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|Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Mayor78: 7:37am On Feb 24, 2016|
I have for sometime been contemplating on starting a project to build a family holiday home at my home town in Anambra East, where I hope to someday retire but in the meantime once in a while, and or as finances allows often take my family to spend our holidays.
On my quest window shopping for a contemporary house designs I stumbled on the Property section of this website Nairaland.com where I found out that a lot has been happening around building a house in Nigeria. Specifically that guys are educating novices like me on the requirements and processes on house building, marshalling out sequences and how to's in transforming ordinarily would be gravesites or fish ponds to magnificent edifices of liviable cosy homes. I terribly was amazed on the extent to which crafty and benevolent guys have gone to demystify the myth that building one of those magnificent homes often seen in Nollywood home movies can only be done by multimillionaires.
Having gone through some of the threads in the property forum of nairaland, particularly ‘The Real Cost of Building a Six Bedroom Duplex’ created by Spyder888, I quickly learnt that you don’t need, or have to wait untill you amass millions of naira or luckily win ‘Euromillion lottery’ to start and complete one of those mansions.
In the above thread by Spyder888, so many contributors shed loads of light on the basic requirements, processes, stages, tricks, real-time cost of materials, unbiased and cautionary material estimations, even free house drawings, photos, ideas, and how tos’ in building a house. It wasn’t only amazing but factually encouraging. For someone contemplating whether or not to, I must confess that I was really inspired and motivated after coming across the nairaland property forum and indeed reading thoroughly through several contributions and guides on the thread as well as other threads on property forum. I quickly learnt you only need to have access to modest income source not necessarily in millions and a zeal to own a decent home in Nigeria.
Following the learning's, inspirations, and motivations, I had a good thought for the journey and have decided to take the bull by the horn to graduate from a contemplator to ‘undertaker’. In that sense, I have decided to start a project to build a 5 Bedroom Duplex at my home town in Anambra East. It is therefore with joy and great enthusiasm that I today announce that my journey to own a decent retirement/holiday home in Nigeria (arguably one major aspiration of most reasonable Nigerians in Diaspora) has began. May God help me!
Here I intend to apply some of my learnings and very open to learn more while micro-managing the project from my base here in Europe. I'll endeavour to share my progress as much as I can welcoming as case may be ideas, guides and solutions on how to's when confronted with hurdles as I navigate.
I already have a fenced and gated level land measuring about 140/200 ft. That is one problem solved.
I solicited for, and secured the services of an Architect, whom I have instructed to go ahead to produce the drawings of a house design and floor plan chosen among the options he emailed to me. He promised to deliver the work soonest...,,
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|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by OCTAVO: 8:02am On Feb 24, 2016|
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|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by twinskenny(m): 8:12am On Feb 24, 2016|
Am here too.. Good luck sir
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by idris4r83(m): 9:52am On Feb 24, 2016|
Front sit with my sack of popcorn
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|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by slimtik(m): 11:33am On Feb 24, 2016|
Where is my seat and my notepad? I don position for class too. Oya let's go dia! I expect our very own Prof. Spyder880 as one of the guest lecturers here oh!
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Mayor78: 3:20pm On Feb 24, 2016|
While waiting for the drawings, I enquired and got the following prices for start up materials;
Bag of cement N1,500
Trip of sharp sand - N12,000
Moulding of 9" block -- N800 per bag
Tanker of water - N4000
Given the above quote I have gone ahead to send the sum of N208,600.00 and delegated my cousin to procure cement, and sharp sand (river sand) and the needful to start moulding some blocks. I intend to start with moulding my own blocks rather than buy. I’m not particularlg in a hurry neither would I be rushing the project. Anyway, I don’t have any stash of or the bulk cash to rush the project to completion even if I wanted to. As a salaried worker, monthly expenditures would often suffice, and at best, bi-weekly procurement plan when condition allows. One thing am sure of is that it will not be one year, one block.
The sum above is assumed to cover the following
50 bags of cement N75,000
7 trips of sand N84,000
Moulding of 50 bags @N800/bag - N40,000
Thanks of water /2@4,000 - N8,000
was promised that the materials will be ready today and work will start tomorrow. I will let you know if my instructions were followed. God help me!
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|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by mufutau55(m): 4:37pm On Feb 24, 2016|
Welcome to Nairaland. God shall help you to attain you objectives.
Make sure you are savvy with financial dealings with family members.
Request for pictures of everything with background to know that the pictures
are actually coming from your site since you already know the site.
God help us all.
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|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by BrabusNG: 5:07pm On Feb 24, 2016|
Congrats Hon. Mayor78,
Interestingly, I never read it anywhere dat dem dey catch late comer for home ownership. Take your time, the bottomline is do your best to get it right.
Even if it's only one that fate allow us to have, let that one be worthwhile.
#askme Chateau de Brabus was built between 2010 and 2015. And we are yet to do the final paint work (I just did first coats and decide to chill out). Anyone who feels it's too late can give me fund to complete the rest work to taste. I'll gladly take it and still take my time to judiciously spend it.
Enjoy all the intrigues, suprises and disappointments that come along. It's part of the fun. May God add more bricks and mortar to your project. Amen.
Wishing you good success.
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|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Mayor78: 7:32pm On Feb 24, 2016|
Welcoming you all that are already onboard as those that will be joining.
@Hajji M, many thanks for reminding on the importance of being savvy especially with family members. I just hope that the so called ten percent loss which seems to have become the accepted threshold at which one will be said to be doing OK will be enough for this my cousin. It's good to have such benchmark in mind to know when water don dey pass gari. More info on and why this cousin will be forthcoming. Stay tuned.
For early start, and adopting a sceptic stance, I have assigned a friend to get me a quote for the items cement, sand, moulders, etc. I intend to use that as verification. The friend is not known to my cousin and lives in neighbouring town. Magnitude of any variation matters. We will see....
@Brabus, Oloye! I agree with you, no late comer for home ownership. Remember that saying that whenever time one wakes up during the day is one's morning lol! Yeah better late than never is the mantra. Besides it pays to come later as one would have the benefit of avoiding some mistakes because many old hands are already onboard to help navigate the rough terrains. That's why we are here..,.
Just been told that my money has been received and some purchases already done..........so fast! Update coming.
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by smiley001(m): 7:52pm On Feb 24, 2016|
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Dieumerci(m): 10:13pm On Feb 24, 2016|
Congrats sir and welcome aboard.
Some of us also stumbled on this property section and have remained happy and grateful.
Is your own part of Anambra East within the swampy areas?
Find out the cost of getting a borehole...rather than buying water.
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Mayor78: 1:20am On Feb 25, 2016|
@smiley thanks a lot, but I am not a 'Sir' abeg before wind go carry me to unknown abeg. Just Mayor would do, my guyname. Never reach title here.
@Dieumerci Same applies, Thanks. Am considering the borehole stuff but want to avoid the delays, distractions, and mostly cost associated with digging one in the short term. My part of town is in the hillside and very dry. The last time I made enquiries about having one done in the compound, they were quoting between N300k to something around N700k. You know these guys because they knew you reside abroad, they exhibit these misplaced impressions that guys abroad pluck money from the tree. Attempts to educate them that we work much more hard atimes in very harsh environments, they still believe you are deceitful. So abeg make I pack borehole for now. I want to believe that the N4k per tank is very expensive considering that a stream where the tankers fetch water is just about a thousand metres to the compound but for now I have to start at that till I hit the real cost. When I know who are my real people I will initiate a fresh move to get the real cost of borehole hopefully. Waka dey!
Pleas how can I cut cost of phone calls to Naij. I reckon that marathon of phonecalls would be essential to keep going. Ideas please!!!
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by BrabusNG: 1:30am On Feb 25, 2016|
Mayor78: Pleas how can I cut cost of phone calls to Naij. I reckon that marathon of phonecalls would be essential to keep going. Ideas please!!!
Whatsapp call or Viber calls to get live video update if necessary.
Sow a smartphone into the life of your site manager.
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Mayor78: 1:52am On Feb 25, 2016|
Thought that would be key Oloye!. I have already arranged for a smartphone to be delivered to him tmoro from Onitsha. Viber or WhatsApp calls would require steady access to Internet. What data package at reasonable cost would best suit the show irrespective of network pls?
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by EgunMogaji: 5:14am On Feb 25, 2016|
This is my standard.
We don't do time stamp but I can tell date based on surroundings.
Ronald "Trust but verify" Reagan
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by EgunMogaji: 5:19am On Feb 25, 2016|
I have smartphones for key players on my site. I can recharge the phones from here.
It will be a miracle if I don't do borehole next month. I'm sick of the yanga from the water folks.
Take your time. One of the beauties of all this concrete blocks is that you can leave them for a while unlike wood.
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by FIRIKI(m): 5:21am On Feb 25, 2016|
My Bro! Baba God is with you all the way. He will provide the funds to complete your project. Stay focused and determined. I don join class!
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by bzm7: 2:24pm On Feb 25, 2016|
Congrats Hon. Mayor78.
For those yet to begin, receive GRACE.....
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by bzm7: 2:25pm On Feb 25, 2016|
And if its do-able try and get someone else to check.....I no say make him spy oh
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by frakdon(m): 9:33pm On Feb 25, 2016|
Mayor78 well done, but take your time...
and when its time for aluminium windows, please call on me?
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Mayor78: 3:31am On Feb 26, 2016|
Na so my brother na jeje move I dey from onset.
Thanks for your encouragements brother! I'm definitely on the watch out of your moves helping me to learn fast from guys already bearing the brunt. I have planted a smartphone on his hand. Hajji M say pictures must come with background, no story. Smartphone Na virtual spy. Thanks a mill bruv!
FIRIKI:Thanks Firiki for your prayer, I need them badly my man.
bzm7:Yeah, I already have one friend on the trail. Many thanks!
frakdon:Thanks Frakdon, the journey still far but noted.
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by gabbytabby: 4:12am On Feb 26, 2016|
Congrats and watcing this space.
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Mayor78: 4:30am On Feb 26, 2016|
Having sent my friend to get me a quote for cement, sand and labour for moulding, he came back and his quote are as follows;
Bag of cement N1350 (Onitsha price)
Trip of Sand N8’500
Moulded block N140 each 9” hole, and N120 each 6” hole
Moulding cost N750 per bag 9” hole
There was significant variation in the cost of sharp sand. My cousin paid N12,000 per trip, where as My friend quoted N8,500. A difference of N3,500 per trip - very major!!! Extra 2 bags of cement comfortable there per trip of sand. Wao! My cousin has bought seven trips already. At onset I have already lost N24,500.
Well I swung into action to do trial purchase. I sent money to my friend for two trips of sharp sand and told my brother to confirm if it is the same quality and load with what he is being supplied. My friend got a tipperman and delivered the sand and my cousin confirmed it is full load and very much the same. I instruct that henceforth all sands should be bought through my friend’s source. Period.
I have also asked my friend to moblise the moulding labour, he will be doing so tomorrow. I will send moulding money to my cousin to sort the moulders so that he can have leverage over the workers enabling appropriate supervision. I have told him to monitor what they do and do not pay any messer.
When I told my brother of current price of cement @N1350 at Onitsha, he said it will be better to buy local especially now that he got it at N1450. He reasoned that the cost of loading and offloading including transport to and from Onitsha a journey of about 45mins baring traffic will offset the savings we may achieve. He also points that it would be easier for him to access cements from the local supplier if they run-out before money arrive. I agreed with him but warned him not to request for any cement at anytime without my consent. I want to avoid much story.
I have requested quotes for rods, Y16' 12, 10 and 8 as well as 3/4" stone, laterite, binding wire, peg, headpan, 3" and 2" bag of nails. Both from my friend and my cousin. Anybody around Onitsha axis can please provide me with quotes as well please. I will provide the result when I have the quotes.
They started moulding blocks today, he said he employed 3 moulders including himself making it four moulders. They used up 14 bags of cement today. He will count the blocks and give me the number tmoro.
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Mayor78: 4:57am On Feb 26, 2016|
Update on expenditure
Smartphone - N15,000
Trips of sharpsand x2@8,500 - 17000 (Although I sent N22,870 to my friend) he keeps the change off course.
It was essential to add the smartphone as it was part of tools for the project.
N15,000 + N17,000 = N32,000
N32,000 + N208,600 = N240,600
Assuming I add the balance change of N5,870 (N22,870 - N17,000) from the money sent to my friend it would have brought the total cost to N246,470. But again adding it as part of expenses is debatable. Would I have given him that money if I was on ground, in that circumstance, No. Did I benefit from that tip, Yes, considering future savings to be made from his price verifications. Again if I am on ground, I may have spent more than that on him by stealth, lunch, shak up etc! So is the change part of project expenditures? The jury is out!
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Mayor78: 5:01am On Feb 26, 2016|
gabbytabby:Thanks Gabito! Welcome here
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by idris4r83(m): 6:32am On Feb 26, 2016|
Instead of buying tanks of water why not digging a well and procure a small water pumping machine and a gp tank for storage just as oga spider did. It will be better and cheaper in terms of the cost. One thing that you can't do without in a construction site is water.
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|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Mayor78: 6:46am On Feb 26, 2016|
idris4r83:Thanks for the idea Idris, I have included borehole in my medium-term plan. The site is really on the hillside, experiences around the area will allign more to drilling a borehole than digging a well because those that engage in the later often didn't succeed after wasting money. I will go for borehole but not now. The cost they are quoting will get the project to motivating level before compulsory works sets in. I had two GP tanks of 1,000 litres each onsite. But your suggestion is bang on the money, water supply is essential in building site. I may have to do something fast about it.
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by EgunMogaji: 10:30am On Feb 26, 2016|
It's not only the cost of water delivery that irks me, it's the aloofness in Ibadan.
They make it seem as if they're selling gold and doing you a favor
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by twinskenny(m): 10:57am On Feb 26, 2016|
not bad so far.... ride on sir
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Mayor78: 4:56am On Feb 27, 2016|
twinskenny:Thanks you Oga
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by Mayor78: 5:31am On Feb 27, 2016|
I was informed that the moulders (combined four people) between them used up 14 bags of cement and achieved a total of 527 blocks, that's about 37 blocks. We agreed 30 and maximum of 35 blocks per bag. My cousin insist it is still very OK.
I got quote for materials as follows
Y16 - N1,870
Y12 - N1040
Y10 - N850
Y8 - 680
Bundle Binding wire - N5,500
Bundle Pegg - N2,000
5" nail - N6,000/bag
6" nail - N6,000/bag
Prices are from Awka market and the supplier will deliver free and cash on delivery. Supplier is used to supplying my cousin and fellow artisans and are know to them.
The price is not too different from what my friend got from his market research at Onitsha. I consideer his quotes too be marginally lower but cost of transport, loading and offloading again will offset any difference.
Y16 - N1,850,
Y12 - N950
Tinding wire N5,000 and
Transport cost is N20,000 from Onitsha, all excluding cost of loading and offloading.
I would consider the Awka price a better deal except otherwise.
I learnt from here we have imported and Nigeria iron rods, which one is better, and does the prices vary. What attributes does genuine iron rods have? Please someone help with some explanations. Is there somebody here with better quote for the above materials, please tender your quotes as well. Thanks
|Re: Applying Lessons From Nairaland To Micro-manage Building 5BDR Duplex From Abroad by idris4r83(m): 12:28pm On Feb 27, 2016|
Mayor78:35pcs of blocks per bag of cement? That's outrageous. It's damn too dare o. If it's 35pcs it's better to buy engine compressed blocks cos the price will even b cheaper. Anything short of 50pcs of 9inches blocks per bag is a loss. At least 50 should b target point per bag if not then no gain sir.
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