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Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by poiZon: 4:09pm On Apr 12, 2016
qtx:
wait o, how old are u? pls dont be offended cheesy

u dey ask question abi na interview?
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by EbukaFran: 4:10pm On Apr 12, 2016
vigasimple:


You are the one talking nonsense. It was GEJ government that conceived and signed the MOU for the Lagos to Calabar rail line.

The 'ommission' in the budget is deliberate as Buhari is known to be the President of the North. A born to rule Fulani man.

Buhari cancelled the Lagos metro in 1984 and pay the equivalent of the contract price with zero asset. These things are deliberate

This is a skewed analysis

I'm tired of listening to Jonathanians always refering to policies or projects conceived by GEJ , that is total nonsense

It is one thing to conceive or formulate a policy, however, the most important thing is the implementation. For example, the TSA was initiated by Jonathan but the ineffectual buffoon did not have the strength of character to adopt and implement it because the TSA is against the interest of his corrupt friends.

The Chinese are now ready to implement the refinery construction now despite the fact that the discussions started in 2014. They just did not trust GEJ.

Your opinion about Buhari is affecting your sense of objectivity. Your hatred for him will not remove him from power sir

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Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by Kingspin(m): 4:13pm On Apr 12, 2016
EbukaFran:
Rubbish analysis by a bigoted PDP supporter

The article is very biased and an attempt at Wailing

The same APC government you accuse of incompetence and hatred for the SE/SS, made provision for a coastal rail infrastructure between Lagos and Calabar- benefiting several SE and SS states

The efforts of the government is being frustrated by selfish senators who want Buhari to fail

It is an effort in futility. Buhari will rule till 2023 whether you like it or not
Hold your sense, your comment is not connecting.
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by onetouch04: 4:14pm On Apr 12, 2016
EbukaFran:
Rubbish analysis by a bigoted PDP supporter

The article is very biased and an attempt at Wailing

The same APC government you accuse of incompetence and hatred for the SE/SS, made provision for a coastal rail infrastructure between Lagos and Calabar- benefiting several SE and SS states

The efforts of the government is being frustrated by selfish senators who want Buhari to fail

It is an effort in futility. Buhari will rule till 2023 whether you like it or not
Spot on guy. A message well driven home. Though the wailers will always wail.
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by itstpia8: 4:15pm On Apr 12, 2016
the discussions started in 2014



ok, I found this:


https://www.nairaland.com/1885182/lagos-to-calabar-railway-line-approved-fg



not ringing a bell at all however, cant say I heard of it.
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by onetouch04: 4:30pm On Apr 12, 2016
EbukaFran:


This is a skewed analysis

I'm tired of listening to Jonathanians always refering to policies or projects conceived by GEJ , that is total nonsense

It is one thing to conceive or formulate a policy, however, the most important thing is the implementation. For example, the TSA was initiated by Jonathan but the ineffectual buffoon did not have the strength of character to adopt and implement it because the TSA is against the interest of his corrupt friends.

The Chinese are now ready to implement the refinery construction now despite the fact that the discussions started in 2014. They just did not trust GEJ.

Your opinion about Buhari is affecting your sense of objectivity. Your hatred for him will not remove him from power sir
Every discernible mind need not be told that PDP have some evil up their sleeves. They just dont want the budget to pass so that it will delay to june/july when they always presented their budgets. Also, they have seen Buhari's road map and agenda which they know that if allowed easy passage, would surpass GEJ's record of six years if at all he has anything to show for it.
As for SE senators, is a big shame on them. Tomorrow they will say we re being marginalised. Now a carismatic president wants to put them on the map of the country, which PDP has almost deleted in d last administration and they are all seated there like morrons without brains.
Baba for 2023.
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by shearer1982(m): 4:50pm On Apr 12, 2016
People just argue blindly tired of hearing all this rubbish, come to think of it the the Calabar Lagos project that was omitted was due to so many budget version that we have so those that are calling for amechi to resign are not well inform get you facts right before commenting.!
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by coolbis: 4:53pm On Apr 12, 2016
EbukaFran:
Rubbish analysis by a bigoted PDP supporter

The article is very biased and an attempt at Wailing

The same APC government you accuse of incompetence and hatred for the SE/SS, made provision for a coastal rail infrastructure between Lagos and Calabar- benefiting several SE and SS states

The efforts of the government is being frustrated by selfish senators who want Buhari to fail

It is an effort in futility. Buhari will rule till 2023 whether you like it or not
these wailers are becoming so dangerous and big issue to national security. They are ready to go all way to ensure that there is no stability in the country. They cook all kinds of unreasonable stories to incite their naive supporters against the government of the day. They have stolen so much that they can easily buy over the media, and use idiotic social-media warriors to perpetrate their evil act. Therefore its pertinent for the government of the day to keep a close eye on these characters like FFK,FAYOSE and the likes. They stand to lose nothing seeing nigeria goes up in flame, as much as they achieve their political gains.
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by delvinmaya(m): 5:39pm On Apr 12, 2016
Yawns. All I see is someone staring his opinion and people disagreeing with him, basing their disagreement on their perception that the OP is a PDP supporter.

It's a shame that this is what we are reduced to, a people so intent and he'll bent on self destruction. So divided than ever, and so vindictive. I wonder if most peeps here are blind to reality on ground. Every single individual is affected by every decision taken by the FG, their actions and inactions paves the path the country takes.

Any serious government avoids errors and in case of errors own up to their errors, they don't shift blame, they face up to their responsibilities. Unfortunately the present FG is going about things the wrong way.

So what are the facts on ground?
The first budget had the rail missing. Why? Did the government then go about having it put back in the right way?

For the NASS, are the senators actually working or being ineffectual and getting paid for it? Who is to blame? Who takes responsibility and whose head will roll. I believe these should be our questions. Instead most are screaming wailers and zombies! Both zombie and wailer reside in the same country and are faced with the same issues, yet they refuse to reason together and demand their rights, demand justice, demand equity.

Jeez!!!

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Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by amaechi1: 6:20pm On Apr 12, 2016
The uniting factor is money and it is more flow from executive hence, the political class are not happy.
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by whitebeard(m): 6:32pm On Apr 12, 2016
guys seriously not interested..stop this railway stuff..building it one..maintain it is two..I don't think dey can truly guarantee us two..!! undecidedguys seriously not interested..stop this railway stuff..building it one..maintain it is two..I don't think dey can truly guarantee us two..!!
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by caphone: 6:53pm On Apr 12, 2016
Are these the real facts or yo facts? Iongerit sad
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by amtaken(f): 7:17pm On Apr 12, 2016
APC is suffering from two diseases known as karma and bad luck.
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by Kennydoc(m): 7:21pm On Apr 12, 2016
Ballmer:
Writer like this OP is why I continuously wonder if the brains of over 99% Igbo on NL is not damaged



Can anyone see how articulate the OP is with his post yet he does not have the intelligence to figure out the only senator that as spoken out on the inclusion of the budget is Gbenga Ashafa from the SouthWest. He can not comprehend every other senator that as spoken against the inclusion either through the back or front door as been from the SE/SS.

This OP can write so well but lack the intelligence to understand a northerner senator would have shut his or her mouth not minding the project was sneaked in tru the window or back door so long it is beneficial to his regions or tribe he'd support it.






While this OP is clearly right about the gaffe from the president and the minister what happened to his medula that should remind him that the reason why we have the supplementary budget is simply because the gaffe in the initial budget were outrageous and untenable which necessitated the need for the now acceptable supplementary budget yet he based his argument on a document already discarded by the senate. A document which was aslo confirmed by the presidency as a fraud.


Will the OP claim he does not understand this I doubt and this bring us back to what exactly is wrong with the reasoning of some of the Igbo's on NL and why instead of appreciating what is beneficial to them would rather antagonize these laudable incentives just to spite Buhari.


While the OP might be right about the dangers of having warring faction in the APC it should be noted the party is bound to suffer more from any effect of their disunity than Nigeria. In fact I believe this is a blessing in disguise to keep the polilooters from both the APC n PDP in check. The adage only a thief can trace the footpath of another thief does justice to this notion.


The Saraki looting crew will always be mindful of every financial transaction it undertake while it continously seek space at disgracing any gaffe from the Buhari/Tinubu crew. Nigeria can only be the winner with such a situation.

Your hatred for Igbos is glaring. It's terribly crazy!
Are you aware that that rail line traverses South West and South South, but merely touches the borders of South East at 2 points. It means it won't make a lot of sense using that rail line to travel from Onitsha to Aba because the distance will be far more than the road distance, but you can use it to travel from Calabar to Benin or from Ore to Lagos, and it won't be father than going by road.
Yet in all these things, you chose to focus your attack on Igbos. Despite all you hatred on Igbos, we will keep moving forward. Let that sink into your head.

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Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by Nobody: 7:55pm On Apr 12, 2016
This poster is talking PDP. For his info and others, two sitting senators, Senator Ashaffa (in a press conference) and John Okon Eno (Cross River) have already come out to confirm that the Lagos to Calabar coastal rail project was indeed part of the amended budget (although wasn't in the main budget proposal sent to the senate) which the committee on transport approved and thereafter defended before the committee on appropriation for inclusion in the main budget document. It was from this point that politricks crept into the matter and the Lagos to Calabar project was dropped to deny southern Nigeria people the benefits of such a mega project. Obviously, some mischievous senators felt APC will become too too popular with such a project in the south south which they have always wrongly claimed to be so called 'PDP states'. A claim that will easily be punctured if elections are free and fair without PDP rigging with the usual terrorism and bloodshed the party is generally known for since 1999.
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by Topshow2010(m): 12:05am On Apr 13, 2016
Ballmer:
Writer like this OP is why I continuously wonder if the brains of over 99% Igbo on NL is not damaged



Can anyone see how articulate the OP is with his post yet he does not have the intelligence to figure out the only senator that as spoken out on the inclusion of the budget is Gbenga Ashafa from the SouthWest. He can not comprehend every other senator that as spoken against the inclusion either through the back or front door as been from the SE/SS.

This OP can write so well but lack the intelligence to understand a northerner senator would have shut his or her mouth not minding the project was sneaked in tru the window or back door so long it is beneficial to his regions or tribe he'd support it.






While this OP is clearly right about the gaffe from the president and the minister what happened to his medula that should remind him that the reason why we have the supplementary budget is simply because the gaffe in the initial budget were outrageous and untenable which necessitated the need for the now acceptable supplementary budget yet he based his argument on a document already discarded by the senate. A document which was aslo confirmed by the presidency as a fraud.


Will the OP claim he does not understand this I doubt and this bring us back to what exactly is wrong with the reasoning of some of the Igbo's on NL and why instead of appreciating what is beneficial to them would rather antagonize these laudable incentives just to spite Buhari.


While the OP might be right about the dangers of having warring faction in the APC it should be noted the party is bound to suffer more from any effect of their disunity than Nigeria. In fact I believe this is a blessing in disguise to keep the polilooters from both the APC n PDP in check. The adage only a thief can trace the footpath of another thief does justice to this notion.


The Saraki looting crew will always be mindful of every financial transaction it undertake while it continously seek space at disgracing any gaffe from the Buhari/Tinubu crew. Nigeria can only be the winner with such a situation.




Gbam!God bless u bro.Let's meet at tarmac;5 Origins for u
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by Ballmer: 1:19am On Apr 17, 2016
Kennydoc:


Your hatred for Igbos is glaring. It's terribly crazy!
Are you aware that that rail line traverses South West and South South, but merely touches the borders of South East at 2 points. It means it won't make a lot of sense using that rail line to travel from Onitsha to Aba because the distance will be far more than the road distance, but you can use it to travel from Calabar to Benin or from Ore to Lagos, and it won't be father than going by road.
Yet in all these things, you chose to focus your attack on Igbos. Despite all you hatred on Igbos, we will keep moving forward. Let that sink into your head.

When will you Igbo's learn to be rational ?

Why do you not ask the rail should pass through your bedroom before you can be thrilled. Even poeple had to move to where it could be beneficial to them.

Train is not tricycle that stops anywhere your heart desire. In a third world nation like Nigeria local build towards maximizing the benefit of ths two bother town the train touched in the East instead of lamenting
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by Kennydoc(m): 12:03pm On Apr 17, 2016
Ballmer:


When will you Igbo's learn to be rational ?

Why do you not ask the rail should pass through your bedroom before you can be thrilled. Even poeple had to move to where it could be beneficial to them.

Train is not tricycle that stops anywhere your heart desire. In a third world nation like Nigeria local build towards maximizing the benefit of ths two bother town the train touched in the East instead of lamenting

Did you bother to find out why I wrote what I wrote? What's your problem?
You were busy attacking Igbos for the fact that senators from the south failed to push for the rail project. I was only trying to make you realise that that rail is even of more importance to the SW and SS than it is to the SE, therefore the focus of your attack on Igbos isn't justified.
Read and reason before responding.
Thanks.
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by Ariani: 12:24pm On Apr 17, 2016
That rail is of no use to Ndiigbo, all it will do is to increase the dependency on Lagos. It will reinforce Lagos monopoly over port activities in Nigeria by eliminating need for Opening of the much needed Eastern ports and possible expansion of the East towards our natural trade routes of central Africa via Cameroun.


Yorubas are the ones that need that rail to maintain Lagos monopolistic grip on the nation.


Money to be spent on the useless railway line should be invested in opening up one or more Eastern ports to the standard necessary for any ship cargo, no matter what size can easily anchor.

This is my take on this matter.
Re: The Lagos Calabar Rail Controversy: What everyone should know by chukel(m): 1:39pm On Apr 17, 2016
Op, if you are a southerner, then a cow's brain is better than yours. U see nothing wrong in the insertion and appropriation of new road projects sited in the north by the chairmen of appropriation committees in both senate and HOR. Mind you, those roads were not in the original budget, were not presented to works committee members during defence, were not "smuggled" in by the executives but was done by 2 men. But u see everything wrong in a rail track that was not in the original budget but was added during the defence before the senate committee. You hate yourself of you are from the south

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