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Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by brojoshua: 2:33pm On Jun 14, 2016
The primary desire of the previous government is the looting of Nigeria's wealth, they came there for that main, primary and true purpose but in pretention that they are leaders and came to lead, they came there truly, mainly and primary for the purpose of looting and enriching themselves but with the outward pretention of being leaders and so nothing else will prosper under them except only corruption and all her children. And because most Nigerians too are corrupt so they don't know those people and their main target since corrupt people too hate truth but love liars and lying and believe in lies and in liars
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by chibaik(m): 3:00pm On Jun 14, 2016
Has the army under Buhari defeated them?
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by waziri4biz: 3:01pm On Jun 14, 2016
DaBullIT:
Clueless bloody civilian is not the same as a retired general

The difference is clear
what has ur rtd General achieved with the Boko haram/fulani herds men killings.
It's obvious you are an APC fanatic that's you can't see the truth
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by mirob(f): 3:08pm On Jun 14, 2016
Are we still talking about GEJ one year plus after he left office, yes he failed that was y Nigerians booted him out, so the focus is on this present regime, they should eradicate Boko haram completely, we don't want to hear anything about them again in Nigera.

Next!
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by DaBullIT(m): 3:16pm On Jun 14, 2016
I am guessing that's not your real face grin grin grin grin
Codes151:


Obama na general abi!? Nigerians with comments! Nigerian Army are a disgrace! Forget ethnical sentiments! Army were unpatriotic! Whatever sha! Who gives a Bleep?
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by Nobody: 3:33pm On Jun 14, 2016
NigerDeltan:
Why cant he just say "why we failed in our assignment"
he just said that in an adage.
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by DobleO7: 3:40pm On Jun 14, 2016
bugzy84:
The biggest mistakes GEJ made in changing his military top brass were replacing Admiral Ibrahim as CDS with ACM Badeh and appointing Lt Gen Minimah as COAS and decimating the Courses senior to Minimah.

However the Admiral forgets his allegiance to Nigeria is superior to his allegiance to his Commander in Chief.

How was the appointment of Badeh and Minimah a mistake? You carefully and deliberately didn't see the point he raised which is in bold as one of the reasons they failed which I believe is even the MAIN issue."the people you were trying to protect were thinking that soldiers out there on the streets of Maiduguri, were an army of occupation".
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by Mrjo(m): 3:41pm On Jun 14, 2016
What did he said? As i am seeing u wil soon decamp to apc
TonyeBarcanista:
see as this man de cast GEJ.
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by Nobody: 3:58pm On Jun 14, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
see as this man de cast GEJ.
How u him take cast GEJ??
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by hakanai(m): 4:17pm On Jun 14, 2016
TippyTop:


The above sums it up completely. During Jonathan’s administration northerners saw our military men as an occupation army rather than their liberators.

Its simple the brutality that comes with some NA staff that often times leave the victims scared as hell. Not to sound ungrateful they are trying. But honestly they need to do more on there attitude towards civilians. I think its rather harsh and makes the People mostly fear them,than love them. undecided undecided undecided They scare you into loving them cheesy cheesy cheesy
People later accepted there harsh approach after BH became even more deadlier. So its between NA or BH ? Pick the one that is not too brutal shocked shocked
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by shaqhead: 4:28pm On Jun 14, 2016
Destined2win:
The question now is, 'how can buhari defeat them because all the acclaimed successes are yet too yield tangible results.


Boko is still on rampage
U jst gave "rampage"a new meaning! If they are on rampage now then what were they then? Funny you! Can you remember the last time you had a bomb blast? Can u rmember when those terrorists made our soldiers run? Abegi you dnt have to comment if you dnt have anythin to say cos those in the know know better!
Rampage ni Fanpage ko!

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Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by AnanseK(m): 4:46pm On Jun 14, 2016
TippyTop:


The above sums it up completely. During Jonathan’s administration northerners saw our military men as an occupation army rather than their liberators.

And the army saw every civilian in the north east as enemy.
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by kuroben4real: 5:03pm On Jun 14, 2016
fromnigeria:
please who is Jonathan?
He is the man u and apc will dream to surpass, but each time u try it. u see error 404
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by malikisah: 5:41pm On Jun 14, 2016
what about simply saying they shared the money?
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by toyinid78: 8:44pm On Jun 14, 2016
Common sense is not common jonathan is. Not to blame if u av placed tinubu or any person dats not a former ruler in position u wud uinder stand espef his not from d north
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by CoolAmbience(m): 10:22pm On Jun 14, 2016
Omooba77:


one Emir said few days ago he will not return because the fight is only on pages of newspaper

Two or so have returned. Truth is, there have been significant achievements, atleast I visited the North in this quarter.
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by Horlufemi(m): 10:24pm On Jun 14, 2016
RedCapChief:
He's right that politics was responsible for the failure of the military to curb Boko Haram. Everything in Nigeria, even human life, is politics

When Ihejirika's boys went hard on Boko Haram, 'Northern Elders' wailed that the Army was strategically decimating the North. That was when we heard things like "An attack on Boko Haram is an attack on the North." These elders wailed and wailed, accusing Ihejirika of genocide because he was an Igbo man. They asked Jonathan to remove him, stop the military onslaught and allow them seek 'internal solution' to the menace.

Jonathan agreed and removed Ihejirika

Boko Haram metastasized and became hydra-headed, tearing apart the Borno, Yobe, Adamawa and even Cameroon. The same elders wailed that Jonathan had deserted them. They accused of supporting BH so that elections would not hold in the North. They spread word that he was "clueless."

Jonathan's state of emergency was so weak. I have never seen a military state of emergency where the elected government was allowed to continue - yet Jonathan allowed Shettima, Geidam and co to continue, just to placate them.

Then Chibok girls happened . . . and Jonathan was certified to be clueless by the people he thought were allies



The people who spread this rhetoric are those who would sacrifice their own people for political power.



A lot of innocent northerners died in the army. I watched a video of soldiers killing northerners. no one even knows if they are innocent or not.

I was sad. very sad
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by ebukaOtika(m): 1:48am On Jun 15, 2016
Mtcheeeeew As if they've Defeated them ..... Awon Oloshi
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by billyG(m): 6:37am On Jun 15, 2016
DaudaAbu:
Former Chief of Defence Staff (CDS) Admiral Ola Sa’ad Ibrahim (Rtd) has blamed politics for failure of the military to defeat Boko Haram under the leadership of former President Goodluck Jonathan.
Ibrahim on Monday in Abuja told journalists during a lecture he delivered at the National Defence College (NDC) on Military Leadership and National Security, that “In our time, there were so many distractions.”

The CDS served from October 2012 to January 16, 2014, and also as Chief of Naval Staff (CNS) from 2010 to 2012.

Ibrahim added that: “Up to the time the Commander in Chief then declared a State of Emergency, you will hear: ‘we are negotiating here and there, please slow down,’ north eastern elders were worried.

“Can you imagine fighting a war and the people you were trying to protect were thinking that soldiers out there on the streets of Maiduguri, were an army of occupation, which brought a lot of political dimension to the issues.

“And when political dimension, combined with several other policy choices, the result was what we saw, when the state of emergency was declared, I thought there was a little celebration, because the political dimension was like giving you a job and tying your hand behind your back.

“Besides the resources to take on such challenges were neither here nor there, to the level one would have expected, we were not prepared for the nature of the insurgency, even our procurement processes were tailored towards or heavier on conventional warfare.”


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I vehemently Disgree it is Corruption not politics!
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by ocelot2006(m): 7:20am On Jun 15, 2016
DaudaAbu:


Or buying refurbished alpha jets without rotor

Or refusing to pay soldiers their feeding allowance

Buying refurbished alpha jets without rotor?? .....you do know that the alpha jet is a FIXED WING aircraft and not a helicopter, right? Also the alpha jets bought were ATTRITION REPLACEMENTS. But hey, I guess you didnt know that...cos alpha jets use rotors in your world undecided
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by devvland(m): 11:39am On Jun 15, 2016
ocelot2006:


Buying refurbished alpha jets without rotor?? .....you do know that the alpha jet is a FIXED WING aircraft and not a helicopter, right? Also the alpha jets bought were ATTRITION REPLACEMENTS. But hey, I guess you didnt know that...cos alpha jets use rotors in your world undecided

K.O
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by babajero(m): 6:46pm On Jun 17, 2016
Destined2win:
The question now is, 'how can buhari defeat them because all the acclaimed successes are yet too yield tangible results.


Boko is still on rampage
buhari didn't fight any boko haram, why is it that when GEJ was still on seat bh fought with machine guns, rpgs, tanks, grenades and other sophisticated weapons, but since buhari came all the bh they claimed they killed are either with locally made barrel or pistol, so where did all the weapons go to, and another question is where is "shekau", they just used him to get to power then settle him.
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by bugzy84: 8:32pm On Jun 21, 2016
DobleO7:


How was the appointment of Badeh and Minimah a mistake? You carefully and deliberately didn't see the point he raised which is in bold as one of the reasons they failed which I believe is even the MAIN issue."the people you were trying to protect were thinking that soldiers out there on the streets of Maiduguri, were an army of occupation".

I have insider information regarding Badeh's disastrous tenure as CDS. This insider information along with my analysis of local and international news are what inform my observation about Badeh being the wrong person to replace Admiral Ibrahim.

Many retired senior officers including one who was a service chief in President Shagari's government are unhappy with the performance of the last batch of service chiefs appointed by President Jonathan.

My father reported to the late Lt Gen Gibson Jalo (RIP) at Defence HQ during the 2nd Republic; he and many of his colleagues (including the service chief mentioned above) refer to late Gen Jalo as "a textbook general and chief of the defence staff".These retired officers regard Badeh Minimah and Amosun as embarrassing to their profession.

At an event marking his retirement Badeh claimed he led a poorly motivated armed forces. I'd imagine one of the objectives of an effective CDS is to provide able leadership and motivation to the services he heads.

It is telling President Buhari didn't find Minimah (or any of his fellow chiefs) who could have succeeded Badeh worthy of retention and removed all of them and appointed a CDS who got a double promotion.
Re: Why Military Under Jonathan Failed To Defeat Boko Haram – Former CDS by naijaking1: 8:42pm On Jun 21, 2016
RedCapChief:
He's right that politics was responsible for the failure of the military to curb Boko Haram. Everything in Nigeria, even human life, is politics

When Ihejirika's boys went hard on Boko Haram, 'Northern Elders' wailed that the Army was strategically decimating the North. That was when we heard things like "An attack on Boko Haram is an attack on the North." These elders wailed and wailed, accusing Ihejirika of genocide because he was an Igbo man. They asked Jonathan to remove him, stop the military onslaught and allow them seek 'internal solution' to the menace.

Jonathan agreed and removed Ihejirika

Boko Haram metastasized and became hydra-headed, tearing apart the Borno, Yobe, Adamawa and even Cameroon. The same elders wailed that Jonathan had deserted them. They accused of supporting BH so that elections would not hold in the North. They spread word that he was "clueless."

Jonathan's state of emergency was so weak. I have never seen a military state of emergency where the elected government was allowed to continue - yet Jonathan allowed Shettima, Geidam and co to continue, just to placate them.

Then Chibok girls happened . . . and Jonathan was certified to be clueless by the people he thought were allies



The people who spread this rhetoric are those who would sacrifice their own people for political power.

They are here on NL still selling their wares to the highest bidder

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