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Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by malvisguy212: 2:39pm On Jul 27, 2016
Elohim1:

This Is The Same Reason Boko Boys Bomb You Guys Worshipping Other Gods From Ur Write Up It Seams U Are In Support Of Their Action??
their is one thread scholar800 open title " Grace transcend forgiveness" (if am not mistaken) go and read the thread please. Numbers 31 is not a commandment, it is a pronouncement of judgment on a rebellious generation. God grace supersede everything written in the old covenant, the wrath of God was fulfilled in the person of christ.
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by malvisguy212: 2:44pm On Jul 27, 2016
4kings:


'Blessed among Women': cos d word 'women' would be appropriate in that context rather than 'girls'.

Mary's trip: camel existed in those days.

And besides, this claim is included in Catholic encyclopedia and was made by ur early church fathers not atheist.
answer this question please; how can a 12 years old girl make that long distance trip ? Give scriptural reference were it say mary was 12 ? In fact provide were joseph age was mention ? Why dint you claim joseph was a teenager also ? Because all your effort was to prove muhammed was right to marry a 9 years old aisha.

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Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by Nobody: 2:45pm On Jul 27, 2016
malvisguy212:
their is one thread scholar800 open title " Grace transcend forgiveness" (if am not mistaken) go and read the thread please. Numbers 31 is not a commandment, it is a pronouncement of judgment on a rebellious generation. God grace supersede everything written in the old covenant, the wrath of God was fulfilled in the person of christ.
Are We Gonna Go Over This Again Now Its No Longer The Law Its Grace?? So It Wont Affect U If Ur Child Becomes Homosexual?? Cause We Are Saved Under Grace And Not The Law?? Answer This Honestly
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by malvisguy212: 2:49pm On Jul 27, 2016
Scholar8200:
indeed blessed among women, not girls!
this boys just love to attack the scripture, they don't get tire.
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by malvisguy212: 2:55pm On Jul 27, 2016
Elohim1:

Are We Gonna Go Over This Again Now Its No Longer The Law Its Grace?? So It Wont Affect U If Ur Child Becomes Homosexual?? Cause We Are Saved Under Grace And Not The Law?? Answer This Honestly
the issue of Grace is way beyond your imagination, I get bore when talking about grace, online to atheist.
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jul 27, 2016
malvisguy212:
the issue of Grace is way beyond your imagination, I get bore when talking about grace, online to atheist.
It Would Be Easier If U said U Cant Answer Just Like The Rest Of Them So Run Along
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by hopeful1andlord: 3:51pm On Jul 27, 2016
I've been banned more times today than my previous entire years on the internet put together


I must be hitting some nerve with one of the mods

Its a pity because I would've put those excuses up there in its place

Each time I reply those apologists on this thread asides the first one, I get banned, I even pasted my reply in a profanity detecting software and didn't find any profanity in my replies
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by hopeful1andlord: 3:54pm On Jul 27, 2016
Elohim1:

It Would Be Easier If U said U Cant Answer Just Like The Rest Of Them So Run Along
Their grace only affects their personal convictions, that's why you see some of them use "grace" to favour homos, they'll then put down that grace when its convenient like those Nairaland apologists that used old testament to put down bestiality but then turn around and bash the old testament when it commands them to do what they "personally" regard as evil
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by hopeful1andlord: 4:00pm On Jul 27, 2016
delishpot:
Jesus said God created one man and a woman for him but that the Jewish men were too greedy and stone headed that was why they marry and divorce at will.

Yes, the Jewish books even encourage rape of infants. Google it up. Those people we're just creating laws in Gods name to suit their selfish desires. Even Jesus complained about it.
I do not believe God will okay evil and wickedness. Jesus came to teach love and tried to open their eyes to the flaws in their reasoning. He even denied many of their so called laws and said their father is the devil cost they walk in darkness. That was why they hated Jesus. He seemed to be trying to change the so called laws their fore fathers gave them in the name of God.
The bibke comprises some books from the Jewish Torah(Old Testament) that was the original religion Jesus was born into. It also includes acct of Jesus' followers about their lives with Jeus and their lives after he was killed. The Bible was put together by a group of men who decided of the many religious records who,h should be added to the book and which should be removed. The Bible is a book brought together by people who wanted to politicise religion and bring all Christian groups into 1 body to be governed by 1 book.
In those days, after Christ there we're many factions of Christianity, some did not mind acknowledging the women in Jesus' ministry while some in keeping with the Jewish tradition(where women are to be hardly seen and hardly heard) felt the world would ridicule them if they included women in leadership positions.
The emperor who gave up after seeing that Christianity was a strong force to deal withafter(not withstanding the turtire and killings Christians kept on believing in their faith) decided to allow them practice under 1 banner. he even became a Christian himself. For politics sake.

You my good sir makes a lot of sense

I'm just here for those that regard the bible as their 100% morality and puts down anything the bible puts down

This is a followup thread

It actually started here

https://www.nairaland.com/3249529/christians-paedophilia-underage-marriage-right

You can read their replies and see how empty they are

You could see society actually dictates for them too even if only 1 (one) of them directly admitted to it, the others hinted towards it

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Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by Nobody: 4:12pm On Jul 27, 2016
hopeful1andlord:

Their grace only affects their personal convictions, that's why you see some of them use "grace" to favour homos, they'll then put down that grace when its convenient like those Nairaland apologists that used old testament to put down bestiality but then turn around and bash the old testament when it commands them to do what they "personally" regard as evil
What U Just Said Was Exactly What I Was Thinking U Will See This Christians Don't Agree With Themselves At All Today Is Using Old Testament To Call Others Sinners 2moro Is To Use New Testament To Preach Love & Grace And Then Do Away With The Law And Keep Switching And Switching
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by malvisguy212: 4:42pm On Jul 27, 2016
Elohim1:

It Would Be Easier If U said U Cant Answer Just Like The Rest Of Them So Run Along
alright.
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by 9inches(m): 9:31pm On Jul 27, 2016
kevoh:

OP is neither Christian nor Muslim. So this your Muhammad diversion boat won't sail angry


Of recent on this forum, Christians claim they derive their morals strictly from the Bible which gave rise to this thread. The story and verses quoted by the OP are in the Bible. No cherry picking please! Christians have everything to do with it! wink

CHRISTianity was derived from Christ. Christians live by the teachings of Christ. A Christian strives to do in any situation what Christ would do in that same situation.

Now, use this analogy for Islam and you will understand much better why moderate muslims wish to expunge the sira and hadith from the religion.

Jesus loves you kevoh
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by delishpot: 9:37pm On Jul 27, 2016
hopeful1andlord:


You my good sir makes a lot of sense

I'm just here for those that regard the bible as their 100% morality and puts down anything the bible puts down

This is a followup thread

It actually started here

https://www.nairaland.com/3249529/christians-paedophilia-underage-marriage-right

You can read their replies and see how empty they are

You could see society actually dictates for them too even if only 1 (one) of them directly admitted to it, the others hinted towards it



It is ignorance. Many Christians in Nigeria become ignorant and docile once you,add the word pastor, revrend, man of God, to any deed. They do not read or research religion. They believe to question evil commited in the name of God is to question God.
It is a shame 99% of Christians in Nigeria don't walk in the true path Jesus taught. The most vindictive set of people I have met in my life, are religious fanatics. No mercy, no forgiveness, no Care or love. I pray for them. I pray they walk their talk.
I believe in,Jesus Christ I believe in God, but to be honest, I would not commit any atrocity if an entity appears as God and says kill and destroy in my name.
I believe(my personal opinion) many atrocities committed in the old testament was due to some demonic entity posing as God John 8:40-45. Also, during their time, war was the order of the day and a God that could not protect it's people would soon be abandoned and it's priests sent away or worse still overthrown by a perceived greater God and it's priests killed. Those priests had to use wisdom to clear future enemies and also please the soldiers and reward them for their sacrifice. Thus the buying, rape, owning and sharring of spoils been permitted in the name of God.



Even Jesus himself denounced those Mathew 23

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Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by hopefulLandlord: 10:13am On Jul 28, 2016
delishpot:




It is ignorance. Many Christians in Nigeria become ignorant and docile once you,add the word pastor, revrend, man of God, to any deed. They do not read or research religion. They believe to question evil commited in the name of God is to question God.
It is a shame 99% of Christians in Nigeria don't walk in the true path Jesus taught. The most vindictive set of people I have met in my life, are religious fanatics. No mercy, no forgiveness, no Care or love. I pray for them. I pray they walk their talk.
I believe in,Jesus Christ I believe in God, but to be honest, I would not commit any atrocity if an entity appears as God and says kill and destroy in my name.
I believe(my personal opinion) many atrocities committed in the old testament was due to some demonic entity posing as God John 8:40-45. Also, during their time, war was the order of the day and a God that could not protect it's people would soon be abandoned and it's priests sent away or worse still overthrown by a perceived greater God and it's priests killed. Those priests had to use wisdom to clear future enemies and also please the soldiers and reward them for their sacrifice. Thus the buying, rape, owning and sharring of spoils been permitted in the name of God.



Even Jesus himself denounced those Mathew 23


Thank you once more bros

Its obvious what you regard as "atrocities" are things society considers it, meaning you gave society and conscience its due in what you term "morality" even though bible has much of the say


Thanks for being fair, much fairer than those militant Christians here

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Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by 4kings: 11:15am On Jul 28, 2016
malvisguy212:
answer this question please; how can a 12 years old girl make that long distance trip ? Give scriptural reference were it say mary was 12 ? In fact provide were joseph age was mention ? Why dint you claim joseph was a teenager also ? Because all your effort was to prove muhammed was right to marry a 9 years old aisha.

The verse didn't explicitly state if she went ALONE, she could have gone along with a convoy for all we know.
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by 4kings: 11:21am On Jul 28, 2016
damogul:



Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, 27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28 And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; [size=20pt]blessed are you among women!”[[/size]a]


The Angel never said blessed are you among little girls or little children as that would have been appropriate if she was a girl herself. But the Angel said among Women?


wom·an
ˈwo͝omən/
noun
an adult human female.

Adult in those days could also be used for those who are of marriageable age.
And I have already addressed the @bolded.
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by hopefulLandlord: 1:02am On Aug 07, 2016
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Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by hopefulLandlord: 10:21am On Aug 07, 2016
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Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by hopefulLandlord: 9:42am On Aug 21, 2016
4kings:

Adult in those days could also be used for those who are of marriageable age.
And I have already addressed the @bolded.

Interesting
Re: Does The Bible Sanction Pre-pubescent Marriages (child Marriage)? by hopefulLandlord: 2:32pm On Aug 28, 2016
hopefulLandlord:

Interesting
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