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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by EreluY(f): 11:46pm On Apr 15, 2016
[size=18pt]IMF IS NO FRIEND TO ANY DEBTORS[/size]

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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by enlightenedmind: 12:01am On Apr 16, 2016
iliyande:
if not After she failed in an attempt to devalue Naira, Now she want Buhari to change his Forex Policy..... what is wrong with this woman?
Menopause

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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by Caseless: 4:17am On Apr 16, 2016
amtaken:
Buhari's economic policies are harsh and very devastating to our economy.
you know nothing about the economy.

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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by Caseless: 4:23am On Apr 16, 2016
musicwriter:


Mr. Joe Stiglitz (an American) was a former world bank chief economist, and he didn't like what was going on between the IMF, world bank and poor countries. After all efforts to get his organization to change their exploitative ways of doing business, he was fired. Then, he went to the press.

Here is Joe Stiglitz's world bank and IMF's 4 steps to poverty http://www.africason.com/2014/08/world-bank-and-imfs-4-steps-to-poverty.html

You have a choice to educate yourself now or remain forever dumb.

The world bank and IMF are nothing but neo-colonial instruments to keep on exploiting third world countries. They've done more harm than good in most countries. See below for details.

A Typical Example of How the World Bank and IMF Made Ghana Poorer.
http://www.africason.com/2014/08/typical-example-of-how-world-bank-and.html

How The World Bank and IMF Control Poor Nations
http://www.africason.com/2014/08/how-world-bank-and-imf-control-nations.html

IMF and World Bank Are Major Cause of Poverty in Africa.
http://www.africason.com/2014/08/imf-and-world-bank-are-major-cause-of.html

Poor Countries Have Paid More Money to IMF and World Bank Than They Borrowed
http://www.africason.com/2014/08/poor-countries-have-paid-more-money-to.html

Revealed!!. World Bank and IMF's 4 Steps To Poverty - by renegade world bank staff!.
http://www.africason.com/2014/08/world-bank-and-imfs-4-steps-to-poverty.html

How World Bank and IMF Riped-Off Poor African Countries.
http://www.africason.com/2014/08/how-world-bank-and-imf-rip-off-poor.html

World Bank Structural Adjustment Program (SAP) Destroyed African Economies.
http://www.africason.com/2014/08/world-bank-structural-adjustment.html

World Bank and IMF; Agent of Poverty or Development?
http://www.africason.com/2014/08/world-bank-and-imf-agent-of-poverty-or.html

The World Bank and The Development Delusion.
http://www.africason.com/2014/08/the-world-bank-and-development-delusion.html

IMF and World Bank: Puppets of Few Rich Nations.
http://www.africason.com/2014/08/imf-and-world-bank-puppets-of-few-rich.html

IMF and World Bank: Neo-Colonial Tool to Exploit Third World Countries.
http://www.africason.com/2014/08/imf-and-world-bank-neo-colonial-tool-to.html

The IMF and World Bank Help Keep Africa Dependent on More Loan.
http://www.africason.com/2014/08/the-imf-and-world-bank-help-keep-africa.html

IMF Misleads the World With Rhetorics and PR on Poverty Reduction in Africa.
http://www.africason.com/2014/10/imf-rhetorics-and-pr-on-poverty.html
@herbie27, hide ur head in shame and read this.

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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by Caseless: 4:34am On Apr 16, 2016
omenka:
Just as someone else said, IMF and the West are simply terrified we are on the right track to fixing this using home grown mechanisms.

They know the wider implication of us succeeding without their inputs- other struggling African economies would likely adopt our strategies rendering them less potent in deciding the trends in our domestic affairs.
their dominance and meddlesomeness can't last forever as someone has to put a stop to it. Somebody put a stop to America's monopoly of nuclear weapons when some other nations came up with their own just like Nigeria is doing now. We can be stuck to textbook economic policies that do not work for us.
This step taken by Nigeria might end up creating a leeway to freedom for so many countries.

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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by Nellybii: 4:35am On Apr 16, 2016
project50:
you are a rat for calling jews when mohammad is ur problem

Are you a Jew?

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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by Caseless: 4:44am On Apr 16, 2016
rusher14:

[b]
I laugh when I read contributions like this.

Are there no eggheads and technocrats in the top echelon of the Ministry of Finance?

Kemi knows nothing yet Ogun State, her past stomping ground makes substantial IGR?

Or you think you are more intelligent than Emefiele?

You guys always try to personalise issues by so doing defeating your defence.

This issue is a matter of choice, and the government has chosen what it considers the lesser evil.

At present, you would have connected people probably benefiting from round tripping. Yet, that is less painful for the masses than devaluation of a currency leading to a Zimbabwe-esque situation.

Runaway inflation is nothing the masses can bear. So tightening trousers, getting forex for only the essentials appears to be the thrust of our policies.

The present government is betting on its vaunted and expected ability to provide infrastructure, the backbone for enterprise.

They feel there's nothing to gain by devaluation other than having vultures feast on our basic industries and materials.

In the often cited Nigerian maxim " who devaluation don epp"?

Please provide reasons why we must devalue our currency, how it is beneficial to the common man, how it impacts his take home pay, access to basic health care and infrastructure and how it promotes local enterprise. Perhaps then we can begin to accept it as the right alternative. [/b]
so many brilliant post from brilliant people on this thread .


Herbie27, respond to the last line pls. You guys take anything from the west hook , line and sinker without looking at the implications. Licking the azz of America doesn't make you an American.

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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by amtaken(f): 4:45am On Apr 16, 2016
You know a lot about the economy yet when those who don't know que up for fuel you join them to que, when they buy dollars for $1 to N321 you do same, when the power supply seizes it seizes in your home too, when hunger bites it bites you too.


Like I said before: Buhari's harsh economic policies are killing the country.

Caseless:
you know nothing about the economy.

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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by whitebeard(m): 7:28am On Apr 16, 2016
iliyande:
if not After she failed in an attempt to devalue Naira, Now she want Buhari to change his Forex Policy..... what is wrong with this woman?
they are all bitch ass niggas
Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by presidentMZ: 8:59am On Apr 16, 2016
Zionist, jews IMF west does'nt want the economic decision of Mr President of Nigeria. Let them go to hell, we are now heading to East, no going back. You are our problems. Bleep your self and stop ripping off manking
Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by King44(m): 9:00am On Apr 16, 2016
grandstar:


There is no need arguing with you? Buhari said he won't devalue the currency yet it crashed to 320! Is that not worse?

The IMF is simply telling you the obvious. Water will always find its level. By not devaluing , the currency crashed

Has the trip to China led to an improvement in thwe value of the currency. Even China devlued its currency recently.

The president is just chasing the wind. As long as he refuses to devalue, the economy will keep suffering.

The IMF is simply telling the country the truth.

Your dollar income has crashed by 70% and you still want your exchange rate to remain the same? Its not possible.

Sanusi, Soludo and Utomi have all condemned his policies. Sanusi even said they have worked nowhere in the world!

Buhari means well but unfortunately,his econmic s however is lamentable
so finally if the currency is devalued what would b d exchange rate of naira to dollar I guess $1 to 600 naira all becos we want a fair trade and smooth running economy bt unfortunately if we do worse would be the case
Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by PrinceMario(m): 9:15am On Apr 16, 2016
herbie27:
And your government knew all these your fact and decided to go seek for loan from the IMF?.

You can forever remain dumb with your internet false stories or believe that your nation needs more than adding yuan to its reserve and nt plan for exportation of other things to favour it's unfavourable balance of payment.
Why not keep calm and learn from the guy, he knows far better than you. The more you try to counter him the more senseless you sound.
Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by OPCNAIRALAND: 9:34am On Apr 16, 2016
modath:




IMF, na by force? Your view is not for Africa's independence or progress!

You offer hep with condition, person say hin nor want, na by force?

Who IMF hep don favour before? undecided undecided

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-05/angola-central-bank-devalues-currency-as-oil-slide-hits-revenue

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/04/angola-hit-collapse-oil-prices-seeks-imf-aid/


http://venturesafrica.com/a-tough-year-awaits-angola-imf/


Lagarde and Ngozi are paddy paddy....it's a plot!

Soon as Buhari agrees to her suggestions the stage will be set for the programm, then an implementation stage, followed by a sustainable roadmap. Then the management of the partnership.....my sister, guess who Lagarde will appoint to manage it? grin grin

...na plot! Hippo should go and find another country to help, she is a two time failed Finance Minister and we dont want her knuckles in our treasury again forever! grin. grin

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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by hoodmenconcept(m): 11:56am On Apr 16, 2016
herbie27:
My brother you shld have checked my previous post 4 a better understanding of my view....i threw lights on devaluation so he would understand.

Kemi has nothing to do wit Ogun state IGR because she's nt the masses neither is she the governor, jst as she has nothing to do wit either Lagos state which has the highest IGR nor Rivers state that has the second largest IGR.

The IGR is the income that accrue to the state through its masses who pay taxes and are involved in various stages of production with government activities, Lagos state has the biggest because it's and most industrious region in Nigeria wit it's high population.

I repeat IGR has nothing to do wit Kemi


Mr. economist.. Ogun state is the most industrious state.. do ur findings very well.. mistakes u guyz always did is that: there r some parts in lagos that belong to Ogun state not Lagos state!
Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by hoodmenconcept(m): 12:47pm On Apr 16, 2016
grandstar:


The president is an economic illiterate who brought upon the country an epic petrol scarcity. Things aree sinking and you are talking China. 1 + 1 = 2 and running to China won't change the obvious. Lets see if running to China will bring the naira from 320 to 199/ Lubbish!


you are obviously out of point, you neither dont know the reason why pmb went to china then u shut d fck up!
let me enlighten u a little bit then u use ur common sense to elaborate it...

seeking for a way to divert our economy from this motherfckers Westerner without making use of dollars as a major means of exchange rate for businesses, since the high rate of exchange rate of naira to dollars is not favorable. if pmb can succeed with this ideas then dollars will be useless
Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by hoodmenconcept(m): 12:48pm On Apr 16, 2016
grandstar:


The president is an economic illiterate who brought upon the country an epic petrol scarcity. Things aree sinking and you are talking China. 1 + 1 = 2 and running to China won't change the obvious. Lets see if running to China will bring the naira from 320 to 199/ Lubbish!


you are obviously out of point, you neither dont know the reason why pmb went to china then u shut d fck up!
let me enlighten u a little bit then u use ur common sense to elaborate it...

seeking for a way to divert our economy from this motherfckers Westerner without making use of dollars as a major means of exchange rate for businesses, since the high rate of exchange rate of naira to dollars is not favorable. if pmb can succeed with this ideas then dollars will be useless


do i make a common sense!
Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by grandstar(m): 1:15pm On Apr 16, 2016
King44:
so finally if the currency is devalued what would b d exchange rate of naira to dollar I guess $1 to 600 naira all becos we want a fair trade and smooth running economy bt unfortunately if we do worse would be the case

The exchange rate of a currency is determined by fundamentals and not by what anybody wants even the IMF. The IMF too is subject to the fundamentals.

The rate can't drop to 600.

In 2009, the price of oil fell from $148 in 2008, to $35 that year.

The official rate then was 120 to $1. There was pressure on the naira becuase of a drop in the forex income.

Soludo, the then CBN governor refused to devalue at the official rate. The naira crash to 190 at the parallel market.

To support the 120 at the official rate, the foriiegn reserves went from $60b to $41b in little or no time yet did nothing to stop the naira from crashing.

Sanusi now came in and immediately devalued the currency to 150. Immediately, the parallel rate went from 190 to 155. And the pressure on the naira eased. Sanusi said the official rate and that of the black market must have maximum of 3% difference. That anything is excess is not right.

If the naira is devalued to around 250, the excess demand at the official rate will dry up and the parallel rate will probably hit around 255.

There is no reason for it to touch 600.

It can however touch 600 if the government decides to borrow recklessly and pump too much money in circulation. It can not just touch 600 for no reason.

Its the fundamentals that count

The massive difference of 60% between the official and parallel rate is more than enough indication that the currency needs to be devalued.

The country can not continue leaving in denial!

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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by King44(m): 1:44pm On Apr 16, 2016
grandstar:


The exchange rate of a currency is determined by fundamentals and not by what anybody wants even the IMF. The IMF too is subject to the fundamentals.

The rate can't drop to 600.

In 2009, the price of oil fell from $148 in 2008, to $35 that year.

The official rate then was 120 to $1. There was pressure on the naira becuase of a drop in the forex income.

Soludo, the then CBN governor refused to devalue at the official rate. The naira crash to 190 at the parallel market.

To support the 120 at the official rate, the foriiegn reserves went from $60b to $41b in little or no time yet did nothing to stop the naira from crashing.

Sanusi now came in and immediately devalued the currency to 150. Immediately, the parallel rate went from 190 to 155. And the pressure on the naira eased. Sanusi said the official rate and that of the black market must have maximum of 3% difference. That anything is excess is not right.

If the naira is devalued to around 250, the excess demand at the official rate will dry up and the parallel rate will probably hit around 255.

There is no reason for it to touch 600.

It can however touch 600 if the government decides to borrow recklessly and pump too much money in circulation. It can not just touch 600 for no reason.

Its the fundamentals that count

The massive difference of 60% between the official and parallel rate is more than enough indication that the currency needs to be devalued.

The country can not continue leaving in denial!
true, but I fear for the future value of Nigeria's currency cos if devalued to reflect the market force things would finally be at ease but it won't last long as the forces of demand and supply would persist and the gvt would have to fall back on devaluation and finally the currency would b pushed to the edge of no redemption in few years to come alas naira would have no value and this would greatly affect trade, the economy should be truly diversified this act of financing deficit with depth will do this country no good
Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by udatso: 2:18pm On Apr 16, 2016
grandstar:


The president is an economic illiterate who brought upon the country an epic petrol scarcity. Things aree sinking and you are talking China. 1 + 1 = 2 and running to China won't change the obvious. Lets see if running to China will bring the naira from 320 to 199/ Lubbish!
You sir are literate but ignorant (no insult intended). In simple terms, running to China is to make our demand for dollar reduce to the minimum.

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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by Nobody: 2:50pm On Apr 16, 2016
Caseless:
@herbie27, hide ur head in shame and read this.
You shld hide ur head in SHAME and stp being Gullible.

Make your own contributions and stop sourcing for fake internet stories.
Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by Nobody: 2:54pm On Apr 16, 2016
udatso:

You sir are literate but ignorant (no insult intended). In simple terms, running to China is to make our demand for dollar reduce to the minimum.
The three enemies of man are poverty, illiteracy and ignorance.

Your government running to China cannot make the demand for the Dollars reduce to the minimum.

There is no nation in the world dat u won't find the dollar, find out from economist.

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Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by udatso: 3:08pm On Apr 16, 2016
herbie27:
The three enemies of man are poverty, illiteracy and ignorance.

Your government running to China cannot make the demand for the Dollars reduce to the minimum.

There is no nation in the world dat u won't find the dollar, find out from economist.
How do you know that?
Did I in anyway suggest Elimination of dollar totally in my post?
Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by Nobody: 3:26pm On Apr 16, 2016
udatso:

How do you know that?
Did I in anyway suggest Elimination of dollar totally in my post?
Are you an alien?, cheesy cheesy cheesy no offence though!.
Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by sirthisthickkal: 7:25pm On Apr 16, 2016
enlightenedmind:


Dont even worry about that one. We are divided but when it comes to the west, they are a common enemy to all africans. We do not want them here. Even if we fight to death. We will fight on our own.
Re: IMF Wants Buhari To Change His Forex Policy by jpphilips(m): 5:21pm On Apr 17, 2016
IMF not to worry, the budget deficit has gone to China, sorry

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