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THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by AntiIPOOP(m): 11:17am On Apr 15, 2016
The school cert holder has done what a PhD holder could not.

Very simple economics. We buy most of our goods from China, so why must we pay the Chinese in dollars? The Chinese buy a lot of crude oil from us, so why must they pay us in dollars?

So PMB made a deal with the Chinese. We pay for the goods we buy from China in Yuan, the Chinese currency. They buy our crude oil and pay in Yuan.

The exchange rate is to be pegged at 30 Naira to one Yuan or RMB.

So how does it favour us? Simple.

The Yuan is now 6.48 to a dollar. So if you pay 30 Naira to the Yuan, that would be equivalent to 194.4 Naira to the dollar.

Since the dollar exchanges for 199 Naira, you save N4.6. 199 - 194.4 = 4.6. Simple, huh?

In simple terms, PMB has just strengthened the Naira by 9.15%!

And that's not the end of the story. As we begin to deal in the Yuan, the demand for dollar would plummet and this in turn would weaken the dollar. It would crash to around 140 Naira to the dollar.

May God bless PMB.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by sorextee(m): 11:23am On Apr 15, 2016
lets all do our foreign transaction in yuan then.. since the the whole world is dependent on the FREEMASONIC DOLLAR. what PMB did is what they call THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.. this is to note that we also import most of our goods from china.. i hope and pray it wont be counter-productive in the long run..

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by IkusikaT(m): 11:40am On Apr 15, 2016
I salute the brain behind this deal. atleast it will be easier to get made-in-china products that can benefit NIGERIANS who can not trade in dollars.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by thesicilian: 11:51am On Apr 15, 2016
This is proof that you don't need a PhD to rule this country. Commonsense alone is enough.

AntiIPOOP:

In simple terms, PMB has just strengthened the Naira by 9.15%!

And that's not the end of the story. As we begin to deal in the Yuan, the demand for dollar would plummet and this in turn would weaken the dollar. It would crash to around 140 Naira to the dollar.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by kayfra: 11:59am On Apr 15, 2016
Just wait till China devalues the yuan like they normally do. You'll scream bloody murder.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by amaechi1: 12:11pm On Apr 15, 2016
That is just fragment of the benefit. Our Igbo brothers should cease this open door to improve their business.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by AntiIPOOP(m): 12:14pm On Apr 15, 2016
thesicilian:
This is proof that you don't need a PhD to rule this country. Commonsense alone is enough.

Exactly!

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by Richy4(m): 12:44pm On Apr 15, 2016
I just hope this is not gonna be a huge mistake in the long-run...judging by how Chinese Economy fluctuates....

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by udumosam23(m): 12:54pm On Apr 15, 2016
kayfra:
Just wait till China devalues the yuan like they normally do. You'll scream bloody murder.


I don't see how their devaluing the yuan will affect us, the more they devalue their currency, the cheaper we get their product.

speaking from a layman's point of view though.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by Paretomaster(m): 12:55pm On Apr 15, 2016
kayfra:
Just wait till China devalues the yuan like they normally do. You'll scream bloody murder.

if they devalue their Yuan, then our naira will be strengthen against d Yuan....abi I lie?

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by Topleague(m): 1:01pm On Apr 15, 2016
God bless you PMB, this is just the beginning. First time we have a sincere and honest man at the helm of affairs in this country, i hope we can give him our co-operation, you can't expect Nigeria to be fix within a short time but this is step in the right direction.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by kayfra: 1:05pm On Apr 15, 2016
Paretomaster:


if they devalue their Yuan, then our naira will be strengthen against d Yuan....abi I lie?

Then ww will keep importing toothpicks. Ww won't have incentives to diversify and we'll be reliant on dumped Chinese goods.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by Nobody: 1:05pm On Apr 15, 2016
Beer Parlour Economics

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by kayfra: 1:06pm On Apr 15, 2016
udumosam23:



I don't see how their devaluing the yuan will affect us, the more they devalue their currency, the cheaper we get their product.

speaking from a layman's point of view though.

It will keep imports from China attractive while we lose our mojo to diversify.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by mattyboy007(m): 1:34pm On Apr 15, 2016
if dis is real den PMB has done well fr d 1st tym
Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by sinkhole: 1:44pm On Apr 15, 2016
kayfra:


It will keep imports from China attractive while we lose our mojo to diversify.
Have we diversified since we started trading in dollar? Diversification is our character and not the currency we trade in!

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by kayfra: 1:54pm On Apr 15, 2016
sinkhole:
Have we diversified since we started trading in dollar? Diversification is our character and not the currency we trade in!

We have a genuine opportunity at the moment to right the ship. It will be a disaster if we don't fix the long term problem for a short term fix by being on China's leash.

At the end of the day, if most of our trades are within Nigeria like in other developed countries, then our fate won't be so dependent on foreign currencies.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by 989900B: 1:56pm On Apr 15, 2016
kayfra:


It will keep imports from China attractive while we lose our mojo to diversify.

That's a policy/leadership thing.

It's not like a stronger Yuan will automatically translate into us doing the right thing either.

The government needs to put in place proper infrastructure, stable electricity, working refineries, amiable investment policies/laws and general support -- even the Chinese would leave China to come and establish their factories here!

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by izospindle(m): 1:56pm On Apr 15, 2016
kayfra:
Just wait till China devalues the yuan like they normally do. You'll scream bloody murder.
no no no you are getting it wrong .......if china devalue their currency the naira will strengthen against the Yuan......do u kw even the dollar losses value at times. this it is the yuan thats losing value and not the naira. the naira will remain the same

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by kayfra: 1:58pm On Apr 15, 2016
izospindle:

no no no you are getting it wrong .......if china devalue their currency the naira will strengthen against the Yuan......do u kw even the dollar losses value at times. this it is the yuan thats losing value and not the naira. the naira will remain the same

Naira will be strong and based on past experience rather than use it to buy equipment, we'll use our money to buy toothpick and chicken from China. We are still exposed to shocks from Bejing. That's for the consumers.

For the government, if we keep our reserves in Yuan, when China devalues then our reserves tank. The yuan devaluation is typically an intentional move by the government and not controlled by the market.

Even the Chinese government maintain a dollar based reserve.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by Nbote(m): 2:02pm On Apr 15, 2016
Hahahahahahaha... Chaiii, if u think Economics was dis easy den U really need to have ur head examined...

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by iblawi(m): 2:03pm On Apr 15, 2016
kayfra:
Just wait till China devalues the yuan like they normally do. You'll scream bloody murder.
if China devalues the yuan it will still be in our favour. It's just like saying US is devaluing the dollar.
Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by Halleydavid: 2:05pm On Apr 15, 2016
Very nice
Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by kayfra: 2:05pm On Apr 15, 2016
iblawi:
if China devalues the yuan it will still be in our favour. It's just like saying US is devaluing the dollar.

Not if we also hold a significant portion of our reserves in Yuan.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by BlackHummer(m): 2:18pm On Apr 15, 2016
AntiIPOOP:
The school cert holder has done what a PhD holder could not.

Very simple economics. We buy most of our goods from China, so why must we pay the Chinese in dollars? The Chinese buy a lot of crude oil from us, so why must they pay us in dollars?

So PMB made a deal with the Chinese. We pay for the goods we buy from China in Yuan, the Chinese currency. They buy our crude oil and pay in Yuan.

The exchange rate is to be pegged at 30 Naira to one Yuan or RMB.

So how does it favour us? Simple.

The Yuan is now 6.48 to a dollar. So if you pay 30 Naira to the Yuan, that would be equivalent to 194.4 Naira to the dollar.

Since the dollar exchanges for 199 Naira, you save N4.6. 199 - 194.4 = 4.6. Simple, huh?

In simple terms, PMB has just strengthened the Naira by 9.15%!

And that's not the end of the story. As we begin to deal in the Yuan, the demand for dollar would plummet and this in turn would weaken the dollar. It would crash to around 140 Naira to the dollar.

May God bless PMB.

Wailers will not like this

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by Adminisher: 2:26pm On Apr 15, 2016
AntiIPOOP:
The school cert holder has done what a PhD holder could not.

Very simple economics. We buy most of our goods from China, so why must we pay the Chinese in dollars? The Chinese buy a lot of crude oil from us, so why must they pay us in dollars?

So PMB made a deal with the Chinese. We pay for the goods we buy from China in Yuan, the Chinese currency. They buy our crude oil and pay in Yuan.

The exchange rate is to be pegged at 30 Naira to one Yuan or RMB.

So how does it favour us? Simple.

The Yuan is now 6.48 to a dollar. So if you pay 30 Naira to the Yuan, that would be equivalent to 194.4 Naira to the dollar.

Since the dollar exchanges for 199 Naira, you save N4.6. 199 - 194.4 = 4.6. Simple, huh?

In simple terms, PMB has just strengthened the Naira by 9.15%!

And that's not the end of the story. As we begin to deal in the Yuan, the demand for dollar would plummet and this in turn would weaken the dollar. It would crash to around 140 Naira to the dollar.

May God bless PMB.

China wisely devalued their currency many months ago to make their markets in the third world more competitive. The low value of the Yuan is also very good for Nigeria.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by Nobody: 2:26pm On Apr 15, 2016
udumosam23:



I don't see how their devaluing the yuan will affect us, the more they devalue their currency, the cheaper we get their product.

speaking from a layman's point of view though.

You devalue the currency by printing more money. The more money you print, the more money is circulating the market. If the production does not increase and keep pace with the increase of money, products become more expensive.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by Adminisher: 2:28pm On Apr 15, 2016
iblawi:
if China devalues the yuan it will still be in our favour. It's just like saying US is devaluing the dollar.
dollar.[/quote]

China has already devalued and Nigeria is enjoying it. They have a glut of steel to make railways and heavy construction projects like dams, roads and bridges. This relationship was made in heaven

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by 989900B: 2:32pm On Apr 15, 2016
kayfra:


Naira will be strong and based on past experience rather than use it to buy equipment, we'll use our money to buy toothpick and chicken from China. We are still exposed to shocks from Bejing. That's for the consumers.

For the government, if we keep our reserves in Yuan, when China devalues then our reserves tank. The yuan devaluation is typically an intentional move by the government and not controlled by the market.

Even the Chinese government maintain a dollar based reserve.


1. Do you know that if we have xbillion amount of dollars in our reserves, does not literally mean it's all in US dollars?

2. Even from before, we did keep some Yuan in our 'basket of currencies'.

3. We keep other currencies like GBP, Euro and some few other currencies, and gold too.

4. We are only increasing our Yuan reserves, and trading directly, rather than going via the $ route (which is a better thing for our economy, considering we have a huge trade volume to and from China . . . times are changing, it's not like the 70s,80s, or 90s . . . the world's trade and ours from then has greatly changed. We can't be applying the monetary policies of 30 years ago in a fast evolving world -- we've gotta evolve with it).

5. ATM, the dollar is too strong for it's own good, and the US is worried about that too -- they'r slowly feeling the effect.

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by antispexish(m): 2:32pm On Apr 15, 2016
kayfra:


We have a genuine opportunity at the moment to right the ship. It will be a disaster if we don't fix the long term problem for a short term fix by being on China's leash.

At the end of the day, if most of our trades are within Nigeria like in other developed countries, then our fate won't be so dependent on foreign currencies.

you are making this statement as if trading in yuan is the only thing pmb is doing.
He is also making efforts on how to reduce imports on products we can't produce.
moreover, there are some products that we need that we cannot produce in the next 10 years, this deal will ease that problem considerably.

There are other ways to force production in nigeria while easing the cost of import that will benefit nigeria and nigerians.

layman's view: toothpick from china= 5 naira
toothpick from naija= 6 naira
solution= importer from china pay 1 naira extra import duty. money will be used to surpport local toothpick production

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by seacoast(m): 2:36pm On Apr 15, 2016
Hehehe... U sure say bubu understand wetin he explained? China go dey say make he do fast sign... (abi una think Chinese government go just strike a deal that will be easy as explained by op?)

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Re: THE ECONOMIST! PMB Has Done It Again. by vikaosi: 2:38pm On Apr 15, 2016
AntiIPOOP:
The school cert holder has done what a PhD holder could not.

Very simple economics. We buy most of our goods from China, so why must we pay the Chinese in dollars? The Chinese buy a lot of crude oil from us, so why must they pay us in dollars?

So PMB made a deal with the Chinese. We pay for the goods we buy from China in Yuan, the Chinese currency. They buy our crude oil and pay in Yuan.

The exchange rate is to be pegged at 30 Naira to one Yuan or RMB.

So how does it favour us? Simple.

The Yuan is now 6.48 to a dollar. So if you pay 30 Naira to the Yuan, that would be equivalent to 194.4 Naira to the dollar.

Since the dollar exchanges for 199 Naira, you save N4.6. 199 - 194.4 = 4.6. Simple, huh?

In simple terms, PMB has just strengthened the Naira by 9.15%!

And that's not the end of the story. As we begin to deal in the Yuan, the demand for dollar would plummet and this in turn would weaken the dollar. It would crash to around 140 Naira to the dollar.

May God bless PMB.

That's not exactly what currency swap means. The deal means that for an agreed number of years, the Chinese will allocate a bulk of Yuan to us in exchange of naira. We will later pay some agreed interest rate.

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