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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Barryseal: 11:03am On Sep 12
Earthquake1:


Definitely qualifying for the Olympics was more important, that does not mean that Sudan is a highly rated team
No. It means the Sudan match was more important of the 2 result irrespective of the opponent, highly or lowly.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Earthquake1: 11:04am On Sep 12
Barryseal:

No. It means the Sudan match was more important of the 2 result irrespective of the opponent, highly or lowly.

What do you mean?

We are talking about strength of opponents here
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:05am On Sep 12
komekn:


Not exactly.

Scotland as a league has a much lower rating than Turkey. But there are two teams that are far better than the rest. Celtic and Glasgow Rangers and have a higher rating or comparable to Galatasaray and Fenerbache.

Then the other issue is that the Scottish premier league mimicks the EPL. Making the transition to the EPL not so difficult.

I will remind you to consider where Van Dyke came from arguably the best Defender in the world. Barcelona once bought a striker from Celtic.

One of the best U 16 players in the world is at Celtic.

So it's not so straight forward.

It's a sh*t league.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Barryseal: 11:06am On Sep 12
Earthquake1:


The best player at the world cup was Modric
Modric is deceptively very strong and can be physical when the occasion demands. He can tackle hard as well. He got red carded 2 weeks ago.
Bottom line is that the two contending world cup finalists had lots of physicality and the played the show piece game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by jihday(m): 11:08am On Sep 12
tbaba1234:
Philip Ejimadu wins save of the month in the USL league 1.

(In my opinion, the save was nothing special)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uFRyej6ohA&feature=youtu.be
Division what is this?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Barryseal: 11:14am On Sep 12
Earthquake1:


What do you mean?

We are talking about strength of opponents here
Your comment was disrespectful to the result Imama got against Sudan. You then tagged him a failure,when he got the most important result for Nigeria over the weekend.
Your comment was almost encouraging the Nff not to pay him. You sounded insensity that much.
You think I'm lying? Kindly re-read your comments.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:43am On Sep 12
Starboytwo:
Many times I'm very dissapointed that we can't boast of a single quality pitch in 9ja.... The whole north east west south of Nigeria and we don't have a 90 thousand cap stadium, very very very bad....

If countries were bringing their stadiums, we can only boast of uyo...

We cant even host Afcon...not to talk world cup or Olympics..


Abuja stadium- coma
National stadium - dead, buried, Ash thrown in the Atlantic...



I am sure on a good day Forgiveness will take down the bolded.... lol

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Meliforme: 12:16pm On Sep 12
komekn:


Forgive my ignorance but l just haven't heard a whisper about this guy.

With all the accolades and attributes you have declared he has. Then no matter what league he is in he should be the stand out player for club and league.

Please do not make reference to youth glories they are TOTALLY IRRELEVANT.

Now can you give more detail club, league titles won, etc, etc

Please.
I do not need a player to come into limelight before i provide a highlight. The qualities listed inter alia are in the comparative with Ndidi, Etebo and Aribo on the scale. Meanwhile, he plays for Istanbul Basaksehir in the Turkish elite league on loan.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by charlesemeka85(m): 12:19pm On Sep 12
3rd division
jihday:
Division what is this?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Earthquake1: 12:22pm On Sep 12
Barryseal:

Modric is deceptively very strong and can be physical when the occasion demands. He can tackle hard as well. He got red carded 2 weeks ago.
Bottom line is that the two contending world cup finalists had lots of physicality and the played the show piece game.

Modric is not by any means physical,He has a size disadvantage and body structure disadvantages, He outsmarts his opponent with his intelligence

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Earthquake1: 12:24pm On Sep 12
Barryseal:

Your comment was disrespectful to the result Imama got against Sudan. You then tagged him a failure,when he got the most important result for Nigeria over the weekend.
Your comment was almost encouraging the Nff not to pay him. You sounded insensity that much.
You think I'm lying? Kindly re-read your comments.

The write up was kind of apologist, kinda giving excuses for present or future failure

If he has issues with the NFF let him sort it out, not drafting grievances that will be referred back to when he fails

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Barryseal: 12:36pm On Sep 12
Earthquake1:


Modric is not by any means physical,He has a size disadvantage and body structure disadvantages, He outsmarts his opponent with his intelligence

He is also physically strong. Modric is as tough as nails he's physically and technically balanced. Being short doesn't rub one of being strong physically if that's the case, Etebo won't be said to be physical since he has size disadvantage as well.
Bottom line is that France and Croatia were first class Physically strong teams at the last world cup. Don't run away from the narrative of my initial post.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Barryseal: 12:38pm On Sep 12
Earthquake1:


The write up was kind of apologist, kinda giving excuses for present or future failure

If he has issues with the NFF let him sort it out, not drafting grievances that will be referred back to when he fails
Coaches use media to get the ears of the NFF. If it's not in the media the Nff usually won't pay. That's how things work in a 3rd world country like Nigeria.
A man haven't been paid for 6 months and you're defending his principal.
As a graphic designer, don't your clients pay you?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by jihday(m): 12:50pm On Sep 12
Uncle agbaya grin

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by jihday(m): 12:55pm On Sep 12
Those of you who seem disgruntled at the increased number of foreign born in our team, una just dey start o. Go and check all English clubs youth teams and tell me you don't see about 30-40% players with Naija blood receiving proper and better football education , now take another long and hard look at our local league does it look like a place where future super eagles coaches who is serious about their job will intend to secure players?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by charlesemeka85(m): 1:17pm On Sep 12
He deserves a chance in the current eagles set up cus he did well at the U17 level.
jihday:
Uncle agbaya grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by charlesemeka85(m): 1:18pm On Sep 12
U dey mind them, pple wey sentiment Don dey mk them go loco
jihday:
Those of you who seem disgruntled at the increased number of foreign born in our team, una just dey start o. Go and check all English clubs youth teams and tell me you don't see about 30-40% players with Naija blood receiving proper and better football education , now take another long and hard look at our local league does it look like a place where future super eagles coaches who is serious about their job will intend to secure players?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by elyte89: 1:23pm On Sep 12
C attack kiss

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Earthquake1: 1:42pm On Sep 12
Barryseal:

Coaches use media to get the ears of the NFF. If it's not in the media the Nff usually won't pay. That's how things work in a 3rd world country like Nigeria.
A man haven't been paid for 6 months and you're defending his principal.
As a graphic designer, don't your clients pay you?

How do you know he hasn't been paid for 6 months, isn't it in the same media that they said Rohr has not been paid by the NFF but it was a private company that is paying his wages

You expect me to believe what does not come from a credible source but an individual?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Earthquake1: 1:46pm On Sep 12
Barryseal:


He is also physically strong. Modric is as tough as nails he's physically and technically balanced. Being short doesn't rub one of being strong physically if that's the case, Etebo won't be said to be physical since he has size disadvantage as well.
Bottom line is that France and Croatia were first class Physically strong teams at the last world cup. Don't run away from the narrative of my initial post.

If Modric is strong then everybody else is a Goliath, He's not only short but has a frail physical structure. He has been rejected by many clubs because of fears that he might not be physically capable to play

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by somehow: 1:53pm On Sep 12
tbaba1234:


Algeria won the nations cup with technique not the usual attributes associated with African football. In my opinion, Aribo is more effective. He gets into the box from the midfield and that gives him a chance to get more goals.

Etebo is a good player but i feel that he sometimes over-elaborates on the ball. People might see that and say baller but it kills attacks.

Technique beats power every day of the week. Do European team not smash Africans in competitions?


The same Algeria that fouled more than almost all their opponents at the AFCON? go and check their record

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:56pm On Sep 12
komekn:


His biggest problem NO PACE.

He reminds me of our own Yakubu

Wow. I did not really notice that aspect from Yakubu. I think I was too carried away with his goals to watch out his deficiencies.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:03pm On Sep 12
komekn:


Agreed without question.

With regards to the bold Akinfenwa comes to mind, it is not very nice to see but it's Effective and wins games. I remember him completely cancelling out too Liverpool defenders when he played Liverpool in the FA cup.

I think Osimhen need to learn how to time his runs and use his pace better and think more about his positioning. Sometimes he's running around like a headless chicken to little effect. Getting into physical battles is not his type of game.

Men, you have watched ball. cheesy

I do not even have an idea of Akinfenwa's strength. Interesting lesson. Check him out later.

On Osimhen I think you did justice on the aspect on how he can get better. He needs to make utilisation of spaces his thing and build on his best attributes which is work rate and pace.

I feel Rohr should stop pushing him towards being a physical striker because it clearly looks not his thing. Osimhen looked far dangerous when he was making runs and pressing for the ball.

The Vardy mold idea seems far realistic and achievable. Maybe not in that class but close to it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:04pm On Sep 12
Tactical Analysis: New energy can’t hide Super Eagles failings



The dynamism of this new Nigeria side couldn’t get them over the line against Ukraine

By James O'Conners

After a new-look Nigeria side were held 2-2 by Ukraine in Tuesday’s friendly, Goal analyses the Super Eagles’ tactical display.


New boys start quickly

From the first whistle, Nigeria looked vibrant and energetic, with debutant Joe Aribo in central midfield in Gernot Rohr’s 4-2-3-1 formation.

His four goals in 12 games since joining Glasgow Rangers had earned him a deserved call-up, and it took just four minutes for him to display the attributes he can bring to the side.

Samuel Kalu, back in the lineup after his health concerns at the Africa Cup on Nations, made a superb dribble, cut inside from his role as inverted left winger, showed skill in a tight space, then found Alex Iwobi’s run on the outside.
The Everton man played a cut-back towards Samuel Chukwueze, but Aribo managed to divert a left-footed attempt into the net after making a forward run into a scoring position – a real speciality for the new man.

Up front, Victor Osimhen, who got only one run-out at the Afcon, but has four goals in four games for his new club LOSC Lille, was outstanding in the early stages.


Unlike Odion Ighalo, he often worked the channels, gave a constant out-ball into space and brought a real aerial outlet for the side too, moving onto the touchline for goalkicks as Francis Uzoho aimed longer deliveries forward.

One excellent spin away from his marker and a through-ball for Chukwueze saw Andriy Lunin save well with his legs.

Aside from the excellent work he was doing in holding up the ball, showing good feet in tight spaces, and always availing himself, he also defended well.

Although Nigeria were not pressing high, Osimhen would drop off to supplement midfield and worked very hard for the team.



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By the 23rd minute, Nigeria should have been 2-0 up as Aribo again arrived into a goalscoring position but his header from Iwobi’s accurate cross was well-saved. Eventually, the second goal arrived in the 33rd minute.

Ola Aina, getting a start in his natural right-back role, dribbled forward from deep, glided past three Ukraine players and spread a perfect left-footed pass out to Kalu on the left flank.
He cut inside, was taken down, and the referee pointed to the spot.

Osimhen converted for what could be his first of many goals for his country based on this display and his club form.



Issues defending wide

Despite Nigeria’s vibrant attacking play in the first half, and Aina’s individual brilliance to create the second, the Torino man’s defending left a lot to be desired. Albeit in a setup where Chukwueze moved narrow and rarely dropped back, Aina struggled.

Another issue for the side – as it was during the tournament in Egypt – was how to control the space between the lines.

As Andriy Yarmolenko came inside to find space, Jamilu Collins often tracked what he considered ‘his man’ into very deep, narrow positions. This forced Kalu to spend much of the first half as an auxiliary full-back.

Solace Chukwu @TheOddSolace: One can expect Samuel Chukwueze's decision-making will improve. He's pretty blinkered in transition, and has spurned quite a few opportunities to play in Osimhen.#UKRNGA. 8:49 PM - Sep 10, 2019

One incident aside when a slide-rule pass caught him out and Ukraine nearly scored, he did his job well – his experience as a wing-back when Rohr uses a back three came in handy.

Another attack saw Oghenekaro Etebo taken away from his zone, Oleksandr Zinchenko was found free between the lines, and Uzoho had to smother a chance from Junior Moraes after Aina was slow to recover inside.

Then, Aina completely missed a header and Uzoho had to pull off a superb double save. Nigeria had been warned, and their 2-0 lead at half-time looked far from secure.



Eagles use transitions

At the start of the second half, Nigeria were far less interested in possession and attacked largely with quick transitions.

On several occasions, Etebo and Aribo won the ball in midfield and immediately released Osimhen into the depth or found Chukwueze’s feet to lead counters.

Iwobi fired wide from one chance set up by the Super Eagles’ striker’s industry and movement before their Villarreal winger, Chukwueze nearly set up Osimhen, but his pass was cut out by the goalkeeper.

Later, Iwobi released the striker again, but Kalu skied his shot when picked out.

When Kalu was chopped down inside the box, but no penalty was given, Nigeria had probably missed their chances to kill the game, and were made to pay for that as Andriy Shevchenko’s men were invited to monopolise possession and territory by Rohr’s substitutions.




Rohr retreats and pays the price

As has been a theme under the German coach, Nigeria did not go for the jugular and finish off their opponents, but instead made changes to protect a lead.

Iwobi was taken off and Anderson Esiti introduced for his first cap since 2016. He played as the deepest midfielder, with Aribo to his right and Etebo to his left in a more conservative midfield three.

Solace Chukwu @TheOddSolace: Anderson Esiti is a shadow of the player he was four years ago. Seems to have doubled down on his weaknesses in the intervening period.#UKRNGA. 9:23 PM - Sep 10, 2019

Kalu later went off for Moses Simon as the former began to tire in his defensive duties, and Collins certainly needed protection.

Earlier, he had lost Yarmolenko from Zinchenko’s dinked pass, and several Ukraine players contrived to fail to turn the ball home.


Solace Chukwu @TheOddSolace: In my eyes, the biggest winner tonight was Francis Uzoho. He needed a performance like this, with Maduka Okoye sat on the bench. The one-handed save in the first-half was almost Schmeichel-esque.#UKRNGA. 9:35 PM - Sep 10, 2019


Two goals conceded in 49 seconds

With Rohr’s changes inviting pressure and Nigeria now relying almost entirely on early direct passes for Osimhen for any respite, the pressure eventually told. Zinchenko levelled with a lovely run and finish, beating Esiti too easily just inside the box.

Straight from the kickoff, Etebo was caught on the ball, Roman Yaremchuk made a lovely run behind William Troost-Ekong and finished at the second attempt. The goal had come from a handball by the scorer and should have been overruled under the new rules put into effect by IFAB.

Nevertheless, Nigeria had brought this on themselves by playing more negatively and then having defensive changes imposed on them by the coach.

There was time for Emmanuel Bonaventure Dennis to make his debut on the wing, and Chidozie Awaziem got the final few minutes after Ekong went off injured.

Ukraine had dominated the second half, also testing Uzoho from two freekicks, and also scored a disallowed goal in the last minute from an offside position.




Summary

Despite the disappointing result and second half, there were more positives than negatives from this game.

Nigeria looked faster and more dangerous going forward without Odion Ighalo and John Mikel Obi, and both Osimhen and Aribo came out of the game with real credit.

However, against a side with numerous creative midfielders overloading Nigeria between-the-lines, the problems from the Afcon in dealing with that threat remained.

Rohr’s change to bring on Esiti did little to curb that threat, and he struggled to adjust to the tempo of the game. Wilfred Ndidi was missed, but even with him in the side, that issue has often reared its head in the recent past.

In goal, Uzoho did his claim to be the number one no harm at all with some excellent saves, though his ability with his feet – both short and long – remains a real concern.

Going forward, Nigeria have tactical issues to sort out and need greater ability from the coach to reclaim matches that are slipping away.

However, this game showed just how exciting some of the emerging young players can be as they gain experience at their clubs and on the international stage.

The Super Eagles may finally be moving on from the older generation.


SOURCE: Goal.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:08pm On Sep 12
somehow:


The same Algeria that fouled more than almost all their opponents at the AFCON? go and check their record

Manchester City commits loads of fouls, does not mean we are a physical side.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by somehow: 2:11pm On Sep 12
TheGoodJoe:


Manchester City commits loads of fouls, does not mean we are a physical side.

Yes they are
Or do you foul without contact?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by timay(m): 2:16pm On Sep 12
somehow:


The same Algeria that fouled more than almost all their opponents at the AFCON? go and check their record

Committing a lot of fouls is just a trait of indiscipline from a team, and not because the team is physical.
Ndidi and someone like Wan bissaka are physical and makes good tackles Everytime including physical duels without committing fouls .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by kentebemoney: 2:21pm On Sep 12
seankafor:
he should shut da fvck up bro..

He is in no position to detect where we play.
So a country like nigeria do not have a standard pitch and you are cool with it?

make d coach no talk angry

My people make una see nigeria problem cry

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:33pm On Sep 12
Sometimes committing fouls is also tactical. Many big teams employ this to shut down their opponents and disrupt their attacking flow. Even Man City employs this tactic when found on the backfoot in a game. So committing fouls is not entirely rested on the altar of indiscipline. It is one of many tactics coaches use to limit or curtail.


On Ndidi, yes most of the times his tackles are clean but let me remind you that he was the one who gave away those fouls twice against Algeria towards the game's dying minutes and one of it resulted in that Mahrez free kick which beat Akpeyi in goal. Ndidi's careless tackle so close to our 18 yard box in such dangerous position in that one instance cost the team.



timay:


Committing a lot of fouls is just a trait of indiscipline from a team, and not because the team is physical.
Ndidi and someone like Wan bissaka are physical and makes good tackles Everytime including physical duels without committing fouls .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by kris(m): 2:37pm On Sep 12
Why are we not talking about our upcoming games? We face Togo on the 20th of September, only 8 days away.

Look at the images below for more games.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:39pm On Sep 12
That's the Homebased Super Eagles for the CHAN qualifiers.

The Main Super Eagles resume action in November with Afcon qualifiers games against Benin and Lesotho.


kris:
Why are we not talking about our upcoming games? We face Togo on the 20th of September, only 8 days away.

Look at the image below for more games.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Dawn Of A New Era, AFCON 2021 And Qatar 2022 by Barryseal: 2:42pm On Sep 12
Earthquake1:


If Modric is strong then everybody else is a Goliath, He's not only short but has a frail physical structure. He has been rejected by many clubs because of fears that he might not be physically capable to play
Those clubs and Wenger were wrong. One of Wengers many regrets was underestimating Modric's strength.

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