believer, because it had happened on earth with Ibrahim (AS). so u do acknowledge that u are hell bound? INCREDIBLE![/quote] The "IF" of my statement kills any possibility of saying that I said that I agreed. Read it again. If we have to assume that you are correct, it will be the part of the hell that does not burn, like your part that will incinerate you one time! Is that what you want man? To burn in hell over and over and over again, while my side is the spectator part, seeing you suffer? Let me make it clear to you; there are two arts in a stadium; the athletes parts in the competition and the spectator part enjoying the activities in the shades. Another is the luxurious part in Nigeria and the sufferring part. Both are in Nigeria. |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 6:34pm On Jul 13, 2009 |
olabowale: if I claim to be the richest man on earth, does that make me a rich man? where is my money? where are my investments? Allah claims to be forgiving. . . . , WHO HAS HE EVER FORGIVEN? |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 6:39pm On Jul 13, 2009 |
olabowale: who has allah ever forgiven? why does allah not forgive? why do u have to kill non-muslims?
so u are ok with paedophilia and thighing?
let me understand u. . . . .u agree that u are hell bound. . .right? |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by babs787(m): 8:01pm On Jul 13, 2009 |
@Noetic The below caught my attention and felt as the most important 1. They are very un-objective. They dont want to discuss paedophilia, amputation, beheading, temporary marriages and other inhumane things in islam. They easily lock threads that discusses these issues, that constitutes e-terrorism. Do you care to create threads for the emboldened words and we discuss? |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by noetic2: 8:25pm On Jul 13, 2009 |
babs787: ur fellow muslims and e-terrorists have deleted the threads created for these issues. so u can create one. . . .I will gladly engage u. |
Re: What I Observe About Muslims In Nairaland. by olabowale(m): 8:43pm On Jul 13, 2009 |
If I did not know better, I will think that Noetic is a broken record. He repeats himself too much. |
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