Okay, been learning PHP for some months and I can say I am getting better at it, logically. My design sulks because I design ike a programmer. Hehehehehe.. I am always more concerend about the logical aspect since I can always outsource the design aspect in the nearest future when I become a guru like y'all, better than those at MS, google self....

Well, I created a quiz web app; also did something like a mini phpMyAdmin, e.t.c... Even now, I am working on an app that works like FB, next is a NL-wannabe app.
Still sulk at php security/working with the superglobals and header informations..

... I am just layin a logically foundation for my skills before I go full blown into enterprise dev.

With the way some guys bash some languages, PHP for example, one would think you're learning a language that expired in 1904!

I just need experienced advice on my learnin curve. Most of you guys have expensive experience, some have had their minds well forged in the arena of codes, some of you guys have become Morpheous, some even claim to be Leo(remember the movie 'Matrix'?)... Hehehehe

i need advice on how to go about my learning curve. Which language to concentrate on and which shouldn't pay to much attention on e.t.c.

I am thinking like: after getting to level 6 of 10 on PHP(I rate myself at 4/10. You think that's too low, wait till you see my works on PHP, you'd suprise at my logic skills), I can introduce another language to my library and keep learning them both.
May be python, java or c#.. I don't even know which to start with, whether c# or java..

Make suggestions for me on my learning curve, and don't tell me to go start with a framework of a lang, that's bad foundation. I once regected an internship opportunity when the dude told me I was gonna start with zend framework, PHP, after scoring me 9/10 on php/mySql test.

Thank you!

If you are doing web backend, learn ruby. That's all!

I am not a guru.

Tochaigh:
If you are doing web backend, learn ruby. That's all!

I am not a guru.

Ruby? Okay.
Recommend any extremely good pdf book that'll take me from Rookie to Pro..

Err, i dont have anything to say yet. But you the quality of your work does not depend on PHP.

dhtml18:
Err, i dont have anything to say yet. But you the quality of your work does not depend on PHP.

i don't understand.

What makes a programmer great is not language. Take me for example, I write awesome codes in so many languages. Even if i migrate to Ruby this month, in the next couple of months, once i have gotten a good hang of it, I will still write awesome stuffs that some existing Ruby programmers will wow at.
What this means is that, a programming language is just a tool. What is most important is the ability of the programmer to think logically and use the tools to create great stuffs.

dhtml18:
What makes a programmer great is not language. Take me for example, I write awesome codes in so many languages. Even if i migrate to Ruby this month, in the next couple of months, once i have gotten a good hang of it, I will still write awesome stuffs that some existing Ruby programmers will wow at.
What this means is that, a programming language is just a tool. What is most important is the ability of the programmer to think logically and use the tools to create great stuffs.

we are on the same page then. This has always been my mantra..

Before going further, hope you undestand OOP concept of php?
If No, I'll suggest you go learn Java Sharperly.
You will be wondering, why Java?
You can easily master oop of any language if you can easily master java oop concept. Learn with Deitel Deitel Java how to program (1000+ pages and its a fat book) you will learn java, oop concept,+ computer science.
Then go back to complete your PHP oop
Thank me later

^^^that was what I did, and it worked wonders.

talk2hb1:
Before going further, hope you undestand OOP concept of php?
If No, I'll suggest you go learn Java Sharperly.
You will be wondering, why Java?
You can easily master oop of any language if you can easily master java oop concept. Learn with Deitel Deitel Java how to program (1000+ pages and its a fat book) you will learn java, oop concept,+ computer science.
Then go back to complete your PHP oop
Thank me later

thanks for the reply. The book's 'Deitel Deitel how to program'? I just wondering because of the repitition of name.. Thanks.

dhtml18:
^^^that was what I did, and it worked wonders.

I came accross a html5 book and saw some cool code. Does javascript now have some server-side capabilities? Like connect to MySQL db, e.t.c...?

paranorman:

thanks for the reply. The book's 'Deitel Deitel how to program'? I just wondering because of the repitition of name.. Thanks.

Paul Deitel, Harvey Deitel. Father and Son

paranorman:


I came accross a html5 book and saw some cool code. Does javascript now have some server-side capabilities? Like connect to MySQL db, e.t.c...?

Local Storage and co,
You can create local database on clients machine using sqlite

paranorman:


I came accross a html5 book and saw some cool code. Does javascript now have some server-side capabilities? Like connect to MySQL db, e.t.c...?

yes it does

Definitely python.

General purpose scripting language

Awesome community

A lot of good frameworks to choose from

Plays nicely with other languages

Can be used for a lot of things...mobile apps, Web apps, desktop apps, machine learning, data science, scripting for sysadmins....just name it

talk2hb1:

Local Storage and co,
You can create local database on clients machine using sqlite

okay, I'll investigate that. Thanks.

talk2hb1:

Paul Deitel, Harvey Deitel. Father and Son

thanks.

danidee10:
Definitely python.

General purpose scripting language

Awesome community

A lot of good frameworks to choose from

Plays nicely with other languages

Can be used for a lot of things...mobile apps, Web apps, desktop apps, machine learning, data science, scripting for sysadmins....just name it

really, I'l investigate...