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Emusan:
I asked Janosky simple question now, I discovered he couldn't answer unlike before.

The question: Is Blood Transfusion now bad?

Remember, they always talk about how Blood Transfusion is bad and has caused many death which is the reason they opt for Bloodless treatment.

Janosky de report my comments and then he will post thinking I won’t come back to post even more . He has no way to defend this and is just using gra gra to make up stories to defend. He doesn’t seem to even believe what he’s saying. His comments are disconnected from reality.

These are some comments from people on Reddit discussing the doctrine and how people have divorced or secretly get the transfusion to preserve their life. Nigerians no let anybody kill you. Oyinbo de do the transfusion and pretend they are holy. Save your life o and drop that their card for them.

They keep reporting my comment because they don’t have anything to defend with facts their doctrine. It is up to sane adults to choose to save their lives. See the gymnastics and the lies being spread through scripture on this thread to deceive their flock. Please open your eyes and ensure you preserve your life. Always ask questions and don’t let another human being lead you to destruction. These are the consequences of such doctrine.

This is the so called specialist. A common hematologist giving opinion of cancer treatment of a patient. Wonders shall never end my people. See deception and wickedness. See people fighting over a doctrine they know of not right and putting his religious belief over medical facts.

First and foremost an Oncologist is a Cancer Doctor not a Hematologist who studies blood. Such people are not qualified to discuss who and where is suitable to receive blood, especially in specialties they have no qualification. This person was also not Esther’s doctor and should not be trying to distract people from the fact that the JW doctrine is the cause of Esther’s death. He is a member of the JW faith and is obviously using religion to justify medicine which should attract a ban from the profession in a sane country. But then again, this is Nigeria.

Esther was evaluated by Oncologists, some of the best in Nigeria, in LAGOS. One Hematologist from Calabar teaching hospital is giving interviews and speculating on diagnosis on her case and this is what the defenders of this doctrine can bring out to deceive people?

An example of a JW citing JW doctrine as why she refused blood eventually leading to her death. You can edit your website and even pay to edit all the content on the internet but a lot of people have screenshot and pamphlet.

They are commenting with several usernames backing themselves up. This guy vehemently against blood transfusion is now claiming to have done it and it’s not good. Then they have gone to edit their website to prevent lawsuit. You see these churches, they only care about their bank account and will do anything to preserve their business while preaching false doctrines which do not exist in the Bible to control you.

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Not a member of the church or a follower of the doctrine but once again he says the phrase is not directed at people.

One of the tenets of the Pentecostal movement is that the spiritual controls or moderates the physical so stacking the spirit behind sin frees the person. So you are a really helping not hindering the person.

My thoughts.

Then who is it directed at? Are you a Nigerian? Is it not the same Pentecostal doctrine that pray against enemies in your household? Village people? And so on and so forth? You really think all this fire prayer is not directed at perceived enemies real or assumed?

MaxInDHouse:
You are becoming emotional instead of facing facts.
The Bible specifically says:

Keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you! Act 15:29

So several aspects of contacting deadly diseases is mentioned in the verse.

[1] Things sacrificed to idols because they are not hygienically prepared.

[2] Blood because it contains cells that makes up another person! Leviticus 17:14

[3] From strangled animals because the blood wasn't drained.

[4] Sexual immorality because of STDs.


Now we are talking about treatment that involves transfusing blood from one person to another.

Please listen to what medical experts have to say on the matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlsjWwHWP4M?si=oX3dg4QTA0H34dFO

You people know how to cherry pick passages. Post the whole chapter 15 and read it 10times to understand that the disciples were not speaking of blood transfusion but were preaching and converting unbelievers. So they were clarifying certain laws of Moses when it relates to sacrifice. It’s not good to be this easily controlled as a human being o. I agree with all the disciples said but in no way did they mean blood transfusion. They meant drinking blood which some people do in sacrifice. This is why even the Catholic Church has substituted drinking blood for wine because it is no longer mandated since Jesus died to eat the body and drink the blood. They were certainly talking about animal sacrifice because of the strangulation part. They will strangle the animal by cutting it in a way that it chokes on its own blood and then drain the blood to drink in sacrifice.

Even if you go for operation that doesn’t require blood transfusion you can still die. But the point is, do everything possible to save your life. The amount of negligence in blood transfusion is too little to reject it if it will save your life.

MaxInDHouse:
Emotions and facts differs!
Millions have died, tens of millions are now suffering and millions will still die due to blood transfusion because it's not right to have someone's else blood in your body!🙂

You are still believing the fake story your church was spreading. If millions died, why is it now Ok to transfuse blood Because it saves lives. Whether it’s yours or not. The evidence shows blood transfusion saves lives and the JW have changed their laws because the acknowledge their prior ignorance which has cost the gullible their life.

Your own blood indeed. Better leave that cult alone and free yourself from confusion and premature death. Transfusing your own blood will require a lot of money and special storage which you in Nigeria can never access. In case of emergency, you will be left to die because where will you get blood?

MaxInDHouse:
Abstain from blood is what the Bible says. Act 15:28-29

But then does it includes your own blood?

That's what we are talking about now!🙂

Abstain from murder and sacrifice is not the same as blood transfusion. Since Jehovah Witness eat meat, they don’t abstain from blood so that argument is ridiculous. Red meat and even fish is full of blood.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is what all JWs believe.

Blood transfusion doesn't save but kills because the blood from someone else will never ever work perfectly with your own body so when this new update came in it makes the scriptural guidance more logical because it's your own blood not that of someone else!🙂

JWs don’t believe it. They do it because it is church doctrine and they are afraid of being shunned by their church. If you go to Reddit you will see that people who lost their children and loved ones because of such doctrine are getting ready to sue your church. Also, when every JW had rejected blood, they mentioned their doctrine as the reason why. Even if you try to remove the church from this false doctrine, it cannot escape the lawsuit that is coming.

Blood transfusion has saved millions of lives. Transfused blood as long as it’s same blood type as yours has never been rejected and it has made so many live a very long and healthy life.

MaxInDHouse:
You ran away from the question asked only to pick someone else comment.

What i asked you is this:

Do you have the right to choose the type of treatment that's good for you or anything will do in the name of treatment?🙂

Run away? I answered you. Guy you clearly read your Bible upside down and lack the ability to understand the book and the context of events that spurned such passages. No wonder you need another human to interpret it for you. The passages you have been quoting provide no justification for refusing blood transfusion or any life saving treatment for that matter.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said you are neither hot nor cold! Revelation 3:16

Faithful servants of God are ever ready to live or die for their faith o! Romans 14:8🙂

Yes. For those who died at the hands of the Romans due to persecution. Not because their pastor said they should reject healing and die. They did not die for their faith in such circumstance. That is pure self unaliving.

MaxInDHouse:
Please do you have any right to choose the type of treatment or anything should be administered in the name of treatment?🙂

I have a right to choose my type of treatment if it will save my life. That is a personal decision and should never be from compulsion or risk of exclusion by any group I belong to because I chose a treatment that will save my life. I can never belong to such anyway!

MaxInDHouse:
Please try to be specific with this.

According to Luke 9:23 is Jesus asking for totally control of the life of his disciples?🙂

Jesus never asked for control of anybody’s life. He understood that if the disciples were to follow him they would have to leave all earthly pleasures behind because their journey was to be one of sacrifice, healing, working for the poor and the sick and preaching to people to love one another. Jesus already died for our sins. At no point was it required for us to die under any disciple and their doctrine. Even those who died in defense of their faith did not do so at their own hands.

felixawe:
I'm yet to find find where exactly the scripture kick against blood transfusion. I asked a neighbor whom is a JW to substantiate their doctrine scripturally she referred me to Act 15:20 & 29 which read

"But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollution of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well"

Does the above scripture really kick against blood transfusion?

If it's scriptural ;
1: Why are they relapsing the doctrine ?
2: what's going to be the fate of the neglected donee should death arise.
3: Upon whom the blood of the donee would be upon ?

If this is the chapter they base such doctrine on then it is wrong and a wrong interpretation. First and formost, blood transfusion was first done in 1818 so, the people who wrote the Bible had no understanding of transfusion.


Then this chapter is solely relating to worship of and sacrifice to other gods which require strangling animals or drinking blood. Abrahamic religions are very specific in how to kill an animal for eating or sacrifice. The animal must not struggle, suffer or be strangled. I truly hope you are wrong and this is not the passage this dangerous doctrine was derived from.

Such prayer always backfire o. Even God give room for a sinners repentance. Then what happens to your prayer, where will it go? Words are spells so when you curse, it must go somewhere and if it cannot go to your target it will come back to you x 100.

Find a church where you can focus on positive things and embrace peace and forgiveness.

MaxInDHouse:
Most people don't know that faith isn't cheap o!🙂

No faith in Christianity asked you to kill yourself. Even Jesus was a healer and commanded people to be healed to rid them of any diseases or demons. So they can live a long, happy, free and prosperous life with their loved ones.

Jesus even raised the dead that is how passionate a healer he was. It is folly not to take healing from those God has blessed with the gift. Like doctors. God has outsourced healing of preventable illness to them, why refuse it because one strange person who you don’t even know if he’s mentally intact is preaching such?

But your pastors are creating outrageous doctrine to gauge to gullibility of their sheep in order to control them. And you are saying faith isn’t cheap? Faith is free and it allows free will. Any church refusing you free will or healing is not Christianity and is a cult.

For followers in 3 rd world countries, better throw away this doctrine. Blood expires and become unusable if not stored in proper refrigerated conditions. So, with this doctrine na only Western JW have a chance of surviving. Better throw away the doctrine or leave the cult for Oyinbo.

For this life, no let another human being use Bible or Quran advise you to kill yourself or an innocent person. Do any life saving treatment in secret and pray to God for forgiveness. Or leave your cult. Do you think your leaders children are not getting transfusion? Why do you think this change happened?

God definitely put someone or their children in need of transfusion. It’s obviously humans misinterpreting doctrine for control. Go to church and leave their own doctrine with them. Always save your own and that of your loved one’s life. Pastor and church members will be ok or survive. Have some sense of self belief, self love and self preservation. Trust me, those are the qualities your pastor used to survive and be successful in his business.

Even this ruling the cult members in 3rd world countries will be the most affected. Where will they donate blood to keep for themselves till they need it? Or will the church start a business of storing blood now. If they do, how will they store it and deliver it in time in an emergency? All the way in Nigeria for instance.

I hope all the remaining JW borrow sense and realize their doctrine is man made and can change anytime. So, don’t attach yourself and your life to such and always carry your sense with you. Your main obligation in life is to not let anyone advise you to lose your life. Once it start coming to life and death issue you better leave the cult.

Same thing for those Protestant who are looking for kids but their pastor refuse them to do IVF. Keep waiting, your Pastor and all his children are doing IVF. In 40yrs when you are a long in your one room with no family member, old and grey their great grand child will come and tell you that you no get sense.

planetx:
The guy basically called Christians weak and the teachings of turning the other cheek by Jesus Christ as insanity and an invitation to be oppressed and bullied.

That’s exactly what they taught Africans through Christianity and why the continent is in a mess today. Even they know it’s unrealistic and if you want respect you have to fight back like Iran from criminals and thieves masquerading as the world police. Even Epstein said Christianity was created to control the N-words. It was there and I saw it in the files.

After this, all African countries that are black really should not spend money and involve themselves in the organization. It’s better to remove yourself and create your own where there is mutual respect and sportsmanship. This is so disrespectful and has forever tarnished the organization.

Nigerians don’t spell Abou like that. For us it’s Abu. These people are from Chad, Nigerien, Malian or Senegalese. We don’t hold their government accountable enough for murdering our citizens. If it was Nigerians doing this in their countries they will be all over the internet pointing accusing fingers or even attacking Nigerians in their country’s.

Mrexcell:
It might also be fetish nigerian that's killing the women we see such things over here in nigeria almost on a daily basis.

Which things do you see on a daily basis? Which Nigerians are doing fetish things to killl people like this on a daily basis?

callmetade:
Every time whenever I remember that during slavery,.. some people sold their own people, parents sold children,.. all for something as little as mirror e dey pain me

That’s a lie

UK suppressing this news. Seems like Epstein group of demons are striking again. All those girls that like to get online and hook up with strange White people. Mods, please push to front page.

Missing Nigerian, Kenyan women found dead in UK waters, raise concerns

“There has been speculation online about whether someone could be targeting Black people, particularly Black women,” the group said.

A UK-based advocacy group, ForBlackWomenUK, has raised concerns over a troubling pattern involving missing Black women later discovered dead across the UK.

In an Instagram post on Wednesday, the group highlighted five cases involving four Nigerian women and one Kenyan whose disappearances ended with their bodies being found in rivers lakes or offshore waters.

The victims were identified as Blessing Olusegun, Kayon Williams, Taiwo Balogun, Samaria Ayanle and Edna Mmbali Ombakho. The organisation said the cases showed that missing Black women often receive less media attention, public awareness and support.

“Each woman had a life, a family and people who loved them,” the group stated. “Every disappearance deserves urgency, visibility and thorough investigation.”

https://gazettengr.com/missing-nigerian-kenyan-women-found-dead-in-uk-waters-raise-concerns/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGRlalOv048