CltrAltDel:

I don laugh tire. ...just simple question them they write editorial up and down

HopeAtHand:


During slave trading, Igboland supplied slaves to almost all ethnicities far and near. Opobo, Bonny, Okrika, Kalabari, Ikwerre etc.

The slaves who weren't traded further gradually integrated themselves into their new society by basically learning language, customs and norms.

In the the case of bonny and opobo, after the "prescribed ceremonies", the slaves supplanted Ibani with Igbo. A first time visitor to bonny or opobo will be shocked at how Igbo is spoken as first language.

If you have to correct the "anomaly" and revert back to your language, you will need to do more than asking what "bo ye fi" means. what next? Maybe you should adopt the entire Kalabari language.

olaitoro:

go is english
muu is ibani Igbo
puo is dieletic igbo
fuo is awka/ enugu Igbo
rufu is abakiliki Igbo
jee central Igbo
gaa is onitsha urban Igbo
etc.

my dear watch the difference, it mustn't be pronounce the same way for it to be a dialect of a langauge.

what makes a langauge a dialect is that when it is mutually intelligible with the main langauge.

for instance, someone from Bonny doesnt need an interpreter to communicate with an orlu man and vice verse.

amInigerian:

[size=13pt]I have said that it is quite a sight to see that Igbos do not even know their own history and this is the process by which they educate themselves on their own history as it relates to others

Step 1) Imagine a thing that feeds their peculiar case of historical grandeur mirage.
Step 2) Come out in public and assert it as a prof would assert a fact.
Step 3) Repeat step 2 until the folly therein has been exposed.
Step 4) Start from step 1 all over again.

Now I attach below the explanation for the the use of Igbo in the Bonny main town. Look at the kind of source associated with my info. And are you not aware that Bonny main town is just the capital of the ancient kingdom? Do you know that every other village in the kingdom did not get affected by the information I have attached below?

Anyway, I believe my questions are appropriate. I have lived in Nember and Brass before, which are both father away from Bonny than Kalabari and the language is just like Ibani because they are all Ijaws. So there is no question of Adopting their language. We (kalabaris, Ibanis, Okrikas, Nembers, etc) already adopted the same tongue from wherever it was that we originated from.[/size]

HopeAtHand:



It still gives a bad impression if your aboriginal language isnt spoken in your administrative capital but restricted to villages and communuties beyond. No business takes us to your other villages, so we best conclude with what we see. Correct the anomaly while you can, if possible let Ibani be taught compulsorily in all primary schools in Bonny.

Pls and pls, a bonny man can hear kalabari and Okrika words, but a bonny man will be lost in Brass. A bonny man will be lost in Sagbama,Ogbia, Odi, Kolokuma etc. You don't need to paint "we are all Ijaw picture" to me. Ijawness is more a thing of culture similarity and not neccesarily language. Im a Riverian as you, some few decades back, Bayelsa was part of Rivers state. Leave that matter, lets not go into that.

amInigerian:


[size=17pt]No o! from your explanation "Go" must be English Igbo

And "Wa" must be Yoruba Igbo

And "Zo" must be Hausa Igbo

Just as "O beee boo wa mu" must be Ibani Igbo

And "Shokolokobangoshe" or "Ero ona ni royin oka to gbo" must be Yoruba Igbo

Display yourself.

Fraud!

In fact...

gerrarahere mehn! [/size]

amInigerian:

[size=13pt]You have misfired. I have lived in Aba before:
Come and eat in Igbo is "Bia rie ihe"

In central Igbo, ihe means "something"
You chose a dialectical version where they say "ife" instead of "ihe"

You obviously chose the version of Igbo where they say "ife" instead of "ihe" thinking that it would correspond with what "fi" stands for in Ibani.

You misfired there because you did not know that they would mean
two completely different things in the 2 languages

Whereas "ife" is a noun in Igbo referring to something tangible in general,
"fi" in Ibani is actually a verb which means to eat.[/size]

[size=18pt]Next...

"go" is "muu" in Ibani
How do they say it in Igbo?

"Cloth" is "bite" in Ibani
How do they say it in Igbo?

"Tell him to come" is "O beee boo" in Ibani
How do they say it in Igbo?

"Tell him to come so that we can start going" is "O beee boo wa mu" in Ibani
How do they say it in Igbo?

[/size]

HopeAtHand:



It still gives a bad impression if your aboriginal language isnt spoken in your administrative capital but restricted to villages and communuties beyond. No business takes us to your other villages, so we best conclude with what we see. Correct the anomaly while you can, if possible let Ibani be taught compulsorily in all primary schools in Bonny.

Pls and pls, a bonny man can hear kalabari and Okrika words, but a bonny man will be lost in Brass. A bonny man will be lost in Sagbama,Ogbia, Odi, Kolokuma etc. You don't need to paint "we are all Ijaw picture" to me. Ijawness is more a thing of culture similarity and not neccesarily language. Im a Riverian as you, some few decades back, Bayelsa was part of Rivers state. Leave that matter, lets not go into that.

olaitoro:

my dear dont be daft, go and the meaning of intelligible.
I know even in your yoruba langauge, there are dialectic variation.

infact ekiti yoruba and ijebu yoruba have variances that some folk still doubt if they are yoruba dialect.

I stay in SW so I am not guessing.

amInigerian:

[size=4pt]Go and sleep. This thread has served its purpose.
This is the only way to deal with Igbos - thrash hard. And with purpose[/size]

amInigerian:

A Bonny man will not be lost in Brass. It is when you start going towards Sagbama, Ogbia etc, that the language starts changing more. I lived in Brass and Nembe myself when the two states were still one state. My dad communicated well with the Nember and Brass people. In fact, Kalabari, Bonny and Okrika wont be lost in Sagbama but the language varies more there and it gets harder to communicate. It gets even harder in Ogbia. It gets harder as you move further and further in that direction

amInigerian:

[size=13pt]Go and sleep. This thread has served its purpose.
This is the only way to deal with Igbos - thrash hard. And with purpose[/size]

olaitoro:


you must be funny boy, which purpose has it served?
your ranting online doesn't stop bonny from being Igbo.
go to bonny and tell them that they are not Igbos and watch them beat you black and blue.

rufu here boy I don't have time for nonetities

Wulfruna:
I do not know when or if anyone said Ibani language is Igbo. Ibani language is Ijo, and I want to believe everyone knows that. What the op is confused about is a second language widely spoken on Bonny Island as well as Opobo which is the same as the kind of Igbo spoken in Ndoki, Abia.

olaitoro:


you must be funny boy, which purpose has it served?
your ranting online doesn't stop bonny from being Igbo.
go to bonny and tell them that they are not Igbos and watch them beat you black and blue.

rufu here boy I don't have time for nonetities

olaitoro:

my dear dont be daft, go and the meaning of intelligible.
I know even in your yoruba langauge, there are dialectic variation.

infact ekiti yoruba and ijebu yoruba have variances that some folk still doubt if they are yoruba dialect.

I stay in SW so I am not guessing.

semitunde:
There's no Yoruba dialect that is doubted, no matter how unintelligible. They are Yoruba, they feel Yoruba and proudly call themselves Yoruba.

It is those from outside who want some sense of attachment to the tribe that try to sniff into those areas.

I don't just stay in SW. I'M Yoruba, and one of the dialects you're mentioning there is a part of of my family.

96xtr6r:


Stop your unnecessary propaganda...

Be concerned about Ijebu people who said that they are not Yoruba.
Be worried also about Kabba, Okun, Egun in Badagry and Akoko that detest been termed Yoruba.

semitunde:
Part of my family is also from Akoko. We are Yoruba. Don't misrepresent a tribe that is not yours with misinformation.

You know nothing about ijebus. You can never be in their shoes or feel the way they feel. Its a Yoruba thing. The best you can do is to learn from the culture and adapt to the way of life.

96xtr6r:


That's the more reason you and your fellow Yorubas should have change of hearts and learn to mind your business.

That Ijebus sojourned from Sudan and many Yorubas like you castigate them should be your preoccupation and not looking for Igbos to blame.

You ought to be in the know that your half a century propaganda against Igbos is already boomeranging...

semitunde:
You really should face your tribe and stay away from what you know nothing about.

96xtr6r:


Warn your fellow Yorubas to stop using lies and propaganda to drag some other ethnic groups along to be ablessed to stand against the Igbo Nation while continually ass-licking your Hausa-Fulani masters.

It's not working anymore. Learn to stand alone.

semitunde:
I'm not in the mood nor have the time to school you on a few things about knowledge and its necessary acquisition. I see you're the new tribal troll, maybe you should learn from wiser folks amongst your kinsmen how to be a younger onijogbon brother.

amInigerian:

My post is to show that Ibani is not Igbo. Some Igbos who did not know their left from their right before the white man came are now saying that one of the grandest (if not the grandest) ancient kingdom of Ijaw land before colonialism is actually them. Imagine the madness