raumdeuter:
How old is the girl? Get a female thats younger than her mom to talk to her in calm words to ask why she does whatever

She would open up

the woman lost a baby boy last year. But that shouldnt be the reason she maltreat her own daughter that way

mysticgal:

Am ok

Hmmmm...oya prove it.....

Prove that you're okay

kaboninc:

Hmmmm...oya prove it.....
Prove that you're okay

How can that be done

mysticgal:

How can that be done

Lol.

What's up with your school?

You know you'll give us some tips on how to handle stubborn kids in your pageant competition

I concur

Mediapace:
Take her to command day secondary school

kaboninc:


Lol.

What's up with your school?

You know you'll give us some tips on how to handle stubborn kids in your pageant competition

No problems, I am ready to help

Mediapace:
Take her to command day secondary school

End of discussion

U distort him by giving him food for a month.

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Is humiliation a proper way of rebuke
Visit the link above?

Enypie:

True. Thanks. But don't be, it's 8yrs already.

welcome.. Really? that's wen we finished sec sch it is well dear.

its good to be at the child as long as it's moderate abd not cause any injury on child and after beating give the child chance to cry without pity so after that seat the child than and let the child realised fam flaunt and use the word of Scripture to guide fam and try to set the rules and responsibilities for the fam and strictly serious about it. Moreover show kindness , love, emotional concerned and avoid comparism with anyone, abuse neglect and most important pray for the fam.

VoteDemiladgold:
but my mum beat me very well wen I was little, I dnt see myself as a wayward adult..

Wizkoko:


All those methods don't work; it's beating that fix a child. If you look at the American children, you will notice that they are very stubborn; they lack respect, and they talk shit to their parents face. All of that is due to lack of beating. But look at our Nigerian children, they don't disrespect people anyhow. The beating has humbled them. Although beating works wonders, don't over use it because too much of everything is bad.

Brute force is a symptom of poor problem solving skills. Our parents did not know any better which is why paddling was the only solution. Ever wondered why Nigerians are so prone to violence? It is because they don't know that there is a better way. Ever wondered why people don't see a problem with jungle justice? Because they are so used to gore and violence. I am not saying don't smack your kids, but it should not be the only solution to corrective training. Also, the american kids you say lack respect are doing way better than Nigerian kids who have "respect". At least if they had respect, they would respect their environment, amenities and other people which would translate to a better society. Nigerians are the most unruly people in the world. If they had respect it would reflect in society today. When is the respect going to start showing in the quality of society you live in. Taking away privileges is the best way to deal with a child. My kids know not to phuck with me. They'll be grounded for life. Plus, no xbox, ipod, cable, biking, sleep overs, etc. You come back from school, do your homework and that's it. Believe me; to them, it is like being in prison. I don't have to lay a finger on them. If you can identify what a child holds dear and take it away, they tend to listen to you.

PoliticalThuG:
she is now afraid to play with her age mates because her mother will beat her

its only a matter of time. she will harden up. the late 2pac shakur was a quiet kid once in his life time.

merits:


Kukuma tell us say na ur daughter,stop lieing.

i never finish enjoying my youthful age

kaboninc:


Its not about disciplining your child but how you go about it. Excessive flogging hardens the heart and makes him difficult to control. Even your mother knows that.


There's nothing wrong with flogging a child. But how you do so matters. Do you flog him until his hands peels? Or until he bleeds out? Or until he faints? What message are you trying to pass across?

And its not about Africans and non Africans. As we have parents who beats up their child to stupor here in Nigeria, you have parents who shoots their kids in other countries. Let's stop the stereotyping!

I've come to realise that kids learn most when you do the talk and speak to them. They watch you and you should be careful around them. When they test you, or try to usurp your authority, at that tender age, subtle discipline will put them in line.

Most people don't really know how it feels to be a victim of these excessive floggings.

I never said to flog it till it died or sustained injuries that are destructive. There's nothing wrong with leaving a few welts if it gets to that. I'm yet to see a person who when flogged does not get welts and turn red/plum. Unless they now flog children with pieces of paper because a smarting is now such a bad thing.

And yes, it's about Africans and non Africans. What you have in Nigeria are parents who do not have the nerve to flog their kids because "it will damage it's psyche", " it's not civilized ", " I should only speak to them "; because they saw it on TV, or because their friend at Asokoro doesn't do it. But they forget that the floggings/beatings they got early in their lives did make a difference. All this soft talk about talking to them only is irritating. The people who they saw that told them not to flog most certainly beat theirs if they get out of line. It's irritating seeing Nigerians who were flogged now acting like children are some sort of gem that will die if they are touched.

The only thing excessive flogging does is that it either kills the child (stupidity on the part of the parent; you don't beat a child out of anger), it hardens the child (stupidity on the part of the child) or it makes the child sensible (this is the whole aim of physical discipline). I'm not advocating excessive flogging.


Every child needs a good flogging, stubborn or not. And trust me, they want it.

one can equally 'entice' stubborn kids with gifts. Promising to buy them stuffs if they continue to be obedient. This often work...kids will always be naive no matter how stubborn they are

MzLarem:
I find ur post very disturbing..I just hope u won't turn to one of those abusive fathers who maltreats their kids..
1)U're referring to a child as 'it'
2) To you,they re jst young goats ryt..even sum1 with a heart won't flog a young goat everytime..come on,some kid(goat's baby) re cute.
3)I wrote 'NOT EVERYTHING THEY DO DESERVES BEATING'..I didn't write 'don't beat them @ all'
4)Kids re innocent except those with a faulty background..so,sometime they act out of deir naivety nd ignorance
5 nd Lastly,for everything ur child does,u need to check urself cos he/she is learning from you..so,if ur child is a young goat,then u're a Malu(cow)

Finally,u can flog d life out of ur child,na u born am bt remember,there re now agencies against child molestation..U don't wanna end up in dat dreadful place 4 scolding YOUR own child
#Constructivecriticismisthekey

Lol @2.

Some baby goats are cute, you say. Okay. It's certified. You're a big softie.

Tellemall:


Lol @2.

Some baby goats are cute, you say. Okay. It's certified. You're a big softie.

we all have a soft nd tough spot..so I concur.

kaboninc:


Lol.

What's up with your school?

You know you'll give us some tips on how to handle stubborn kids in your pageant competition

clears throat. ..oga I greet you

soopamom:

Spare the rod, the first question is "what is a rod?"
Now I'll refer you to psalm 23 " Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me" so it's a shepherds rod, which was used to gently guide the sheep. Not flog the sheep as most people assume. ...gentle guidance is what is needed, even from the Bible

Hello dear. The interpretation you gave of the use of rod in this context is not correct. Words are used in the Bible within contexts to convey a particular message, without which you'll miss the point.
The context within which the rod is used here is not the same with the rod used in Psalm 23.
Here we as parents are being admonished on how to raise responsible children who will take over from us when we are gone. And raising a responsible human being is not done lying down.

Amplified Bible Proverbs 23:13-14 Withhold not discipline from the child; for if you strike and punish him with the [reedlike] rod, he will not die. You shall whip him with the rod and deliver his life from Sheol (Hades, the place of the dead).

Have you see striking and whipping there? You don't gently prod a child and he dies. You shall whip him with a rod. (Although, not like an animal).

Amplified Bible Proverbs 22:15 Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him.

Even a foolish and mumu sheep is kept straight by the rod. Flogging a sheep to keep it in line doesn't kill a sheep.

Proverbs 19:18. Chastise thy son while there is still hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying.
When can we say there's still hope in a child?
Do you indulge him and allow him grow then you start trying to bend him when he is grown?

I stand for discipline, but I stand against abuse.

There's away a child does something wrong but in trying to discipline and correct the child, we abuse the child.
Discipline yes, Abuse No.

The best way to deal with a stubborn child is to start early. If you as a parent realize that this child will never do what he is asked to do, you do not indulge him, from year 1. If you need to take that toy from him, take that toy from him. Let him cry. He will throw all the tantrums, no Wahala, it's tears coming out of his eyes not blood. Children throw tantrums.

Don't wait for him to get to 3years before you start putting your foot out.
You, as a parent know what's good for your kid, you don't let him decide what to wear, what to eat or what TV Chanel to watch, it's not yet time. That time will come, but it's not now. If you allow him to get to six, and you have not set your boundaries, as a parent you have failed.

Spanking with a cane(Not abuse pls) has its place. Let that be the last resort. Let David know from day1 that Mommy won't allow. He may hate you now, don't worry, he will come around. And make sure when he does anything right you praise him like a god, this will motivate him to do right more, because praise dey make humans feel like super men.

analice107:

Hello dear. The interpretation you gave of the use of rod in this context is not correct. Words are used in the Bible within contexts to convey a particular message, without which you'll miss the point.
The context within which the rod is used here is not the same with the rod used in Psalm 23.
Here we as parents are being admonished on how to raise responsible children who will take over from us when we are gone. And raising a responsible human being is not done lying down.

Amplified Bible Proverbs 23:13-14 Withhold not discipline from the child; for if you strike and punish him with the [reedlike] rod, he will not die. You shall whip him with the rod and deliver his life from Sheol (Hades, the place of the dead).

Have you see striking and whipping there? You don't gently prod a child and he dies. You shall whip him with a rod. (Although, not like an animal).

Amplified Bible Proverbs 22:15 Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him.

Even a foolish and mumu sheep is kept straight by the rod. Flogging a sheep to keep it in line doesn't kill a sheep.

Proverbs 19:18. Chastise thy son while there is still hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying.
When can we say there's still hope in a child?
Do you indulge him and allow him grow then you start trying to bend him when he is grown?

I stand for discipline, but I stand against abuse.

There's away a child does something wrong but in trying to discipline and correct the child, we abuse the child.
Discipline yes, Abuse No.

The best way to deal with a stubborn child is to start early. If you as a parent realize that this child will never do what he is asked to do, you do not indulge him, from year 1. If you need to take that toy from him, take that toy from him. Let him cry. He will throw all the tantrums, no Wahala, it's tears coming out of his eyes not blood. Children throw tantrums.

Don't wait for him to get to 3years before you start putting your foot out.
You, as a parent know what's good for your kid, you don't let him decide what to wear, what to eat or what TV Chanel to watch, it's not yet time. That time will come, but it's not now. If you allow him to get to six, and you have not set your boundaries, as a parent you have failed.

Spanking with a cane(Not abuse pls) has its place. Let that be the last resort. Let David know from day1 that Mommy won't allow. He may hate you now, don't worry, he will come around. And make sure when he does anything right you praise him like a god, this will motivate him to do right more, because praise dey make humans feel like super men.

Oh I know,but guess what?. I'm happy with this interpretation..but also going by your logic, the only way to open Davids deaf ears is by flogging him. How many of your subordinates at work do you flog when they do not take instructions from you? Or are children not deserving of the same respect that you would grant your fellow man?

azeecoboy:
if you like continue spanking him all day,a stubborn child wouldn't change for good.
PUNISHMENT is better!

what is this one saying? Is beating not part of punishment?

soopamom:

Oh I know,but guess what?. I'm happy with this interpretation..but also going by your logic, the only way to open Davids deaf ears is by flogging him. How many of your subordinates at work do you flog when they do not take instructions from you? Or are children not deserving of the same respect that you would grant your fellow man?

My colleagues are adults already. But my David is still my baby, and I want him responsible and not be like my colleagues when he grows up.
Maybe you are 20 or below. Maybe you grew up without being flogged or discipline in some ways. Keep in mind, am against abuse.
But my parents flogged me. Not often though.
But I wasn't spared anytime I misbehave and I DON'T REGRET HOW I TURN OUT TODAY.
If I was flogged and I am kept in line, why should I not flog my David?
I hope you are cool with the no flogging or spanking of kids in America which we are gradually adopting, and how their kids turn out against their Parents and against the society?
No kid of mine talks back at me. I didn't do that and still can't do it to my parents even as a parent myself.
If the family fails, the society breaks down. And the family system in has failed and the American society has broken down, it's a matter of time.
None of that is coming into my home.

analice107:

My colleagues are adults already. But my David is still my baby, and I want him responsible and not be like my colleagues when he grows up.
Maybe you are 20 or below. Maybe you grew up without being flogged or discipline in some ways. Keep in mind, am against abuse.
But my parents flogged me. Not often though.
But I wasn't spared anytime I misbehave and I DON'T REGRET HOW I TURN OUT TODAY.
If I was flogged and I am kept in line, why should I not flog my David?
I hope you are cool with the no flogging or spanking of kids in America which we are gradually adopting, and how their kids turn out against their Parents and against the society?
No kid of mine talks back at me. I didn't do that and still can't do it to my parents even as a parent myself.
If the family fails, the society breaks down. And the family system in has failed and the American society has broken down, it's a matter of time.
None of that is coming into my home.

You like most other spanking proponents assume that no spanking = no discipline/no boundaries. Far from it. It's actually easier to flog/spank the erring child and be done with it. But to think up punishments that reflect the real life consequences of a child's action, thus turning the moment into both a punishment and a teaching moment...that is the real Challenge, again, like I said guidance. Like the shepherd does to the sheep with his rod. And you say family system has failed and the American society has broken down, yet all you need in the American society is to have a green card/be a citizen and the society will do it's best to take care of you...that is not a failed system my dear.

Take the child to Monday night Raw or see wrestle Mania events lol. On a serious note, stubborness in kids starts little by little...for example when he/she is still very young and cries over stuffs, when you grant their wishes because you don't want to see em cry...the kid get to know that crying will always gets things done for them. This is where parents get it wrong, you don't grant the wishes to stop the cry, let the kid cry,letting them cry doesn't mean you heartless,its not really easy to watch em cry, but it's worth it, they will only cry for some time, after that he might sleep off or come to you and cuddle,do this often he will get to understand that, you can't always get what you want. Then as the kids grow older,the will learn to behave... Parenthood is the best hood around. #proudpapa

soopamom:

You like most other spanking proponents assume that no spanking = no discipline/no boundaries. Far from it. It's actually easier to flog/spank the erring child and be done with it. But to think up punishments that reflect the real life consequences of a child's action, thus turning the moment into both a punishment and a teaching moment...that is the real Challenge, again, like I said guidance. Like the shepherd does to the sheep with his rod. And you say family system has failed and the American society has broken down, yet all you need in the American society is to have a green card/be a citizen and the society will do it's best to take care of you...that is not a failed system my dear.

I will ask you one question. Do you regret how you turn out? Let me tell you something am privy to. I have taught in highbrow nouveau rich schools here in Nigeria. And I can equivocally tell you that if our society will be handed down to that generation with the way they are being raised right now. Then we don't have a society for posterity sake.
Children as little as 8 are beyond control, Parents come crying asking you a teacher to help them out, While you a teacher is not allowed to raise your voice to tell a child to stop whatever the child is doing good or bad.
The only discipline a child can get no matter what a child does is, stand aside, but not more than 5mimutes. And then you watch children running wile. If any child gets hurt or id bruised, as a teacher, you are in trouble, but you not expected to actually stop him when he is being wild. Protecting the calm kids from the wild ones is so hard.
Just look at our politicians, they all had good up bringing, but because the society is the way it is, see what they do. Then imagine the next generation with no any form of discipline, what they will do.
The Present crop of American leaders had firm discipline from the family, go back and check. What is going on there right now is recent and watch this generation pass and the next American generation politicians come on board. Hahahahahaha.

So because you are given a green Card, America it's not a failed system? Wonderful. Have you actually researched for real why they give you this Green Cards? Where are their youths who should do the jobs you get green cards to do? Maybe they are hooked on drugs and have become damaged? Why is the American Society so much into foreigners coming in to work in their country? Is it to boost their failing workforce? Why is Asia China not giving the same open doors, are they no jobs in China? Is it because their youths are up and doing and can fill the workforce?
The Asians won't allow drugs into their society, You know why?
but America is free. And parents can't really do anything about it.
Bros, I agree with you when you said, it's not all about flogging. I said that too. But flogging wasn't ruled out for me and I won't rule it out for my kids. Hear me out, flogging as a means of correction and as a last resort. Not abuse.

Adaure4ever:
Buy a cane for that stubborn kid.

Hi adaure why aren't you contesting?

kaziblake:
Hi adaure why aren't you contesting?

aww, this is my 1st tym of seeing the contest, let me just watch how this year edition goes.. If it is fun, then the next edition, I will contest.

Adaure4ever:
aww, this is my 1st tym of seeing the contest, let me just watch how this year edition goes.. If it is fun, then the next edition, I will contest.

Alright then No P

analice107:


I will ask you one question. Do you regret how you turn out? Let me tell you something am privy to. I have taught in highbrow nouveau rich schools here in Nigeria. And I can equivocally tell you that if our society will be handed down to that generation with the way they are being raised right now. Then we don't have a society for posterity sake.
Children as little as 8 are beyond control, Parents come crying asking you a teacher to help them out, While you a teacher is not allowed to raise your voice to tell a child to stop whatever the child is doing good or bad.
The only discipline a child can get no matter what a child does is, stand aside, but not more than 5mimutes. And then you watch children running wile. If any child gets hurt or id bruised, as a teacher, you are in trouble, but you not expected to actually stop him when he is being wild. Protecting the calm kids from the wild ones is so hard.
Just look at our politicians, they all had good up bringing, but because the society is the way it is, see what they do. Then imagine the next generation with no any form of discipline, what they will do.
The Present crop of American leaders had firm discipline from the family, go back and check. What is going on there right now is recent and watch this generation pass and the next American generation politicians come on board. Hahahahahaha.

So because you are given a green Card, America it's not a failed system? Wonderful. Have you actually researched for real why they give you this Green Cards? Where are their youths who should do the jobs you get green cards to do? Maybe they are hooked on drugs and have become damaged? Why is the American Society so much into foreigners coming in to work in their country? Is it to boost their failing workforce? Why is Asia China not giving the same open doors, are they no jobs in China? Is it because their youths are up and doing and can fill the workforce?
The Asians won't allow drugs into their society, You know why?
but America is free. And parents can't really do anything about it.
Bros, I agree with you when you said, it's not all about flogging. I said that too. But flogging wasn't ruled out for me and I won't rule it out for my kids. Hear me out, flogging as a means of correction and as a last resort. Not abuse.

Gbam!!
You are very sensible sir...cane actually turned my life around