hmmm...okay oo

Shebi d #80bill na all dz money wen dem de add 4 allocations meant for utility charges, wey DPOs, heads of Frsc, Civil Def & immigratn, prisons, ministries, etc de chop clean mouth?

Truth is...we ALL contributed to this mess; maybe thatz why weda we pray from now till thy kingdom come, nothing go change!

I no get time read am abeg wetin dem talk sef.

Customers or consumers cannot continue to bear the brunt of any contractual failure on the part of govt, if at all this is true. Nonsense excuses. What were they thinking when they bought these DISCOs with all the liabilities? They want to recoup their money and start profiting immediately.

Flets:
Nigeria's gas reserves is immense for gas energy, infact Nigeria substructure is made of gas reserves with some oil in it
Nigeria has one of the strongest winds on its coastal lines for wind energy
Nigeria has tons of fast moving water bodies for hydro energy
Beneath Enugu state lies massive deposits of coal energy
The solar energy from the sun in Northern Nigeria is unimaginable

Nigeria can comfortably generate energy to power the whole of west Africa but there is a problem.

The problem is Nigeria's structure. We must embrace true federalism today. Let SS generate power from its gas turbines, let SE generate from its coal deposits, let the coastal region partner with wind energy companies, let the north generate solar energy in partnership with solar energy companies, let the middle belt with fast moving water bodies generate hydro energy from our water bodies.

Without true federalism, No region will invest in these alternative but robust energy sources because of over dependence on oil and gas and we will continue to sabotage efforts aimed at generating these energies under this non-functional unitary system.

The Only Hope for a united Nigeria is True Federalism QED.

Abeg go siddon. When there's a popular narrative in the media, everybody keys into it. Abi Dangote wen dey build biggest refinery in the world in Lagos dey wait for "restructuring" in order to build it? Who stops states from struggling to be wealthy and make life better for their citizens? If there's something that hinders a state from doing what they want to do, isn't there a provision to amend the constitution? Do you know how many amendments have been made on this 1999 constitution? Unless you speak the grand words, ehen! Countries progress by hard work, not idle, lazy slogans. There's no system Nigeria has practised that other nations haven't practised successfully, yet we are debating process on our idle chairs

Flets:
Nigeria's gas reserves is immense for gas energy, infact Nigeria substructure is made of gas reserves with some oil in it
Nigeria has one of the strongest winds on its coastal lines for wind energy
Nigeria has tons of fast moving water bodies for hydro energy
Beneath Enugu state lies massive deposits of coal energy
The solar energy from the sun in Northern Nigeria is unimaginable

Nigeria can comfortably generate energy to power the whole of west Africa but there is a problem.

The problem is Nigeria's structure. We must embrace true federalism today. Let SS generate power from its gas turbines, let SE generate from its coal deposits, let the coastal region partner with wind energy companies, let the north generate solar energy in partnership with solar energy companies, let the middle belt with fast moving water bodies generate hydro energy from our water bodies.

Without true federalism, No region will invest in these alternative but robust energy sources because of over dependence on oil and gas and we will continue to sabotage efforts aimed at generating these energies under this non-functional unitary system.

The Only Hope for a united Nigeria is True Federalism QED.

what stops the states from going off grid.
must you wait for ''true federalism '',whatever that means bfor you sort yourself out.
did you wait for true federalism bfor digging wells, building house, or buying generator.
better stop waiting for these old canker worms and get on with it

modification
low saw this now o

www.nairaland.com/3238743/obiano-signs-mou-zolts-energy

he didn't wait for true federalism o
and I believe there are laws against theft in Nigeria

ayobase:
Of course, some Nigerians are not helping matter.

An average typical Nigerian is a cheat.

And the same set of of corrupt persons will be the first shouting "corruption", "kill him", "where is fuel and tire", "prosecute him"...

Imagine, a company buys electricity worth of N50m from transmission, but more than 50% of the customers bypass. And the company is expected to make interest from the cost price of N50m. There must be estimated billing to make up.

A bypassing customer who consumes about N15,000 worth of electricity per month, but being billed just N2,500. How is the Company expected to make up for the outstanding N12,500.

And the ones that bypass most are the pre-paid metre owners, because they are not monitored often. Even those with analog metre no dey carry last.

The customers with analog meters pay for about 30%, while customers without metre pay about 70% of the outstanding.

In this case, Nigerians and the Companies have a lot to work on.

My guy, no be by force to use air conditioner(s)n not plates and the likes if you know you can't pay for the service. Fan, gas cooker or kerosene stove and the likes will do as well.

Power sectors had really decayed before being privatized.

As some people do say that it is not possible for Buhari to make right the wrong of PDP's mis-ruling for the past 16 years, so the same people should exercise patience with this present Discos, cos it is virtually impossible to make right the wrong of about 30 years in years to come.

N.B

please, if you have paid for pre-paid metre in the last 3 months and not given, you have the choice if not paying for electricity.

And always do endeavour to report any corrupt "NEPA" official to the nearby office.

why are the discos lazy to catch by passers and fine them

tuoyoojo:
only in nigeria do u pay more and get less

only in Nigeria do they lament instead of getting even and treating fuckup

itsik:
Am not calling for a revolution, but at this rate, its inevitable.
Haba. It has gotten to a point where the common man can't even feed.

may common man enter farm

Goke7:
until the cabal desires for us to have power, we will continue to hear stories like this.

Regular power is just bad business for many elites and the cabal in Nigeria

until WE DESIRE to have power we will continue to hear stories.

yjgm:
Use*less people. Am tired of this electricity brouhaha

no be una vote them

ayobase:



With those idiots who do help customers to bypass.

How I wish Nigerians can as well report corrupt Disco staff as they do to police as well, but an average Nigerian will like to cheat.

you can report them
but ppl too lazy to do so

ayobase:
Of course, some Nigerians are not helping matter.

An average typical Nigerian is a cheat.

And the same set of of corrupt persons will be the first shouting "corruption", "kill him", "where is fuel and tire", "prosecute him"...

Imagine, a company buys electricity worth of N50m from transmission, but more than 50% of the customers bypass. And the company is expected to make interest from the cost price of N50m. There must be estimated billing to make up.

A bypassing customer who consumes about N15,000 worth of electricity per month, but being billed just N2,500. How is the Company expected to make up for the outstanding N12,500.

And the ones that bypass most are the pre-paid metre owners, because they are not monitored often. Even those with analog metre no dey carry last.

The customers with analog meters pay for about 30%, while customers without metre pay about 70% of the outstanding.

In this case, Nigerians and the Companies have a lot to work on.

My guy, no be by force to use air conditioner(s)n not plates and the likes if you know you can't pay for the service. Fan, gas cooker or kerosene stove and the likes will do as well.

Power sectors had really decayed before being privatized.

As some people do say that it is not possible for Buhari to make right the wrong of PDP's mis-ruling for the past 16 years, so the same people should exercise patience with this present Discos, cos it is virtually impossible to make right the wrong of about 30 years in years to come.

N.B

please, if you have paid for pre-paid metre in the last 3 months and not given, you have the choice if not paying for electricity.

And always do endeavour to report any corrupt "NEPA" official to the nearby office.

Oga 70% of Nigerians haven't got meters, so why are you wailing about bypass as if that's the issue here. Meter the customers and prosecute people who bypass, how hard can that be? How could you call Nigerians theives, apparently people are stealing a commodity that isn't even available? What could ever justify DISCO workers intentionally sabotaging supply just to extort customers as being experienced in my locality at the moment? The only reason is absence of meters, they get their revenue even if the supply for the month is 0MW. I don't know where this your rationale is coming from o

God. ....please don't allow me to lose hope in this country.

blackprowler:


Abeg go siddon. When there's a popular narrative in the media, everybody keys into it. Abi Dangote wen dey build biggest refinery in the world in Lagos dey wait for "restructuring" in order to build it? Who stops states from struggling to be wealthy and make life better for their citizens? If there's something that hinders a state from doing what they want to do, isn't there a provision to amend the constitution? Do you know how many amendments have been made on this 1999 constitution? Unless you speak the grand words, ehen! Countries progress by hard work, not idle, lazy slogans. There's no system Nigeria has practised that other nations haven't practised successfully, yet we are debating process on our idle chairs

There is no incentive for doing the right under the current system. No current governor that recieves lazy monthly allocations from Abuja will border investing in such projects when he can loot through short term civil projects.

The narrative changes when the governor have to generate his own funds which is electricity/power dependent in the absence of free allocation.

ayobase:
Of course, some Nigerians are not helping matter.

An average typical Nigerian is a cheat.

And the same set of of corrupt persons will be the first shouting "corruption", "kill him", "where is fuel and tire", "prosecute him"...

Imagine, a company buys electricity worth of N50m from transmission, but more than 50% of the customers bypass. And the company is expected to make interest from the cost price of N50m. There must be estimated billing to make up.

A bypassing customer who consumes about N15,000 worth of electricity per month, but being billed just N2,500. How is the Company expected to make up for the outstanding N12,500.

And the ones that bypass most are the pre-paid metre owners, because they are not monitored often. Even those with analog metre no dey carry last.

The customers with analog meters pay for about 30%, while customers without metre pay about 70% of the outstanding.

In this case, Nigerians and the Companies have a lot to work on.

My guy, no be by force to use air conditioner(s)n not plates and the likes if you know you can't pay for the service. Fan, gas cooker or kerosene stove and the likes will do as well.

Power sectors had really decayed before being privatized.

As some people do say that it is not possible for Buhari to make right the wrong of PDP's mis-ruling for the past 16 years, so the same people should exercise patience with this present Discos, cos it is virtually impossible to make right the wrong of about 30 years in years to come.

N.B

please, if you have paid for pre-paid metre in the last 3 months and not given, you have the choice if not paying for electricity.

And always do endeavour to report any corrupt "NEPA" official to the nearby office.

You're right. However, it is the duty of the Discos to detect such theft and call the police so as to bring such persons to book. If one electricity thief is arrested and goes to jail for tampering with government property, others will firm up.

It is however unfortunate that they'd rather just issue estimated bills because it will ultimately fetch them more, theft or not.

WTF is Fashola doing? Send these electricity thieves to jail already!

Another official in another agency said “Discos prefer to purchase their meters from offshore sources because there, they have opportunity of credit facilities whereas Nigerian meter manufacturers insist on cash payment.”

The source said depreciation of naira has made the N49,000 meter price grossly unrealistic even as the Discos have not been allowed to transfer the increment to customers.

This is so not true! single phase meter is N39,000 in BEDC under CAPMI scheme, where consumer will pay for the meter & d DISCO will pay back in 36months I.e N1,000 every month as discount when you want to recharge

Inspite of d consumer paying for these meter, it still takes months for them to supply the meter

So whoose fault is this?

DISCO's are out for profit only & not to render service

8BitGee:


You're right. However, it is the duty of the Discos to detect such theft and call the police so as to bring such persons to book. If one electricity thief is arrested and goes to jail for tampering with government property, others will firm up.

It is however unfortunate that they'd rather just issue estimated bills because it will ultimately fetch them more, theft or not.

WTF is Fashola doing? Send these electricity thieves to jail already!

It takes a customer to start the trend of corruption.

Yes, the Discos have a lot to do.

Remember that the FG has 40% shares in AEDC and regulates.

SnowJay92:


Oga 70% of Nigerians haven't got meters, so why are you wailing about bypass as if that's the issue here. Meter the customers and prosecute people who bypass, how hard can that be? How could you call Nigerians theives, apparently people are stealing a commodity that isn't even available? What could ever justify DISCO workers intentionally sabotaging supply just to extort customers as being experienced in my locality at the moment? The only reason is absence of meters, they get their revenue even if the supply for the month is 0MW. I don't know where this your rationale is coming from o

Re-address this issue after re-reading my post to the end.

So you don't see anything wrong with people without metre bypassing?

The problem started from Nigerians.

"Apparently", why will people keep stealing commodity that is not available?

MIKOLOWISKA:
why are the discos lazy to catch by passers and fine them

Because some customers have compromised with the monitoring staff instead of reporting them.

harveyspec:


This is so not true! single phase meter is N39,000 in BEDC under CAPMI scheme, where consumer will pay for the meter & d DISCO will pay back in 36months I.e N1,000 every month as discount when you want to recharge

Inspite of d consumer paying for these meter, it still takes months for them to supply the meter

So whoose fault is this?

DISCO's are out for profit only & not to render service

You stop paying electric bill if you are not given the already paid for metre within 3 months.

SIMPLE.

ayobase:



Re-address this issue after re-reading my post to the end.

So you don't see anything wrong with people without metre bypassing?

The problem started from Nigerians.

"Apparently", why will people keep stealing commodity that is not available?

No, the problem is not from Nigerians, when you give people avenues and justification to cheat, they will, it doesn't matter if it's America or Utopia. It's just human nature.
I have an analog metre that I paid heavily for, in not less than 5yrs the DISCO officials stop reading the meter, saying it's obsolete (whatever that means), because it's more convinient for them they bring whooping estimated bills at the month end, what else would you call that if not a rip off. They're making profits they're unworthy of and if people decide to take their own pound of flesh in some ways, I have no pity for them.

Meter bypassing is criminal and should be treated as such, or didn't you read where I said so? I would never indulge in or approved of criminality, but would I be the one to investigate and fish out bypassers for them?

And yes, I did read your post before replying.

ayobase:


Because some customers have compromised with the monitoring staff instead of reporting them.

and you cannot report them to efcc for fraud
you're not ready for justice
you think is comes on a platter of gold

ayobase:



You stop paying electric bill if you are not given the already paid for metre within 3 months.

SIMPLE.

do you know how much you can be charged within those 3 months?

I trust them too, they will inform you that your meter is ready but you'll have to clear your outstanding before they can come & install it

MIKOLOWISKA:
why are the discos lazy to catch by passers and fine them

This is becos there are no standing laws backing the Discos in doing that. Stiffer penalties like 10yrs imprisonment or more or life imprisonment needs to be declared by the FG by electricity theft of any magnitude.

The Discos hands are tied by the FG. Even the police to help execute the laws are compromised

ovibest:



This is becos there are no standing laws backing the Discos in doing that. Stiffer penalties like 10yrs imprisonment or more or life imprisonment needs to be declared by the FG by electricity theft of any magnitude.

The Discos hands are tied by the FG. Even the police to help execute the laws are compromised

which law again
when they were nepa
it was 50 k fine for bypassing

MIKOLOWISKA:

and you cannot report them to efcc for fraud
you're not ready for justice
you think is comes on a platter of gold

Who do you report when a staff comes to give you report of no bypass, whereas there are.

harveyspec:


do you know how much you can be charged within those 3 months?

I trust them too, they will inform you that your meter is ready but you'll have to clear your outstanding before they can come & install it

You have a valid point there.

I would have said you sue the Company, but Nigeria has been suffering from lawlessness and injustice over the years.

More reasons we take law into our hands.

SnowJay92:


No, the problem is not from Nigerians, when you give people avenues and justification to cheat, they will, it doesn't matter if it's America or Utopia. It's just human nature.
I have an analog metre that I paid heavily for, in not less than 5yrs the DISCO officials stop reading the meter, saying it's obsolete (whatever that means), because it's more convinient for them they bring whooping estimated bills at the month end, what else would you call that if not a rip off. They're making profits they're unworthy of and if people decide to take their own pound of flesh in some ways, I have no pity for them.

Meter bypassing is criminal and should be treated as such, or didn't you read where I said so? I would never indulge in or approved of criminality, but would I be the one to investigate and fish out bypassers for them?

And yes, I did read your post before replying.

I am suffering from the same as well.

Estimated bill every month upon my functioning metre which is not being read.

I decided to go report at their office with copies of the estimated bills when I was disconnected after about 2 months of not paying.

The Oga I met that day instructed them to fix my light immediately without reconnection fee, but I had to pay a reasonable and justifiable amount from my outstanding.


These problems have been accumulating right from the days of FG with poor infrastructures and heavy ATC&C losses, thus the need for the FG to sell the decayed system out since money is not being remitted, and they had to always pay salaries still.

These private companies didn't know how decayed the system is until operation started.

With policemen, you go into streets to disconnect due to nonpayment, but you are faced with miscreants who are ready to unleash beating and destruction - lawlessness.

Besides, the FG owns 40% shares and is represented on the Board by Bureau of Public Enterprises in the Company. I am talking about AEDC though.

I am very sure it will get better with time.

Meanwhile, despite the estimated billing, I only calculate and pay for what I know I consumed without compromising the parameters involved.

As they do say, "Buhari is cleaning the mess of PDP of the past 16 years, and it's not been easy", so also let's give these Companies time to clean up the power system.

Fashola is aware of all the happenings.

ayobase:


Who do you report when a staff comes to give you report of no bypass, whereas there are.

that's why you go into the field once in a while or you give rewards to snitches or monitor usage records. so many ways.if you're serious you will