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Dear folks, congarats for participating in the selection process. Mails will be sent your mail boxes, followed by text messages shortly.
Thank you.
2dmax.

Do get your best quotes for electrical wires and cables from maxndianaefo@yahoo.com.

na wao! Naira no get value again o!

do read up BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS WISE UP thread on the property section and get your best quotes/ask your questions about electrical wires and cables from maxndianaefo@yahoo.com.

@ kuntash, hope this will suffice? Cheers.

CAVEAT: THIS ELECTRICAL CABLE PICTURE SHOULD NOT BE REPRESENTED AS HAVING THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE POSTER! BUYERS BEWARE!

@oluwabamis, i have sent d reply to ur quest to ur box. Also pwendy/doozie/bubu/ odobodo/affi/prince/nwa don/okuku/indigu i have all sent u mails. Keep them coming!

Do get to know the 6 types of conductors passed for Cu used in electrical wires/cables (made-in-nigeria/imported inclusive)
Also get your best quotes for them via maxndianaefo@yahoo.com
Do read up BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS WISE UP! Thread @ d property section to curtail being ripped off!

Na wa o! Really good time arguing God knows what? @ all, do get your best quotes for electrical wires/cables from maxndianaefo@yahoo.com. Also read BUILDERS & DEVELOPERS WISE UP thread on the property section.

Gd mrng Sir. You will get a mail by monday.
Cheers!

Hello all, this opportunity have been officially closed by 1600 hrs today.

For those that notified thier interests, a general mail will be forwarded to you with all the instructions, and texts will forwarded to your phones too.

Thank you all.

2dmax

Hello Nlers! Still awaiting your mails. To those that have emailed, I will be replying tonite when internet connection are much better!

Later, house!

@ am alone, NOW u get my gist! Same for electrical wire and cables! Read up BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS WISE UP NOW!

@ kuntash, I have replied to your post. Do check it out, and encourage me more with your observations!

@ spyder, at long last. Ji sie ike, brother! Nothing do u!

@all, do get your best qoutes for wire/cables for your properties from maxndianaefo@yahoo.com.

Do post your mails so the 6 types of wire/cable in the market, their pros and cons and other infos can be forwarded to you. This is a public thread and I have been criticised a lot from peers and electricians alike! @am alone, I am yet to see your mail. It remains: maxndianaefo@yahoo.com

kuntash:
guy can u show some pictures? maybe they could help differentiate the good one from the bad ones or substandard ones

kuntash, nice observation and suggestion! But the truth of the matter is that even pictures wont do justice to what I actually what consumers to know. Reasons are a) the pictures will only show the coils, it wont show the conductors that is the bone contention. b) the pictures showing the coils will only show the brand of the coil, which is only one of the many cables (up to 70 types both imported and made in nigeria) currently in the market. c) that lucky coil(?) on the picture may be perceived as the best and consumers (knowing our penchant forr short cuts) may take to buying these brand posted, which will lead to the sellers cloning and rebranding other wire/cable as one pictured. So kuntash, inasmuch it may be deemed neccessary to post pictures, which I may still have to do, it is important to know the six different types of Cu used, their pros and cons, the dealers that sell the best cables that are imported, the differences between made in nigeria and the imported, etc. So sir, I feel I have an uphill task ahead, and replies like your will ginger me to eductae the public the little knowledge I have garnered. I already have a buyer come f rrom nairaland and after being told d prices, hee said the ones in his area is cheaper! well, he mayy have not read my posts!

March 11th, 2011. 1600hrs is the closing period.
Good luck.
2dmax

waow!

wow! Keep it coming!

@ spyder. Oga has the water crisis abated? Dis thing may derail your calculations o!

@ am alone, well done, e no easy o! House warning/opening, here we come o!

@ kuntash, eeeeehhhh! Well done sir! And here was I thinking am doing no favours! Will go to it and reply!

Sorry guys,

Rephrasing nos 1 and 2 above;

The bigger looking ones,

Thanks and expect more posts!

Maxndianaefo@yahoo.com.

@ am alone
This is generally due to both physical and financial stress u r undertaking @ d moment. But is well.

Check what u eat, because being @ sites allways disorganises people's diet! So make sure u bring ur food and take enough fluids.

You must surely complete that u have begun whether devil like am or not!

I hereby declare you and your pockets well in God's Name!!!!

@ am alone. Its ok. Email me for a possible date to meet.
Then I suggest you go ahead with Coleman. They are the cheapest made-in-nigeria wire/cables for now.
Awaiting your mail.

maxndianaefo@yahoo.com.

But dont u think u r on d wroung section? Try posting on property section! U r needed there!

Do send d pix to d mail address.

Tnx.

Hi guys. I'm back!

So going further, due to the fact that all cable manufacturer (both local and imported)has their different policies of deriving A x B x C (remember my last post?), there is no one uniform design on that!

Then, how do we get to avoid being cheated on point 2, some one may ask?

Answers:
1. Name/brands of coils and wires are normally printed on its pvc body. No one
Brand size should different from the other, ie all kabelmetal/coleman/liberty etc 1mm twin should be d same!

2. The bigger one is usually the adjusted one!

3. The bigger one ia also the cheaper one due to 2 above.

Let me post! U know, network!

Hhmmphh!

I had to wake up this early to post so as to avoid the internet quagmire.

Good morning House.

Adding to point 2 stated in my earlier post; a coil of wire/cable normally has 3 sides. That is seen when a coil is layed on the ground in this way : ---------->.

Kapish? Then lets move ahead.

Remember elementary arithmetic on how to check volume? Ideas anyone?!

L xB x H!

So do to the cylinder like shape of a coil, we suffice L x B x H to be A x B x C, where A is the length of the side of the coil from the ground up, denoted like this : |

B is then the radius size of the inner hole of the coil.

C is the length of the coil from the inner hole to the edge of the outer ring of the coil.

Damn let me post o, e be like say my network don start, will complete this later.

Good morning all.
@am alone. Pls google up BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS WISE UP! You need to read that thread and also you will get my email there. once i receive your mail, you will hear from so we can discuss on the day you may wish to come to d market, because I am always at sites supplying to various electricians and developers!
@ Roben
Coleman in made in nigeria, my quotes are for imported ones, though 100% cu guranteed. Do follow d above thread for eye opening disclosures. Thank u.

2dmax:
am alone,
her are the prices of coleman wires (they are made - in - nigeria) and about the cheapest nigeria made cables because they are tryin to get a foot hold in the market like kabelmetal/nigerchin/cutix etc.

These above are for Coeman as I said and they are 80 yds guranteed.

sorry 100 meters guranted.

2dmax:
am alone,
her are the prices of coleman wires (they are made - in - nigeria) and about the cheapest nigeria made cables because they are trying to get a foot hold in the market like kabelmetal/nigerchin/cutix etc.

These above are for Coleman as I said and they are 80 yds guranteed.

with the above @am alone, you can see that you were given quotations of wires/cables that are surely not made-in-nigeria.
@spyder, you with the most experience in building in this thread, do give us your candid observation.

am alone + all = while the made-in-Nigeria cables/wires are  adjudged to be the best (even though all this were done to improve marketability of the wires) the difference between Nigerian wires and the imported ones from INDIA, DUBAI, SINGAPORE, CHINA, KAZAKHSTAN is that SON charge them imported one excessively at the ports to discourage importation.

Simple.

This is a public thread and who knows who's reading?

Then compare again:

This is the quotation for the wires the electrician gave me.
                                                                                          COLEMAN               2DMAX
1mm 2 core Nigeria Cable ----------10 coil @ 3200               5,800                        2,900
1mm 3 core Nigeria Cable ----------2 coil @ 6000                 9,500                       5,450
1.5mm 3 core Nigeria Cable---------2 coil @ 7000                12,000                      7,800
2.5mm 3 core Nigeria Cable---------6 coil @ 8000                  20,500                    9,500
4mm 3 core Nigeria Calbe-----------1 Coil @ 24,000                 35,000                     21,000
16mm single cable -----------------2 coil @ 35,000                     38,000                     24,000
Cable or tv -----------------------3 coil @ 1400                              1,000                        1,000


Sorry Coleman and their likes doesnt manufacture tv wires so the earlier post of tv wire is my quote.
These are guaranteed 80 yards/73 metres and 100% Cu and ISO9001 certified.

am alone its high time you mail me so I can prepare you for the evnt you go to the market with the electrician.

Have you always heard, " ahhh! Oga, the wire no do, i think say e go reach am and i measure am well o!"

check out the thread BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS WISE UP!
Fishing tape ----------------------2 coil @ 1000      not my jurisdiction
Total ===== 206,200
workmanship =85,000
Grand total = 291,200

2dmax can be reached with maxndianaefo@yahoo.com

2dmax:
@2dmax

This is the quotation for the wires the electrician gave me.
COLEMAN
1mm 2 core Nigeria Cable ----------10 coil @ 3200 5,800
1mm 3 core Nigeria Cable ----------2 coil @ 6000   9,500
1.5mm 3 core Nigeria Cable---------2 coil @ 7000   12,000
2.5mm 3 core Nigeria Cable---------6 coil @ 8000   20,500
4mm 3 core Nigeria Calbe-----------1 Coil @ 24,000 35,000
16mm single cable -----------------2 coil @ 35,000 38,000
Cable or tv -----------------------3 coil @ 1400   1,000
Fishing tape ----------------------2 coil @ 1000   not my jurisdiction
Total ===== 206,200
workmanship =85,000
Grand total = 291,200

for only wiring o

@2dmax
pls give me your own quotation for the above

@am alone, PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS QUOTATIONS AND THE LENGTH INDICATES FULLY THAT THESE ARE NOT MADE-IN-NIGERIA CABLES!!! THE STANDARD SIZE OF LENGTH FOR NIGERIA STANDARD CABLES ARE 100M WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT OF 109 YARDS APPROX. MY QUOTATIONS FOLLOW NEXT.

am alone,
her are the prices of coleman wires (they are made - in - nigeria) and about the cheapest nigeria made cables because they are tryin to get a foot hold in the market like kabelmetal/nigerchin/cutix etc.

These above are for Coeman as I said and they are 80 yds guranteed.

At this junction, I must add that if you want to know the 6 different types of cu used in producing cables/wires, do mail me so i can send you the reply.

The heat on my shutting up is gearing up!

kind off! cinzo, how u dey?

@ Lawyer, intended to ask if I am breaking any laws, well you can give me a response at your free time.

2dmax:
Hello, everyone.

Sorry I was not available to update you, but then again, here I am.

In the name of copper (cu) ie, the main component used in producing pvc wire and cables for electrical works and wiring, there are 6 different versions of it!

yes! six different versions of it!

That is the main reason why there are different variations in prices of the all-called originals/ made-in-nigeria/china electrical wires and cables.

The 2nd reason,

bookmark this thread, for its coming soon.

Cheers all!

2dmax

Following up, the 2nd reason is how the coils of the wires/cables are being moulded. By that I mean, any particular coil will have a hole inside of it, ranging from 5 cm radius to 15 cm radius; depending on the type of wire and the size of it.
A wire/cable of 85 yards can be re moulded to look like and pass for a 100 yards type. a 100m cable can be remoulded into 2 coils of 65m look alike and sold for such.

All this translated that when you are disposed to meet with a dealer of true 80 yards standard cable/wire and he gives out his best price, you will likely tend to see a cloned 85 yards elsewhere at a better pricing which may likely fit your budget!

So do the maths yourself! Even electrician (big TIMERS wiring estates) have all fallen prey to this. 

IMAGINE!!!!


SO, now we have learnt 2 key points, which are:
1.THERE ARE SIX TYPES OF COPPER (Cu) IN THE MARKET BEING PASSED FOR THE MAIN THING.

2. THE HOLES IN THE COILS MAKES IT CLONE-ABLE, THEREBY CONFUSING THE PURCHASER!!