Icon4s:


Based on strength of attack/nature of opposition faced and importance of games played. Ezenwa had the strongest test. So he comes out top for me.

BascoVanVeli:


That's a lie, plenty of players have made it into the SE while playing in the NPFL even under Rohr. I have no issue with him going abroad but that should not be his mission in life he should focus on his development. Are u guaranteeing me that he is going to be good enough to play for Madrid or Barca?

Kog45:
Yes Ezenwa is ahead but despite nature of opposition it seems Rohr doesn't trust him.

jihday:
Basco, somehow and other ardent followers of the local league, with MFM bad traveling record coupled with the fact that most of their players are young academy players, do you think they'll do well on the continent? we really need to go far this time around I think since sunshine stars made it to the semifinals I'm not sure any Nigerian side have done well on the continent. we can't afford to wait for a very long time before we win it again. these North African sides no get 2 heads na and it's not like they play better than us.

BascoVanVeli:


IMO Ajiboye is simply head and shoulders above the rest when it comes to clear cut chances faced. I swear I am still recovering from those saves

Mujtahida:
Guys I got an interesting book from a WhatsApp forum I belong to on how Germany won the last WC (Title:Das reboot). If anyone is interested in the book just drop your email and I will send the book to you.

The book details how the Germans engineered the 2014 success, how they went about it deliberately, setting things up from say roughly 2002. It tells of how German players are educated to become thoroughbred professionals. It tells the story of the establishment of football academies and playing centers spread out throughout Germany in a way similar to how the RCCG church establishes a parish in every 1km (walking distance). It talks about the potpourri of human resources the Germans utilized- they even involved the German national hockey team coach, a world renowned adventurer and SAP (the largest software company in the world)

It's 289 pages, written in quite an engaging way with a happy, lighthearted tone wrapped up in simple, crisp English.

Football is no longer kick, dribble, run, score. It has become scientific, indeed almost a pure science. This much became apparent to me when due to the constant use of terms like pressing, diamond shape, tactical formations by goodjoe, Mickael2 and others. Joebie reintroduced me again to four four two online after I'd read the hardcopies long time ago. Reading four four two magazine further reinforced the view that football is an intellectual endeavour.

We are here today. Nobody knows who among us might be involved with our football tomorrow. So reading such a book can birth a dream in our hearts or at least give us insight on how things are shaping up beyond our climes. Reading Icon4s mention Osimhen in his exchange with goodjoe, I remembered the book and I think Osimhen is just now getting educated. Our footballer play football. Europeans are educated from 6 years on to play football. That's the difference between Iwobi said Osimhen. Street cannot measure up anymore to the refinements of an educated footballer. That era is long gone.

jihday:
Basco, somehow and other ardent followers of the local league, with MFM bad traveling record coupled with the fact that most of their players are young academy players, do you think they'll do well on the continent? we really need to go far this time around I think since sunshine stars made it to the semifinals I'm not sure any Nigerian side have done well on the continent. we can't afford to wait for a very long time before we win it again. these North African sides no get 2 heads na and it's not like they play better than us.

Icon4s:



"Ezenwa is ahead". That is what I am talking about. EOD.

goldfish80:


I will advice Joel Obi like I will advice my own brother. I think it was time he quit the game, he should stop punishing himself and his body.
I have a feeling he has very bad bio mechanics. Something must be patently wrong with him to suffer injuries as much as he has.
I had a friend back in school who was a very good athlete but has unfortunate bio mechanics, something about the way he walks, his body stature and movement made him prone to injures.

It is sad to see great players hang their boots very early due to injuries. I rate Marco Van Basten the greatest striker of all time but it was sad to see such a pure talent quit the game at just 27 due to niggling injuries.

Joel Obi must talk to his family and come to the best decision in his own interest. There's life after football.
His body needs a rest. If he doesn't obey his body, he will definitely not enjoy old age.

Icon4s:


I am lying? aside Ezenwa which NPFL player has made any match day squad under Rohr?

His going to play abroad is it not to get better development opportunity?

If he stays in the NPFL he stands a less chance of getting that development.

And I didn't guarantee he will be good enough for the Madrid or Barca, I only said he may be nursing that dream/ ambition and he has every right to.

Kog45:
But my question why is Rohr not satisfied with Ezenwa.

BascoVanVeli:


Chisom Egbuchalam made the squad in Zambia. I am not saying players should not go abroad but develop them first. Look at Alhassan Ibrahim, instead of wasting his time globetrotting Europe on trials he played in the NPFL and in that time he even got a call for the national team and when he left he was able to walk right into the first team of an Austrian side and start against AC Milan in the Europa League. If he didn't wait to the develop in the league he might till this day have still been going on trials.

Fidelis Ilechukwu is a good coach and has proven with Stephen Odey that he is a good player developer. The boy is in good hands.

Kog45:
Truly those chances were daring and it takes a good keepers to save them,Ajiboye did well,let see him more against Morocco.

somehow:
Most of their players aren't academy players, most are pros.

Doing well on the continent is another ball game entirely. Their debut and I am not expecting anything from them. If they achieve anything, then they have tried.

Icon4s:


Chisom Egbuchulam. Just one player from all the NPFL players and in all the WC qualifiers. Yet you say I am lying.

Look I am not saying he should not start his trade in the NPFL. Recall I said he should have his early development here and then move to Europe. What you are defending I don't understand self.

andrew444:


Uduokai is not bad,but sorry not a world class prospect yet okay stop hyping someone you have not watch his game,he played only 17 times in the bundesliga 2017,you guys just feel any half cast is always good and automatic,if he is want to play for Nigeria after World Cup he should come for the qualifiers,if he was invited will he come? Just the way Ekong and balogun did,una want monkey dey work baboon dey chop

Kog45:
OK you are right but with what we have seen so far.

Akpeyi against South Africa, Argentina,

Uzoho against Argentina,

Ezenwa against Cameroon,Zambia, Algeria,Angola

Ajiboye against Guinea, Sudan,

Pls pick your number one

somehow:
I think the person i quoted called the player above average and a world class prospect and i challenged that notion. Are you referring to that comment?

TheGoodJoe:


Screen and select the best. Age, Experience or club status is just sentimental selection. We need the best in goal.

Finito.

Icon4s:


Match day condition is different from training conditions bro. That is my point.

BascoVanVeli:


U asked for one player boss. Or do u want to change your question after asking it?

I am not defending anything, I just said Europe should not be the focus concerning the young man but development.
I wasn't arguing with u from the beginning I only said that we should be developing our players at home if all was well with our structure.

Mujtahida:

Abeg your email address again

Mujtahida:

Abeg your email address again

TheGoodJoe:


But now, all is not well with our Structure. It is even terrible to the point the players do not even have good pitches to train on.

The best bet is to export our best talents for nurturing and grooming in the best academies and clubs until we fix our development Structure.

TheGoodJoe:

If a player is poor in training, there is no Super power to make him better in match day condition.

Icon4s:


If Akpeyi was poor in training do you think Rohr and his crew would still have such vested confidence in him?

BascoVanVeli:


U asked for one player boss. Or do u want to change your question after asking it?

I am not defending anything, I just said Europe should not be the focus concerning the young man but development.
I wasn't arguing with u from the beginning I only said that we should be developing our players at home if all was well with our structure.

TheGoodJoe:


He never stood out in training. Alampasu was ahead followed by Ezenwa. So no need putting Rohr in the equation because Rohr showed he did not like and trust the Goalkeeper trainer of the team, Alloy Agu and brought in a foreigner.

Finito.

Icon4s:


I can see as you are a member of the technical crew.

TheGoodJoe:


But now, all is not well with our Structure. It is even terrible to the point the players do not even have good pitches to train on.

The best bet is to export our best talents for nurturing and grooming in the best academies and clubs until we fix our development Structure.

TheGoodJoe:


Rohr showed his distaste by bringing in a foreigner to work with the keepers. If not, we would not be talking Ajiboye today.