Joshthefirst:
That we are against each other in infinitely aggressive arguments does not mean we are against each other in progress bloda.

In the end, we want to see progress in this country all the same, whether I am a mighty tall christian like kingebukasblog or an athletic intellectual like johnydon22 or a little squirt atheist like Logicbwoy or a guarded feminist like kay17 or an old undecided man like plaetton or a troll like sonoflucifer.

KingEbukasBlog:


shut up engineer

bro you dont have to let us that your comment was modified .. lol

CoolUsername:


I make my modification process transparent to let people who may have already read my post know that a change has been made.

johnydon22:
Hey Ann.. being long we talked dearie

analice107:
You no get my time nah.

johnydon22:

No not that. have been a bit busy, will call you. Hope you are good?

analice107:

Am good. OK, will be waiting for your call. How's your bea?

analice107:
Am good. OK, will be waiting for your call. How's your bea?

CoolUsername:


I make my modification process transparent to let people who may have already read my post know that a change has been made.

KingEbukasBlog:


You talk like they have any presently

Joshthefirst:
And that's why you're a nerd

Logicbwoy:



How could you say that when almost all of your threads have been debunked by atheists?

KingEbukasBlog:


all my threads . I guess this is your own way of asking me to have a taste of the weed you smoke , No thanks

Logicbwoy:



Seriously?

Is nairaland the only forum you use?

Joshthefirst:
... or a troll like sonoflucifer.

cloudgoddess:

Why doesn't god give man the guidance to fix our country? Isn't that what prayer is for? Asking god to help you?
People have been asking god to help, nigeria is one of the most prayerful countries, and yet he isn't helping. Whereas places like china and netherlands and japan where they don't pray, yet they are prospering. If he would prefer to leave prayerful humans to f**k themselves over, yet allow non-prayerful humans to prosper, what is the point of prayer and why does the bible say "ask and you shall be given?"

Also, the free-will argument is debatable. God (supposedly) created us KNOWING the mental processes & emotional tendencies that lead to these problems in the first place (greed, anger, fear, etc) -- and the types of horrible atrocities that would result (since he knows the future). He gave us brains capable of feeling all of these things and acting on them under certain conditions & upbringing. Why didn't he just give us brains that were immune to greed, for example? That would have easily prevented the situation that you just described. He did not have to place these mental tendencies there in the first place.

He could have created human beings only capable of feeling compassion, love, honesty, tenderness. If he made our brains that way, so many problems, so much poverty, and so much death would be avoided. But he didn't. He purposely gave us flawed brains, and then, according to you, placed the blame on us for falling victim to the same brains he created. How exactly is that loving?

Joshthefirst:
someone's sarcasm meter is faulty

plaetton:
I still struggle to understand religious beliefs and faith .

I mean, Nigerians are a very prayerful people.
Infact, we spend a good portion of time praying for supernatural blessings and interventions in our daily affairs, to the point where it seems like a psychological addiction.

Like all addictions, we hardly take a minute to take stock, audit or re- evaluate our positions and our acts.

Now, there has been Chaos, a complete breakdown of the primary arteries of life and the economy in Nigeria for the past 2 months.

Where is the hand of God in all of this suffering , considering that we spend a lot of time and money whispering , shouting and beseeching God every hour, every day to save us from all the inconveniences of life ?

I am just trying to figure out what role religion plays in the lives of people who live ,struggle and suffer as we do here in Nigeria.

Is religion a necessary palliative for the suffering and confused masses, or an integral part of the Nigerian psyche which, itself , produces the type of chaos we see here ?

stonemasonn:
deep down no body really cares about the current chaotic state of things in the country, a typical Nigerian prays for fast and easy wealth so that he can own his house, a big generator and an American passport, with a large bank account we cares about phcn naira fall and fuel scarcity.

Oluwaseytiano:
never knew u were this friendly. Am sorry

analice107:

Hahahahahahahaha. Hello dear, pls don't judge us by what you see here Ooo. Here is a battle field. We have friends here, but we still batch ourselves. Outside here, we laugh and hug. It's maturity.

stonemasonn:
deep down no body really cares about the current chaotic state of things in the country, a typical Nigerian prays for fast and easy wealth so that he can own his house, a big generator and an American passport, with a large bank account we cares about phcn naira fall and fuel scarcity.

plaetton:
I still struggle to understand religious beliefs and faith .

I mean, Nigerians are a very prayerful people.
Infact, we spend a good portion of time praying for supernatural blessings and interventions in our daily affairs, to the point where it seems like a psychological addiction.

Like all addictions, we hardly take a minute to take stock, audit or re- evaluate our positions and our acts.

Now, there has been Chaos, a complete breakdown of the primary arteries of life and the economy in Nigeria for the past 2 months.

Where is the hand of God in all of this suffering , considering that we spend a lot of time and money whispering , shouting and beseeching God every hour, every day to save us from all the inconveniences of life ?

I am just trying to figure out what role religion plays in the lives of people who live ,struggle and suffer as we do here in Nigeria.

Is religion a necessary palliative for the suffering and confused masses, or an integral part of the Nigerian psyche which, itself , produces the type of chaos we see here ?

malvisguy212:
If mankind were to follow God's instruction, do you think their would be suffering ? Every man has corrupted his or her own way. Do you want God to oppose His will on us ? For if God were to intervene in the matter of suffering, would He not also intervene in the matter of sin? If He did, He would have to be a dictator. Then how would
we react? Can anyone claim he or she has never sin before ? Do you want God to be fair or be merciful ? I tell you the truth, if you want God to be fair, then He will have to punish All sins we have ever committed, NONE will be alive. We would not want that, and according to the Bible, God doesn't want it either.

God wants us to obey Him because we want to, not because we have to. And in order to
accomplish this, He must allow two things to happen. First, in order to grant us free choice, He must provide us with graphic examples of the consequences of the wrong choice.
Secondly, He must allow injustices and sufferings; otherwise he'd provide sinful mankind with every blessing and benefit without restriction. If everything in this life was fair, good and happy, what need would there be to seek a better life? Why would we seek a Deliverer, if there was nothing to be delivered
from? Suffering is not something that ought to turn people away from God, but draw them to Him.

cloudgoddess:

Why doesn't god give man the guidance to fix our country? Isn't that what prayer is for? Asking god to help you?
People have been asking god to help, nigeria is one of the most prayerful countries, and yet he isn't helping. Whereas places like china and netherlands and japan where they don't pray, yet they are prospering. If he would prefer to leave prayerful humans to f**k themselves over, yet allow non-prayerful humans to prosper, what is the point of prayer and why does the bible say "ask and you shall be given?"

Also, the free-will argument is debatable. God (supposedly) created us KNOWING the mental processes & emotional tendencies that lead to these problems in the first place (greed, anger, fear, etc) -- and the types of horrible atrocities that would result (since he knows the future). He gave us brains capable of feeling all of these things and acting on them under certain conditions & upbringing. Why didn't he just give us brains that were immune to greed, for example? That would have easily prevented the situation that you just described. He did not have to place these mental tendencies there in the first place.

He could have created human beings only capable of feeling compassion, love, honesty, tenderness. If he made our brains that way, so many problems, so much poverty, and so much death would be avoided. But he didn't. He purposely gave us flawed brains, and then, according to you, placed the blame on us for falling victim to the same brains he created. How exactly is that loving?

plaetton:


Lol.
My God, the Toothfairy, has been telling me to be a good boy since childhood. He even rewards me with $3.75 ( inflation adjusted), every year.

Infact, most of humankind's problems begin when they grow up and start listening to Yahweh and other middle East gods, instead of maintaining their steadfast simple devotion to the simple ways of the Toothfairy.

Infact, if we had all continued to listen to middle God's, we would have sooner destroyed ourselves, killing men, women and children for God.

orunto27:
God will soon show up.

malvisguy212:
If mankind were to follow God's instruction, do you think their would be suffering ? Every man has corrupted his or her own way. Do you want God to oppose His will on us ? For if God were to intervene in the matter of suffering, would He not also intervene in the matter of sin? If He did, He would have to be a dictator. Then how would
we react? Can anyone claim he or she has never sin before ? Do you want God to be fair or be merciful ? I tell you the truth, if you want God to be fair, then He will have to punish All sins we have ever committed, NONE will be alive. We would not want that, and according to the Bible, God doesn't want it either.

God wants us to obey Him because we want to, not because we have to. And in order to
accomplish this, He must allow two things to happen. First, in order to grant us free choice, He must provide us with graphic examples of the consequences of the wrong choice.
Secondly, He must allow injustices and sufferings; otherwise he'd provide sinful mankind with every blessing and benefit without restriction. If everything in this life was fair, good and happy, what need would there be to seek a better life? Why would we seek a Deliverer, if there was nothing to be delivered
from? Suffering is not something that ought to turn people away from God, but draw them to Him.

malvisguy212:
you are wrong , I believe you are christian before you abandon the faith, I tell you, you don't even know the purpose of God creating you. World peace is not among the agenda of God, we are only advice to make peace with God, the bible say friendship with the world is enmity with God. As long as God allow you to make a choice, will you love your enemy ? NO, you can't , but the bible say Love your enemy. A God of love wants the whole world to operate in love, but could you force someone to love you? Their is suffering because we chose to go against God will.