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Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by Nobody: 1:36am On Jul 22, 2009
olabowale:

$Osisi quitely forgot Mulim College Ijebu Ode and others! White the misionaries enslave the Nigerians, they covered that with few secondary school institutions,to shot the people up! Later on, it is the muslim with few Chrsitians that advocated for getting away fro under the yoke of the slave master Christians of England! And it wa a big fight! The rejects of England lording over the masses of Nigeria. From among the Nigerians you have royal bloods, nobilities and good and decent ordinary people, controlled by the Cocney speaking backwater personnels dent by Britain's Crown!

If the Christians were so kind, like any prophet, should they arrive in our society, on our shores and rape our lands, treasures and our language a they did? Omo girl, I dont know how you define kindness, that aint it to me!

Finally, as a Dr., you aught to know what Islam had made the muslims do in the field of Medicine.Check you usual resources again; the Wikipedia! Did Benjamin Franklin engineered electricity because he was researching it based on the Biblical inquiries? Or did Alexander Gramm Bell did his telephone experiment because of his Christianity? How about Thomas Edison, or Isaac Newton, etc? Christianitry played no role except pillages.

Whereas Islam from Quran through challenge at humans, and the muslim might have answered all, the Christian individuals are part of humanity! Thats that.

what is all this nonsense? grin
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by Nobody: 5:21am On Jul 22, 2009
see these willing vassals making


You may find out that Islamic slavery in Africa and Asia of modern times preceeded the Portuguese transatlantic slave trade and continued/continues more than a century after slavery had been abolished in the rest of the world
who again were the abolitionists
The quakers
what were they?
Christians Wink


there is no need to rehash the fact that nothing in the bible condemns slavery. as you people like to say, if its not in the bible, its not applicables. the quakers were acting on morals that your bible does not engender.no be paul ewy return runaway slave?

abi you forget about jesus and the centurion? he had a golden opportunity to condemn slavry right there, but some cat had his tongue


see as these frauds reinvent their religion to make it popular tongue
its no wonder someone felt the need to abolish slavery, considering the level christians elevated it to tongue

what a fraud you are. Look at the south, compare it to the north . . . then tell me that education that came with christian missionaries was a bondage. If not for those missionaries you'd be like the almajiri in the north. Thanks to those you claim came to subjugate us with first class education . . . you can sit infront of a PC and type nonsense. Try asking your local mallam in Kano to write his name in english.


slow thinker - what was the intention behind it? you would have fit quite nicely into that arrangement. you do have all the makings of a latter day house nigger
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by Nobody: 5:41am On Jul 22, 2009
as davidylan would say

a much better word for the quakers would be 'christians' since nothing they did was contained in the bible.

i can understand their conscienec though. someone would fell disturbed by the industrial strenght slavery that the white christians were practising cry cry cry
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by hadancome: 10:33am On Jul 22, 2009
@ALL
Religious fanatics on NL, what is the correlation between this topic and the kingdom of God? you all are supposed to tell yourself abt God and all you know abt the prophets instead of all this.hav u all think abt death and its occurrence,if u die now did u all know Ur place before GOD? u are all here arguing over what is not.Its high time u stop this irritating issue.
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by Nobody: 6:14pm On Jul 22, 2009
osisi cat got your tongue smiley

no be you begin dey yarn op about abolition?

at least you have tacitly admitted your falsehood - that Christian values are what led to the abolition of slavery. as an side - some say that the centurion i referred to was not only the master of the slave, but his pederast lover - and Jesus had nothing to say about that either cry cry hmm. . .

we can all see what christianity has done for naija - people sitting in churches giving theior money to men of god who promise them worldly success , instead of hustling . everything pray pray pray , not so tongue tongue
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by noetic2: 6:20pm On Jul 22, 2009
oyb:

osisi cat got your tongue smiley

no be you begin dey yarn op about abolition?

at least you have tacitly admitted your falsehood - that Christian values are what led to the abolition of slavery. as an side - some say that the centurion i referred to was not only the master of the slave, but his pederast lover - and Jesus had nothing to say about that either cry cry hmm. . .

we can all see what christianity has done for naija - people sitting in churches giving theior money to men of god who promise them worldly success , instead of hustling . everything pray pray pray , not so tongue tongue

what are u driving at?
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by okgerald(m): 11:01pm On Jul 22, 2009
Christianity is making creflo dollars out of nigerian pastors so they can acquire private jets when 99 percent of the congregation lives on less than a dollar per day. undecided

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Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by Nobody: 11:02pm On Jul 22, 2009
ok.gerald:

Christianity is making creflo dollars out of nigerian pastors so they can acquire private jets when 99 percent of the congregation lives on less than a dollar per day. undecided

and what good has islam brought to Nigeria?
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by PureLogic: 11:44pm On Jul 22, 2009
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3 pages. . .and these ignorant Islamists still can't name ONE benefit their religion has brought to Nigeria? What sort of religion is this? What a shame! cry
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by cold(m): 11:51pm On Jul 22, 2009
PureLogic:

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3 pages. . .and these ignorant Islamists still can't name ONE benefit their religion has brought to Nigeria? What sort of religion is this? What a shame! cry

My broda,i just tire for these people.I'v given up engaging them in any intellectual debate.The moment they think they are being boxed into a corner they pull out ther machetes screaming Allahu Akbar & gunning for the jugular.
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by littleb(m): 1:13am On Jul 23, 2009
davidylan:

and what good has islam brought to Nigeria?
As long as there is no community where immorality,cruel,ignorance is praise or regard as a soceital norms,Islam has contributed the same way any other societal sects that base their belief in worshiping GOD and not solely for personal profit would contribute.

The major essence of having a religion is to bring people close to GOD, thereby nurturing younger ones to produce better community in the future, not but beacuse they are GOD fearing. Religion contribution in any society is to bring up a moral values and exercise roles in contributing to societal norms in politics, religious education and health sectors. Muslims and Islamic Organisations have contributed in all these faces of development. There are muslim hospitals, Islamic schools, organisations, organising relligious camping for moral and ideological training. There are charitable organisation and forums channeling towards helping the disables and less priviledge ones. In achieving all these, Islam maintain a moderate Islamic method in genrating funds and resources which is most base on voluntary. Moreso, the resources is everly used mainly for the purpose and never for the Imam, thereby provide accountability and justice, the same way as depicted by JESUS and prophet MUHAMMAD. NOt in situation where the leaders only profiting and enjoying affluence while followers in poverty.

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Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by Jarus(m): 9:56am On Jul 23, 2009
Question: Mention one good thing Islam has done to Nigeria
Jarus' answer:
HIGHER MORAL STANDARD Islam has brought higher moral standard to areas in Nigeria that it dominates, and even in areas where Muslims are minority, they are rated high in moral standards. This tells a lot on the country. Mind you, I'm not saying all Muslims rank high on moral scale but it has almost become automatic, sub-consciously, for people to respect you in some aspects of morality because you are a Muslim. Some disappoint, while many actually live up to or at least near expectation.
Alcohol and its attendant vices, sexual perversion and its numerous children, prostitution, betrayal, insincerity in dealings, especially business, etc are less rampant in Muslim dominated areas. I'm not saying they don't exist, but somehow, Muslims have more restraints.
Muslims are so much respected for their high level of morality that when a Muslim, especially somebody known to be one, does something bad, the first thing even a non-Muslim will say is ". . . but he's a Muslim now?" in a disappointing tone. In other words, overtime, Muslims have come to be ranked high on morality scale. Even the lowest-faithed Muslims are known to hesitate before drinking alcohol. In fact, the only thing some people observe in Islam is not taking alcohol.

We can all imagine how bad our society would have been if Islam had not restrained many nigerians from bad practices.

This is just my own contribution. I don't have the strenght of Olabs, oyb or Babs to engage you people in long arguments. This is my answer to the poster's question, I'm not bothered on whether she accepts it or not.

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Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by PureLogic: 10:05am On Jul 23, 2009
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Hahaha, "high moral standard" indeed!!! What's high moral standard in forcing underage girls into early marriage just because muhammed married a 6 year old? What's "high moral standard" in encouraging polygamy? What's high moral standard in encouraging people to kill and destroy for Allah? What's high moral standard in promising people plenty of sex and booze in paradise? What's high moral standard in stoning people in the name of sharia when even the stoners recite astragafurulahi almost every minute? Or do you want to deny that these things are rampant in Islamic states? Abeg stop these meaningless claims!

Besides, what's the point of "high moral standard" when people remain intellectually backward? Go to places in Nigeria where Islam is the dominant religion and see the high level of illiteracy and maladies! cool
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by PureLogic: 10:12am On Jul 23, 2009
And if Islam truly encourages "high moral standard" why is it that Islamists can't control themselves at the slightest provocation? Why do they go about killing and destroying mostly after friday PRAYERS?? Is this what you call high moral standard?

December 11, 2008 - Nigeria : Six Pastors Killed, 40 Churches Razed in Jos Violence

February 12, 2008 - Nigeria : Spurned Suitor Triggers Violence

December 13, 2007 - Nigeria : Church Struggles to Survive in Muslim-run State

December 13, 2007 - Nigeria : Ten Killed, Three Churches Set Ablaze in Bauchi

November 28, 2007 - Nigeria : Report Obscures Muslim Murders in Kano Riot

November 26, 2007 - Nigeria : Christian Killed in Election Violence in Kano State

October 24, 2007 - Nigeria : Muslim Officials Dismiss Christians from Posts

October 22, 2007 - Nigeria : Two Christians Murdered in Kaduna

October 10, 2007 - Nigeria : Muslim Threat to Attack Church Raises Tensions

October 05, 2007 - Nigeria : Ten Christians Killed in Muslim Rampage in Kano State

January 08, 2007 - World : Compass Direct News’ Top 10 Stories of 2006

October 16, 2006 - Nigeria : Teacher on Trial after Punishing Muslim Student

September 25, 2006 - Nigeria : Muslim Youths Destroy 10 Churches

July 10, 2006 - Nigeria : Islamic Violence Paralyzes Teenager, Churches

February 24, 2006 - Nigeria : Muslims Set Ablaze Nine Churches in Niger State

February 20, 2006 - Nigeria : Cartoon Protest Violence Spreads to Nigeria

January 10, 2006 - World : Compass Direct’s Top 10 News Stories of 2005

November 15, 2005 - Nigeria : Islam’s Power Grab in Niger State

November 01, 2005 - Nigeria : Muslim Attacks Incite Violence in Niger State

October 19, 2005 - Nigeria : The Kano Experience: Life Under Sharia

September 23, 2005 - Nigeria : Digging Up the Roots of Persecution in Plateau State, Nigeria

July 29, 2005 - Nigeria : Northern Leaders Implore President to End Sharia

Display of news from 26 to 44 on 44


April 26, 2005 - Nigeria : Church Forced to Move Headquarters

February 07, 2005 - Nigeria : Peace-keeping Soldiers Kill Christian Woman

January 18, 2005 - Nigeria : Christians Criticize Government Report on Religious Violence

January 14, 2005 - World : The Top 10 from Compass Direct

October 13, 2004 - Nigeria : Muslim Militants Threaten to Kill Christian Nurses

May 14, 2004 - Nigeria : Muslim ‘Protest’ Turns Deadly

May 19, 2003 - Nigeria : Governor-Elect Promises Revolutionized Islamic Law

June 21, 2002 - Nigeria : Christians Face a Variety of Problems

December 14, 2001 - Nigeria : Commission Orders Arrests of Church Leaders

August 24, 2001 - Nigeria : Thirty Killed in Religious Conflict

August 24, 2001 - Nigeria : Frustration, Retaliation Fuel Violence

July 20, 2001 - Nigeria : More Than 200 Churches Destroyed

December 15, 2000 - Nigeria : State Government’s Committee Rejects Islamic Law

October 20, 2000 - Nigeria : Twenty-Five Killed in Religious Violence

September 22, 2000 - Nigeria : Muslim Countries Offer to Help with Islamic Law

September 22, 2000 - Nigeria : Christians Protest Islamization

March 17, 2000 - Nigeria : Hundreds Killed during Religious Conflicts

March 17, 2000 - Nigeria : Calls for Reconciliation

March 17, 2000 - Nigeria : Riot Erupts in Sokoto


Why should violence occur more in places where there is "high moral standard"? Shouldn't that tell you something about the real essence of Islam? undecided
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by littleb(m): 11:47am On Jul 23, 2009
PureLogic:

And if Islam truly encourages "high moral standard" why is it that Islamists can't control themselves at the slightest provocation? Why do they go about killing and destroying mostly after friday PRAYERS?? Is this what you call high moral standard?


Why should violence occur more in places where there is "high moral standard"? Shouldn't that tell you something about the real essence of Islam? undecided


There is relgious crisis everywhere causing by many factors. Ask yourself and be sincere, who are those causing violent. Where do you think peace we come when there is no justice. The principle behind every violent need to be rooted to the cause, that is when you can judge and not by media caption. Most of the media caption are unbalanced. Recently, there was a report of military camp in Kaduna full all newspaper which was not true. Amongst the rsponses of Islmic movement is follows:
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RE: TERRORISTS’ CAMP IN KADUNA.

By A. Danladi, Phd.

It was interesting reading your editorial on the above at the same time disappointing .The Kaduna state commissioner of police Mr, Tambari Mohamed Yabo wrote “intelligent report” to the Inspector General of police Mr. Mike Okiro alleging what you paper carried as an editorial. The report has since been described as false and baseless by the Islamic movement in a press conference conducted by the leader Sheikh Ibraheem Zakzaky.

At the press conference, both print and electronic media were widely represented and at the end were taken round the premises of Fudiyya Islamic Centre and not Faddiya Islamic Centre which the “intelligent” commissioner of police claimed. They have seen each and every corner of the centre and were not surprised to find nothing near to what Mr. Tambari has claimed because they are based in Kaduna and are fully aware of his nefarious activities. Similarly they paid a visit to the acclaimed training centre at Dambo village where they were short of words in describing their concern over the baseless allegations of Tambari.

Fudiyyah Islamic Centre is a place where Sheikh Ibraheem Zakzaky delivers Tafsir (commentary on the Holy Qur’an) and conducts lessons from the book Nahjul Balagah. Other activities of the Islamic movement include: public lectures, short courses, production of Islamic songs to mention a few. The centre has a multi-purpose hall, dormitory, library, computer room and offices of some arms of the movement. It is therefore surprising that such a place that is always over crowded with people could be alleged to be the printing place where Al-Mizan and The Pointer Express news papers are being produced which only the commissioner of police and his “intelligent” cohorts know of. Indeed it is the actions of people like Mr. Tambari who are supposed to be protecting the public that will portray the image of this country “in bad light” not the non- existent films which only he claims to be aware of.

If only Mr. Tambari’s sources are objective in their reports, he would have known that to the people of Dambo, the citation of the film village at their environ is a blessing. It has made their village a popular centre of tourist’s attraction, with people trooping in to see the classical traditional architectural structures erected for producing a film on the revered personality of Shiekh Usman bin Fodio. The bore hole at the film village now serves as source of drinking water to the friendly people of Dambo. It is in no way a training camp and centre of amassing arms as claimed by Tambari.

As for the claim that about 95% of Sheikh Zakzaky’s followers are not from Kaduna state. Yabo needs to know that Islam has no state. Indeed it has no geographical boundary as the earth and the heavens belong to Allah and Allah alone and the religion of Islam is a universal religion that is made for the guidance of mankind where ever he may find himself. If Yabo can come to Kaduna state to serve Nigeria what makes him think that Muslims cannot come to Kaduna state to serve Allah? That is if his assertion is true or correct.

Both Fudiyyah Islamic Centre at Danmagaji and the Film village at Dambo have been in existence long before the coming of Governor Namadi Sambo’s regime. They had never constituted any security threat to the peace loving people of Zaria and Kaduna state. Then why is Tambari trying to beat the “tambari” of discord?

Now to the punch newspaper, it is surprising to have issued Mr. Tambari’s unfortunate insinuations as its editorial. It shows clearly your camp. I believe such a popular paper of repute is supposed to be objective and balanced in its reports talk less of editorials. I was left wondering when the punch has turned to be Kaduna state police bulletin.

Dr. Abdullahi Danladi.

Resource Forum,

Islamic Movement in Nigeria.
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PureLogic:

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[s]Hahaha, "high moral standard" indeed!!! What's high moral standard in forcing underage girls into early marriage just because muhammed married a 6 year old?[/s] What's "high moral standard" in encouraging polygamy? [s]What's high moral standard in encouraging people to kill and destroy for Allah?[/s] What's high moral standard in promising people plenty of sex and booze in paradise? What's high moral standard in stoning people in the name of sharia when even the stoners recite astragafurulahi almost every minute? Or do you want to deny that these things are rampant in Islamic states? Abeg stop these meaningless claims!

I strike those one out to expose your lies. And if you damm think you have proof, just come on board. There is polygamy in Islam. There were example in the past, check your bible and you will find it amongst God's prophet. But you encourage indecency, concubine, prostitution, nudity e.t.c.

Even the angels know Sharia is a muslim life, you don't need to consult oracle, wherever it is used is peaceful.

Besides, what's the point of "high moral standard" when people remain intellectually backward? Go to places in Nigeria where Islam is the dominant religion and see the high level of illiteracy and maladies! cool

And wherever there is no Islam, there is a very high immorality, indecency, lack of respect, gross criminalities, ungodly acts, high murdering! I think you are enslaved with western ideology. You need to wake up man and be objective!

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Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by alimat2(f): 3:41pm On Jul 23, 2009
hadancome:

@ALL
Religious fanatics on NL, what is the correlation between this topic and the kingdom of God? you all are supposed to tell yourself abt God and all you know abt the prophets instead of all this.hav u all think abt death and its occurrence,if u die now did u all know Ur place before GOD? u are all here arguing over what is not.Its high time u stop this irritating issue.


I think we should all ponder n dis instaed of unnecessary argument
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by gen2genius(m): 6:35pm On Jul 23, 2009

There is relgious crisis everywhere causing by many factors

LIAR! Religious crisis occurs only where there's a higher percentage of muslims. You know the truth; you're just shying away from it. In which other parts of the country does religious violence occur apart from the North?

Where do you think peace we come when there is no justice. The principle behind every violent need to be rooted to the cause, that is when you can judge and not by media caption.

Oh, so your violent actions are sometimes justified? So, your beastly attitude of killing and destroying for flimsy reasons is for peace and "justice" to reign? Anyway, that's what Allah taught you. Isn't that what you call "Jihad"? So why are you denying it?


I strike those one out to expose your lies. And if you damm think you have proof, just come on board.

I said it before that you're a pathological liar. Are you claiming that forced marriages don't occur in the North regularly? Are you saying young girls are not married off to old men for pecuniary reasons? Where do they learn it from if not from Muhammed's romance with a 6 year old?

I think you are enslaved with western ideology. You need to wake up man and be objective!

And be objective about what? That Islam brought other benefits to Nigeria apart from senseless killings and maiming and marrying off innocent girls to shameless old men in the name of allah the "beneficent and merciful"?

Islam is nothing but forced submission to backwardness and violence!
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by Nobody: 8:43pm On Jul 23, 2009
Jarus:

Question: Mention one good thing Islam has done to Nigeria
Jarus' answer:
HIGHER MORAL STANDARD Islam has brought higher moral standard to areas in Nigeria that it dominates, and even in areas where Muslims are minority, they are rated high in moral standards. This tells a lot on the country. Mind you, I'm not saying all Muslims rank high on moral scale but it has almost become automatic, sub-consciously, for people to respect you in some aspects of morality because you are a Muslim. Some disappoint, while many actually live up to or at least near expectation.
Alcohol and its attendant vices, sexual perversion and its numerous children, prostitution, betrayal, insincerity in dealings, especially business,  etc are less rampant in Muslim dominated areas. I'm not saying they don't exist, but somehow, Muslims have more restraints.
Muslims are so much respected for their high level of morality that when a Muslim, especially somebody known to be one, does something bad, the first thing even a non-Muslim will say is ". . . but he's a Muslim now?" in a disappointing tone. In other words, overtime, Muslims have come to be ranked high on morality scale. Even the lowest-faithed Muslims are known to hesitate before drinking alcohol. In fact, the only thing some people observe in Islam is not taking alcohol.

We can all imagine how bad our society would have been if Islam had not restrained many nigerians from bad practices.

This is just my own contribution. I don't have the strenght of Olabs, oyb or Babs to engage you people in long arguments. This is my answer to the poster's question, I'm not bothered on whether she accepts it or not.

Jarus pls stop peddling this unfound nonsense.  grin Where is the "higher moral standard" islam has brought? Infact i must say that the 1 yr i spent serving in Yola was the time i saw the loosest girls ever. No kidding, i actually knew a couple of muslim girls fighting over a fellow corp member . . . i knew many chics who would give anything to sleep with a dude from Lagos.

High moral standard = multiple wives, immature child brides (note the high incidence of vvf in the north), violence and the doctrine of al taqiya? Sorry, i'd rather have a lower moral standard. the worst government looters are muslim northerners, virtually ALL coup de tats have been by muslim northerners, religious violence is pretty much a muslim invention . . .

The only thing the muslims in nigeria have given us is a refusal to drink alchohol?  cheesy grin My guy this is an insult to all muslims worldwide.

The fact that 3 pages after none of you has been able to give us one concrete thing islam has brought to nigeria is a huge shame!

Until recently America and much of Europe was almost 0% muslim . . . so you think there is a higher moral standard in Saudi Arabia than Norway? cheesy You people are a huge joke.
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by olabowale(m): 10:02pm On Jul 23, 2009
@Davidylan: It was arrival to the shores o america that actually defined Islam and its "higher Morals" to me. Long time before HIV/AIDS complex disease that took many lives; The up and coming black fashion designers; Willie Smith of Philadelphia (Tokie's kid brither), the France based, dungarees wearing with straw hat longerie designer from Alabama, Novelist Baldwin, ABCNEWS London chied bureau Max Robinson, just to name a few, and from the whites; martinee male sex symbol mega actor Rock Hudson, Singer Libarace, Sing Mercury Morris, are just what I can tell you off hands. None of them was a muslim.

Those who go to bath houses in the 70s, and even after that, when cracy became an epidemic as a form of user sickness, most of them were non-muslims. I lived in Muslim community for a while and I see how 180 degrees the changes are in the lives of those who used to be hardcore in the evils they used to do, until Islam. And as to your Yola experience, no one will say that there are no bad apples in Islam. If you see a loose woman in Islam, 7 loose women will be around the corner, who are not Muslim.

I have a young woman in my family who is currently in the "Camp" somewhere outside the city of Ondo! She was shocked to see young University graduates leaving, every morning from the quarters of the military boys; their barracks! She was besides herself at these college educated women sleeping wit "less than high school" educated men in Uniform! Why she asked; for foods, or what favor?


I remember many years ago, say 8 years or a couple less that Africa Abroad of theis guy "Kba" wrote an article about prostitutions of women in Eo! The commissioner of health at that time was a woman, who happened to be muslim, responded that if you look at the population of the "overseas prostitutes" from Nigeria, the Muslims from Edo hardly participated, while the highest per state prostitutes is Edo State! Why was it that Idia, from Benin, Shakira from Auchi, etc are not among them? The reason is Islam!


Aburo, an it is Islam that moralised me. When I was in college, a bunch of Nigerian men will be running around the Job Corps girls and the rejects of America; white and blacks and spanish! All of them, with a stick of few cigarettes, and a 40 ozers, you could get them. The nigerian Christians used to do it, and even though my reflection against it was partially because of my bloodline, I knew Islam was the major reason that my heart did not go there. When you speak of morality, is there a comparison between the light of islam and the other(s)? Look around Rochester and see who are the easy pickings!

When you see muslims behaving badly, he/she is trying to copy your lifestyle. But they forgot Jesus covered you already, while they have to answer to the The God that does not die or sleeps and always complete, able to do all things.
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by reindeer: 11:15pm On Jul 23, 2009
Guys,
I think its practical to take a trip to islam dominated areas to confirm these contributions, i have had experience in lagos island,go there and see for yourself.Islam may actually have those 'higher ideals' as being claimed by some on this forum, but realities on the ground in nigeria are just a stark contrast from all claimed, the list is endless, from Zamfara, to Ilorin, to Ibadan, what we have is violence, backwardness, child marriages and illiteracy.Its no wonder that if you enter any motor park in the souhtwestern part of Nigeria, the names you'll hear will usually be the fatais, ahmeds and lukmons. grin
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by olabowale(m): 4:49pm On Jul 24, 2009
@reindeer: When we go to Christian dominated areas in Nigeria, we still find the Fatais and Lukmons in there? Let see, I will take Ekiti state as my example, for if I go to igboland, a almost 95% christian dominated part of Nigeria, some may think that I am a tribalist. Ok, in Ekiti state, in their motor parks/garages, do we have all muslims or mostly christians? Whats wrong with this Ekiti state picture if my opinion is true?

And reindeer, is there abject poverty, etc in Ekiti state, too? Indeed the whole of Nigeria. No? If I have to accept what you are saying, it may be assumed that there is muslim success story in yoruba land and all the educated people and the successful, including the wealthy are all Christians. No?

Here is a what I say; Is there anything good brought to Nigeria, by Christianity? And before you answer; is there anything good that was brought to Nigeria by the Christians, solely because of their christendom, except the Bible an effort of conversion? Did England dominate nigeria for christianity or for their national pride which included pillaging of our people and our God-given natural resources? Can you imagine the picture of Nigeria, if Oil was properly discovered still under Colonnializm, say 1920? Lol. These christians in their effort to look good, they rob stench on themselves.

Below is how Dutch Christian treated African Ghanaian King just 170 years ago! General News of Friday, 24 July 2009


Dutch return head of Ghana king

NEW. Watch live television from Ghana, the latest Ghanaian movies and OBE TV.

Dutch officials have handed back to Ghana the head of a king who was executed by colonists in the 1830s. Tribal elders led a ceremony in The Hague to hand over the head of Badu Bonsu II, stored in formaldehyde in a Dutch museum for 170 years. The king, who was leader of the Ahanta group, is believed to have been decapitated in retaliation for the killing of two Dutch emissaries.
Some believe the king would not be at rest unless his head was returned. Several Ghanaian traditional leaders - including a descendant of the king - held an emotional ritual during the handover at the Dutch foreign ministry. AFP news agency reported that they poured alcohol on the floor of the conference room while invoking the chief's spirit.

"It is because of the injustice meted out to our people that our great king, who was fighting for his people, was murdered," said Nana Kwekwe Darko III, who led the ceremony.

The Dutch foreign ministry said in a statement that King Bonsu had killed two Dutch officials in 1838 and was "handed over by his own nation" to colonialists. 'Hunted in the afterlife' Arthur Japin, a Dutch author who researched King Bonsu, says the head was brought to the Netherlands, possibly by mistake, shortly after the king was killed.

A Dutch general had been asked to bring back "heads" from Ghana to be studied by a famous phrenologist - a scientist who believes the character of a person can be determined by the shape of the skull. "He probably meant just some drawings of different types of people but the general took this literally and he took the head and put it in formaldehyde and put it on the ship," Mr Japin told the BBC's Focus on Africa programme. During the voyage home the general died, and he too was preserved in formaldehyde. On the expedition's return, King Bonsu's head was given to the Leiden University Medical Centre, where it has been ever since. After hearing of the head's location in 2008, Ghana filed a request for its return, saying if it remained unburied, the king would be incomplete and therefore "hunted in the afterlife". The traditional leaders are due to return to Ghana with the head on Friday.

PIC: Ahanta tribal chief Nana Etsin Kofi II, center, signs a document as Dutch Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen, second from right, looks on, during a ceremony at the Dutch Foreign Ministry in The Hague, Netherlands, Thursday, July 23, 2009. The family of an African chief who was hanged and decapitated by a Dutch general 171 years ago reluctantly accepted his severed head Thursday, visibly angry at a violation of tribal protocol as the Dutch tried to right an historical wrong. (AP Photo/Rob Keeris)

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Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by reindeer: 11:01pm On Jul 25, 2009
alhaji

cannot dispute the fact that some of the early missionaries were misguided in their approach, but you'll agree with me too that the killing of twins was stopped by a missionary too , also so many schools in the southern part of the country had their origins in the catholic church, same with hospitals etc,
that being said,the topic is still about what islam has contributed, and im yet to convincingly see much good apart from the stark disinterest in 'western education' and a high dropout rate from schools with its attendant ills, early marriages and teenage pregnancy, touting etc

really didn't catch your drift about ekiti state!
I say again Alhaji, take a trip to nigeria, go to downtown lagos, visit ibadan, go to ilorin, abeokuta etc motor parks are still largely populated by moslems(or at least those bearing such names).
The northern part of the country is largely backward as of today because of same disinterest in education, not enrolling females in school and the ravage of preventable diseases, its so bad that the north has made nigeria into a reservoir of polio in the world!
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by olabowale(m): 11:36pm On Jul 25, 2009
@reindeer: I am a yoruba man! My whole family is yoruba from Ijebu Ode in Ogun State and Owo in ondo State! I speak Yoruba fluently. I even dream in it. Now what do we have in Igbo cities, towns and villages motor parks and garages; muslims are the people driving and the boys in it or igbo christians? Unless the Igbos are now predominantly Muslims in this case, then know that your characterization was more of your experience or disgenuous on this matter. I used Ekiti state intitailly until you forced me to use Igbo people who are clearly Christians! Definitely Lagos is more advanced and liveable than almost all cities and towns and obviously villages in Nigeria, except maybe Abuja.

You will have to agree with me that not all Hausas are illiterate. The President is Hausa and we know he is not an illiterate and if he is, then you the elites and pundits of Nigeria are actually the illiterates in your hearts, though you have University degrees. And the igbos are not 100% literate, either bcause the motor park garage boys are not all Ph. D. degrees holders!

Finally, the lack of Hausas in western style education enmasse is not based on Islam, but ethnical outlook. And I am sure that those who are not educated do not clearly follow Quranic and Prophetic tradition (ahadith) injuctions on this matter. Quran first verse says "Read/Proclaim/recite", and challenges mankind to pursue ediucation and research in order to discover the signs of Allah in ourselves and in nature, universe in the general sense of it. Muhammad (AS) said "seek knowledge, even if you have to go as far as China for it." In Madina when he made this statement, it was not an easy task to go to China and we see that China is still a distance journey, even today!

Thse muslims who are educated today, if it was not for islam and their heeding its injuction to pursue knowledge, they would never have been educated and could have remained ignorant for life! Islamic University on this planet exist long before the first University by the Christians. They, the Christians did not buld Universities in order to propagate Christianity, but to advance national advantage in a dishonest way, creating a first clas citizenry within a society and having this class in their own pockets so that they can use them to rule the people, the masses!


Have you never seen a Muslim Doctor from Nigeria, before? Have you seen non Muslim who is poor, in Nigeria, reindeer?

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Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by reindeer: 10:18pm On Jul 26, 2009
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Alhaji Sir

Of course The nigerian prez is educated(it will really be funny to have an uneducated one eg, Adedibu)

I have never lived nor even visited The eastern part of nigeria so i cant speak much about them.
My point is not that all illiterates are moslems, no. Its just that i have noticed how easy it is for illiteracy to thrive where islam dominates especially in africa.
It will be foolhardy or even outright dishonest to ascribe all illiteracy to islam.You have said the northern problem is more of an ethnic one and not religious, well,but nowadays its gonna be really hard to find a dividing line between the two.
When all is said and done sha, i believe you need to encourage muslims to go to school and learn, encourage them to send girls to school and depopulate the Lagos parks.
I personally have nothing against moslems, no(that will be an unGodly thing to do) My grouse is with retrogressive acts and behaviors that send humanity back into primal living.
Have a great week smiley
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by Nobody: 11:28pm On Jul 26, 2009
The only good thing I can think of right now about Islam is that their jihad helps control the world population, so the rest of us have enough resources to survive. Allah Arkbah. God is Great.
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by olabowale(m): 12:00am On Jul 27, 2009
@Kmcutez: Even in a gloomy day, there is a benefit for your mind, as you see it. There is no word that is equal/translates to infidel in the Quran. But in Timothy, you will find INFIDEL written there, on a page of the Bible. I guess the non-muslims are trying so hard to make Quran stink like their own books! Allah is truly Akbar!

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Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by olabowale(m): 12:05am On Jul 27, 2009
@reindeer: And before I casted my rod, you took the bait. My proof against you in africa, is South Africa! Look again. The poverty in there is not borne out of Islam. The Muslims are more Educated that the Christians there! Christianity does not have any word challenging anyone to learn, to undergo scholarship! Please, look at southern African countries, again.
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by olabowale(m): 12:09am On Jul 27, 2009
And thanks for the best wishes. I wish the same and more from my muslim heart. What a person does and ascribe it to something other than what it is truly is, is a lie.

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Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by sosisi(f): 4:12am On Jul 31, 2009
the best thing from Islam in the past 72 hrs is boca haram
Re: Mention One Good Thing That Islam Has Done To Nigeria And The World!!! by Nezan(m): 10:35am On Jul 31, 2009
$osisi:

the best thing from Islam in the past 72 hrs is boca haram
boko haram=NO to western education grin grin grin

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