Religion is a cultural system of behaviors and practices, world views, sacred texts, holy places, ethics, and societal organisation that relate humanity to what an anthropologist has called "an order of existence". Different religions may or may not contain various elements, ranging from the "divine", "sacred things", "faith", a "supernatural being or supernatural beings" or "...some sort of ultimacy and transcendence that will provide norms and power for the rest of life.

Nigeria is now the most religious nation on earth. The richest pastor is also here, in spite of the fact that over 110 million Nigerians live on less than N300 par day.

I don’t need to mention how crazy we are, when it comes to religion, both Muslims and Christians.

Religious people in Nigeria are ready to do anything because of money.

We do things that God doesn’t like, simply because we want to augment our income, like tolerating exam malpractices. The so-called Unions collect monies they don’t work for, sometimes by force, and you’ll see them fasting, performing Hajj, and praying.

Pastors, bishops, imams, sheiks, etc., fall extremely short when measured by human standards (not to mention God’s standards), and yet they think God called them. They think they’ve his backing.

We use fake results, fake certificates, fake age, etc. We bastardize things. Nations who aren’t deeply religious anymore are even more righteous than us. I believe coming generations would be disillusioned with religion, and adopt the Western mindset.

The issue is: We’re also among the most corrupt nations in the world. Majority of us are deceptive, ungrateful, wicked, traitors, dishonest, callous, promiscuous, greedy, etc. Everything religious persons must not do are what we do, yet we go to church on Sundays, we go to mosques on Fridays.

Why are we so wicked and sinful in Nigeria in spite of our deep religiosity? We pray and pray, and contribute money for religion, but poverty increases? Is that of any use?


Neteller here: www..com.ng

Na frustration cause am

Because religion is not morality.

Being Religious has nothing to do with being disciplined.

Because we lack understanding.

oo

Guy Nigerians go to church everyday......


Even have monday vigil in my area.
God will never answer many people prayer.

When you feed a person, you reduce their propensity for violence.

Aside religion, Nigerians are driven by the jungle rules. The very instinct of survival that differentiates us from animal.

Our practice of religious is purely hypocritical and selfish.

Now ask why a hungry man won't go violent. He is an animal

SeverusSnape:
Because religion is not morality.

Can you prove it ?

@OP

Many nigerian go to church without understanding the purpose of it. 80 percent of Nigerians go to church healing nd Miracu

Nigerians are all pharesees d kind christ preached against in d bible... their heart is far away frm him but they are close yo him only on Sunday

BizLifeE:
Religion is a cultural system of behaviors and practices, world views, sacred texts, holy places, ethics, and societal organisation that relate humanity to what an anthropologist has called "an order of existence". Different religions may or may not contain various elements, ranging from the "divine", "sacred things", "faith", a "supernatural being or supernatural beings" or "...some sort of ultimacy and transcendence that will provide norms and power for the rest of life.

Nigeria is now the most religious nation on earth. The richest pastor is also here, in spite of the fact that over 110 million Nigerians live on less than N300 par day.

I don’t need to mention how crazy we are, when it comes to religion, both Muslims and Christians.

Religious people in Nigeria are ready to do anything because of money.

We do things that God doesn’t like, simply because we want to augment our income, like tolerating exam malpractices. The so-called Unions collect monies they don’t work for, sometimes by force, and you’ll see them fasting, performing Hajj, and praying.

Pastors, bishops, imams, sheiks, etc., fall extremely short when measured by human standards (not to mention God’s standards), and yet they think God called them. They think they’ve his backing.

We use fake results, fake certificates, fake age, etc. We bastardize things. Nations who aren’t deeply religious anymore are even more righteous than us. I believe coming generations would be disillusioned with religion, and adopt the Western mindset.

The issue is: We’re also among the most corrupt nations in the world. Majority of us are deceptive, ungrateful, wicked, traitors, dishonest, callous, promiscuous, greedy, etc. Everything religious persons must not do are what we do, yet we go to church on Sundays, we go to mosques on Fridays.

Why are we so wicked and sinful in Nigeria in spite of our deep religiosity? We pray and pray, and contribute money for religion, but poverty increases? Is that of any use?


Neteller here: www..com.ng

This is simple . Nigerians are ostensibly religious people .

There are other deeply religious countries that have better standards of living . The first two countries with the lowest poverty rates - Taiwan and Malaysia - in the world are deeply religious . In fact they are submerged in the ocean of diverse religions .

There are three main problems in Nigeria I think need to be tackled:

1. High illiteracy rate : Education counteracts ignorance . Being educated provides opportunities to set goals , give a purpose of living , pursuit of success , be creative , innovative etc . The bible clearly says that people perish for lack of knowledge - this is evident in Nigeria . You cant have the illiterates preponderant and expect to develop or grow as a nation . We need to tackle the illiteracy level in Nigeria by building more schools , making education free or easily affordable , focus also on providing adult education - you know to carry everyone along .

2. High unemployment rate : The idle man is the devil's workshop - if there are good jobs out there , people won't capitulate to the temptation of crime or vices . Their minds would be preoccupied with being useful in their area of service . The terrorism/militancy will be abated if there are jobs for these guys to do .

The minimum wage should also increase to provide a better means of survival in the country .

3. Leadership problems :

a. Nigerians make very poor choices of leaders .

b. Ethnicity and religion still play active roles in electing our leaders /influence our electoral behaviour .

c. Nigerians with better leadership qualities are not encouraged to contest for positions so that they'd extricate the country from the difficult problems she is facing . We need to develop a system that would galvanize the right people into joining politics and flush the bad eggs out - the anti-graft agencies are doing a good job on that though .

d. Our leaders peculate funds , are avaricious , are corrupt and do not channel the required efforts into seeing that we develop as a nation . We have a president who gallivants with no economically viable plan for his travels . He vacillates , makes poor choices and Nigerians are the victims !

The precis of this yarn is to exclude religion as the problem of Nigeria and tackle the real monsters . People abjuring their beliefs will yield no result - its otiose . If everyone in Nigeria becomes an atheist will the problems magically go away ? In fact , the problems - crime rate , sexual violence , corruption , vices - will become intractable because religious beliefs restrain people from doing those and suppress any morally depraved tendencies .

Being religious is not synonymous to being moral, morality is about "actions" not about beliefs.

It's a human institute birthed by societal expectations and should be fueled by Love, compassion, pity, sympathy, family, concern for others other than selfish religious reasons.

Religions idea of morality is basically a form of coercion, employment of a threat and reward system, if you are good because you want to make heaven, it's not goodness in essence since your intent is for the reward and not because you care - that is selfishness.

If you are good because you fear and want to avoid hell, still not goodness since the reason why you are doing it is because you just want to save your own skin and avoid punishment - that is selfishness not goodness.

be good for goodness sake, it makes the world less an assshole.

it is hardly goodness if human ethics are roped around such greedy coercive religious concepts - though i agree some humans needs to be on a leash to be ethical.

But if we humans cannot find reasons to be good to others [like Love, compassion, concern] but need to be coerced and threatened by hell and heaven into being good then humanity is a sorry lot indeed.

Morality is neither muslim, Christian or Hindu, Morality is human. it belongs to no ism and neither is it dependent on any book, creed or supernatural for foundation, it has a human foundation.

BizLifeE:
Religion is a cultural system of behaviors and practices, world views, sacred texts, holy places, ethics, and societal organisation that relate humanity to what an anthropologist has called "an order of existence". Different religions may or may not contain various elements, ranging from the "divine", "sacred things", "faith", a "supernatural being or supernatural beings" or "...some sort of ultimacy and transcendence that will provide norms and power for the rest of life.

Nigeria is now the most religious nation on earth. The richest pastor is also here, in spite of the fact that over 110 million Nigerians live on less than N300 par day.

I don’t need to mention how crazy we are, when it comes to religion, both Muslims and Christians.

Religious people in Nigeria are ready to do anything because of money.

We do things that God doesn’t like, simply because we want to augment our income, like tolerating exam malpractices. The so-called Unions collect monies they don’t work for, sometimes by force, and you’ll see them fasting, performing Hajj, and praying.

Pastors, bishops, imams, sheiks, etc., fall extremely short when measured by human standards (not to mention God’s standards), and yet they think God called them. They think they’ve his backing.

We use fake results, fake certificates, fake age, etc. We bastardize things. Nations who aren’t deeply religious anymore are even more righteous than us. I believe coming generations would be disillusioned with religion, and adopt the Western mindset.

The issue is: We’re also among the most corrupt nations in the world. Majority of us are deceptive, ungrateful, wicked, traitors, dishonest, callous, promiscuous, greedy, etc. Everything religious persons must not do are what we do, yet we go to church on Sundays, we go to mosques on Fridays.

Why are we so wicked and sinful in Nigeria in spite of our deep religiosity? We pray and pray, and contribute money for religion, but poverty increases? Is that of any use?


Neteller here: www..com.ng

I keep saying it (Jehovah/Allah) which they worship in our country is the Satan everyone have been talking about. Anywhere where Satan is reigning, trouble is always there. Go and check how many people died in a stampede in Saudi Arabia and how Israel the country of Jehovah(Satan) is always in a state of unrest. The ministers of Satan like Muafrika2 and Goddys and Mrzenographer an Petelsiekongni are ready to curse anytime you are not following their jehovristic/satanistic ideas. Funny enough, their curses cannot pull a string of guitar, let alone cut a mould of eba from the plate of eba.

I AM OTEM, THE REVEALER OF REVERAD, THE FATHER OF JEHOVAH.

KingEbukaNaija:


This is simple . Nigerians are ostensibly religious people .

There are other deeply religious countries that have better standards of living . The first two countries with the lowest poverty rates - Taiwan and Malaysia - in the world are deeply religious . In fact they are submerged in the ocean of diverse religions .

There are three main problems in Nigeria I think need to be tackled:

1. High illiteracy rate : Education counteracts ignorance . Being educated provides opportunities to set goals , give a purpose of living , pursuit of success , be creative , innovative etc . The bible clearly says that people perish for lack of knowledge - this is evident in Nigeria . You cant have the illiterates preponderant and expect to develop or grow as a nation . We need to tackle the illiteracy level in Nigeria by building more schools , making education free or easily affordable , focus also on providing adult education - you know to carry everyone along .

2. High unemployment rate : The idle man is the devil's workshop - if there are good jobs out there , people won't capitulate to the temptation of crime or vices . Their minds would be preoccupied with being useful in their area of service . The terrorism/militancy will be abated if there are jobs for these guys to do .

The minimum wage should also increase to provide a better means of survival in the country .

3. Leadership problems :

a. Nigerians make very poor choices of leaders .

b. Ethnicity and religion still play active roles in electing our leaders /influence our electoral behaviour .

c. Nigerians with better leadership qualities are not encouraged to contest for positions so that they'd extricate the country from the difficult problems she is facing . We need to develop a system that would galvanize the right people into joining politics and flush the bad eggs out - the anti-graft agencies are doing a good job on that though .

d. Our leaders peculate funds , are avaricious , are corrupt and do not channel the required efforts into seeing that we develop as a nation . We have a president who gallivants with no economically viable plan for his travels . He vacillates , makes poor choices and Nigerians are the victims !

The precis of this yarn is to exclude religion as the problem of Nigeria and tackle the real monsters . People abjuring their beliefs will yield no result - its otiose . If everyone in Nigeria becomes an atheist will the problems magically go away ? In fact , the problems - crime rate , sexual violence , corruption , vices - will become intractable because religious beliefs restrain people from doing those and suppress any morally depraved tendencies .

At the bolded, they have less Christians in both countries. They are more dominated by a less-violent religion, hence a less-violent god like Buddha and Vishnu. Anyway, the father of all these gods is here. DOMINO REVERAD, who doesn't want you to be in bondage to any of these gods as you are currently to jehovah but instead, wants you and all your likes to set yourself free and use your brain to achieve great and unimaginable things.

We simply don't know what we are doing. "Father forgive them for they don't know what they are doing".

KingEbukaNaija:

People abjuring their beliefs will yield no result - its otiose . If everyone in Nigeria becomes an atheist will the problems magically go away ? In fact , the problems - crime rate , sexual violence , corruption , vices - will become intractable because religious beliefs restrain people from doing those and suppress any morally depraved
tendencies .

A simple google search for Nigeria, or scrolling through the comments on frontpage would show otherwise.

Most comments in support of gay lynching, tribalism etc on frontpage are made by professed Christians and Muslims. Most of our politicians are Christians and Muslims... whether you disagree about their faith is inconsequential as religion is personal. Your Christianity might not be someone else's Christianity.

One Christian believes that witches should be killed, the other believes love is the answer - The Bible supports both positions.

One believes homosexuals deserver the death sentence/jungle justice. Another believes love is the answer - The Bible supports both positions.

One Christian believes things are getting worse because the Bible prophesied it(confusion), another believes things can get better if we repent of our sins and go to God - The Bible supports both positions.

If anything, Nigeria proves you can have so much religion and little moral restraint. You can't feed your kids with Old Testament prayer points and expect them to live like New Testament Christians.

This thread had nothing to do with atheism, you just had to shade atheism. Fear God o.

sonOfLucifer:

Most comments in support of gay lynching, tribalism etc on frontpage are made by professed Christians and Muslims.

There will always be religious fanatics and ignorant ones but they are the minority . In my church , the pastors implore homosexuals to turn to Christ during sermons . People testify from being delivered from their homosexual predilections and there has never been any reported recrudescence of the urge .

Below are atheist who wish death for Christians though - such malevolence !

otemanuduno:
At the bolded, they have less Christians in both countries.

According to a study from 2015, Christians hold the largest amount of wealth (55% of the total world wealth), followed by Muslims (5.8%), Hindus (3.3%) and Jewish (1.1%). According to the same study it was found that adherents under the classification Irreligion or other religions hold about 34.8% of the total global wealth .

The irreligious comprise of the deists(God-believers ) , agnostics , atheists , people who have no religion but believe in God in case you don't know .

Now , the modicum atheists who hold some percentage of the total global wealth were once religious people - fact !

Ouch !

First, I just turned your own curse around. So stop sulking.

otemanuduno:


I keep saying it (Jehovah/Allah) which they worship in our country is the Satan everyone have been talking about. Anywhere where Satan is reigning, trouble is always there. Go and check how many people died in a stampede in Saudi Arabia and how Israel the country of Jehovah(Satan) is always in a state of unrest. The ministers of Satan like Muafrika2 and Goddys and Mrzenographer an Petelsiekongni are ready to curse anytime you are not following their jehovristic/satanistic ideas. Funny enough, their curses cannot pull a string of guitar, let alone cut a mould of eba from the plate of eba.

I AM OTEM, THE REVEALER OF REVERAD, THE FATHER OF JEHOVAH.

sonOfLucifer:


One Christian believes that witches should be killed, the other believes love is the answer - The Bible supports both positions.

You need a lecture on "Judaism and Christianity" and "dispensations" . Killing of witches is obtainable in Judaism and those were incorporated into the bible because Christianity may be described as a subset of Judaism

sonOfLucifer:

One Christian believes things are getting worse because the Bible prophesied it(confusion), another believes things can get better if we repent of our sins and go to God - The Bible supports both positions.

Things are getting worse for the world but the Christians and people who run to Christ will be impervious to the adversities while the atheists and their crew will simply be inured to the unpleasantness of the situation .

Come on bro . Your post is just a knee-jerk response .

Muafrika2:
First, I just turned your own curse around. So stop sulking.

Liar. I didn't mention you in any curse, rather I swore about myself when you lied against me that I am a devil. Then I gave you the opportunity to do so to yourself, instead you cursed my generation to come as jehovah your god usually do to unborn generations.
You and your god Jehovah are silly together. If indeed your god created the whole universe and he is the maker of children, he won't curse a living soul which he made and even let the curse affect those he is yet to make. That is the mumuistic behaviour of your god which made the intelligent people classify him as a genocidal god.

Go and learn sense from EARTUM the noiseless god.

sonOfLucifer:

If anything, Nigeria proves you can have so much religion and little moral restraint. You can't feed your kids with Old Testament prayer points and expect them to live like New Testament Christians.

My second statement in the post is that Nigerians are ostensibly religious people . Not that I'm sanctimonious or sententious but if everyone should live like me , morally , the world will be a better place

This thread had nothing to do with atheism, you just had to shade atheism. Fear God o.

This thread implicitly suggested atheism as a panacea to Nigeria's problems

KingEbukaNaija:


This is simple . Nigerians are ostensibly religious people .

There are other deeply religious countries that have better standards of living . The first two countries with the lowest poverty rates - Taiwan and Malaysia - in the world are deeply religious . In fact they are submerged in the ocean of diverse religions .

There are three main problems in Nigeria I think need to be tackled:

1. High illiteracy rate : Education counteracts ignorance . Being educated provides opportunities to set goals , give a purpose of living , pursuit of success , be creative , innovative etc . The bible clearly says that people perish for lack of knowledge - this is evident in Nigeria . You cant have the illiterates preponderant and expect to develop or grow as a nation . We need to tackle the illiteracy level in Nigeria by building more schools , making education free or easily affordable , focus also on providing adult education - you know to carry everyone along .

2. High unemployment rate : The idle man is the devil's workshop - if there are good jobs out there , people won't capitulate to the temptation of crime or vices . Their minds would be preoccupied with being useful in their area of service . The terrorism/militancy will be abated if there are jobs for these guys to do .

The minimum wage should also increase to provide a better means of survival in the country .

3. Leadership problems :

a. Nigerians make very poor choices of leaders .

b. Ethnicity and religion still play active roles in electing our leaders /influence our electoral behaviour .

c. Nigerians with better leadership qualities are not encouraged to contest for positions so that they'd extricate the country from the difficult problems she is facing . We need to develop a system that would galvanize the right people into joining politics and flush the bad eggs out - the anti-graft agencies are doing a good job on that though .

d. Our leaders peculate funds , are avaricious , are corrupt and do not channel the required efforts into seeing that we develop as a nation . We have a president who gallivants with no economically viable plan for his travels . He vacillates , makes poor choices and Nigerians are the victims !

The precis of this yarn is to exclude religion as the problem of Nigeria and tackle the real monsters . People abjuring their beliefs will yield no result - its otiose . If everyone in Nigeria becomes an atheist will the problems magically go away ? In fact , the problems - crime rate , sexual violence , corruption , vices - will become intractable because religious beliefs restrain people from doing those and suppress any morally depraved tendencies .

high population and over reliance on foreign goods are also among

johnydon22:
Being religious is not synonymous to being moral, morality is about "actions" not about beliefs.

It's a human institute birthed by societal expectations and should be fueled by Love, compassion, pity, sympathy, family, concern for others other than selfish religious reasons.

Religions idea of morality is basically a form of coercion, employment of a threat and reward system, if you are good because you want to make heaven, it's not goodness in essence since your intent is for the reward and not because you care - that is selfishness.

If you are good because you fear and want to avoid hell, still not goodness since the reason why you are doing it is because you just want to save your own skin and avoid punishment - that is selfishness not goodness.

be good for goodness sake, it makes the world less an assshole.

it is hardly goodness if human ethics are roped around such greedy coercive religious concepts - though i agree some humans needs to be on a leash to be ethical.

But if we humans cannot find reasons to be good to others [like Love, compassion, concern] but need to be coerced and threatened by hell and heaven into being good then humanity is a sorry lot indeed.

Morality is neither muslim, Christian or Hindu, Morality is human. it belongs to no ism and neither is it dependent on any book, creed or supernatural for foundation, it has a human foundation.

" Give and ye shall receive " - this is a universal law . This is how humanity works . It does not imply that people have to give just for the guerdons of giving .

Here are verses that buttress this refutation .

2 Corinthians 9 : 7

7 Each one should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not out of regret or compulsion. For God loves a cheerful giver.

Deuteronomy 15 : 10

10"You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the LORD your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings.

The above verses can be construed in this way : Give not expecting something in return , but from the depth of your heart and out of generosity .

We are expected to love one another , show compassion etc because we are trying to attain perfection like God not because we are expecting something in return .

Luke 6:35

But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.

Brother John , dispel every misconceptions you have man and the false interpretations too .

Morality is a human foundation built by God !

oyewolestephen:
high population and over reliance on foreign goods are also among

A good leader will know how to tackle those problems . High literacy level will not make us amenable to the deception of greedy leaders , it will also improve the quality of choices of leaders we make .We will also realise that ethnicity and religion should not play any role or influence our choices of leaders

Religion has no monopoly over issues of morality..

KingEbukaNaija:

But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. [size=20pt]Then your reward will be great[/size], and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.

LOL.

sonOfLucifer:

A simple google search for Nigeria, or scrolling through the comments on frontpage would show otherwise.

Most comments in support of gay lynching, tribalism etc on frontpage are made by professed Christians and Muslims. Most of our politicians are Christians and Muslims... whether you disagree about their faith is inconsequential as religion is personal. Your Christianity might not be someone else's Christianity.

One Christian believes that witches should be killed, the other believes love is the answer - The Bible supports both positions.

One believes homosexuals deserver the death sentence/jungle justice. Another believes love is the answer - The Bible supports both positions.

One Christian believes things are getting worse because the Bible prophesied it(confusion), another believes things can get better if we repent of our sins and go to God - The Bible supports both positions.

If anything, Nigeria proves you can have so much religion and little moral restraint. You can't feed your kids with Old Testament prayer points and expect them to live like New Testament Christians.

This thread had nothing to do with atheism, you just had to shade atheism. Fear God o.

EXACTLY!... You'll find Biblical verses that have been collected on the excellent website - www.evilbible.com - by Chris Thiefe. This site provides an entertaining and revealing article called Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian. The list will be amusingly familiar to anyone who has ever had the misfortune to listen to the drivel of evangelical Christians.

The list needs no improvement. It sums up the situation perfectly.

Abrahamists are people who look for reasons that support what they already believe. They never look for reasons that refute what they believe. If they come across any such reasons, they ignore them, go into denial or turn to some radically implausible and irrational counterargument. In absolute desperation they will resort to "God works in mysterious ways" or "Well, I believe and that's the end of it."

Evilbible.com provides a detailed analysis of the enormous number of blatant contradictions and absurd declarations made in the Bible.

Any proposition at all can be supported by the Bible since it provides nourishment for all positions. It supports both the masters and the slaves. It condemns both the masters and the slaves. Masters can justify tyranny and slavery with the Bible. Slaves can justify revolt and regicide with the Bible. Capitalists can justify extreme greed with the Bible. Communists can say it supports the removal of wealth from the rich.

The Bible is the supreme protean book, which is the central reason it has survived so long. It is the Book of many colours. It is all things to all men. You can project onto it any opinion you like.

The most horrifying thing is that no matter how much the Abrahamic holy texts are refuted, the Abrahamists couldn't care less. The brainwashing they've endured is so extreme that literally nothing could de-program them other than full-scale psychological and psychiatric intervention.

Na poverty cause am. Especially poverty of the mind.