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Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by 0ubenji(m): 4:27pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
themall: hmmn...if graduate radiographers aint potential employees...so who does their jobs in their relevant fields of necessity? |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Nobody: 4:37pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
ygenius:I may sound many ways. It's all about individual perception. For example, any who have little love for biology and biological course will probably not like medicine! Apparently, you seem not to know what Information is genuine and original. Have you tried asking a Doctor for example or a radiologist or a radiation biologist? And what is Merlin? |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by sonnie10: 4:42pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
My only concern with radiography is career advancement. Radiography is one of those professions that you are stuck at the level you were after initial licensure, like the Sergent Major in the Army. By career advancement I mean vertical growth and not horizontal movement. Why would a radiographer opt for a masters degree or PhD when there are no viable job options with such degree. Someone should not give me that story of Consultant Radiographer because as far as I am concern, such title does not come with any job description. And talking about becoming a university lecturer, I can assure you that a graduate of radiography (BSc) and Masters in education in any field would do just fine. Basically, the popular option for most radiographers is horizontal movement into other specialty areas. Is this true career growth? In my oipinion, the answer is no. A radiographer might decide to get certification in CT, MRI, Cath lab, Interventional radiography, nuclear medicine, bone densitry, radiotherapist etc. This situation is even more worrisome in Nigeria where graduate radiographers with a Bachelors degree proceed to do PGD in ultrasound. This is demeaning to say the least. What they do not know is that in advance countries, the same people they are trying to copy, sonographers are high school graduates who do this course for about 18-24 months. Until someone is able to point out the purpose of a graduate degree in radiography, what their job description would be and in what area they would function, then I do not see radiography as a career with much career advancement prospect. Unlike Medicine where you could advance and become a radiologist, you can't say the same of radiography. Lets not even go into the discussion about becoming a radiologist extender or what some call Radiologist Assistant because they work under the supervision of a Radiologist and not independently. 2 Likes |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by sitibemfen(m): 4:44pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
Pls note that, unemployment is a problem in every field of study in nigeria. |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by idu1(m): 4:47pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
Agu87:i think the demand for radiographer ll be reduce drastically as more people flood the profession in the nearest future fact! 1 Like |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Nobody: 4:57pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
joey150:Nothing good comes easy. You are misinterpreting and over interpreting the entire post. No that you have formed the sentence " finding it easy" by yourself! It appears nowhere in this post. What is apparent about the profession is that, as a youth, you tend to form BIG dreams, but after your youthful days realities set in. Many of you are looking for the easy-way-out, but it hardly ever exist. This course is one in which, you do not need to have the big godfathers, or strong connections to work in the best establishments and to have a legitimate chance to travel live in UK and the USA. Many radiographers have gone permanently to Europe, to live and consult later in Nigeria. Note that the course is diverse and rigorous. A radiographer is the cross between a medical doctor, a nurse, a nuclear physicist, a lab technician and the patient. So don't think you can just jump into a thread like this without knowing what is presently obtaining in the field. |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Drdonzeez(m): 4:57pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
ygenius:And how does your assertion makes you better than him.The good thing is that he's found love in his present chosen career which is very important.I don't want to know how he got the course,but, I believe Ignorance directly or indirectly plays a major role in one's decision at some stages in life. 2 Likes |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Nobody: 5:02pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
funstufz:Nowadays you have to go thorough JAMB. Am not sufficiently informed about other ways in Nigeria. But overseas you may find diploma courses leading to the profession. |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Rexyl(m): 5:12pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
well said @ op, but the only profession where the well trained or graduates are not jobless is farming. So don't forget to think about farming alongside whatever you practice. Other systems requiring professional services may collapse, but stomach that has collapsed of hunger needs urgent attention more than something else OP, you deliberately mocked or have contempt for those taking up God's service as a profession. Don't you know that's is the only service God would remember you for while whatever you might have achieved on the earth would have passed away or come to vanity. 1 Like |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Nobody: 5:16pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
INDESTRUCTABLEX:This post is one of the best so far. (My opinion, forgive me) I see some are already forming the opinion that I am advertising radiography! Let me give a brief history: At the time that the course was being taught only at the Federal School of Radiography, Yaba, a senior radiographer friend told me that students came from Gambia on government sponsorship and that many state government send their people as students to study the course. The exams were set from London. To qualify you must pass and have Diploma, College of Radiography. You have to pay in pounds sterling. Many private crashed out after failing or simply not being able to raise the exchange. So you have to love the profession to complete it. Those who wanted to study medicine crashed out and those who wanted to study Marine Engineering crashed out. But many doctors and lawyers and architects today will wish they are able to have the same OPPORTUNITIES that professionals like radiographers have, without having a godfather. |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by sonnie10: 5:24pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
themall: The other day, I was talking to someone and he asked, "how come people in US are allowed to do radiography for just two years while it is five years in Nigeria?" This is the misconception that most people in Nigeria have. In US, before you are accepted to study radiography at the Associated degree level (Diploma), you must have spent about 2 years taking college level courses. 1) The requirement apart from electives and other general courses (prerequisites) include: Biology l , first semester year1 > Biology ll , second semester year 1. Then you proceed to; Anatomy and physiology l , first semeter year ll > Anatomy and physiology ll second semester year ll 2) After which you are accepted into the radiology program. Then you spend another two years of five semesters including one summer semester. 3) Then you graduate and start preparing for the board exam which might take another 3-6months. If you pass, you are then given and Initial license to practice which you have to maintain for one year. After that, you are then given a permanent license. So, when you add all of these, that would be 5 years plus, which is about that same number of years one would spend in a Nigeria University. 1 Like |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Nobody: 5:34pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
sonnie10:Very good observation. You talk from a position of knowledge. These are the issues that early pioneers of the profession has tried to address namely: 1. Inferiority complex 2. Carrier Pathways 3. Carrier Advancements. - What you should realize is that radiographers have to battle medical doctors from LUTH to UCH to many teaching and General hospitals before they got to where they are. That's why the opportunities continue to remain attractive as a way to succeed independently. The old students of the Federal School of Radiography had to JIHAD with even their own teachers in other to have the school under the University of Lagos, Akoka. Radiography is a profession, the closest to it that I can think of is a certified accountant by ICAN. Maybe you know that even a professor of accounting is not permitted to practice! Also any chartered accountant must go back to 300 level in the university to get a degree. Academic degrees are not the same as licence to practice a profession. But you are right that there is no PHD in radiography. But that is not the scope of this thread. The thread only informs about what course can take you thorough open doors if you are determined to take that option. |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by stineb1: 5:35pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
moffymichael:Nuclear medicine,Magnetic Resonance Imaging and Ultrasound are specialties of Radiography.The practice is mostly done by Radiographers. |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by drnoel: 5:35pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
themall: Pls don't mislead people if you don't have the information. Most of the things you said here are wrong. A radiologist can do the Images of any patient. The radiologist is allowed because he is taught and experienced in the field and art of radiation exposure and its implications. So the law allows a radiologist not just to take the pictures but also interprete them. Also radiography as its is called now was previously on of the professions initially referred to as radiation technician. It is for the sake of prestige that the name was changed. |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by nelszx: 5:38pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
themall: Ur girl friend has lied to u she studied Science lab tech not Medical Laboratory Science. Medical Laboratory Science can never be studied at Yaba tech NEVER. Nobody will study Medical Laboratory Science and go back to nursing. Medical Laboratory is not and has never given OND but rather B.MLS degrees 1 Like |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by shirgles(m): 5:42pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
Maybe I should do dis cos |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Nobody: 5:44pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
Rexyl:No mockery intended. But I consider the Lord's work as a charity. it should be a not-for-profit profession. The scenario am describing is business and profit for the Nigerian youth, no godfathers, no queuing up in the sun for jobs that is not backed by constitutional, labour and professional protection. |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Nobody: 5:51pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
I am self employed and i'm loving it. Even when i'm sleeping my cash is running errands for me yet your so called radiographer will wake up and go to work else he won't get paid. How many radiographers are employers? from what you posted here, they are all employees |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by nelszx: 5:53pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
There's no job in Nigeria dat gvs immediate employment. The unemployment is just for months in the Medical world cos before u snap there's vacancies somewhere. FYI Mr OP, Medical Laboratory Science is a university awarding course and the work force is much with numerous specialties in pathology. For NYSC most facilities accommodates everyone but with preference to some (Drs, nurses, pharmacists, Medical laboratory scientist and any other) not how you painted it. If you are jobless in the Medical field ask well sth is wrong somewhere. Doctors, Pharmacists and Medical laboratory scientist are all employers of labour. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Nobody: 6:04pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
drnoel:Dr Noel you will run foul of the law if you are found as - A Dangerous Practice Officer (DPO). If you are a radiologist you probably have theoretical knowledge and SOME clinical experience in the views and position in an procedure or examination. You are not a radiographer and you could easily go to jail. Do not pass insidious misinformation to others in other to win an argument. Big headed doctors who had a pass degree grade have caused a lot of problems for hospitals and patients by making assumptions out of ego and ignorance. Some doctors even claim to be experts in keeping hospital records. To them only the medical doctor have all the knowledge! It's a kind of inferiority complex. Radiographers too had to battle this notion. That's why a Doctor will open his mouth and say "I ALSO A RADIOGRAPHER" |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by joey150(m): 6:16pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
themall:are you a radiographer or planning to be one? Well you should sensitise those still taking jamb or in their early university years. |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by sonnie10: 6:22pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
drnoel: I agree with you that radiologist are permitted to take X-Ray but that is not the standard of care in radiology. It is unethical to leave the care of patient with someone who does not have mastery of the equipment. The radiologist domain is in the reading room and not the exam room. Most of those equipment need certain level of expertise to avoid injury to patient. With multiple knobs and controls, there is no time to start figuring out which to use while a patient is on the table. Also, the name was not changed because of prestige. Things have really changed over the past decades. Without advance knowledge of certain medical and science courses, there is no way Radiographers could possible obtain optimal images for studies (reading) considering the current sophisticated equipment they work with. May be you still have the impression of dark room and washing of radiographic films, it might interest you to know that those day are gone. Even, the days of computer radiography are numbered. What they have now is digital radiography with the science and technology that comes with it. Radiographers must now have the knowledge of electronics clinical information system, in addition to medical knowledge. The work flow through PACS and similar software have made it more complicated this days. So, now tell me why a radiographer would acquire all these education and you still conclude that the name change is just for prestige? |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by cyspecial: 6:25pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
I will still choose Pharmacy any day anytime....Px rocks 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by 9iceEze: 6:26pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
Op u no good oo so you want high unemployment rate 4 radios abi? As dm tek do engrs abi? E no go work. |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Nobody: 6:28pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
[b] nelszx: You're right about there always being a job for those in the medical world. This post only informs about one area in which the benefits far outweighs the cost. Doctors will always get some employment, same as many paramedics. And this post is not in competition with other professions, although some will be challenged and like to turn it to "[b]Oh OP other professions are like that, no difference in radiography[b]" Also, you are 100% wrong about automatic accommodation for doctors and nurses and paramedics.On paper it is supposed to be. But in actuality, the state must have those facilities before it can give to them. Lagos state has not finished housing it doctors and nurses! Taraba may consider doctors but not always paramedics. FACT. Best case scenario in south south is that doctors will be provided accommodation others may disappointed about the care given to them. Do not listen to ignorant people. I served in Delta. But radiographers will be given preference from day 1 in the camp! While the rest are looking, mouths wide agape and asking WHO IS THIS CORPER.....? |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Nobody: 6:31pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
sonnie10:Informative |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Nobody: 6:33pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
nelszx:Oh yes you're right. It's Lab science. Sorry for the mixup |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by mukhcech(m): 6:50pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
Agu87: Are you a student? |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by dungburu: 6:53pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
And so what? Moreover, no body remains unemployed forever. |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Mbediogu(m): 7:05pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
themall: Radiographers are technicians who are supposed to be supervised by Radiologists, but u know how our system works. All of them are now functioning as 'shadow doctors' granting themselves consultancy status, making money and polluting pure medical practice. |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by sweetbby: 7:12pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
It so annoying |
Re: No Graduate Of Medical Radiography Is Unemployed, Anywhere On Earth! by Tycoon4(m): 7:27pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
radiographers will be given preference from day 1 in the camp! While the rest are looking, mouths wide agape and asking WHO IS THIS CORPER.....?[/quote] Really?? Like really? Why would any sane human give preference to a radiographer in NYSC camp? What's their use in camp clinics? Just dey yan rubbish there and keep making yourself happy! 1 Like |
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