TheLoneCitizen:


Osimhen has played against 5 of the Seven Sisters this season:
He has 1 goal contribution (1 assist vs Inter).
He has missed Atalanta twice.

Abraham has played against 5 of the Seven Sisters this season:
He has 8 goal contributions (1 goal vs Milan, 1 assist vs Napoli, 1 goal vs Juventus, 2 goals vs Lazio, 3 goals vs Atalanta)

So Abraham has scored or assisted against all of them except Inter, who he is yet to play against.

Levels, brother.

M7even:


The fact that Ike has been a former goalkeeper , who at the height of his career was better than spartan rotterndam goalkeeper coaches and has access to materials for institutions as his counterparts in Europe,puts him in a constructively better position to teach him

komekn:


What was the height of his career in obscure clubs and league in Switzerland and Turkey.

What is the experential competence he has gained from coaching in the top leagues and clubs with outstanding facilities in Europe ❓❓

Did Ike ever reach the level of a 22 year old Maduka has already attained at his very young age.

TheLoneCitizen:


Osimhen has played against 5 of the Seven Sisters this season:
He has 1 goal contribution (1 assist vs Inter).
He has missed Atalanta twice.

Abraham has played against 5 of the Seven Sisters this season:
He has 8 goal contributions (1 goal vs Milan, 1 assist vs Napoli, 1 goal vs Juventus, 2 goals vs Lazio, 3 goals vs Atalanta)

So Abraham has scored or assisted against all of them except Inter, who he is yet to play against.

Levels, brother.

Karlovich:
So you want to compare Shoronmu that was born in Lagos to someone like Maduka that was born in Dusseldorf and won't have issues with work permit in many countries.
I suppose Maduka was better than Enyeama because at 22 Enyeama was still with Enyimba.
Stop being bias with some of your analysis, and also Maduka hasn't achieved anything.

komekn:


You are being blatantly biased.

Where you be were born and your life circumstances has no bearing on the situation. It's a question of opportunity some have it some don't. And some don't make use of the opportunities they get.

If Ike Shorunmu was born in Germany how do we know he would not have turned out as a lie life drug addict and never have any desire for football.

You can not make projections on life it's not that simple.

Parrot69:

In your mind now you think you won the game?
All thanks to FIFA ‘’away goal” that gave you the audacity to talk.
Trash!!

Karlovich:
Where you are born can also play an important role in your outcome. You can't compare someone born in Lagos with limited/poor training facilities and with likelihood of having work permit issues/quota issues if signed by a European club because he is not homegrown with someone born in Germany with access to better training facilities.

Such factors can hamper someone's life/career regardless of their talent and you are being dishonest if you think it doesn't.

Someone like Nketiah despite being a crappy footballer at Arsenal (not more talented than Nwakali) is still stuck at Arsenal at 23 while Nwakali had to struggle with work permit issues in the same club.

JohnBullMySon:
Asides England, I don't know of any other European country that conditions your work permit on the number of National team games you have played as a non EU citizen. I think those EPL rules were even removed last year post COVID.

You may have a point, but being born in Nigeria doesn't necessarily make you an automatic victim of circumstance. Do away with that mentality. You could be limiting yourself if you start thinking like that.

drDoom3:


That was the same thing they said with Bayern.

It was said that this was Bayern's easiest possible draw.

Look how it ended.

Bayern has been scarier in UCL these past few years than Liverpool have been. If Bayern got knocked out, why do you conclude so easily that Liverpool will easily get past them? Does Bayern have two heads? Lol.

yinkeys:
Don’t be surprised if Villarreal win 1st leg against Liverpool next week
They have 1 full week to prepare for Liverpool but Liverpool will play Everton on Sunday before the UCL fixture on Wednesday

Hopefully Klopp rotates his team properly

andrewbaba44:


Unai emery will rest players and klopp will play full squad

Let’s see sha

Liverpool remains favorite ,if dem underrate Villarreal Na dem sabi

yinkeys:

Villarreal CF don’t have any match this weekend
Their next game is against Liverpool

komekn:


What has Ike got to teach him,it may be the other way round.

Karlovich:
Where you are born can also play an important role in your outcome. You can't compare someone born in Lagos with limited/poor training facilities and with likelihood of having work permit issues/quota issues if signed by a European club because he is not homegrown with someone born in Germany with access to better training facilities.

Such factors can hamper someone's life/career regardless of their talent and you are being dishonest if you think it doesn't.

Someone like Nketiah despite being a crappy footballer at Arsenal (not more talented than Nwakali) is still stuck at Arsenal at 23 while Nwakali had to struggle with work permit issues in the same club.

maidaboi:
Undiluted facts

komekn:


You simply have no idea about what you are talking and about. Sorry to say you are HIGHLY MISINFORMED and COMPLETELY without knowledge.

Every society has its challenges ,it's pros and cons.

How many black players have played with exceptional quality. But how many are Managers of clubs in the UK.

Before their retirement boots have got time to dry out , Frank Lampard, Rooney, Gerrard are already Managers in the EPL and Championship.

You have no Idea of the depth of institutional and endemic racism in football at all levels. Before you make it , you have multiple hurdles to overcome.

Some unable to deal with the mental strain of exclusion by racial discrimination as be well as the abuse . Have fallen out if football altogether even some have even committed suicide.

It's not always plain sailing.

Do you know how many boys get released by football clubs every season. Eberechi Eze was released by about 7/8 clubs before he made it at QPR.

Nwakali is a "Waste Man" Arsenal discovered very early that he was " bad market" never bothered applying for a work permit.

They thought they could get some of their investment back. Loaned him out to multiple clubs without success over 4 years in the end they let him go to Porto B who did not want him either. Luckily Huesca took him on and gave him a low level contract.

For your information both Eze and Ovie were released by Arsenal but look at them now. Eddie refused to renew his contract wanted by multiple EPL clubs.

Who wants Nwakali ❓❓❓

You are talking balderdash Eddie is a million miles away from Nwakali not on the same level at all .

It's better to be stuck at Arsenal in the EPL with the club offering you a contract renewal. Than a nobody in the Segunda division with your club terminating your contract well before the season has ended. Club tried to offload him illegally they were desperate to get rid of him.

Comparing Eddie with Nwakali is like light and darkness.

BannedLarge:

Only delusional people will say that osimehn is better than Abraham because he is fast and can hustle. Football transcends Pace/strength and one has to refine his game and add other valuable attributes to become world class

komekn:


Many will not like to consider these facts.

I have said before Victor O has a determination and rage that I've not seen in any player,he is relentless in his pursuit has speed and aerial ability.

On the other hand Tega has outstanding technical ability, skill and football intelligence as well as speed. We dont always associate speed with Tega because he brings so much more.

Who is faster is open to debate, Aggression is definitely with Victor O .

5inchdick:

Sadiq and Nacho who broke down Tunisia when they set out to defend at AFCON.

Karlovich:
I guess facing racism for black players born and trained in England is an obstacle but unable to get work permit for African players in England to due strict UK policy is not an obstacle.

Continue deceiving yourself, maybe you can tell me how many young African players got signed to EPL clubs from Africa and made it to their first team without being established internationals.

Nketiah also is a useless footballer and if he had been born in Ghana will be with Accra Hearts of Oak

maidaboi:
I personally will pick Osimhen over Abraham because I think he is better but Osimhen have not shown in anyway that he is better so far

Karlovich:
Some countries like Russia have quotas as well.

I know being born in Nigeria doesn't make one victim of circumstance but was just responding to Komekn's earlier comment.

Even South Americans and players from North America face similar issues in European football.

komekn:


One question is if Eddie Nketiah, after 52 games in the EPL and is only 22 no age creation, is useless what then do you call Nwakali.

Karlovich:
52 games and 5 goals as a forward, both players are crap by the way

mostob:
You get time sha...
Sometimes I don't understand how that guy analyze football.

komekn:


What has Ike got to teach him,it may be the other way round.

Karlovich:
52 games and 5 goals as a forward, both players are crap by the way