paulGrundy:


So its Russell who was born 2000+ years after Jesus that has been with Jesus physically through his escapades. funny you!



“The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.” jw.org 2012 Annual Meeting Report

"Similarly, starting in 1919, Jehovah brought forth the seed of the woman as a spiritual nation." Revelation - It's Grand Climax (re) p.184

Its was a bit adjusted in 2013

"To settle that question, Jesus began to inspect the spiritual temple in 1914. That inspection and cleansing work involved a period of time—from 1914 to the early part of 1919.[3] ... Endnotes:... Paragraph 6: [3] This is an adjustment in understanding. Previously, we thought that Jesus’ inspection took place in 1918." (Watchtower 2013 Jul 15 pp.11,14)



The religion is Jesus and he resides in your heart. God never created any structure or any go between in order to reach him, its impostors, fakes that do so.

you just keep repeating yourself. is anyone forcing to embrace jw or accept their teaching? if you really want to discredit jw,publish book on that and distribute them freely to all people or start visiting homes, villages, town, cities and nations telling them that jw teachings are not correct oh.

goodnewscliff:
like i said no other organisation would be humble enof to accept correction and make changes irrespective of many factors including critics....E.G.....MOSES DID LEAD THE PEOPLE OF ISREALITES BUT WHEN HE FAILED HE RECORDED IT IN THE BIBLE... We aint perfect , we make mistakes and adjust as we understand deep bible truths...which other religion does thatUR BIBLE IS MATHEMATICAL...u dont read so u will neva knw......i KNW UR CHURCH IS PERFECT#WEIRDOES

Read the quotes well, that is not correction of mistake, it was a slight modification to reinforce the date.

CANTICLES:


give him another point , and he will fly to the Mormons , The witnesses dont go to war , the losers typical reply: the mormons dont too , this time its not the Catholic anymore but Mormons .

And to show such a pathetic liar that you are, I never made such claim.

Educate yourself, the internet has a wide range of information which you could use to verify claims.

paulGrundy:


Read the quotes well, that is not correction of mistake, it was a slight modification to reinforce the date.

change and adjustments that was necessary.....IF U WANT TO CRITICIZE THE WITNESS, DO DAT BASED ON UR BIBLE,not on corrections that has been made decades ago when the truth was still growing

goodnewscliff:
change and adjustments that was necessary.....IF U WANT TO CRITICIZE THE WITNESS, DO DAT BASED ON UR BIBLE,not on corrections that has been made decades ago when the truth was still growing

Change and adjustment that states that Jesus physically was on earth and choose the watchtower in 1914/1919?

How does that sound to you?
How did the selection and cleansing take place?
What souveniors did he leave behind?
^^ and you believe that?

In this same thread one of your members (jozzy) was accusing some one to claimed he healed the sick of telling lies, because his claim sounded unbelievable,

Which of the claims is more believable?

This is the same Watchtower that tell their members to verify anything they hear. Smh

The best thing is to ignore him and his likes, they re slanders and disgruntled apostates. Their hatred will find them out.

joyandfaith:




you just keep repeating yourself. is anyone forcing to embrace jw or accept their teaching? if you really want to discredit jw,publish book on that and distribute them freely to all people or start visiting homes, villages, town, cities and nations telling them that jw teachings are not correct oh.

goodnewscliff:
everything in GODS HAND OH....satan has blinded their eyes so much that they would even cut their skin like the BAAL WORSHIPPERS IN ELIJAHS STORY to convince u of their baseless belief

well done my brother . I love your Zeal

paulGrundy:


Change and adjustment that states that Jesus physically was on earth and choose the watchtower in 1914/1919?

How does that sound to you?
How did the selection and cleansing take place?
What souveniors did he leave behind?
^^ and you believe that?

In this same thread one of your members (jozzy) was accusing some one to claimed he healed the sick of telling lies, because his claim sounded unbelievable,

Which of the claims is more believable?

This is the same Watchtower that tell their members to verify anything they hear. Smh

hehehe....where and when did we say jesus appeared physically?? Lol...we never said anything like dat...yep only jehovahs witnesses ARE GODS CHOOSEN PEOPLe...jst as the isrealites were GODS CHOOSEN PEOPLE ONLY....cant u see its OBVIOUS....

goodnewscliff:
hehehe....where and when did we say jesus appeared physically??

So how did he appear? On watchtower magazine? Or on their TV?

Lol...we never said anything like dat

So are you denying your earlier watchtower quote?

“The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.” jw.org 2012 Annual Meeting Report

^^^ lemme explain it to you, it said that Jesus himself, in his presence, appointed the fds in 1919

...yep only jehovahs witnesses ARE GODS CHOOSEN PEOPLe...jst as the isrealites were GODS CHOOSEN PEOPLE ONLY....cant u see its OBVIOUS....

I was also told the same thing by a Catholic friend of mine.

paulGrundy:


So how did he appear? On watchtower magazine? Or on their TV?



So are you denying your earlier watchtower quote?

“The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.” jw.org 2012 Annual Meeting Report

^^^ lemme explain it to you, it said that Jesus himself, in his presence, appointed the fds in 1919



I was also told the same thing by a Catholic friend of mine.

do u knw d meaning of the word ''presence''??pres·ence (prĕz′əns) n. 1. The state or fact of being present; current existence or occurrence: a student's presence in class; the presence of toxins in the blood. 2. The area immediately surrounding a great personage, especially a sovereign: in the king's presence. 3. A person who is present, especially in an impressive way: She was a presence in our lives. 4. a. A person's bearing, especially when it commands respectful attention: "He continues to possess the presence, mental as well as physical, of the young man" (Brendan Gill). b. The quality of self-assurance and effectiveness that permits a performer to achieve a rapport with the audience: stage presence. 5. A supernatural influence felt to be nearby: felt a presence during the séance. 6. The people, especially diplomats or troops, stationed by a government in a foreign country: our diplomatic presence in that nation's capital. .......numbers 2 and 5 shows that sometimes the word "presence" does not strictly reffer to someones physical and literal appearance.ITS HIGH TIME U SHOULD GIVE ATTENTION TO UR USE OF DICTIONARY b4 u go spreading lies and misinforming people....a word can mean many things.......JESUS DIDNOT APPEAR TO RUTHERFORD AS U EARLIER ASSERTED MAN....the word PRESENCE WAS SPIRITUAL NOT PHYSICAL....He didnot appear physically man...dont knw where u got that crap from....

paulGrundy:


So how did he appear? On watchtower magazine? Or on their TV?



So are you denying your earlier watchtower quote?

“The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.” jw.org 2012 Annual Meeting Report

^^^ lemme explain it to you, it said that Jesus himself, in his presence, appointed the fds in 1919



I was also told the same thing by a Catholic friend of mine.

u shud av done research in ur dictionary b4 u come type poo........only those who worship GOD IN THE RIGHT WAY(the bibles way) ARE THOSE WHO WILL BE SAVED....not every tom dick and harry religion

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paulGrundy:


So its Russell who was born 2000+ years after Jesus that has been with Jesus physically through his escapades. funny you!



“The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.” jw.org 2012 Annual Meeting Report

"Similarly, starting in 1919, Jehovah brought forth the seed of the woman as a spiritual nation." Revelation - It's Grand Climax (re) p.184

Its was a bit adjusted in 2013

"To settle that question, Jesus began to inspect the spiritual temple in 1914. That inspection and cleansing work involved a period of time—from 1914 to the early part of 1919.[3] ... Endnotes:... Paragraph 6: [3] This is an adjustment in understanding. Previously, we thought that Jesus’ inspection took place in 1918." (Watchtower 2013 Jul 15 pp.11,14)



The religion is Jesus and he resides in your heart. God never created any structure or any go between in order to reach him, its impostors, fakes that do so.

do u read ur bible?? The bible encourages coming to serve God together at hebrews 10: 24 and 25 and revelation 1: 11 talked about groups of people called "CONGREGATION"....there is a structure ....having Gods word in ur heart is so not enough...u need to gather together according to the earlier quoted HEBREWS...so there is a structure man....THERE IS....ur heart stuff aint enofff at alll

paulGrundy:


So its Russell who was born 2000+ years after Jesus that has been with Jesus physically through his escapades. funny you!



“The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters [b]during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.” jw.org 2012 Annual Meeting Report

"Similarly, starting in 1919, Jehovah brought forth the seed of the woman as a spiritual nation." Revelation - It's Grand Climax (re) p.184

Its was a bit adjusted in 2013

"To settle that question, Jesus began to inspect the spiritual temple in 1914. That inspection and cleansing work involved a period of time—from 1914 to the early part of 1919.[3] ... Endnotes:... Paragraph 6: [3] This is an adjustment in understanding. Previously, we thought that Jesus’ inspection took place in 1918." (Watchtower 2013 Jul 15 pp.11,14)



The religion is Jesus and he resides in your heart. God never created any structure or any go between in order to reach him, its impostors, fakes that do so.

do u read ur bible?? The bible encourages coming to serve God together at hebrews 10: 24 and 25 and revelation 1: 11 talked about groups of people called "CONGREGATION"....there is a structure ....having Gods word in ur heart is so not enough...u need to gather together according to the earlier quoted HEBREWS...so there is a structure man....THERE IS....ur heart stuff aint enofff at alll [/b]

paulGrundy:


So its Russell who was born 2000+ years after Jesus that has been with Jesus physically through his escapades. funny you!



“The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.” jw.org 2012 Annual Meeting Report

"Similarly, starting in 1919, Jehovah brought forth the seed of the woman as a spiritual nation." Revelation - It's Grand Climax (re) p.184

Its was a bit adjusted in 2013

"To settle that question, Jesus began to inspect the spiritual temple in 1914. That inspection and cleansing work involved a period of time—from 1914 to the early part of 1919.[3] ... Endnotes:... Paragraph 6: [3] This is an adjustment in understanding. Previously, we thought that Jesus’ inspection took place in 1918." (Watchtower 2013 Jul 15 pp.11,14)



The religion is Jesus and he resides in your heart. God never created any structure or any go between in order to reach him, its impostors, fakes that do so.

do u read ur bible?? The bible encourages coming to serve God together at hebrews 10: 24 and 25 and revelation 1: 11 talked about groups of people called "CONGREGATION"....there is a structure ....having Gods word in ur heart is so not enough...u need to gather together according to the earlier quoted HEBREWS...so there is a structure man....THERE IS....ur heart stuff aint enofff at alll God used 1 b4..he is using 1 2day

goodnewscliff:
do u knw d meaning of the word ''presence''??pres·ence (prĕz′əns) n. 1. The state or fact of being present; current existence or occurrence: a student's presence in class; the presence of toxins in the blood. 2. The area immediately surrounding a great personage, especially a sovereign: in the king's presence. 3. A person who is present, especially in an impressive way: She was a presence in our lives. 4. a. A person's bearing, especially when it commands respectful attention: "He continues to possess the presence, mental as well as physical, of the young man" (Brendan Gill). b. The quality of self-assurance and effectiveness that permits a performer to achieve a rapport with the audience: stage presence. 5. A supernatural influence felt to be nearby: felt a presence during the séance. 6. The people, especially diplomats or troops, stationed by a government in a foreign country: our diplomatic presence in that nation's capital. .......numbers 2 and 5 shows that sometimes the word "presence" does not strictly reffer to someones physical and literal appearance.ITS HIGH TIME U SHOULD GIVE ATTENTION TO UR USE OF DICTIONARY b4 u go spreading lies and misinforming people....a word can mean many things.......JESUS DIDNOT APPEAR TO RUTHERFORD AS U EARLIER ASSERTED MAN....the word PRESENCE WAS SPIRITUAL NOT PHYSICAL....He didnot appear physically man...dont knw where u got that crap from....

Now you are trying to define the word physical for me, because you are trying to so hard to prove that Jesus' presence was not implied to be physical in that quote, I'll tell you what, you failed!!

You know why?

To settle that question, Jesus began to inspect the spiritual temple in 1914. That inspection and cleansing work involved a period of time—from 1914 to the early part of 1919.[3] ... Endnotes:... Paragraph 6: [3] This is an adjustment in understanding. Previously, we thought that Jesus’ inspection took place in 1918." (Watchtower 2013 Jul 15 pp.11,14)

@bolded, its most unlikely for inspection and cleansing to take place in the absence of Jesus, given the way the quote is put above. Well what does it matter? Physically or spiritually the claim is vague and has no scriptural backing, hence validating my earlier argument.

goodnewscliff:
[size=8pt][/size]do u read ur bible?? The bible encourages coming to serve God together at hebrews 10: 24 and 25 and revelation 1: 11 talked about groups of people called "CONGREGATION"....there is a structure ....having Gods word in ur heart is so not enough...u need to gather together according to the earlier quoted HEBREWS...so there is a structure man....THERE IS....ur heart stuff aint enofff at alll [b]do u read ur bible?? The bible encourages coming to serve God together at hebrews 10: 24 and 25 and revelation 1: 11 talked about groups of people called "CONGREGATION"....there is a structure ....having Gods word in ur heart is so not enough...u need to gather together according to the earlier quoted HEBREWS...so there is a structure man....THERE IS....ur heart stuff aint enofff at alll [/b]do u read ur bible?? The bible encourages coming to serve God together at hebrews 10: 24 and 25 and revelation 1: 11 talked about groups of people called "CONGREGATION"....there is a structure ....having Gods word in ur heart is so not enough...u need to gather together according to the earlier quoted HEBREWS...so there is a structure man....THERE IS....ur heart stuff aint enofff at alll God used 1 b4..he is using 1 2day

Do you read your bible at all? It said in 1timothy 2:5 that is ONLY one link between God and man, that's Jesus.

The same Jesus said in John 10 that he is the door to the sheep any one who come via another way is a theif or hirling (one who called himself).

The watchtower and several other denominations claim to be a link (door) between God and their members.

Consider again the FDS 40million dollar assets in cayman islands and over billion dollar investments all over US.

And the funny moonlight childrens folklores about an invisible Jesus(whom nobody saw) cleansing and choosing a temple(the process was not explained, how? When? Where did it take place?)
Just because they want you to believe that they are the true religion, and maintain their customers.


What does that tell you?

Use your head!, some group of discreet smart billionaires a making raw cash out of your sincere love for truth.

The apostles encoaraged gathering of the saints, but they Never claimed obedience to them would gaurantee salvation just like the watchtower, instead they subscribed to faith wholly in Jesus.

goodnewscliff:
u shud av done research in ur dictionary b4 u come type poo........only those who worship GOD IN THE RIGHT WAY(the bibles way) ARE THOSE WHO WILL BE SAVED....not every tom dick and harry religion

Are you saying my catholic friend is lying?

If yes what is the yardstick for salvation?

Finished Mystery 1917 By Charles Taze Russell the founder of the Jehovah Witnesses.
Is a book I believe every JW should read about their true and faithful man of a God, It was this man-who wasn't educated in the scriptures until he believes God had spoken with Him, and of course he had written his adventurer in a book called the Finished Mystery 1917 which was published in 1917 Advertised and the posthumous work of Pastor Charles.T. Russell and published by the Watchtower bible to track society {Now known as Jehovah Witnesses} The Book was later written by C.J.Woodworth and George Fisher and authorised for publication by J.F.Rutherford, second President of the Watchtower society, it was consided a volume 7 of studies in the scriptures by those bible students who stayed in fellowship with Rutherford.
The Finished Mystery is referenced in modern publications of the Jehovah Witnesses as being a landmark book. Best viewed in PDF Format.
These are some of Charles Russell's teaching below He himself believed along with J Rutherford C.Woodworth, and George Fisher and of course the students that stood beside Rutherford.
Charles Russell believed he was a faithful and wise servant {P 4}
He believed Jesus gave Him the key to understanding God's mysteries in the Last Days { P 6}
Charles Russell believed Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega in {Revelation 1:8, 21:6 and 22:13 on P 15, P 318, P 336}
He also told his followers "There is no need to study after the Hebrew and Greek languages to gain a correct and understanding of the bible because the Presbyterians and the Methodist have good versions of the bible at reasonable prices {P 55}

One must be born again before he could enter into the kingdom of God.. You can worship whom ever you please-worship doesn't get you in to heaven-and worship cannot save you-Jesus saves you.
OPP's sorry you haven't met Jesus yet?

goodnewscliff:
u shud av done research in ur dictionary b4 u come type poo........only those who worship GOD IN THE RIGHT WAY(the bibles way) ARE THOSE WHO WILL BE SAVED....not every tom dick and harry religion

Let them in, treat them nice and study with them.
I've got one of them as a friend. Funnily, he and the others I've met do not 't I'm a atheist.

paulGrundy:


Now you are trying to define the word physical for me, because you are trying to so hard to prove that Jesus' presence was not implied to be physical in that quote, I'll tell you what, you failed!!

You know why?

To settle that question, Jesus began to inspect the spiritual temple in 1914. That inspection and cleansing work involved a period of time—from 1914 to the early part of 1919.[3] ... Endnotes:... Paragraph 6: [3] This is an adjustment in understanding. Previously, we thought that Jesus’ inspection took place in 1918." (Watchtower 2013 Jul 15 pp.11,14)

@bolded, its most unlikely for inspection and cleansing to take place in the absence of Jesus, given the way the quote is put above. Well what does it matter? Physically or spiritually the claim is vague and has no scriptural backing, hence validating my earlier argument.

u dont knw what u re typing....u are not even one sided...u initially were claiming about jesus appearin physically to rutherford...later u claim that we believed jesus "presence" was PHYSICAL....now u re claiming somrthing else....Y CANT U BE A REASONABLE CRITICS WITH TANGIBLE CLAIMS FOR ONCE.??..lol...i think i was the right man 4 u...hehehehe...JESUS PRESENCE IN 1919 IS SOMETHING U WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WITH UR WRONG MOTIVE...JESUS INSPECTED THE SPIRITUAL TEMPLE...hw does dat imply PHYSICAL AGAIN??can a physical person inspect a spiritual templelol...hehehe....DATS IMPOSSIBLE!!!...u av to be spiritual to do dat man....BE REASONABLE AND LOGICAL FOR ONCE...lol...be reasonable in criticising and dont always FORGET TO USE UR DICTIONARY.....

paulGrundy:


Are you saying my catholic friend is lying?

If yes what is the yardstick for salvation?

YOUR BIBLE WILL LEAD U......DO U READ UR BIBLE AND UNDERSTAND ITS MEANING DAILY?

brocab:
One must be born again before he could enter into the kingdom of God.. You can worship whom ever you please-worship doesn't get you in to heaven-and worship cannot save you-Jesus saves you.
OPP's sorry you haven't met Jesus yet?

errrrhhhh....WHAT I WOULD PRESCRIBE IS 4 u is UR BIBLE...go and read it and try to make a regular study schdule for urself..start with bible basics or visit JW.org

goodnewscliff:
YOUR BIBLE WILL LEAD U......DO U READ UR BIBLE AND UNDERSTAND ITS MEANING DAILY?

My bible tells me that Faith in Jesus' death and ressurection will gaurantee me salvation, why is yours different?

Why must obedience to the governing body gaurantee me salvation?

goodnewscliff:
u dont knw what u re typing....u are not even one sided...u initially were claiming about jesus appearin physically to rutherford...later u claim that we believed jesus "presence" was PHYSICAL....now u re claiming somrthing else....

My claim is VERY CONSISTENT! You are the one misquoting me and misinterpreting the watchtower.

Y CANT U BE A REASONABLE CRITICS WITH TANGIBLE CLAIMS FOR ONCE.??..lol...i think i was the right man 4 u...hehehehe...JESUS PRESENCE IN 1919 IS SOMETHING U WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WITH UR WRONG MOTIVE...JESUS INSPECTED THE SPIRITUAL TEMPLE...hw does dat imply PHYSICAL AGAIN??can a physical person inspect a spiritual temple

How can inspection and cleansing take place, if its not done physically?
I put questions to you about that claim yet you COULD NOT answer.

1. How did it happen?
2. When? Where?
3. Who were the witnesses present when the inspection took place?

lol...hehehe....DATS IMPOSSIBLE!!!...u av to be spiritual to do dat man....BE REASONABLE AND LOGICAL FOR ONCE...lol...be reasonable in criticising and dont always FORGET TO USE UR DICTIONARY.....

So how did it take place spiritually as you claim?

brocab:
Finished Mystery 1917 By Charles Taze Russell the founder of the Jehovah Witnesses.
Is a book I believe every JW should read about their true and faithful man of a God, It was this man-who wasn't educated in the scriptures until he believes God had spoken with Him, and of course he had written his adventurer in a book called the Finished Mystery 1917 which was published in 1917 Advertised and the posthumous work of Pastor Charles.T. Russell and published by the Watchtower bible to track society {Now known as Jehovah Witnesses} The Book was later written by C.J.Woodworth and George Fisher and authorised for publication by J.F.Rutherford, second President of the Watchtower society, it was consided a volume 7 of studies in the scriptures by those bible students who stayed in fellowship with Rutherford.
The Finished Mystery is referenced in modern publications of the Jehovah Witnesses as being a landmark book. Best viewed in PDF Format.
These are some of Charles Russell's teaching below He himself believed along with J Rutherford C.Woodworth, and George Fisher and of course the students that stood beside Rutherford.
Charles Russell believed he was a faithful and wise servant {P 4}
He believed Jesus gave Him the key to understanding God's mysteries in the Last Days { P 6}
Charles Russell believed Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega in {Revelation 1:8, 21:6 and 22:13 on P 15, P 318, P 336}
He also told his followers "There is no need to study after the Hebrew and Greek languages to gain a correct and understanding of the bible because the Presbyterians and the Methodist have good versions of the bible at reasonable prices {P 55}

How did you get access to rutherfords, russels books? Which site? Am interested.

It would be nice to post the books that contain past watchtower teaxhings, so that Witnesses can see how ridiculous watchtower edicts and structures can be.

paulGrundy:


My claim is VERY CONSISTENT! You are the one misquoting me and misinterpreting the watchtower.




How can inspection and cleansing take place, if its not done physically?
I put questions to you about that claim yet you COULD NOT answer.

1. How did it happen?
2. When? Where?
3. Who were the witnesses present when the inspection took place?



So how did it take place spiritually as you claim?

something i cant xplain to u online......something u ve got to understand with the right motive....not the fault finding motive

paulGrundy:


My bible tells me that Faith in Jesus' death and ressurection will gaurantee me salvation, why is yours different?

Why must obedience to the governing body gaurantee me salvation?

when faith without works is dead?? FAITH AINT ENOF..U HAVE TO WORK WITH WHAT U VE LEARNT AND PUT THEM INTO PRACTICE...READ AND APPLY BIBLE PRINCIPLE...

paulGrundy:


How did you get access to rutherfords, russels books? Which site? Am interested.

It would be nice to post the books that contain past watchtower teaxhings, so that Witnesses can see how ridiculous watchtower edicts and structures can be.

its a good thing we ve corrected and made and accept changes.....so when u go look 4 one past watchtower teaching, i will show u the our recent updates....#CHANGE...u re sounding like a baptist

some people think teachings of jehovah witnesses are without error. Bible can be wrongly interpreted especially core doctrines which are not too essential for salvation. Salvation is not possible without faith in christ ransom for christ is only way to God. however, faith is not enough even demons believe that Jesus is only way to God. our faith must back by works. which works? jam2:14,26
(A person does not earn salvation by his works. But anyone who has genuine faith will have works to go with it—works of obedience to the commands of God and Christ, works that demonstrate his faith and love. Without such works, his faith is dead.
The Bible’s answer
The terms “save” and “salvation” are sometimes used by Bible writers to convey the idea of a person’s being delivered from danger or destruction. ( Exodus 14:13, 14; Acts 27:20 ) Often, though, these terms refer to deliverance from sin. ( Matthew 1:21 ) Since death is caused by sin, people who are saved from sin have the hope of living forever.— John 3:16, 17. *
What is the way to salvation?
To gain salvation, you must exercise faith in Jesus and demonstrate that faith by obeying his commands.— Acts 4:10, 12; Romans 10:9, 10; Hebrews 5:9 .
The Bible shows that you must have works, or acts of obedience, to prove that your faith is alive. ( James 2:24, 26 ) However, this does not mean that you can earn salvation. It is “God’s gift” based on his “undeserved kindness,” or “grace.”— Ephesians 2:8, 9 ; King James Version.
Can you lose out on salvation?
Yes. Just as a person saved from drowning could fall or jump back into the water, a person who has been saved from sin but fails to keep exercising faith could lose out on salvation. For this reason, the Bible urges Christians who have received salvation “to put up a hard fight for the faith.” ( Jude 3 ) It also warns those who have been saved: “Keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”— Philippians 2:12 .
Who is the Savior—God or Jesus?
The Bible identifies God as the primary source of salvation, often referring to him as “Savior.” ( 1 Samuel 10:19; Isaiah 43:11; Titus 2:10; Jude 25 ) In addition, God used various men to deliver the ancient nation of Israel, and the Bible calls them “saviors.” ( Nehemiah 9:27; Judges 3:9, 15; 2 Kings 13:5 ) * Likewise, since God provides salvation from sin through the
ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ , the Bible refers to Jesus as “Savior.”— Acts 5:31; Titus 1:4 . *
Will everyone be saved?
No, some people will not be saved. ( 2 Thessalonians 1:9 ) When Jesus was asked, “Are those being saved few?” he replied: “Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able.”— Luke 13:23, 24 .
Misconceptions about universal salvation
Misconception: First Corinthians 15:22 teaches universal salvation by saying that “in the Christ all will be made alive.”
Fact: The context of this verse discusses the resurrection . ( 1 Corinthians 15:12, 13, 20, 21, 35) So the phrase “in the Christ all will be made alive” simply means that all who are resurrected receive this blessing through Jesus Christ.— John 11:25 .
Misconception: Titus 2:11 teaches universal salvation by saying that God is “bringing salvation to all people.”— International Standard Version.
Fact: The Greek word translated “all” in this verse can also mean “every kind or variety.” * Thus, the correct understanding of Titus 2:11 is that God is making salvation available to all
sorts of people, including people “out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues.”—
Revelation 7:9, 10 .
Misconception: Second Peter 3:9 teaches universal salvation by saying that God “does not desire anyone to be destroyed.”
Fact: God wants people to be saved, but he does not force them to accept his provision for salvation. His “day of judgment ” will include the “destruction of the ungodly people.”— 2 Peter 3:7
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-salvation/

He is scared of mentioning his church.

goodnewscliff:
its a good thing we ve corrected and made and accept changes.....so when u go look 4 one past watchtower teaching, i will show u the our recent updates....#CHANGE...u re sounding like a baptist

;DHe is scared of mentioning his church.

goodnewscliff:
its a good thing we ve corrected and made and accept changes.....so when u go look 4 one past watchtower teaching, i will show u the our recent updates....#CHANGE...u re sounding like a baptist

goodnewscliff:
when faith without works is dead?? FAITH AINT ENOF..U HAVE TO WORK WITH WHAT U VE LEARNT AND PUT THEM INTO PRACTICE...READ AND APPLY BIBLE PRINCIPLE...

Am glad you talked about practising bible principle, not being loyal to an organization or the governing body. But check this out:

Romans 3:28-30King James Version (KJV)

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

goodnewscliff:
something i cant xplain to u online......something u ve got to understand with the right motive....not the fault finding motive

Not that you can't explain to me, but you don't know the answer.