realmindz:
Pls read
2nd Kings 24:8 declares, “Jehoiachin was 18 years old when he began to reign,” while

2 Chronicles 36:9 says, “Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he began to reign.


Same bible, same story, contradicting accounts...kindly explain




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Shouldnt ur common sense tell u that with god all things are possible . he can make jehovah 18 and 8 at the same time . after all he made jesus his son to be born years before the death of herod in the book of matthew and many years after the death of the same herod in the book of luke

malvisguy212:
read 2 Kings 11:21; and 2 Chron.24:1

I tire for your case

Y'all can't argue without mentioning me? Who's twisting whose facts? Abeg

urahara:


Shouldnt ur common sense tell u that with god all things are possible . he can make jehovah 18 and 8 at the same time . after all he made jesus his son to be born years before the death of herod in the book of matthew and many years after the death of the same herod in the book of luke

There were certainly few mistakes in the copying of some bible text .but it's only a minor thing because it had to do with numerals . It doesn't affect the truth or revelations communicated

Joagbaje:


There were certainly few mistakes in the copying of some bible text .but it's only a minor thing because it had to do with numerals . It doesn't affect the truth or revelations communicated

so we can come to the conclusion that the bible is not perfect...

realmindz:

so we can come to the conclusion that the bible is not perfect...

if theres a typographical error in your sms . does that invalidate it

Joagbaje:


if theres a typographical error in your sms . does that invalidate it

of course I'm not perfect, and my sms wasn't inspired from above...I never claimed any of that.

If u were a witness in court, you were asked when last u saw a suspect. At first u said 3 weeks ago, then later on u were asked the same question and u said 2 months ago. Does that make u honest?

Joagbaje:


There were certainly few mistakes in the copying of some bible text .but it's only a minor thing because it had to do with numerals . It doesn't affect the truth or revelations communicated

My brother there are other errors that have to do with things way more than numerals.


Bro at least ur quite honest with urself . rather than trying to perform verbal gymnastics

Joagbaje:


if theres a typographical error in your sms . does that invalidate it

Wonderful analogy

realmindz:
2nd Samuel 24: Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, "Go and take a census.....


1st Chronicles 21 : Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel...


Two accounts of the same story in the same bible, but one account said it was the Lord and another said it was Satan ....................................................................................

Please is the bible contradicting itself or was it a mistake from the writer? someone said Jehovah was satan...lol don't want to believe that.....

bible scholars, pls help
Muafrika2 KingEbukasBlog winner01 Joagbaje

satan is not self existing, satan derives his existence from God. When God wants to punish a person/people, He sends satan to them, satan is the name of the hand of God's punishment, satan is anyone that God uses to bring wrath or punishment or evil. Anybody that God uses to punish another person is satan. God's wrath arose against Israel, and David was used as satan to punish her.

Amos 3:6
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

realmindz:

of course I'm not perfect, and my sms wasn't inspired from above...I never claimed any of that.

The text of the bible were copied by hand before the invention of the printing press. Some scribes duplicating it could make numerical error. It's only in few places that occur in the Old Testament . And it has to do with numerals .

Joagbaje:


The text of the bible were copied by hand before the invention of the printing press. Some scribes duplicating it could make numerical error. It's only in few places that occur in the Old Testament . And it has to do with numerals .

ok, I think u are rly sincere and more believeble unlike some here just twisting and making assumptions and fallacious conclusions...for example look at that Mrpresident1 above that came with a dynamite lie to blow up the thread

MrPresident1:


Amos 3:6
Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

Thank you Mrpresident1, now I know better the sources of evil...



sonoflucifer, come over here, I thought ur dad was the heavyweight champion in this

realmindz:

ok, I think u are rly sincere and more believeble unlike some here just twisting and making assumptions and fallacious conclusions...for example look at that Mrpresident1 above that came with a dynamite lie to blow up the thread

Lmao mo fo o

urahara:


Lmao mo fo o

no be my fault oo, lol

realmindz:

ok, I think u are rly sincere and more believeble unlike some here just twisting and making assumptions and fallacious conclusions...for example look at that Mrpresident1 above that came with a dynamite lie to blow up the thread

dynamite lie?

realmindz:
2nd Samuel 24: Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, "Go and take a census.....
1st Chronicles 21 : Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel...
Two accounts of the same story in the same bible, but one account said it was the Lord and another said it was Satan ....................................................................................
Please is the bible contradicting itself or was it a mistake from the writer? someone said Jehovah was satan...lol don't want to believe that....

These are not actually contradictory statements. God is the one who commands Satan — Satan's master and creator is the God of Israel. Satan was created for the job he does and he acts true to his programming. That is what Scripture in fact reveals. So, in the Book of Job where we see that Job did not lay blame for any of what happened to him on Satan, but said "God did it...," Job wasn't being foolish at all. Job was after all a man approved righteous by God.

youngaz:
Wen Matthew,Mark,Luke and John were asked dat ao many pple visited Jesus grave wen he ressurrected dey all gave different numba of pple.....wat i dnt undastand is it not holy spirit dat inspired John also inspired Matthew,why are dey aving different "views" on some issues in d Bible

Look up the meaning of the word Inspired in the Dictionary and try to realize how much it differs from the word True in the same Dictionary.

By the way, the different accounts regarding how many visited the tomb were not of error or contradiction but of facts available to each writer at the time of the writing of their particular gospel. The one writer may have only been able to gather from one source that only 2 were there while another source had more details of others that may have been there as well. These issues have nothing to do with error or contradiction, so let's not all jump up to claim out private confusion contradictions contained within Scripture.

realmindz:
2nd Samuel 24: Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, "Go and take a census.....


1st Chronicles 21 : Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel...


Two accounts of the same story in the same bible, but one account said it was the Lord and another said it was Satan ....................................................................................

Please is the bible contradicting itself or was it a mistake from the writer? someone said Jehovah was satan...lol don't want to believe that.....

bible scholars, pls help
Muafrika2 KingEbukasBlog winner01 Joagbaje

Historical books of the Bible are not necessarily part of the books written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. They are just documented account of what transpired in God's dealing with the nation of Israel.

The men of Old had limited knowledge of God and of even the devil. In fact, most of the times, they attribute everything that happens as the act of God.

So, both narrators are writing their perspective of what they thought influenced David to number Israel.

The books that were written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and the prophetic books and you will never see any single error or contradictions in the prophecies given by all the Prophets.

There are of course under contents in the other books that were written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. For instance, Jacob prophecies concerning all his children were said under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

Emypresh:
■ In the first instance, it was commanded....."Go and take a census" that was God commanding David while in the second instance, David did it out of God's will.
■ The devil made him do it. Whose voice or command is David suppose to listen to? He shdnt hv listened to the devil. In the time of law u dnt do things out of ur will.....U wait until u are directed by God. The ark was falling and someone tried to help and God made him pay dearly for that......In our world today, dsame man wud hv been rewarded>
Don't get it twisted, our God is not an author of confusion

None of what you claim is factual. The one who gave the command was David and he did it against God's Will(God's Law) which is clear on how and when a census are to be taken in the land of Israel.

2. The devil did not make him do anything. David was well aware of what the Law said regarding these things. Even the ones He gave the command to knew well that that order was against God but they had to carry it out since it came from the King and all of Israel suffered as a result in the end.

realmindz:
■ Pick up ur bible and read those two chapters for better understanding of the question.
It was the same story but the first account said it was the Lord while the 2nd said it was satan...We are looking at a contradiction here

That is not what a contradiction is.

■ Take am easy dey lie, abeg. Mumuafrika, is Satan God's errand boy, arch enemy, gay lover?
What exactly is the nature of their relationship? I also have a few questions I'd like you to tackle.
■ Does God control Satan's destiny?
■ If God uses the Devil to perform his work, does that make the Devil good?

Satan actually works for God. Most people are so fixated on the idea of Satan being an enemy but they forget that this enemy was crested by God and works exactly as he was programmed by God to - Job 1 is an example of how God uses Satan.

2. What destiny? What has destiny to do with Satan or even this issue? Na your Babalawos dey talk destiny and fate and all that jargon.

3. It doesn't make Satan good rather it means what Satan does is not sin against God but what God has created Him for..

Medicis:
■ The Hebrew verb wayyaset, translated
“moved” (NKJV) or “incited (NASV), is identical
in both passages. God and Satan’s actions are
described using the same word. The difference
lies with the sense in which the word is used:
Satan incited (or tempted) Thessalonians
3:5) David more directly, while God is spoken of
as having incited David because He allowed such
temptation to take place. The Hebrews often
used active verbs to express “not the doing of
the thing, but the permission of the thing which
the agent is said to do” Throughout the Bible, God’s
allowance of something to take place often is
described by the sacred writers as having been
done by the Lord. Samuel says God incited David mainly because he ALLOWED it, and chronicles says Satan incited David mainly because he was directly involved ie he was the prime mover. They are both correct!

In Numbers 23, Balaam said, regarding Israel , that no omen or power can afflict the people of Israel;it is the God of Israel that blesses and curses His people. So long as He is God of Israel, even Satan cannot do anything without God's explicit permission. Both statements are in fact valid ---- not contradictions.

specimenC:
■ Going by your assertion, can we say that the bible isnt worthy to be called the word of God? Are you saying the bible is a story book with make up? Or its just overrated?

None of those who lived during the time of the writing of Scripture, until the end of the first century ever referred to Scripture as the Word of God. The one is instead referred to as the Word of God in Scripture is Jesus Christ, this is what is contained within the pages of the books of Scripture. However, ever since the end of the Last days of God's judgment against the Nation of Israel(and Judah) in the land of Canaan, the religion of Christianity, a religion removed from Jesus Christ's actual teachings and commandments has been desperately trying to take the title away from Jesus Christ and giving it instead to their particular collection of books of Scripture.