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| Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 9:38pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
[size=15pt]For 2,000 years, Jews have rejected the Christian idea of Jesus as messiah. Why? Do Christian Believe The Jews Will Go To Hell Cause Of This?? It is important to understand why Jews don’t believe in Jesus. The purpose is not to disparage other religions, but rather to clarify the Jewish position. The more data that’s available, the better-informed choices people can make about their spiritual path.[/size]
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| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 9:42pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
What exactly is the Messiah? The word “Messiah” is an English rendering of the Hebrew word “Mashiach”, which means “Anointed.” It usually refers to a person initiated into God’s service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, I Kings 1:39, II Kings 9:3) Since every King and High Priest was anointed with oil, each may be referred to as “an anointed one” (a Mashiach or a Messiah). For example: “God forbid that I [David] should stretch out my hand against the Lord’s Messiah [Saul]...” (I Samuel 26:11. Cf. II Samuel 23:1, Isaiah 45:1, Psalms 20:6) Where does the Jewish concept of Messiah come from? One of the central themes of Biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Isaiah 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34) Many of these prophetic passages speak of a descendant of King David who will rule Israel during the age of perfection. (Isaiah 11:1-9; Jeremiah 23:5-6, 30:7-10, 33:14-16; Ezekiel 34:11-31, 37:21-28; Hosea 3:4-5) Since every King is a Messiah, by convention, we refer to this future anointed king as The Messiah. The above is the only description in the Bible of a Davidic descendant who is to come in the future. We will recognize the Messiah by seeing who the King of Israel is at the time of complete universal perfection. |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 9:48pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
JESUS DID NOT FULFILL THE MESSIANIC PROPHECIES What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he will: A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28). B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6). C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4) D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world—on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9). The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic prophecies. Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming, but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright, and no concept of a second coming exists. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 9:54pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
JESUS DID NOT EMBODY THE PERSONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF MESSIAH A. MESSIAH AS PROPHET Jesus was not a prophet. Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the land is inhabited by a majority of world Jewry. During the time of Ezra (circa 300 BCE), when the majority of Jews refused to move from Babylon to Israel, prophecy ended upon the death of the last prophets—Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi. Jesus appeared on the scene approximately 350 years after prophecy had ended. B. DESCENDENT OF DAVID According to Jewish sources, the Messiah will be born of human parents and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, (1) nor will he possess supernatural qualities. The Messiah must be descended on his father’s side from King David (see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). According to the Christian claim that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father—and thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement of being descended on his father’s side from King David! C. TORAH OBSERVANCE The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The Torah states that all mitzvot (commandments) remain binding forever, and anyone coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4) Throughout the New Testament, Jesus contradicts the Torah and states that its commandments are no longer applicable. (see John 1:45 and 9:16, Acts 3:22 and 7:37) For example, John 9:14 records that Jesus made a paste in violation of Shabbat, which caused the Pharisees to say (verse 16), "He does not observe Shabbat!" |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by TI1919(m): 9:55pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
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| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 9:58pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
MISTRANSLATED VERSES "REFERRING" TO JESUS Biblical verses can only be understood by studying the original Hebrew text—which reveals many discrepancies in the Christian translation. A. VIRGIN BIRTH The Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from the verse in Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries later and translated it as "virgin." This accords Jesus’ birth with the first century pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by gods. B. CRUCIFIXION The verse in Psalms 22:17 reads: "Like a lion, they are at my hands and feet." The Hebrew word ki-ari (like a lion) is grammatically similar to the word "gouged." Thus Christianity reads the verse as a reference to crucifixion: "They pierced my hands and feet." C. SUFFERING SERVANT Christianity claims that Isaiah chapter 53 refers to Jesus, as the "suffering servant." In actuality, Isaiah 53 directly follows the theme of chapter 52, describing the exile and redemption of the Jewish people. The prophecies are written in the singular form because the Jews ("Israel"  are regarded as one unit. The Torah is filled with examples of the Jewish nation referred to with a singular pronoun.Ironically, Isaiah’s prophecies of persecution refer in part to the 11th century when Jews were tortured and killed by Crusaders who acted in the name of Jesus. From where did these mistranslations stem? St. Gregory, 4th century Bishop of Nazianzus, wrote: "A little jargon is all that is necessary to impose on the people. The less they comprehend, the more they admire." For further reading on the "suffering servant" |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 10:01pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
JEWISH BELIEF IS BASED SOLELY ON NATIONAL REVELATION Of the 15,000 religions in human history, only Judaism bases its belief on national revelation—i.e. God speaking to the entire nation. If God is going to start a religion, it makes sense He’ll tell everyone, not just one person. Throughout history, thousands of religions have been started by individuals, attempting to convince people that he or she is God’s true prophet. But personal revelation is an extremely weak basis for a religion because one can never know if it is indeed true. Since others did not hear God speak to this person, they have to take his word for it. Even if the individual claiming personal revelation performs miracles, there is still no verification that he is a genuine prophet. Miracles do not prove anything. All they show—assuming they are genuine—is that he has certain powers. It has nothing to do with his claim of prophecy. Judaism, unique among all of the world’s major religions, does not rely on "claims of miracles" as the basis for its religion. In fact, the Bible says that God sometimes grants the power of "miracles" to charlatans, in order to test Jewish loyalty to the Torah (Deut. 13:4). Maimonides states (Foundations of Torah, ch.  :The Jews did not believe in Moses, our teacher, because of the miracles he performed. Whenever anyone’s belief is based on seeing miracles, he has lingering doubts, because it is possible the miracles were performed through magic or sorcery. All of the miracles performed by Moses in the desert were because they were necessary, and not as proof of his prophecy. What then was the basis of [Jewish] belief? The Revelation at Mount Sinai, which we saw with our own eyes and heard with our own ears, not dependent on the testimony of others… as it says, "Face to face, God spoke with you…" The Torah also states: "God did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us—who are all here alive today." (Deut. 5:3) Judaism is not miracles. It is the personal eyewitness experience of every man, woman and child, standing at Mount Sinai 3,300 years ago. |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Amberon11: 10:02pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
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| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 10:06pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
CHRISTIANITY CONTRADICTS JEWISH THEOLOGY The following theological points apply primarily to the Roman Catholic Church, the largest Christian denomination. A. GOD AS THREE? The Catholic idea of Trinity breaks God into three separate beings: The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (Matthew 28:19). Contrast this to the Shema, the basis of Jewish belief: "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is ONE" (Deut. 6:4). Jews declare the Shema every day, while writing it on doorposts (Mezuzah), and binding it to the hand and head (Tefillin). This statement of God’s One-ness is the first words a Jewish child is taught to say, and the last words uttered before a Jew dies. In Jewish law, worship of a three-part god is considered idolatry—one of the three cardinal sins that a Jew should rather give up his life than transgress. This explains why during the Inquisitions and throughout history, Jews gave up their lives rather than convert. B. MAN AS GOD? Roman Catholics believe that God came down to earth in human form, as Jesus said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30). Maimonides devotes most of the "Guide for the Perplexed" to the fundamental idea that God is incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no physical form. God is Eternal, above time. He is Infinite, beyond space. He cannot be born, and cannot die. Saying that God assumes human form makes God small, diminishing both His unity and His divinity. As the Torah says: "God is not a mortal" (Numbers 23:19). Judaism says that the Messiah will be born of human parents, and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, and will not possess supernatural qualities. In fact, an individual is alive in every generation with the capacity to step into the role of the Messiah. (see Maimonides - Laws of Kings 11:3) C. INTERMEDIARY FOR PRAYER? The Catholic belief is that prayer must be directed through an intermediary—i.e. confessing one’s sins to a priest. Jesus himself is an intermediary, as Jesus said: "No man cometh unto the Father but by me." In Judaism, prayer is a totally private matter, between each individual and God. As the Bible says: "God is near to all who call unto Him" (Psalms 145:18). Further, the Ten Commandments state: "You shall have no other gods BEFORE ME," meaning that it is forbidden to set up a mediator between God and man. (see Maimonides - Laws of Idolatry ch. 1) D. INVOLVEMENT IN THE PHYSICAL WORLD Catholic doctrine often treats the physical world as an evil to be avoided. Mary, the holiest woman, is portrayed as a virgin. Priests and nuns are celibate. And monasteries are in remote, secluded locations. By contrast, Judaism believes that God created the physical world not to frustrate us, but for our pleasure. Jewish spirituality comes through grappling with the mundane world in a way that uplifts and elevates. Sex in the proper context is one of the holiest acts we can perform. The Talmud says if a person has the opportunity to taste a new fruit and refuses to do so, he will have to account for that in the World to Come. Jewish rabbinical schools teach how to live amidst the bustle of commercial activity. Jews don’t retreat from life, we elevate it. |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 10:08pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
[size=19pt]Christianity A Religion Built On Lies And Also Propagated On Lies What Is After Life Who Came Up With That Theory Just Decided To Study Judaism Today P.S Am Still An Atheist!![/size] 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by ayooladee(f): 10:50pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
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| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Scholar8200(m): 11:49pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
Lilbrown007:Thanks for that info. It explains the state of mind that informed your lop-sidedness and assures us that this thread is not a report of an unbiased study but a search for more grounds to remain a theophobe! |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 12:07am On Jul 11, 2016 |
Scholar8200:Theophobe?? No Lets Just Say I Hate Liars!!! So Whats Ur Stand?? |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by hopefulLandlord: 8:11am On Jul 11, 2016 |
Thanks for this research |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by sonmvayina(m): 8:31am On Jul 11, 2016 |
Three things in this life can never remain hidden for long...the sun, the moon and the truth... |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 9:59am On Jul 11, 2016 |
sonmvayina:Teenwolf Fan?? |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 10:09am On Jul 11, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:I was just curious why we don't get Jews turning Christians It Seams Like The Jews Know Better |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by ValentineMary(m): 3:52pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Lilbrown007:Christians once saw jews as enemies because they felt that they killed Jesus. During the inquisition, u could be burnt along side 500 other people for just being jews. |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 4:27pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
ValentineMary:Talking Of Hitler After Being Brain Washed By The Catholic Thought Jews Were The Enemy We All Know How That Ended The Problem Now Is That The Christian Betrayed The Jew And They Didn't Do This Honestly But Was Built On Lies Of Christianity Resulting To Millions Of Jew Death Just Imagine That!! Because Of Christianity Its Hard To Find Truth In History Cause Its All Being Painted In Lies But Historians Are Still Trying Their Best Sha I Personally Think The Catholic Should Be Brought To The Courts But This Is Literally Impossible Cause Gullible Citizens Will Even Defend Them |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by MrPresident1: 4:42pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
The fake Jews say that Jesus is in hell boiling in hot excrement, obviously this is a very terrible statement and should not even be voiced out, but it is the TRUTH. Jesus Christ the son of God is a Negro, and He is presently in hell; He has risen from the dead; he is learning. When he comes back from his sojourn in hell where he went to receive power from satan and also set the captive free, the world will no longer see the meek lamb that was obedient to death, the world will BEHOLD THE LION, THE GREAT CONQUERING LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH, THE MIGHTY GREAT AND TERRIBLE GOD. THE ONE WHO WAS BRUISED IN THE HEEL IS COMING TO CRUSH satan's head COMPLETELY AND FOREVER. MAKE WAY FOR HIS ROYAL SOVEREIGN AND IMPERIAL MAJESTY!!! |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by ValentineMary(m): 4:51pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Lilbrown007:I am telling u. Those guys distorted ancient manuscripts to suit their faith. And worse still, around the 13th century it was a crime to own a bible. If caught with one, you and ur household would be burnt together. Until many books were removed from the bible. What were they hiding  |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 5:05pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
ValentineMary:They Had To Select Gosple That Will Mk It Into The New Testament of Apocalypse of Peter The Epistle of Barnabas Infancy Gospel of James Shepherd of Hermas 1 Clement Gospel of Thomas The Didache Lost Epistle to the Corinthians Third Letter to the Corinthians etc Cause It Didn't Fit Their View but I would like to read All This Books https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gospels |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 5:11pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
MrPresident1:When Will U Christians Stop To Lie?? The Jews Don't Believe In After Life!! Gosh Why Lie They Are Too Much Lies In This Word Already Christianity Invented Heaven And Hell Not Jews |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by MrPresident1: 5:17pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: Who are the Jews you are yapping about, point at them let me see your Jews, advertise your ignorance to the world, I am waiting for you. |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 5:21pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
MrPresident1:Don't We Have The Hebrew Bible Don't We Have Rabbi?? PLS Educate Ur Self |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by MrPresident1: 5:24pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: My friend, I am asking you a direct question, Who are the Hebrews of the Bible, point at them, point to them and advertise your ignorance and lack of understanding to the world. At this point in history, if you give me a wrong answer just know that you have been mis-educated and everything you have in your head is lies. Who are the Hebrews of the Bible, point at them |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Richirich713: 5:41pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
That's the sad part, most Jews have rejected their own Messiah. |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 6:00pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Richirich713:Read b4 U Mk False Assumptions |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Scholar8200(m): 6:02pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Lilbrown007:Go ask a Jew what this means: New International Version After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One (Messiah) will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. Daniel 9:26 P.S.: Daniel was a Jew of jews! |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Nobody: 6:02pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
MrPresident1:Are Hebrews Not Jews?? Pls Minimize The Way U Show Ur Ignorance On The Net |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by MrPresident1: 6:05pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Lilbrown007: My friend, who are the hebrews/Jews, point at them, let us know who you think are the Jews, if you are wrong, just know that everything you have ever been told/taught is a lie. Point to the Hebrews/Israelites/Jews |
| Re: Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus? by Scholar8200(m): 6:11pm On Jul 11, 2016 |
Lilbrown007:Not true!
Here is ignorance illustrated!!! Prophecy had ended yet God's promise of a Prophet like Moses had not yet being fulfilled!!! Jesus came and clearly pointed out that He was Moses'reference! John 5:46 quote your 'jewish sources' here. Until then, these are your personal assumptions. Mary came from Nathan's family line; Nathan was David's biological son, what then? The pharisees must be proud of you! Yet your heroes, the pharisees would lead their sheep for feeding on the sabbath? And the priests would profane the same sabbath and were blameless You do not understand the law. Is making a paste forbidden by the sabbath law? If yes, prove it!1 Like 1 Share |
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