Empiree:
Bro, I only posted this for seun, usermane and the likes. I'm not about sectarian bcus that doesn't make sense here. Seun is addressing islam and muslims which concerns you and i.
If you paid close attention you would see that the brother that made this video refuted this angry man's view on ISLAM

this angry man is an ex Sunni. i do not really blame him for his confusion. if you guys cannot come to the reality to see the problem of Wahhabism, you guys may as well apostatize and seek atheism. if you cannot separate Wahhabi Takfiri terror from the Islam you follow, then you are accepting their terrorism as part of Islam.

you just cannot blame it all on the West or its invasion of Muslim countries for the Takfiri terrorism going on. the West did exploit the Wahhabi ideology to carry out its dirty work, like we are witnessing in Syria. Wahhabi terrorists from across the world flooded Syria on sectarian premise against Shia and the Alawite Shia sub-sect. in afghanistan too, wahhabis were used to fight the soviet union in the 80s in the peak of the cold war.

if you justify the attacks of Wahhabi terrorists in western countries as reaction for the West bombing Muslim countries, then how do you justify the attacks by Wahhabi terrorists against fellow Muslims, in particular Shia and Sufi Sunnis? you have to come to realization that the Sunnism of Wahhabis is based on Takfiri killings and excommunicating everyone who disagree with them, and they even excommunicate themselves and kill each other over silly differences (amongst themselves). the idea that you can label another Muslim and declare him a kafir (takfir) and then you have the right to kill him is not Islamic. there is no compulsion in religion is what the Quran tells us. likewise the idea you can kill a kafir because of what he believes is not Islamic. wahhabism is based on the teachings of ibn taymiyyah,and his heir ibn abdul-wahab. terrorism is not justified. two wrongs do not make a right. i doubt the Prophet (s) will permit Muslims to indiscriminately kill westerners because their countries bomb Muslim countries. the indiscriminate killings of civilians is not Islamic. the Prophet (s) forbade killing non-combatants. faith based killings are not islamic either. so the video trying to refute this confused man is also not providing the right answers and making a wrong excuse. Saudi Wahhabism has caused a lot of problems. however, the West will only see it as a threat when it threatens their peace, and not when wahhabis kill Muslims.

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smh.....u dont seem to get it, do you?. I understand where you driving at but that's not the point here really.

madridguy:
To me, the tragedy in France is reprisal attack not Terrorist attack.

The only solution to be done to permanently end the perpetration of reprisal attack is for the self acclaimed WORLD POWER to leave MUSLIM countries alone. Why always them?

Iraq was a better country before the western country invaded Iraq. Libyan citizen once live like queen and king in their domain, they enjoy almost everything free of charge/subsidize rate before France led NATO turned Libya to Terrorist castle.

Now let ask ourselves, let put ourselves in the shoe of Iraqi and Libyan, do you think these people will be happy with their oppressor? I have a lot to say but my heart is too heavy now thinking how Iraqi's are killed every seconds with no media to fight for them.

Before you start calling me names, ask yourself this question; why are countries like Switzerland, Poland, Ukraine, Sweden, Austria, Luxembourg to mention few are exempted by the terrorist?

France and Belgium problem started the day they led NATO to Libya. America play indoor game in the invasion in Libya and they recorded the first casualties as the blood of their ambassador to Libya was wasted for the invasion. The frontiers, France and Belgium are still counting casualties.

Moral of the story, don't do EVIL.

There is room for constructive criticism and counter fact.

Stop deceiving used my friend. The real cause is bigotry and hatred embedded in islam.

Killing of innocent people in northern nigeria, Cameroun etc was that cause by world powers? .

Always looking for others to blame for your problem when the problem comes from within.

Another fallacy or self deception is Muslim claim to fight for god or defending their god..that is a senseless talk that can only be based on stupidity.

The countries that those Muslims are attacking are countries that granted Muslims asylum.

Switzeland, Austria has a partial ban on islam and they are enjoying peace within that country.

Another truth is that there is a war going on within islam between Shia and Sunni.

There is always fighting

Go and read your book boy and quote me when you have better fact. Peace

quickly:


Stop deceiving used my friend. The real cause is bigotry and hatred embedded in islam.

Killing of innocent people in northern nigeria, Cameroun etc was that cause by world powers? .

Always looking for others to blame for your problem when the problem comes from within.

Another fallacy or self deception is Muslim claim to fight for god or defending their god..that is a senseless talk that can only be based on stupidity.

The countries that those Muslims are attacking are countries that granted Muslims asylum.

Switzeland, Austria has a partial ban on islam and they are enjoying peace within that country.

Another truth is that there is a war going on within islam between Shia and Sunni.

There is always fighting

Seun:
In light of the tragedy in France, which claimed 84 lives, I'd like to ask Nairaland muslims a very important question:

Is there something in Islam that makes it very easy for bad men to convince young muslim men to take part in evil terrorist attacks?

If so, what is it? And what should be done to permanently end the perpetration of terrorist acts by people who claim to be muslims?

The reason is MOHAMMED-his words and action and he has pulled off the biggest con the world have seen.


Most so called muslims or mohammedans are better than their leader. If they follow there leader even the devil will look like a learner


LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING VERSES

The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]… but if desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”

There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war, even if the historical context was not. However, there are also two worrisome pieces to this verse. The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of “persecution” (a qualification that is ambiguous at best). The second is that fighting may persist until “religion is for Allah.” The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring.

Quran (2:244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.”

Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse.
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Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”
Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”. This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be ‘joining companions to Allah’).
Quran (4:74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.” The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today’s suicide bombers.
Quran (4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”
Quran (4:89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”
Quran (4:95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-” This passage criticizes “peaceful” Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah’s eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that “Jihad” doesn’t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man’s protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).
Quran (4:104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…” Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?
Quran (5:33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”
Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
Quran (8:15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey’s end.”
Quran (8:39) – “And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah” From the historical context we know that the “persecution” spoken of here was simply the refusal by the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city and perform the Haj. Other Muslims were able to travel there, just not as an armed group, since Muhammad declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad’s intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until “religion is only for Allah.” According to Ibn Ishaq (324), Muhammad justified the violence further by explaining that “Allah must have no rivals.”
Quran (8:57) – “If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.”
Quran (8:59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah’s Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy.”
Quran (8:65) – “O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight…”
Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.” According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam. Prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars.
Quran (9:14) – “Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace…”
Quran (9:20) – “Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah’s way are of much greater worth in Allah’s sight. These are they who are triumphant.” The “striving” spoken of here is Jihad.
Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” “People of the Book” refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final “revelations” from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad’s companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in just the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.
Quran (9:30) – “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”
Quran (9:38-39) – “O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place.” This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.
Quran (9:41) – “Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew.” See also the verse that follows (9:42) – “If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them” This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).
Quran (9:73) – “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.” Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today’s devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.
Quran (9:88) – “But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper.”
Quran (9:111) – “Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.”
Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”
Quran (18:65-81) – This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story, which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source, tells of Moses encountering a man with “special knowledge” who does things which don’t seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would “grieve” his parents by “disobedience and ingratitude.” He was killed so that Allah could provide them a ‘better’ son.
Quran (21:44) – “We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?”
Quran (25:52) – “Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness…” “Strive against” is Jihad – obviously not in the personal context. It’s also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.
Quran (33:60-62) – “If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter.” This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered “merciless” and “horrible murder” in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to “fight in the way of Allah” (3:167) and hence don’t act as Muslims should), those with “diseased hearts” (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and “alarmists” or “agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad’s biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today’s terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah’s eternal word to Muslim generations.
Quran (47:3-4) – “Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similtudes. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,” Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn’t do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. “But if it had been Allah’s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.”
Quran (47:35) – “Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: “have the upper hand”) for Allah is with you,” This very important verse asserts that the Religion of Peace is not to grant peace to the broader society until Islamic rule has been established.
Quran (48:17) – “There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom.” Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means ‘spiritual struggle.’ Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?
Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves” Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.
Quran (61:4) – “Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way” Religion of Peace, indeed! This is followed by (61:9): “He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist.”
Quran (61:10-12) – “O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity.” This verse was given in battle. It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.
Quran (66:9) – “O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey’s end.” The root word of “Jihad” is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include “hypocrites” – those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.


Muslim (20:4645) – “…He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa’id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!”

Muslim (20:4696) – “the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: ‘One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihid died the death of a hypocrite.'”

Muslim (19:4321-4323) – Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: “They are of them (meaning the enemy).”
Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, “Kill any Jew who falls under your power.” Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad’s men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.
Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
Ibn Ishaq: 327 – “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”
Ibn Ishaq: 990 – Lest anyone think that cutting off someone’s head while screaming ‘Allah Akbar!’ is a modern custom, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.
Ibn Ishaq: 992 – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.” Muhammad’s instructions to his men prior to a military raid.[/size]

Most so called muslims or mohammedans are better than their leader. If they follow there leader even the devil will look like a learner


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7VDxCicvXE

madridguy:
Go and read your book boy and quote me when you have better fact. Peace

I value u more than Arab or Mohammed value u as an african. To bedouin Arab or Mohammed u are a slave, adescendants of conquered fellow wey Don swallow banana plus peel.

They already captured u I dey try free u

Arab software needs to be removed from u r brain

quickly:

I value u more than Arab or Mohammed value u as an african. To bedouin Arab or Mohammed u are a slave, adescendants of conquered fellow wey Don swallow banana plus peel.
They already captured u I dey try free u
Arab software needs to be removed from u r brain

you and the Takfiri think alike. those verses from the Quran you misquoted and misinterpreted are conditioned on the below verses, and all the verses to fight have their contexts. they are not carte blanche. if those verses to justify fight do not meet the below requirements, then it is not an Islamic fight, it is not Jihad as per prophetic standards and it is not Quranic.

Holy Quran 22:39-41
Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory.[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ." And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.[And they are] those who, if We give them authority in the land, establish prayer and give zakah and enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong. And to Allah belongs the outcome of [all] matters.

HOLY QURAN 2:190:
Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

HOLY QURAN 8:61
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is the One that Heareth and Knoweth (all things)."

HOLY QURAN 16:126
"And if ye do punish them, punish them no worse than they punished you: but if ye show patience, that is indeed the best (course) for those who are patient."

HOLY QURAN 41:34
"Nor can Goodness and Evil be equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better: then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!"

ShiaMuslim:


you and the Takfiri think alike. those verses from the Quran you misquoted and misinterpreted are conditioned on the below verses, and all the verses to fight have their contexts. they are not carte blanche. if those verses to justify fight do not meet the below requirements, then it is not an Islamic fight, it is not Jihad as per prophetic standards and it is not Quranic.

Holy Quran 22:39-41
Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory.[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, "Our Lord is Allah ." And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.[And they are] those who, if We give them authority in the land, establish prayer and give zakah and enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong. And to Allah belongs the outcome of [all] matters.

HOLY QURAN 2:190:
Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

HOLY QURAN 8:61
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is the One that Heareth and Knoweth (all things)."

HOLY QURAN 16:126
"And if ye do punish them, punish them no worse than they punished you: but if ye show patience, that is indeed the best (course) for those who are patient."

HOLY QURAN 41:34
"Nor can Goodness and Evil be equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better: then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!"

that is genesis of bigotry within islam -always feeling every one is lesser or worser than u . When infact ur in deep shit already.


UR following a babaric concept--a word is enough for the wise
CC Seun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutbism

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Takfir[edit]
The most controversial aspect of Qutbism is takfir, Qutb's idea that Islam is "extinct." According to takfir, with the exception of Qutb’s Islamic vanguard, those who call themselves Muslims are not actually Muslim. Takfir was intended to shock Muslims into religious re-armament. When taken literally, takfir also had the effect of causing non-Qutbists who claimed to be Muslim in violation of Sharia law, a law that Qutb very much supported. Violating this law could potentially be considered apostasy from Islam: a crime punishable by death according to Qutbis.[18]
Because of these serious consequences, Muslims have traditionally been reluctant to practice takfir, that is, to pronounce professed Muslims as unbelievers (even Muslims in violation of Islamic law).[19] This prospect of fitna, or internal strife, between Qutbists and "takfir-ed" mainstream Muslims, was put to Qutb by prosecutors in the trial that led to his execution,[20] and is still made by his Muslim detractors.[21][22]
Qutb died before he could clear up the issue of whether jahiliyyah referred to the whole "Muslim world," to only Muslim governments, or only in an allegorical sense,[23] but a serious campaign of terror—or "physical power and jihad" against "the organizations and authorities" of "jahili" Egypt—by insurgents observers believed to be influenced by Qutb followed in the 1980s and 1990s.[24] Victims included Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, head of the counter-terrorism police Major General Raouf Khayrat, parliamentary speaker Rifaat el-Mahgoub, dozens of European tourists and Egyptian bystanders, and over one hundred Egyptian police officers.[25] Other factors (such as economic dislocation/stagnation and rage over President Sadat's policy of reconciliation with Israel) played a part in instigating the violence,[26] but Qutb's takfir against jahiliyyah (or jahili) society, and his passionate belief that jahiliyyah government was irredeemably evil, played a key role.[27]

Your minds are channelled into 1 thing that ' they are Muslims ' . But the truth is that they are not Muslims. They are just suffering people paid and brainwashed to plant the bomb. This is a political thing not a religious thing. Why iss it that the so-called Islamic sect are always attacking countries and not other religion?? You guys are just believing what the America government want you to believe. All Islamic real scholars are not in support of the Isis, bokoHaram etc . The more you want to know about all these things via YouTube , Google etc the more confused you get.
To my findings, Americans see Islamic nation as strong headed that only follow the doctrine of their Holybook(Quran) . So they tend to cause confusion with the terrorist thing. Musims are not terrorist. People are just impersonating. More stories but I just can't type. You guys should think cos you'll account for whatever say/quote.

Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name Of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (everyone).

Stop deceiving used my friend. The real cause is bigotry and hatred embedded in islam.

Killing of innocent people in northern nigeria, Cameroun etc was that cause by world powers? .

Always looking for others to blame for your problem when the problem comes from within.

Another fallacy or self deception is Muslim claim to fight for god or defending their god..that is a senseless talk that can only be based on stupidity.

The countries that those Muslims are attacking are countries that granted Muslims asylum.

Switzeland, Austria has a partial ban on islam and they are enjoying peace within that country.

Another truth is that there is a war going on within islam between Shia and Sunni.

There is always fighting ~ quickly.

The killing of innocents began with ISIS, a creation of the Western powers. Fighting is of the lesser jihad. The Greater Jihad is the battle with the ego, the self within. The NWO, New World Order, is an invention whose intent is to destroy the self within, hence the need to corrupt Islam, and all other religion, to be replaced by a one world religion, or, Satanic worship. The implementation of the NWO, through radicalism, is directly causing the chaos and confusion concerning the correct understanding of the Noble Qur'an. The real fight is with the NWO, in my opinion.



Wassalaam. DevotedOne

DevotedOne:
Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name Of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (everyone).




The killing of innocents began with ISIS, a creation of the Western powers. Fighting is of the lesser jihad. The Greater Jihad is the battle with the ego, the self within. The NWO, New World Order, is an invention whose intent is to destroy the self within, hence the need to corrupt Islam, and all other religion, to be replaced by a one world religion, or, Satanic worship. The implementation of the NWO, through radicalism, is directly causing the chaos and confusion concerning the correct understanding of the Noble Qur'an. The real fight is with the NWO, in my opinion.



Wassalaam. DevotedOne

Ignorance is no excuse my broda in the eyes of the law.

The fault does not lie in Western powers but in the quran and mohammed who is the inspiration .

I know accepting this is too bitter for u to even fathom or accept.

Saudi Arabia is the one preaching all tis exteremism so as to expand their influence in the world.
Do your reseach and add it together because the info is out there

They (saudi) want ur soul for their culture appropriation and expansion

The west want resources

America used too care about the middle east when it didnot have oil. Now there is an oil boom in america they can be less concerned.

OR why do u think there is a fall in oil prices -( because the US demand of foreign oil has dropped).

ISIS are killing for the god of koran and not for the west---

Its a bitter pill to swallow for u but anytime u hit ur head on the ground and bow facing mecca remember that

What can be done about the Wahhabi school of Islam, which is being funded by Saudi Arabians? Is terrorism here to stay until their oil is gone?

Seun:
What can be done about the Wahhabi school of Islam, which is being funded by Saudi Arabians? Is terrorism here to stay until their oil is gone?

So it is narrowed down to "Wahabbism" now?. Dont get caught up in that sectarian trash, sir. Did you even study "Wahabi"'s oil connection with the West in the regime of King Faisal?. Then US secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger who cajoled the King to sell oil for US $$. The king fell for it in direct violation of Allah's Law. The West is happy and there is no such thing as terrorism bcus its all worked i their favor.

Later, the King Faisal publicly voiced his support for the struggles of his muslim brothers in Palestine being persecuted by the zionists, which is not in the best interest of the West. What did they do?. They killed him(terrorism). King Faisal was shot point-blank and killed by his half-brother's son, Faisal bin Musaid, who had just come back from the United States. The dude returned from US with brief cases filled with $$$. That's blood money funded by the CIA. Before this time, we don't necessarily hear "wahabi terrorists" until after this incident. So basically, they got rid of Islamic man of peace who was misguided but later woke up from his slumber. The moment he returned to his Islamic senses, they got rid of him. So do you care if this isn't act of terrorism?. That's the start of it.

So now,, I have every right to say after the King's name, King Faisal (rahimohum Llahu - May God have mercy on him). Remember it was this King that completely abolished slavery in the peninsula in 1962. You may need to inform yourself on this issue of "petro-dollar". That's the genesis of terrorism. King Faisal did not want to be part of it until he was seduced by the US. He wanted to use "Sunna money" legislated by the Qur'an.

Empiree:
So it is narrowed down to "Wahabbism" now?. Dont get caught up in that sectarian trash, sir. Did you even study "Wahabi"'s oil connection with the West in the time of ruling king Faisal?. Then US secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger who cajoled the King to sell oil for US $$. The king fell for it in direct violation of Allah's Law. The West is happy and there is no such thing as terrorism bcus its all work i their favor.

Later, the King Faisal publicly voiced his support for the struggles of his muslim brothers in Palestine being persecuted by the zionists, which is not in the best interest of the West. What did they do?. They killed him(terrorism). King Faisal was shot point-blank and killed by his half-brother's son, Faisal bin Musaid, who had just come back from the United States. The dude returned from US with brief cases filled with $$$. That's blood money funded by the CIA. Before this time, we don't necessarily hear "wahabi terrorists" until after this incident. So basically, they got rid of Islamic man of peace who was misguided but later woke up from his slumber. The moment he returned to his Islamic senses, they got rid of him. So do you care if this isn't act of terrorism?. That's the start of it.

So now,, I have every right to say after the King's name, King Faisal (rahimohum Llahu - May God have mercy on him). Remember it was this King that completely abolished slavery in the peninsula in 1962. You may need to inform yourself on this issue of "petro-dollar". That's the genesis of terrorism. King Faisal did not want to be part of it until he was seduced by the US. He wanted to use "Sunna money" legislated by the Qur'an.

if i give u one billion dollars will u kill ur brother? after they had billions and there father founded saudi.

US was buying oil from everybody including nigeria.

The element of terrorism was there now they had money and they wanted to create a global empire in the same fashion as mohammed did.

He created it by killing ppl.

Too much money and they start funding terrorism worldwide to please the puritannical

As-Salaam-Alaikum

I fear there is a circle of imprudent misunderstanding and miscommunication of this phenomenon. Hence a larger population of Islam are seemingly oblivious of this phenomenon or blissfully ignore it. I may be wrong, we are talking about 3+ billion Muslims that I may have just made a blanket generalization about. I mean no offense in the sincerest of terms.

I am not Muslim so please forgive my foray into this prohibited section. I was born in Zaria and share the same fence with a mosque on Old Hospital Road, sabon-gari. I witnessed first hand, the Mai-tatsine riots at a young age. I had to leave after I survived the second and most vicious religious riots in Kaduna, lost my foster mother and fled to Obalende, Lagos.

I fear (sadly so) that Muslims are too ashamed to admit the evident truth or implicitly (silently) endorse the trend in Religious Extremism ... a fancy word for Islamic Fundamentalism or as many have come to know it by... Islamic Terrorism. I have few friends but I can confidently tell you they are split between Hausa and Fulani across Nigeria with 3 being non-Muslims. I will ask the same questions i posed to them.

1: Is it right from the perspective of the Koran, to express crude and unabated violence to innocent non-Muslims based on an infraction off the Koran?
2: In supporting the brotherhood of Islam (not the Islamic Brotherhood), is it right to do this in the spirit of the struggle or to exact reprisals within your local community.
3: It is evidently recognized that the "West" promote a selfish propaganda in the Oil Rich Middle-East, How does the Muslim community view this affair and how do they plan to restore a state of normalcy or equity.. Libya, Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Somalia, Kenya, Nigeria are symptomatic back-lashes resulting from bottled-up hatred for the West and the (some will say) privileged nations in the Middle-East. What is the 99% (non-extremist) Muslim-world doing to change the perception or belief or strong conviction that Islam is deeply rooted in Hatred, Violence and Intolerance.
4: If you were called to engage in a "Jihad" as a dutiful Muslim, would it be literal or would it be non-literal and why?
5: If I offended your sensibilities as a Muslim or the Holy Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) or the Koran.. what would be your exact reaction?

Some have been fair in responding unequivocally and some are neither here no there (the moderates i call them).

So please - would anyone be kind to give me a honest response that is not either of the below - I have my reasons
1: The Christians did it worse in centuries past
2: It is a Strict Instruction from the Holy Prophet
3: Islam/Sharia must be established in the World because it is Allah's
4: My brothers are being oppressed across the world

Thank you for your consideration.

any response is appreciated. Thanks

Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name Of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (everyone).

everydayperson said:

1: Is it right from the perspective of the Koran, to express crude and unabated violence to innocent non-Muslims based on an infraction off the Koran?

As I have stated in my recent post above, the radicalism presently being spawned throughout the world, is the work of the NWO. They intend to unite the world as one criminal entity to worship their father Satan. This necessitates the elimination of all other religions. I don't know if anyone has noticed, but Russia, is not interested in becoming a part of the New World Order, NWO. So these NWO, gangsters are mistreating Russia, telling lies regarding them, and attempting to start world war three.

See here: http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/07/15/vladimir-putin-is-the-only-leader-the-west-has/



Wassalaam. DevotedOne

@DevotedOne.. thanks for your insight. may I ask... NWO is a long-running theme in conspiracy theories.. however I have no doubt, just as any sensible person out there, that this is an "open" agenda towards a unified global system of governance and economy modeled after the EU. it is no surprise that economically stronger nations will align or integrate with like nations who share similar Socio-political and economic ideologies. This is only natural to present a common front to a common concern.

If this alignment strongly indicates a focused and driven approach to undermining Islam and the global Muslim community, then I believe there is a larger Islamic/Muslim strong-hold knowledgeable and willing enough to neutralize such amalgamation either through Propaganda, Economic blackmail - (OIL) or Diplomatic posturing or even sheer numbers. That does not seem to be the case. leading beacons of Islam like Saudi Arabia are very much in bed with the NWO, as are other wealthier nations in the middle-east.

To the learned-mind, it is easy to see the manipulations of the "West" and the resultant effects across the Muslim World. what I do not see is an concerted, purposed effort at neutralizing and at the same time improving the perception of Islam to a largely tolerant and civil global societies. I agree only an infinitesimally small percentage of the Islam world is made up of misguided and brainwashed extremists. but that tiny percentage has brought the worlds fastest growing religion into a sour limelight that only dims with each growing public attack tied to Islam across the world. not all Terrorist Groups are Islamic.. at least 95% of the known ones are.

You can understand my exasperation when there is all but silence and in-action from the Peaceful 99%

Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name Of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (everyone).


everydayperson commented on:

To the learned-mind, it is easy to see the manipulations of the "West" and the resultant effects across the Muslim World. what I do not see is an concerted, purposed effort at neutralizing and at the same time improving the perception of Islam to a largely tolerant and civil global societies. I agree only an infinitesimally small percentage of the Islam world is made up of misguided and brainwashed extremists. but that tiny percentage has brought the worlds fastest growing religion into a sour limelight that only dims with each growing public attack tied to Islam across the world. not all Terrorist Groups are Islamic.. at least 95% of the known ones are.

You can understand my exasperation when there is all but silence and in-action from the Peaceful 99%

http://www.jeremiahproject.com/newworldorder/

"True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within." Saul Alinsky

Thousands of years earlier, Roman philosopher and politician Cicero, wrote of his understanding of the process,

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not traitor, he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared." - Cicero, 42 B.C.

http://www.fastcoexist.com/3059005/the-new-world-order-is-ruled-by-global-corporations-and-megacities-not-countries


I must presume that the Peaceful 99% are those whom are the saved. We have seen for the most part what the imitation warriors can do to aid their masters. Chaos, confusion, stupidity, idiocy. Surely infiltration is betrayal. Did I mention, infiltration is betrayal?



Wassalaam. DevotedOne

Seun:
What can be done about the Wahabi school of Islam, which is being funded by Saudi Arabians? Is terrorism here to stay until their oil is gone?

Fantastic questions, Seun!

first question is what can be done about the Wahhabi school of Islam?

answer: Wahhabism is not even a school of Islam. it claims to be part and parcel of Sunni Islam. however, it is distinct in its extremism and Takfiri preaching and killing. Wahhabism is more or less an ideological movement. i think calling it a "school of Islam" is giving it more than it deserves.

going to the essence of the question, this can be best answered by the Western powers. they created and sponsored al-Saud and the Wahhabi ideology for their interests. when they see that it no longer serves their interests, then they will tell us or show us what they will do. al-Saud are needed to serve western interests and also ensure the oil keep flowing. Wahhabism is used to fight for western interests in Afghanistan against the soviet union and in Syria against bashar al-assad and his allies, namely Iran and Hezbollah (staunch anti-Zionist/Israeli occupation and pro-Palestinian), and to a lesser extent Russian influence.

the second question is, Is terrorism here to stay till the oil is gone?

well, the oil does not have to go for there to be a solution. there can be many solutions. the "saudi oil" is found in the Eastern Province of present day saudi arabia. the Eastern Province is majority Shia. and one way to cut the Wahhabi of money they use to sponsor madrassas in Pakistan, and spread extremist literature in Africa and build Wahhabi mosques in Europe to radicalize Sunni Muslim youths, is to stop the oil money, the petro dollars. that would mean the Eastern Province will have to secede. that is one fear the saudis have for their opposition to the rise of the majority Shia Arab population in neighboring Iraq. the Shia Arab population, once they settle down and gain more affluence will surely gain more influence. Iraq shares a land border with saudi. and unlike Iran, the Iraqi Shia population is Arabic speaking. there is not ethnic bias here. if Iran wants to interfere, like in the case of the Saudi Shia cleric Nimr al Nimr who was beheaded, saudi is quick to scream that Iran is interfering in the affairs of arab countries. iraq is majority arab and majority shia. so that is a thorn for saudis, thus the instability in iraq and the bloodshed. the aim is to make sure iraq does not enjoy stability and peace, and gain strength from its oil money. they feel a powerful Shia majority and Shia led country like Iraq can pose grave consequences for the saudi Shia factor in the oil rich Eastern Province. seceding would mean cutting off the life support oxygen for Wahhabism and its spread.

another means could be direct western military intervention, as has been the case in several Muslim countries. this may be farfetched as the holy land factor can play into the advantage of the saudis. it can risk a world war for western powers to attack a country that houses the holiest places in Islam, even though most muslims are ignorant of the fact that al-saud and their wahhabi clerics got control of these places through bloodshed and by eliminating sunni arabian tribes in the arabian peninsula.

the last option could be pressure from the west, and having an internal coup. this wont also work because the wahhabi clerics are too influential and powerful. there was a survey in which majority of saudis showed approval for isis. the imam of Makkah, appointed by the saudi govt, declared that the saudis (i.e. wahhabis in saudis) have the same beliefs as isis.

in my own view, may be you can say out of bias as a Shia, is for the western powers to make sure that the eastern province secedes. that would start with the liberation of bahrain, a majority shia arab country ruled by a brutal sunni monarchy in allegiance to saudi arabia. saudi sent troops to quell the peaceful revolution in bahrain.

however, it is unfortunate that the Iranian factor plays against the interests of Shia Muslims, be they Shia Arabs or even Shia Africans. the iranian factor has made the biased western media to turn a blind eye on our peaceful teachings and peaceful conduct as Shia. Iran wants to be a power to reckon with. Iran also has historical differences with the USA which sponsored a coup in Iran in 1953 against a democratically elected iranian govt. and anti-iranian policies by the USA through its puppet, the former king of Iran (shah) has made Iranian-US relations uneasy most at times, until recently. general, due to religious affinity, most Shias worldwide have a positive disposition towards Iran. Iran also opposes israel. there is the israel factor. so until Iran and the USA can meet eye to eye and settle their differences on all issues, it will be hard for the Shia to be viewed with trust, even though the mistrust is built on political rivalry in respect to iran than real threat posed by Shia.

so the west really have to say enough is enough to wahhabism. saudi has american military bases and also bahrain. so who or how will anyone stop wahhabism? they are protected by the world's strongest military. and the saudi population is docile towards the political establishment because the opium of religion (wahhabism) is strong on them.

i hope this has answered your questions, to the best of my knowledge and maybe, prejudices!

Empiree:
So it is narrowed down to "Wahabbism" now?. Dont get caught up in that sectarian trash, sir. Did you even study "Wahabi"'s oil connection with the West in the time of ruling king Faisal?. Then US secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger who cajoled the King to sell oil for US $$. The king fell for it in direct violation of Allah's Law. The West is happy and there is no such thing as terrorism bcus its all work i their favor.

Later, the King Faisal publicly voiced his support for the struggles of his muslim brothers in Palestine being persecuted by the zionists, which is not in the best interest of the West. What did they do?. They killed him(terrorism). King Faisal was shot point-blank and killed by his half-brother's son, Faisal bin Musaid, who had just come back from the United States. The dude returned from US with brief cases filled with $$$. That's blood money funded by the CIA. Before this time, we don't necessarily hear "wahabi terrorists" until after this incident. So basically, they got rid of Islamic man of peace who was misguided but later woke up from his slumber. The moment he returned to his Islamic senses, they got rid of him. So do you care if this isn't act of terrorism?. That's the start of it.

So now,, I have every right to say after the King's name, King Faisal (rahimohum Llahu - May God have mercy on him). Remember it was this King that completely abolished slavery in the peninsula in 1962. You may need to inform yourself on this issue of "petro-dollar". That's the genesis of terrorism. King Faisal did not want to be part of it until he was seduced by the US. He wanted to use "Sunna money" legislated by the Qur'an.

stop living in denial. King Faisal is an exception and you are right, but the extremism in wahhabism did not start after his assassination. King Faisal wanted to disobey those who made them be. and he got served, however unfortunate that was. and for your info, Shia do have favorable view of King Faisal, at least for standing up for his Sunni brothers in Palestine, which today most Sunni Arab countries have abandoned, and mainly the Shia are showing support for palestine. however, King Faisal was not a cleric. the extremism in wahhabism, based on Ibn Taymiyya's and Ibn Abdul Wahab's teachings preceded the birth of Faisal and the killings of wahhabism too. the ransacking of the holy cities of Najaf and Karbala (iraq) based on takfir and the murder of thousands of Shia preceded Faisal. also, al-saud's subservient to the west preceded him. so they got rid of him. and he was an individual. even among the most pathetic and hated rulers of Banu Umayyah, you still find Umar Ibn Aziz has an exception to the inhumanity of the over 30 caliphs from the Ummayad dynasty. so if Faisal is an exception, you can use him to judge wahhabism and al-saud. the west are only after their interests. if today the Shia and Shia powers agree to lick their a$$es, the face of middle east politics and the map of the muslim world will change 180 degrees.

ShiaMuslim:
^^^

You aren't telling me anything new. I think it's high time you reason with me here. Don't think i don't know what your saying. You may know what you talking about but one thing is knowledge - another thing is wisdom.

My point is this thread is not for what you feeding it. Be reasonable here brother. This thread is questioning Islam altogether and sectarianism won't solve it. There is a way around everything. What you saying is a matter among Muslims not the other way.

Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim. As salaamu alaykum. It may or may not be about sectarianism, but it is about having somewhere to begin study.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mBWMbuDp-s Wahhabism: The School of Ibn Taymiyyah - The Root of Terrorism?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJZnmggKkdo Sharia Law - Manipulation & Distortion



Wassalaam. DevotedOne

Demmzy15:
^^^It's a pity he can't reason beyond sectarianism, everything is sectarian. A non-Muslim doesn't know something about Islam, he jumps in and derails with his "Shia persecution" rubbish. Very pathetic!

there is nothing sectarian. i do not know why it hurts you guys to point out the rot called wahhabism that has eaten up the body of Islam. i am actually doing you guys favor by pointing finger at wahhabism instead of having all and about a billion Sunnis held responsible for their atrocities. or is Saudi petro dollars too sweet for you guys to face the truth? the Quran says we should be just even against our own selves. you guys want to cover up because they chant empty slogans that are disguised as Islamic. how can i not say the truth when week in and week out dozens and dozens of Iraqis are targeted in sectarian attacks? you guys pretend as if it is a normal thing. why are the iraqis targeted? because they are Shia! and by who? you know the answer. the same attacks happen around the world. if it is not the Shia targeted, it is Christians and other faiths. faith-based killings are un-Islamic. so what do you say about those so called Muslims who carry such killings? will you blame shaitan or will you blame their satanic pseudo-scholars who have indoctrinated them and spread killer takfiri fatwas? this thread is all about diagnosis and treatment. i am not Wahhabi, and i will continue to speak the truth. i do not want to be held responsible for the atrocities bloodsuckers commit in the name of Muslim unity or whatever empty slogan. from now till Qiyama, Wahhabism is terrorism. simple.

^^Your problem is that you can't make simple clear points without involving sectarianism and rubbish politics. You aren't doing any favors for me or anyone here, for you make an assertion that I gain from the "petrodollars" is very childish and unreasonable. You keep nagging about how Shi'as are killed in Iraaq(when it's a known fact that saudi arabia doesn't have any connections with Iraaq, except that they share borders) but you say nothing about the thousands of Syrians that have killed. Your yardstick to judge is when you see Shias killed but Sunnis, they mean nothing to you!

But what is my very annoying is despite the explanations and lessons given to you, you still prefer to behave like a robot, it's just as if nothing enters your head anymore, it's just what has been programmed into you by your "Husseiniyats" that's what you keep purging out. The fact and truth of the matter is that "Wahhabism has nothing to do with Terrorism", I discovered this myself! So you can keep nagging and masturbating about every thread with your programmed rubbish.

Please for crying out loud, stop mentioning Palestinians in your propaganda. You've nothing for them except to burn Israeli and American flags and lip services of empty slogans. That's all you're known for!

Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim. As salaamu alaykum. I'm really tired of reading this rubbish. I hope you can make some sense of it. Please advise!



https://azelin.files./2016/04/the-islamic-state-22dacc84biq-magazine-1422.pdf Dabiq #14


https://azelin.files./2016/01/the-islamic-state-e2809cdacc84biq-magazine-13e280b3.pdf Dabiq #13




Wassalaam. DevotedOne

Demmzy15:
^^Your problem is that you can't make simple clear points without involving sectarianism and rubbish politics. You aren't doing any favors for me or anyone here, for you make an assertion that I gain from the "petrodollars" is very childish and unreasonable. You keep nagging about how Shi'as are killed in Iraaq(when it's a known fact that saudi arabia doesn't have any connections with Iraaq, except that they share borders) but you say nothing about the thousands of Syrians that have killed. Your yardstick to judge is when you see Shias killed but Sunnis, they mean nothing to you!
But what is my very annoying is despite the explanations and lessons given to you, you still prefer to behave like a robot, it's just as if nothing enters your head anymore, it's just what has been programmed into you by your "Husseiniyats" that's what you keep purging out. The fact and truth of the matter is that "Wahhabism has nothing to do with Terrorism", I discovered this myself! So you can keep nagging and masturbating about every thread with your programmed rubbish.
Please for crying out loud, stop mentioning Palestinians in your propaganda. You've nothing for them except to burn Israeli and American flags and lip services of empty slogans. That's all you're known for!

this thread is about politics and religion. so i wonder how you want me to exclude them in my posts and still make sense. do you expect me to write posts in this thread on pokemon?

majority of suicide bombers in Iraq are Saudi nationals. Iraqi prisons are filled up with Saudi nationals arrested on terrorism related grounds.

i care about oppressed Sunnis in Burma and Palestine and before, in Bosnia. do you care about Shias anywhere?

Sunnis generally have been the ones holding political power in the middle east particular, even in Shia majority lands. so how do you expect them to be oppressed?

in Syria, again what is the role of Isis and Nusra terrorist groups? are these not groups following Wahhabi/Salafist teachings? what is the role of Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and their western masters in destabilizing Syria? is Syria an Islamic Republic? is it a theocracy like iran? syria is secular. the main reason it is burning is because it is secular, because it is led by an Alawite (a Shia sub-sect), and because Syria maintains its opposition to the israeli occupation. the western nations and the wahhabi led countries found grounds to unite and destroy Syria. no one is killing Sunnis in Syria for being Sunni. the majority of the Syria army is made up of Sunnis. so it is Sunnis killing Sunnis? and besides, are those Sunnis combatants or not? if they are civilians, are they targeted in cold blood, as is the case in Iraq where Shias get targeted in cold blood in the places one would least expect? there is civil war in Syria. if civilians get killed in the crossfire, are they targeted for their faith? i dont think so. Syria, its government and army represent the STATE. they are not fighting a religious war. they are not killing civilians but combatants. except if you follow the sectarian lies of aljazeera that assad is "killing his people". and this is the same assad who ruled syria for 11 years without bloodshed. syria was the most peaceful country in the middle east. and this is the same assad that syrians would rather live in the territory he controls than in the territory under ISIS and co. and what does Syria and its civil war have to do with faith-based killings carried out by Wahhabis against others? when you can show me one case of a Shia blowing himself up in a Sunni mosque or in a Christian church, or indiscriminately killing civilians of other faiths in marketplaces in faith-based killing or takfiri killing mission, then you can make a point and i will hear you. until then, keep quiet! who blow themselves up amongst civilians because of the faith they profess? do not mix up issues to hide the truth about WAHHABISM and Takfiri killings. if you have no interests, then why do you want to hide the truth?

and i said WAHHABISM, not Sunnism. wahhabism, even with the saudi petro dollars and the tons of saudi wahhabi literature and brainwashing, represents a tiny fraction of Sunnis. i say wahhabism, and you keep telling me about Sunnis. i do not see them as the same even though Wahhabi present themselves as Sunnis because that is how they get recruits and spread in the larger body of Muslims. so you are the one that should even be worried and be thankful to me for exposing the truth. tell me thank you. and do not waste my time by deliberately trying to mix issues up and hide the truth and try your utmost to spread denial.

and fear Allah!

^^That's a big lie, you don't care about any Sunni. You praised Nasrideen Al Tusi for his betrayal in which thousand of civilians were killed.

You have nothing to do with Burmese Muslims or Palestinians except to burn flags and chant empty slogans of "death to America, death to Israel". Even Saddam Hussein at least fired missiles into Israel but your beloved Iran never did, all they know how to do is to harbor al-Qaeda terrorists. Have you ever wondered why ISIS doesn't attack Iran? It's because there's a covenant of security between them, this is why ISIS goes on to attack the heart of Islam(Medina) but protects the Holy cities of Qom, Mashhad, etc.

Shi'as don't need to blow themselves up, they've done a lot more worse. They ran death squad killing Sunnis who bare names like Umar, Khalid, Mu'awiyah etc in Iraaq, they've killed and injured Sunnis in Bahrain. That's how pathetic you're, Iran is a terrorist state and the state religion is Ithna Ashiri, the masters of Takfir. This terrorist state imports thousands of fighters into Syria to kill Sunnis, they've destabilized Yemen, they arm groups in Gaza so as when they attack Israel killing 2 Israelis the Zionists kill 20 Muslims in return. That's how they've helped the Palestinians, they then burn flags beating and crying like roaches. Mr man, better get off my mention, your hypocrisy stinks!!!