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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:00pm On Nov 22, 2020
smartsmith0907:


aina issue be like Naija popular saying "there is nothing God cannot do" lolzzz
though I understand the technical crews are still in touch with him but the chances are very slim.

Lol

You said aina you meant saka or what ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 8:01pm On Nov 22, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Mbappe made his debut for Monaco in 2015.
December 2015, Iheanacho made his debut in August 2015.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:02pm On Nov 22, 2020
Karlovich:
I'm not denying the fact that his stat at Man City was good, but based on the comparison at the time which was in 2016/2017 season Mbappe was better than him. Iheanacho scored 21 goals in his first 2 seasons at Man city while Mbappe had 27 goals in his first 2 seasons at Monaco. Having best goal per minute ratio was just a plus for Kelechi.
Mbappe was playing regularly, Iheanacho was not. Yet Iheanacho had a very good conversion rate. That was why the debate was about the finishing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by feelme2020: 8:06pm On Nov 22, 2020
andrewbaba44:


I have no problem and I know he is already captied

Some people said he will be used and dumped but we are already seeing something different

As far as dude continues he won’t be dropped anytime soon

You know what, i think Foreign borns can collaborate with us in ways other than playing for us or not.
Our foreign borns can start or sponsor football academies and even sponsor football clubs in Nigeria.
They can connect us with the architecture of European football and help our grassroots football at club and grasroots level.
Tammy Abraham can start or partner with a football academy in Nigeria and help us get foreign trainers from Europe.
they can even help with tactical konwledge of the game by partnering with our clubs and football academies.
The national private investors league is comming up and our foreign borns can help in cash and kind
I hope nff or someone reasons along this line.
Collaborating with us does not start or end with playing or not playing for us.
Our foreign borns can actually help our local football develop

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 8:07pm On Nov 22, 2020
TheGoodJoe:

Mbappe was playing regularly, Iheanacho was not. Yet Iheanacho had a very good conversion rate. That was why the debate was about the finishing.
Very good conversion rate, but Mbappe was a better striker at that time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:08pm On Nov 22, 2020
smartsmith0907:


personally I dont think this three man tactics will work for them imagine playing debruyne and Bernardo as a CMF role it gonna limit this players attacking feat the 4-3-3 is still the best but rodri should understudy fernandiho or by January pep should go to transfer and get a DMF to cover for the defense I mean someone like Ndidi will be very suitable for this .
my opinion though am not a man city fan a Chelsea but the little I understand about man city.

Rodri's ball playing prowess is a big part of Guardiola's game plan. It is maintaining shape that is the challenge.

Either Rodri learns how to sit deep or Guardiola provides cover tactically.

As for limiting the attaching plays of De Bruyne, Bernado and co., the offensive play is not helping enough. We need to control the game more and attack with more caution.

Changing shape and maintaining tempo is the way to go.

Or Pep converts Rodri to a third ball playing defender.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:09pm On Nov 22, 2020
Karlovich:
Very good conversion rate, but Mbappe was a better striker at that time.

The better striker for Mbappe was due to his all round play. When it came to finishing Nacho still ruled.

So it was a thing of preference.

All round play or team play to a clinical finisher.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 8:12pm On Nov 22, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


The better striker for Mbappe was due to his all round play. When it came to finishing Nacho still ruled.

So it was a thing of preference.

All round play or team play to a clinical finisher.
Both Iheanacho and Mbappe started their careers in 2015, after 2 seasons Iheanacho scored 21 goals in 64 appearances while Mbappe scored 27 goals in 60 matches, who was better finisher?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 8:14pm On Nov 22, 2020
Karlovich:
Both Iheanacho and Mbappe started their careers in 2015, after 2 seasons Iheanacho scored 21 goals in 64 appearances while Mbappe scored 27 goals in 60 matches, who was better finisher?
Most be added, Mbappe played from the wings while Kelechi the tap in merchant, played as a standing striker. cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 8:15pm On Nov 22, 2020
Barryseal:

Most be added, Mbappe played from the wings while Kelechi the tap in merchant, played as a standing striker. cool
grin grin, he should answer the question.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:23pm On Nov 22, 2020
Karlovich:
Both Iheanacho and Mbappe started their careers in 2015, after 2 seasons Iheanacho scored 21 goals in 64 appearances while Mbappe scored 27 goals in 60 matches, who was better finisher?

The finishing rate is judged by the amount of time. Not number of games. Lots of those Nacho games were not full time unlike Mbappe that was full time and in a less competitive league (Ligue 1) unlike Nacho in less time in the English Premier League.

That is why the term of Goal per minute ratio.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:24pm On Nov 22, 2020
Barryseal:

Most be added, Mbappe played from the wings while Kelechi the tap in merchant, played as a standing striker. cool

Another misleading talk. Most of Nacho's goals were not tap ins as some of you like to make. For instance he scored a curler against Tottenham and another against Southampton.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:25pm On Nov 22, 2020
Karlovich:
grin grin, he should answer the question.

There is nothing funny. You are just 3 years late to an already discussed topic.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:25pm On Nov 22, 2020
So Sebastian Haller later played for Ivory Coast instead of France

Dem no Dey tell mad man say war don start grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:26pm On Nov 22, 2020
Icon4s:
NAIRALAND NIGERIAN FOOTBALL FANS (NNFF) AWARDS

NOMINATION OF AWARDS COMMITTEE MEMBERS


The Super Eagles have played all their matches for 2020, and to crown up all our analyses on Nigerian Players for the entire year, it is time for us to select players who have made more Impact than the others in various categories.

And, like it has always been, we need to nominate Monikers who will come up with the list of players in the various categories. Then, the entire house will do the voting.

NOTE: Being the Coordinator I am already part of the committee. No need to nominate Icon4s, so we need 6 more people who will join me.


All you need do is mention the Moniker you want to see in the awards Committee and CC: Icon4s and Bascovanveli. The Top 6 nominated monikers will join me in the Committee.

NOMINATION CLOSES 22ND NOVEMBER, 2020 @ 6PM (NIGERIAN TIME)

Let me open the floor:

I nominate Bascovanveli
Cc: Icon4s, Bascovanveli.


Results of Nominations:

A total of 30 Monikers made nominations, with 11 Monikers nominated as shown below:

Smartsmith0907 = 7
Thegoodjoe = 5
Andrewbaba44 = 4
Bascovanveli = 3
Joebie = 2
Safarigirl = 2
Sisisioge = 2
ThesuperNerd = 2
Danielnino 00 = 1
Johnbullmyson = 1
Neobulletzz = 1

Let's get the collation from Bascovanveli and then we decide on way forward.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 8:30pm On Nov 22, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


The finishing rate is judged by the amount of time. Not number of games. Lots of those Nacho games were not full time unlike Mbappe that was fill time and in a less competitive league (Ligue 1) unlike Nacho in less time in the English Premier League.

That is why the term of Goal per minute ratio.
Goal per minute ratio doesn't make him better than Mbappe, or are you trying to insinuate that someone who doesn't play regularly is better than someone that plays regularly. If so would you say that David Nugent and Francis Jeffers are better than Harry Kane for England because they had better/if not best goal to minute ratio for their Country.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 8:30pm On Nov 22, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


There is nothing funny. You are just 3 years late to an already discussed topic.
Lol, I was here when it was being discussed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 8:36pm On Nov 22, 2020
do4luv14:



Which authorities are you talking about? Be dribbling yoursef upadan, when I ask you to redirect that ya question, why did you think am talking about?

Kiaaa..... Yeye dey smell


Keep smelling yeye,just keep it up, the simple question is,is it bad if a country like Nigeria has a standard?And talking about a pitch favouring someone,who do you think the potato farm in Benin favoured between Nigeria and Sierra Leone?is it Nigeria with our ( I don't even know the kind of game Rohr plays)low budget tiki taka or Sierra Leone with their kick and rush style of football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:45pm On Nov 22, 2020
Icon4s:


Results of Nominations:

A total of 30 Monikers made nominations, with 11 Monikers nominated as shown below:

Smartsmith0907 = 7
Thegoodjoe = 5
Andrewbaba44 = 4
Bascovanveli = 3
Joebie = 2
Safarigirl = 2
Sisisioge = 2
ThesuperNerd = 2
Danielnino 00 = 1
Johnbullmyson = 1
Neobulletzz = 1

Let's get the collation from Bascovanveli and then we decide on way forward.

I had 35 nomination with 12 Nominated:

Smartsmith0907 = 9
Thegoodjoe = 4
Andrewbaba44 = 5
Bascovanveli = 4
ThesuperNerd = 3
Joebie = 2
Safarigirl = 2
Sisisioge = 2
Danielnino00 = 1
Johnbullmyson = 1
Neobulletzz = 1
Jayromwrites = 1
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 8:51pm On Nov 22, 2020
Moffi starts for Lorient against Lille

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:53pm On Nov 22, 2020
andrewbaba44:

Lol
You said aina you meant saka or what ?
sorry I meant saka
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 8:54pm On Nov 22, 2020
andrewbaba44:
So Sebastian Haller later played for Ivory Coast instead of France

Dem no Dey tell mad man say war don start grin
France ignored him for along time, he is a good addition to their side, Dembele and Doucouré turned down Mali despite no clear sign of a call up from France. I sometimes wonder what goes on in these player's mind.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:59pm On Nov 22, 2020
Karlovich:
France ignored him for along time, he is a good addition to their side, Dembele and Doucouré turned down Mali despite no clear sign of a call up from France. I sometimes wonder what goes on in these player's mind.

He is not good enough for France if we are to be sincere

Even iheanacho and osimhen are better than haller so na France e wan play for when he is bang average

Doucuoure is good enough for France and he knows it even thou he will be at the bench

Which dembele are you talking about bro

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:00pm On Nov 22, 2020
smartsmith0907:


sorry I meant saka

Hahaha

I know jare
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:01pm On Nov 22, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Rodri's ball playing prowess is a big part of Guardiola's game plan. It is maintaining shape that is the challenge.

Either Rodri learns how to sit deep or Guardiola provides cover tactically.

As for limiting the attaching plays of De Bruyne, Bernado and co., the offensive play is not helping enough. We need to control the game more and attack with more caution.

Changing shape and maintaining tempo is the way to go.

Or Pep converts Rodri to a third ball playing defender.


yh youre right bro Rodriguez should sit deep while while the likes of Bernardo or De bruyne drop a little bit deep to get the ball from rodri and anchor the midfield same thing tieleman is doing for Leicester.
I don't pep will change his tactics to a more defensive play coz that has not been his philosophy...it really difficult changing the team pattern and style...he just need to provide cover for the defense while rodri drop really deep to help the defense
my broda what do you think about lampard python tactics?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:03pm On Nov 22, 2020
So scored today and I missed it

Please did anyone report that here ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:07pm On Nov 22, 2020
smartsmith0907:



yh youre right bro Rodriguez should sit deep while while the likes of Bernardo or De bruyne drop a little bit deep to get the ball from rodri and anchor the midfield same thing tieleman is doing for Leicester.
I don't pep will change his tactics to a more defensive play coz that has not been his philosophy...it really difficult changing the team pattern and style...he just need to provide cover for the defense while rodri drop really deep to help the defense
my broda what do you think about lampard python tactics?

Not really watched much of Lampard but the few I have watched has been impressive. I also like his choice of players also.

Still need to study more of him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:07pm On Nov 22, 2020
for real jota nah world class.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:13pm On Nov 22, 2020
Karlovich:
Goal per minute ratio doesn't make him better than Mbappe, or are you trying to insinuate that someone who doesn't play regularly is better than someone that plays regularly. If so would you say that David Nugent and Francis Jeffers are better than Harry Kane for England because they had better/if not best goal to minute ratio for their Country.

Goal per minute ratio shows efficiency. That is why the debate was about. With the little time, Nacho made loads of impact.

Francis Jeffers was not a goal machine in that magnitude. Iheanacho was hitting World Class efficiency.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 9:20pm On Nov 22, 2020
Osihmen not on the pitch, is he injured?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:20pm On Nov 22, 2020
Icon4s:


Results of Nominations:

A total of 30 Monikers made nominations, with 11 Monikers nominated as shown below:

Smartsmith0907 = 7
Thegoodjoe = 5
Andrewbaba44 = 4
Bascovanveli = 3
Joebie = 2
Safarigirl = 2
Sisisioge = 2
ThesuperNerd = 2
Danielnino 00 = 1
Johnbullmyson = 1
Neobulletzz = 1

Let's get the collation from Bascovanveli and then we decide on way forward.

This is indeed a joke!! Supernerd got only 2 votes This is someone who dedicated his time and effort every weekend to bring us details of every Nigetian player playing in Europe. From the major leagues to the backwater leagues inspite of his demanding schedule. Only 2 votes Seriously
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:36pm On Nov 22, 2020
TheGoodJoe:

Mbappe was playing regularly, Iheanacho was not. Yet Iheanacho had a very good conversion rate. That was why the debate was about the finishing.

It was never about the finishing rather holistical veiw.

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