AIG07:

I hope he(H. Broos) stay on the job.

I do believe that preparation is 'a' step to success n
A known enemy is far better than unknown friend.

A reshuffling of the the camerounians coaching crew 'may' be our undoing as complacency will set in and will affect our preparation.

Remember the new coach will bring new, tactics, approach and players who will want to impress their fans...thereby making them hardnut to crack.

We should not be carried away with what happened wit the Algerians-this is Cameroun.

TheGoodJoe:


I am waiting. Explain how Ighalo lost form despite regular playing time. If Playing time guarantees top form and confidence.

TheGoodJoe:


Also explain to me how Caballero's (Manchester City's goalkeeper) passing improved without playing much games.

TheGoodJoe:


I am waiting. Explain how Ighalo lost form despite regular playing time. If Playing time guarantees top form and confidence.

tbaba1234:
An associate of Iheanacho has said "enquiries have come in already" for Kelechi and that he could leave "on loan or permanently." [ESPN]

TheGoodJoe:


The cold hard truth is that it is easy to pass a low quality defender into a top team than a more advance player. That is why players like Jones, Evans, Smalling and Callum Chambers landed deals in big clubs.

When Villas-Boas played John Terry in a high line, he was reminiscent of the John Terryble we used to know. Very poor but that is a player who is one of the tops in the history of the EPL. Stay deep, kick and puff. That was why Mancini dropped Lescott for Nastastic.

Our defenders are better on the ball than some of these players in the so called big leagues and clubs. They find it difficult to break in because of the amount of room for wack players to shine.

komekn:


Cream always rises to the top, eventually top players will get noticed and will be recognised with a move to a top club.

Callum Chambers is a product of the manipulation and packaging of average players marketed as exceptional.
However, I don't think that Smalling and Jones are mediocre. Defenders in England are expected to defend first and the play second.

Your proposition is not entirely true. We still find the best CB defenders in the top clubs. Yes, a few lemons do get through but the quality CB's are still predominantly in the top clubs.

enomakos:
he shall leave permanently

robosky02:
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komekn:


Cream always rises to the top, eventually top players will get noticed and will be recognised with a move to a top club.

Callum Chambers is a product of the manipulation and packaging of average players marketed as exceptional.
However, I don't think that Smalling and Jones are mediocre. Defenders in England are expected to defend first and the play second.

Your proposition is not entirely true. We still find the best CB defenders in the top clubs. Yes, a few lemons do get through but the quality CB's are still predominantly in the top clubs.

zicky:
Players trained with the aim of playing and not the other way round.
You talk as if Caballero was the only one training and Bravo don't attend training sessions.
The case of Caballero and Bravo is what we say "wetin you dey find for sokoto, e dey for your shokoto"

TheGoodJoe:


You did not answer the question and just rambled. Caballero has improved in his passing massively. His long balls are not crisp but his short passing is very impressive. He improved on the training pitch.

Look at your first sentence and you see the hole in it. Players train to IMPROVE to get playing time. Not playing time to improve. The training comes first. A big important factor.

zicky:
Caballero trained to improve, then what was Bravo doing, did he stop training

Training come first but Playing time the ultimate

zicky:
Caballero trained to improve, then what was Bravo doing, did he stop training

Training come first but Playing time the ultimate

Kog45:
U nailed it,we don't need to generalise issues when we are talking of quality CB or defenders in general.

As u have said,quality defenders are still predominantly in d top clubs.I don't think we have defenders who are better than Chris Smalling and Jones Evans though i don't rate d duo but we need to be candid.

Apart from Leon Balogun that is showing d class and with injury free is a defender to d top,pls watch Algeria match and u notice what am saying.

The present Super Eagle defenders need to raise their game so that they can attract top clubs coz we need it in our national team but having our defenders struggling in smaller clubs is out of it.

I remember Eagles produced top class defenders like Taribo West(Inter Milan,Ac Milan)Celestine Babayaro(Chelsea,Anderlecht,Newcastle)Joseph Yobo(Marseille,Everton)Stephen Keshi(Anderlecht)Chidi Nwanu(Anderlecht)Taiye Taiwo(Merseile,Ac Milan)Uche Okechucwu(Fernabache)Chidi Odiah(CSKA Moscow)Godwin Opara(PSG)just to mention a few.

My man i love your analysis,no matter what we still have largest percentage of top quality defenders at d top clubs though we still have average ones who find their way to d top but this is not peculiar to defenders alone.

Did you notice that your list cut through generations?

Should I give you the list of English defenders playing in the English Premier League?

TheGoodJoe:


Playing time is the Ultimate what?

Please, we are talking with respect to players improving. Note, Young player in question in this debate.

zicky:
Not just young players, our national team players. It will be very hard to convince to accept a national team player sitting on the bench in the name of improving in training.

zicky:
Not just young players, our national team players. It will be very hard to convince to accept a national team player sitting on the bench in the name of improving in training.

zicky:
Not just young players, our national team players. It will be very hard to convince to accept a national team player sitting on the bench in the name of improving in training.

otezu5:
Lambert Hails Ikeme, Enobakhare’s Showings In Wolves Defeat To Wigan


Wolverhampton Wanderers coach, Paul Lambert, has again praised Nigerian goalkeeper Carl Ikeme and his compatriot, Bright Enobakhare, for their brilliant performance in Tuesday's 1-0 loss to Wigan Athletic in the Sky Bet Championship, reports Completesportsnigeria.com.

Ikeme conceded his 30th goal of the English Football League – Championship season after Jake Buxton leapt high to head home a late corner for Wigan to stun Wolves.


And Lambert admits his side didn't deserve to win the game and also concedes that letting in a late goal was ‘poor’.

"It was really disappointing and I’m angry as well in the manner that we’ve lost the game," he begins in his post match interview.

"In any football game, you've got to earn the right to win the game and we’ve never earned the right to win that game – that’s the disappointing thing.


"Again, Carl Ikeme had one save to make and then we end up losing the game.

"I’ve got no problem with playing the kids … and Bright (Enobakhare) was very good himself."

It was Wolves' 32nd defeat of the campaign which sees them dropping to 18th position in the EFL Championship table with 35 points from 31 games.

Ikeme has made 26 appearances, keeping seven clean sheets.


Lambert whose side face Chelsea in the Emirates FA Cup on Saturday, adds that the Wolves will have to play much better if they must get any chance of progressing to the next round of the Cup.

"If you don't know what you're going into on Saturday, you'll never know,” Lambert continues.

"They won’t need me to say what kind of game it’s going to be like or what kind of team they're going to come up against.

"It’s a game where we will do what we can to try and go through – we’re going to have to play incredibly well and they will have to have an off-day, but Cup football can happen."

Read more at http://www.completesportsnigeria.com/lambert-hails-ikeme-enobakhares-showings-wolves-defeat-wigan/#LH8aou6Xr2vI6yiR.99

TheGoodJoe:


You still did not answer. You used Ultimate to describe playing time. So tell me what you mean by Playing time is the Ultimate... .. .

TheGoodJoe:


I am not convincing you. I am showing you life analogies. I am talking of young players in general. Even a senior player like Caballero could improve in training. Leroy Sane improved in training and you are talking convince you.

Not hard to convince me.

TheGoodJoe:


Smalling and Jones are in no way to quality midfielders. Their success and reign can only stay in the EPL, where kick and push is the other of the day. You can not find these type of players in teams that express themselves during play. Can you see Jones and Smalling playing in teams like Juventus and Roma? These guys will not thrive in a high line pattern. Just defend. That makes it easy to push this kind of players.

How many English defenders today do you know can hold the ball like Stones? Meanwhile, Stones is not up there with some of the best in the game today. So, it is easier to drop a quality defending talent and push the likes Stones but difficult to push the many quality defending talents in Nigeria.

It is harder. Then add the English work permit rule to that.

I am talking of English clubs. Not top clubs. Very hard for most English defenders to become stars at Barcelona but Evans kept Pique on the bench at Manchester United.

TheGoodJoe:


Smalling and Jones are in no way to quality midfielders. Their success and reign can only stay in the EPL, where kick and push is the other of the day. You can not find these type of players in teams that express themselves during play. Can you see Jones and Smalling playing in teams like Juventus and Roma? These guys will not thrive in a high line pattern. Just defend. That makes it easy to push this kind of players.

How many English defenders today do you know can hold the ball like Stones? Meanwhile, Stones is not up there with some of the best in the game today. So, it is easier to drop a quality defending talent and push the likes Stones but difficult to push the many quality defending talents in Nigeria.

It is harder. Then add the English work permit rule to that.

I am talking of English clubs. Not top clubs. Very hard for most English defenders to become stars at Barcelona but Evans kept Pique on the bench at Manchester United.

PietroRico:
Smallling and Jones are different kind of defenders. While what you just said may be true for Smallling, it Is not for Jones.
Jones is not a ball shy defender, and has played in midfield several times, plus he's not slow..
There's absolutely no reason to suggest he will fail in a team like Roma.. lol or high defensive line system

DrinkWater10:

forget all this ball holding talk. Smalling and Jones Bally Rojo and even Blind are better defenders than stones.
Bally because of his experience in laliga alongside blind are much better ball players than john stones.
Go and watch Everton last season stones was consistently benched by Martinez because he couldnt do his basic duty which is defending.
man city were made to believe that there was competition for his signature among top sides in the league but the truth Is united, arsenal and chelsea secured better players at lower cost.
To think you thought that stones would make it in other leagues ahead of Jones nd smalling is even more surprising.
even Johny Evans is a better than john stones as on current form.
Aug 2016 https://www.reddit.com/r/MCFC/comments/4nzgxx/am_i_the_only_one_who_does_not_want_john_stones/
PS To say that Jones and Smalling will not start in As Roma is also quite laughable because John Fecking Stones would never get into the current Everton eleven.
If not that Eric Bally followed Didier Drogba's advice nd moved to united Stones would still be on Everton s bench who knows?

Na wa for you. You jumped in without even understanding the debate.

Rojo, Bailly and Blind are wonderful. I prefer them to Stones any day.

Coolu Temper.

I am talking of English defenders, compared to other defenders from other countries.

We are talking about why we do not have our defenders playing in top leagues and most especially the EPL.

I said, the English general style of defending makes it easy for a limited footballer like Evans to keep a quality player like Pique on the bench in Manchester United.

As for Stones and Everton, he will actually fit in because he has good ability on the ball. With a coach like Ronald Koeman who was brilliant on the ball as a defending footballer in his days, he would mould Stones to perform well. No doubt about that. Although, Koeman is doing a fantastic job with Ashley Williams. He really remoulded the guy into an outstanding player.



Funny.

zicky:
Training is what your coach see, playing time is what the world see. There's no player in the world that don't train, what stand top players is what they can do in match situation not what they do in training. You don't win accolades by being a training material Bro