The company formed to receive cavalry, but the CAVALRY ADVANCING deployed to the right and left when within musket range and unmasked a body of seven hundred NEGRO INFANTRY, all armed with muskets, who opened fire on our men, wounding two lieutenants and two privates, and rushing forward surrounded the company of Germans who cut their way through killing six of the negroes and wounding several more. The main body, hearing the firing, advanced at a double-quick in time to recover their wounded, and drive the enemy back, but did not succeed in taking any prisoners. The wounded men TESTIFY POSITIVELY that they were shot by Negroes, and that not less than seven hundred were present, armed with musket 1st pic fought for the South.

tdayof:
PLANAF

tdayof:
JF17B

MikeCZA:
All I see are Chinese.

Jointly funded.

tdayof:


Chinese made yes and jointly funded. Funding should include TOT etc blablabla.. Someone said it's about giving the Chinese access to the F-16

tdayof:


Chinese made yes and jointly funded. Funding should include TOT etc blablabla.. Someone said it's about giving the Chinese access to the F-16

Henry240:


I also wanted to bring that up. All I've seen in the videos and pictures are Chinese engineers and pilots.

Is the JF-17 jointly funded or jointly produced?

It kinda looks like it is jointly funded.

nemesis2u:




don't mention it again
and
don't say it too loud

if it reaches..............

be ready to bear the consequences





sorry could not help myself

nemesis2u:







jokes aside developing a fighter is not a childs play something which the indians have learnt at a great cost of both money and time.

u need to have a corresponding civilian industrial complex to support such endeavors. in reality the military industrial complex is a poor cousin to the civilian industrial complex.

Henry240:


I don't see anything there to be ashamed of, as long as there is still TOT at the end. However we have to be honest with ourselves, the JF-17 is a Chinese plane.

Henry240:


You have to have the economy and a highly skilled work force to develop a fighter jet. The Chinese have this in abundance.

nemesis2u:


the Chinese r rolling in extravagance

wont mind kidnapping a few thousand of them , i am sure they wont be missed

nemesis2u:


what ashamed ?

i never mentioned anything about being ashamed


tell me this (a general life question)

u r a owner of a garage and a good mechanic

and i give u the TOT for a car engine

what good will it do to u ?


now think this in respect of a country

unless u have the eco system in place to absorb and put into practice the TOT with reasonable economical feasibility , it is useless.

it takes 25-30 years and billions of dollars to create a aviation ecosystem strong enough to absorb full spectrum TOT and even then it will struggle becz technology is always evolving.

Henry240:




They already have 1.4 billion of them, and that's only mainland China. If we add Taiwan, Hongkong and Macau that number is expected to swell.

Probably kidnap 5 million of them to work in the highly skilled sectors of the economy.

nemesis2u:


taiwan

ur hereby being prioritized as a target for Taiwan foreign covert action group

enjoy ur few days now

Henry240:


Don't they both claim to be the real China.

Man, they are all the same.

nemesis2u:


what ashamed ?

i never mentioned anything about being ashamed


tell me this (a general life question)

u r a owner of a garage and a good mechanic

and i give u the TOT for a car engine

what good will it do to u ?


now think this in respect of a country

unless u have the eco system in place to absorb and put into practice the TOT with reasonable economical feasibility , it is useless.

it takes 25-30 years and billions of dollars to create a aviation ecosystem strong enough to absorb full spectrum TOT and even then it will struggle becz technology is always evolving.

nemesis2u:
@MikeCZA

how about handing over the list of SA topflight aviation specialists ?

i will sell it to the indians who can lure them with with some spicy bollywood dance and songs

we will share the profits 60 /40

MikeCZA:
We would be entering an already saturated market.

Tough competition from the Europeans.