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Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by shahydbinaliyu(m): 1:13pm On Apr 25, 2015
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Old Testament:
The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:
"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom
they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the
Gospel".
1.
MUHAMMAD (PBUH) PROPHESISED IN THE BOOK OF
DEUTERONOMY:
Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18
verse 18:
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like
unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall
speak unto them all that I shall command him."
The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh)
because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a
Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a
Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.
If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled,
then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after
Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea,
Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will
fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.
However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses
(pbuh):
i)
Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born
miraculously without any male intervention.
[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]
ii)
Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the
Bible did not marry nor had children.
iii)
Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive.
(4:157-158)
Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh).
Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail
and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh)
and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).
Words in the mouth:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations
he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim.
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like
unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak
unto them all that I shall command him."
[Deuteronomy 18:18]
iv)
Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict
capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this
world." (John 18:36).
v)
Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but
Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but
his own received him not."
iv)
Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus
(pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws.
(Mathew 5:17-18)
.
2.
It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19
"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my
words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."
3.
Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:
It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying,
Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."
When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying
Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned"
.
4.
prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old
testament:
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of
Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:
" Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa
Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my
beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is
added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have
even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as
"altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name
of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:
Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of
Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the
Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a
messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But
when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident
sorcery!' "
All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding
Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for
the Christians.
1.
John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."
2.
Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from
the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."
3.
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go
away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".
"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the
praised one" is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos . In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and
16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for
the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend
rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos . Jesus (pbuh)
actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy
for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these
prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will
the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time
of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus
(pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none
other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).
4.
Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them
now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of
himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he
will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none
other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)


All quotation is taken from KJV

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by sunkoye: 1:16pm On Apr 25, 2015
Give me a good standard of living. ..then we can discuss this sipping champagne.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by shahydbinaliyu(m): 1:17pm On Apr 25, 2015
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_in_the_Bible







visit that link also to satisfy your conscience

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by shahydbinaliyu(m): 1:18pm On Apr 25, 2015
sunkoye:
Give me a good standard of living.



tell that to Allah brother..



..then we can discuss this sipping champagne.

alcohol is forbidden.. we must not have anything at all to do with it

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by iliyande(m): 2:00pm On Apr 25, 2015
Stop this useless quotes. The Bible existed before your Muhammed, he is not a prophet and will never be. I am sorry. There is never Muhammad name in the Bible and will never be. Your Muhammed copy so many verses from the Bible.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by shahydbinaliyu(m): 2:30pm On Apr 25, 2015
iliyande:
Stop this useless quotes. The Bible existed before your Muhammed, he is not a prophet and will never be. I am sorry. There is never Muhammad name in the Bible and will never be. Your Muhammed copy so many verses from the Bible.


laughing hysterically... I can definitely see that you are hurt by the truth..

and concerning the time between Jesus and prophet Muhammad... didn't moses prophesied Jesus? how many years is between when moses left the earth and birth of Jesus? isn't there similarities between moses book and jesus book (Bible) isn't bible more explanatory and better than moses book? and yet you believe in moses abi.. i see no reason why you won't believe in Prophet Muhammad even though it's so glaring that he is prophesied In Bible and he's even mentioned by name In Bible..

i see no reason for you not to believe in Prophet Muhammad... i see no reason for you to believe In Quran...



read original Bible.. Aramaic Bible, Hebrew Bible and Greek Bible.. those are trusted Bible.. Aramaic is most reliable... want me to give you the link?

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by chiedu7: 2:44pm On Apr 25, 2015
How can you say Moses testified of Jesus when Jesus Himself said that Moses wrote of Him Jesus.

John 5:46
For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.


In fact when you read the bible you'll see that Jesus Himself said that anybody who denies He is the Son of God is Condemned already.

Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Jesus Himself said that Mohammed is CONDEMNED,
that's why Mohammed confesses and said He does not know what will happen to Him.

Mohammed knew he was not heaven bound and even warned fellow moslems too that they are not heaven bound.

Sura 46:9
"I am not something original among the messengers, NOR DO I KNOW WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH ME OR WITH YOU(MUSLIMS)."

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The bible describes people like mohammed that deny Jesus is the Son of God as ANTI-CHRIST


1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.


So according to the bible Mohammed is an Anti-Christ

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[size=14pt]Allah killed Muhammad for being a false prophet!!! [/size]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27LelsZuA_E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JPTTIzlzJU

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by dolphinheart(m): 4:02pm On Apr 25, 2015
You guys are verry funny.
You claim the book is adulterated
you claim the book is not correct

Yet you keep trying to associate urself with the book at any giving opportunity.

You see the word brothers, and you quickly remember the closeness of Isaac and Ishmael, over 400 years ago and hundreds of generations after!, I fear u o.

Read verse 2, 7 and 15 and tell everyone what you think brothers mean there , then use it to explain verse 18.

Imagine, so you guys have now accepted the songs of Solomon as an inspired book cus you find a hebrew word that is similar to an Arabic name, even when you guys know that the meaning of that word in hebrew is different in Arabic !
Una dey try !

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by iliyande(m): 4:02pm On Apr 25, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:



laughing hysterically... I can definitely see that you are hurt by the truth..

and concerning the time between Jesus and prophet Muhammad... didn't moses prophesied Jesus? how many years is between when moses left the earth and birth of Jesus? isn't there similarities between moses book and jesus book (Bible) isn't bible more explanatory and better than moses book? and yet you believe in moses abi.. i see no reason why you won't believe in Prophet Muhammad even though it's so glaring that he is prophesied In Bible and he's even mentioned by name In Bible..

i see no reason for you not to believe in Prophet Muhammad... i see no reason for you to believe In Quran...



read original Bible.. Aramaic Bible, Hebrew Bible and Greek Bible.. those are trusted Bible.. Aramaic is most reliable... want me to give you the link?

What baffles me the most is that Muslims want to impose Muhammed on Christianity either by violence or falsehood. No way, violence and peace are not friends at all. Sorry brother. [b][/b] believe what ever, I repeat that man is NOT a prophet and that book is not a holy book because isis, boko haram, alshabab, etc. Uses it to slaughter and commit crimes. My bible teaches love yours teaches violence, soooooo, bitter truth remain "we are not the same" go and look for Hindu maybe they may accept your teachings"

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by malvisguy212: 6:22pm On Apr 25, 2015
God bless you chiedu7.
Concerning song of solomon;
The Muslim attempt to find
"Muhammad" by name in the Song of
Solomon 5:16 is a prime example of
eisegesis, of reading something entirely
out of context into a verse of the Bible.
The Song of Solomon contains beautiful
and sensuous poetry expressing
romantic love between a young man (a
shepherd 1:7) and.a young woman (a
shepherdess 1:cool. A key theme is that
marriage is a gift from God to be founded
on commitment and loyalty.
The young lady is describing her
husband's body in 5:10-16. Is it likely
that while enamored of her husband,
she would suddenly speak of another
man in verse 16?
Even if some Jewish pronunciations of
one of the Hebrew words sounded
something like "Muhammed," that is
irrelevant because it is not the sound,
but the meaning of the word that is
significant.
In that romantic context, the meaning is
certainly not about a totally unknown
man at the time the Song of Solomon was
written (about 960 BC). Muhammad was
born hundreds of years later (AD
570-632)! He was a man of whom the
shepherdess could have had no
knowledge whatsoever. And if she did,
she would not have mentioned it while
making love to another.
Muslims who allege that the Song
mentions Muhammad would not want us
to introduce into their writings something
entirely foreign and then base major
teaching of the Trinity upon that literary
distortion. If they would not want Jews or
Christians to do that with Muslim
writings, they ought not do that to the
Song of Solomon.
If Muslims need this type of fallacious
argument, there must be serious
concerns about whether Muhammad is a
prophet, ...
How much better for them to trust Jesus
of Nazareth who fulfilled the roles of the
final prophet, the one and only priest
offering himself as the sacrifice for our
sins and the king and Lord of all as he
triumphed over sin, death and Satan and
ascended to heaven where he was given
all authority in heaven and earth
(Matthew 28:18-20). See the many lines
of evidence to support his claims, listed
in Matthew 11:2-14; 1 Corinthians 15:1-7;
Hebrews 2:1-4. Then read John 20:30-31.
http://www.answering-islam.org/bible/commentary/ss516/gl.html
Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by malvisguy212: 6:24pm On Apr 25, 2015
As a matter of fact, the song of solomon is not even a prophetic book, the name "God" was mention only one time. Very confused muslim.
Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by Emteebee(m): 7:40pm On Apr 25, 2015
iliyande:


What baffles me the most is that Muslims want to impose Muhammed on Christianity either by violence or falsehood. No way, violence and peace are not friends at all. Sorry brother. [b][/b] believe what ever, I repeat that man is NOT a prophet and that book is not a holy book because isis, boko haram, alshabab, etc. Uses it to slaughter and commit crimes. My bible teaches love yours teaches violence, soooooo, bitter truth remain "we are not the same" go and look for Hindu maybe they may accept your teachings"
Stop being a f.cking hypocrite. You think your religion is better than their won. Which bible teaches love? You think your own bible is holy. You think your bible teaches peace. If you want to f.ucking condemn another religion, then examine yours if there are flaws or not. Don't be evil and judge things one sided. Because you don't practice your religion right doest mean your religion doesn't teach disgusting things.


Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by iliyande(m): 9:30pm On Apr 25, 2015
Emteebee:

Stop being a f.cking hypocrite. You think your religion is better than their won. Which bible teaches love? You think your own bible is holy. You think your bible teaches peace. If you want to f.ucking condemn another religion, then examine yours if there are flaws or not. Don't be evil and judge things one sided. Because you don't practice your religion right doest mean your religion doesn't teach disgusting things.


Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)


You lack knowledge of the Bible. I don't believe in argument to prove my right, but what I want to put into your death-brain is that never in anywhere in the world Christians are practicing such quotes you ignorantly listed, because Christianity is a religion of freedom which believe in what is right which allows its followers to research on their own. I am not condemning theirs but I am uprithly rejecting being associated with theirs. Sorry brother, we are not thesame faith.
Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by Sanchez01: 9:32pm On Apr 25, 2015
Emteebee:

Stop being a f.cking hypocrite. You think your religion is better than their won. Which bible teaches love? You think your own bible is holy. You think your bible teaches peace. If you want to f.ucking condemn another religion, then examine yours if there are flaws or not. Don't be evil and judge things one sided. Because you don't practice your religion right doest mean your religion doesn't teach disgusting things.


Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

[b]Unfortunately, most of you only see the words in the Bible without understanding them. You were so swift in pointing to the core aspects of the manifestations of Law without verifying whom they were meant for. Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy are the main carriers of the commandments of Law during Moses' era. And since Moses represented the Law, the people were handed some laws to guide and lead them aright. The passages you mentioned DO NOT refer to unbelievers but believers, the Chosen of God (Israelites).

While Christ came with the message of Grace, the many punishments for sins were neglected because Christ made them irrelevant. As Christians, we don't use the aforementioned books as a standard because it WAS designed and laid down for the then people of Israel whom God delivered from Egypt.

Christ is our standard and you would never read or find Christ asking His followers to behead, kill or maim anyone who refuses to acknowledge Him as the Son of God. Christ is the standard of every Christian. Moses was only a vessel used by God and the Laws were only applicable to the Israel of then.
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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by Ovacoma: 10:12pm On Apr 25, 2015
@ op. God will deliver you from falsehood. Will the Holy Ghost be engaging humans in physical war, would the Holy Ghost be sleeping with women? Beheading Jews? Be lusting after women? Will the Holy Ghost be attacking people on the way and be killing them to steal their goods (highway robbery)? . Check this out Mr lier, John 14:17, Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be with you. John 14: 26, says but the Comforter WHICH IS THE HOLY GHOST, Whom the father will send in my name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever i have said unto you. Acts 1: 8.but ye shall receive power after, after that the HOLY GHOST is come upon you,..... Jesus speaks in all these places. Stop Lying and repent, because the Holy Ghost would not be killing people and raping children, taking people wives! Holy Spirit will not say Jesus is not the son of God, since whoever says that is damned according to Jesus. Holy Ghost abides forever, cannot be poisoned by a girl. Please fear God!!
Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by Emteebee(m): 10:23pm On Apr 25, 2015
iliyande:


You lack knowledge of the Bible. I don't believe in argument to prove my right, but what I want to put into your death-brain is that never in anywhere in the world Christians are practicing such quotes you ignorantly listed, because Christianity is a religion of freedom which believe in what is right which allows its followers to research on their own. I am not condemning theirs but I am uprithly rejecting being associated with theirs. Sorry brother, we are not thesame faith.

Let me reply like this:
- you lack knowledge of the bible well, guess what, that's the same response every foolish Christian gives when confronted with the this nasty things in their so called "holy book".

- i don't believe in an argument to prove my right I didn't say you should start up an argument, did I? I didn't even write that to start up an argument because I have no time to be discussing something some crazy dude dreamt off 2000 years ago, that's if he had actually existed. What I want you to know is your religion is no different from theirs, it's all rubbish and made up shit, and to be honest yours is even worse.

-but what I want to put in your death-brain is that never in anywhere in the word Christians are practicing such quotes you ignorantly listed[b] firstly, pls I would like you to tell between you and me who has a dead brain, is it I, who believe in my freedom to live under no jurisdiction of any fairytale in the sky or you who believe a non- sterilized b.astard born without a father born 2000 years ago is your God who will take you to heaven?
Secondly; you said no where in world do Christians practice this things ? because the whole religion make absolutely no sense to you guys also. You cherry pick the sweet things from that fits in to your life and throw away the others. Rulings that where to be carried out by you leader, are not because you don't like them. And that's why someone like Adolf hitler, serial killers like Ted bundy will kill millions and 10s of people respectively and prior to their death accept your "lord" and then someone will tell me that they are both going to heaven. Really? And what about the millions dead ? Died all in vain. While people like bill gates, an atheist who live a humble and virtuous life, donating millions to education, global health and development will be sent to hell.
Writing this shit is even just annoying me. Your God needs learn how to be a just God and be not be dumb big for nothing God.
Tired of typing
Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by Emteebee(m): 11:49pm On Apr 25, 2015
Sanchez01:

[b]Unfortunately, most of you only see the words in the Bible without understanding them. You were so swift in pointing to the core aspects of the manifestations of Law without verifying whom they were meant for. Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy are the main carriers of the commandments of Law during Moses' era. And since Moses represented the Law, the people were handed some laws to guide and lead them aright. The passages you mentioned DO NOT refer to unbelievers but believers, the Chosen of God (Israelites).

While Christ came with the message of Grace, the many punishments for sins were neglected because Christ made them irrelevant. As Christians, we don't use the aforementioned books as a standard because it WAS designed and laid down for the then people of Israel whom God delivered from Egypt.

Christ is our standard and you would never read or find Christ asking His followers to behead, kill or maim anyone who refuses to acknowledge Him as the Son of God. Christ is the standard of every Christian. Moses was only a vessel used by God and the Laws were only applicable to the Israel of then.
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Nice try. You sir, just used the bullshit scapegoat which all Christians on the authority of your pastors use Inorder to ignore the bizarre laws and attrocites in your bible and that which it promotes., Inorder to show God in a kinder way. O.k sir, let me show some verses which shows that the Old Testiment is not to be ignored. I would like to know your response. Thank you.

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

3b) "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

3c) "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

4) Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)

5) Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)

6) Jesus has a punishment even worse than his father concerning adultery: God said the act of adultery was punishable by death. Jesus says looking with lust is the same thing and you should gouge your eye out, better a part, than the whole. The punishment under Jesus is an eternity in Hell. (Matthew 5:27)

7) Peter says that all slaves should “be subject to [their] masters with all fear,” to the bad and cruel as well as the “good and gentle.” This is merely an echo of the same slavery commands in the Old Testament. 1 Peter 2:18

8. Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).

9) “...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35
There you have it.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by Emteebee(m): 12:39am On Apr 26, 2015
Ovacoma:
@ op. God will deliver you from falsehood. Will the Holy Ghost be engaging humans in physical war, would the Holy Ghost be sleeping with women? Beheading Jews? Be lusting after women? Will the Holy Ghost be attacking people on the way and be killing them to steal their goods (highway robbery)? . Check this out Mr lier, John 14:17, Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be with you. John 14: 26, says but the Comforter WHICH IS THE HOLY GHOST, Whom the father will send in my name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever i have said unto you. Acts 1: 8.but ye shall receive power after, after that the HOLY GHOST is come upon you,..... Jesus speaks in all these places. Stop Lying and repent, because the Holy Ghost would not be killing people and raping children, taking people wives! Holy Spirit will not say Jesus is not the son of God, since whoever says that is damned according to Jesus. Holy Ghost abides forever, cannot be poisoned by a girl. Please fear God!!
Shut up there,
John 16:12-15
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Please, tell one new thing (I know they are many) but just one new thing which the Holy Ghost has brought to you in the last 2000 years which jesus couldn't say at that time becuase they wouldn't bear it. {just one}. Many churches claim to have Holy Spirit, is this Holy Spirit shy, why isn't the Holy Ghost bringing solutions to problems. If he ,has please state one.

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself;
Please, tell me, if the Holy Ghost is part of the God-head why would he have to wait to be told something. If he is part of the God-head, he should be able to take decisions instantly.unless of course if one God would have to ask for permission from the other.

but whatsoever he shall hear,
Please explain to me, since they are co-eternal and three in one. why would jesus make this statement.? The Holy Ghost should know what going one. God and Jesus should not be having a meeting while Holy Ghost doesn't know what's going on.

that shall he speak:
Please explain to me how the holy ghost has talked or been talking to you or anybody or the churches.since everyone now claims to have the Holy Ghost, pls tell how he speaks to you guys.

and he will shew you things to come.
Please explain what the Holy Ghost has shown that will come. Something new or something coming in future.im sure you've been baptized and you've received you Holy Ghost. Pls share with me what the holy has told you about things to come.


14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Please explain to me how the holy will glorify jesus who is also part of the God-head also. Even if it's possible, please explain to me how a Holy Ghost will glorify Jesus.

15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
If the Holy Ghost is part of the God- head. Please explain to me why Jesus only mentioned only himslef and the father excluding the Holy Ghost. And also please explain why the Holy Ghost will have take something which it also owns as part of the God head. Since the Holy Ghost is part of the God-head, it should also own what God and Jesus both have. He doesn't need to borrow.

John 16:7
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Please explain to me, looking at the above verse, it means that Jesus has to go first before the Holy Ghost will come. Which means the Holy Ghost wasn't present at that time.
This doesn't even make sense because in Luke 1:41 it tells us that elizerbeth had the Holy Ghost before Jesus was born, and then John the baptist had the Holy Ghost from his mother's womb.
Don't forget, this Holy Ghost was also helping Jesus and his ministry, he was also helping the deciples. If you know the bible, you will know that before Jesus and the deciples parted, Jesus said "receive yee the Holy Ghost and the received it at the moment.
Please explain to me which Holy Ghost was Jesus talking about since elizerbeth, John the baptist and the deciples seems to have gotten the Holy Ghost.
Pls reply.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by Empiree: 12:56am On Apr 26, 2015
Sanchez01:

[b]Unfortunately, most of you only see the words in the Bible without understanding them. You were so swift in pointing to the core aspects of the manifestations of Law without verifying whom they were meant for. Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy are the main carriers of the commandments of Law during Moses' era. And since Moses represented the Law, the people were handed some laws to guide and lead them aright. The passages you mentioned DO NOT refer to unbelievers but believers, the Chosen of God (Israelites).

While Christ came with the message of Grace, the many punishments for sins were neglected because Christ made them irrelevant. As Christians, we don't use the aforementioned books as a standard because it WAS designed and laid down for the then people of Israel whom God delivered from Egypt.

Christ is our standard and you would never read or find Christ asking His followers to behead, kill or maim anyone who refuses to acknowledge Him as the Son of God. Christ is the standard of every Christian. Moses was only a vessel used by God and the Laws were only applicable to the Israel of then.
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Everything you said up there is empty. You have no scriptural evidence to back your point. Emteebee is very correct. He backed his points with evidences.

I dealt with similar case before. You are basically saying Christianity is a law free religion. This is false, sir. If Christians are to apply those laws, they would look crazier than Muslims. Don't run away from your laws. The Law Stands

The LAWS of the BIBLE WILL STOP BLACK AND HISPANIC VIOLENCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak2WlWYHcqM
If Christians abide by their law, world will be a better place

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by babajero(m): 1:41am On Apr 26, 2015
When Jesus said He came to fulfil the law he was not talking about the Israelites law they made for themself that guide them, but rather the law which I AM THAT I AM gave to Moses, in the Ten Commandment there was no where it was written that if you commit a particular crime you will be stoned or beheaded, it was the Israelites that put a purnishment for a crime commited in order to check their excesses and not God.
Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by Emteebee(m): 6:01am On Apr 26, 2015
babajero:
When Jesus said He came to fulfil the law he was not talking about the Israelites law they made for themself that guide them, but rather the law which I AM THAT I AM gave to Moses, in the Ten Commandment there was no where it was written that if you commit a particular crime you will be stoned or beheaded, it was the Israelites that put a purnishment for a crime commited in order to check their excesses and not God.
When Jesus said He came to fulfil the law he was not talking about the Israelites law they made for themself that guide them,
You are one ignorant Christian, so you think the Jews made laws for themselves ? LOL

in the Ten Commandment there was no where it was written that if you commit a particular crime you will be stoned or beheaded
That's why I said you Christians are a bunch of hypocrites. You don't read your bible but you make the loudest noise. Well I don't have time to be writing all the Ten Commandments and their punishments, instead I will just give you one. The first commandment;

1st. Commandment : Exodus 20:3 “Thou shalt have no other gods before me”. Old Testament punishment - Deuteronomy 17:1-5 “And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heavens, which I have not commanded. Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing and shalt stone them with stones,till they die”. Deuteronomy 13:6-10, “If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is of thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. Thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God." Exodus 22:20 “He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed”. New Testament punishment - Mark 16:16 “He that believeth not, shall be damned”.

, it was the Israelites that put a purnishment for a crime commited in order to check their excesses and not God.
This is the dumbest statement I've heard this year. Thanks to you.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by shahydbinaliyu(m): 6:37am On Apr 26, 2015
iliyande:


What baffles me the most is that Muslims want to impose Muhammed on Christianity either by violence or falsehood. No way, violence and peace are not friends at all. Sorry brother. [b][/b] believe what ever, I repeat that man is NOT a prophet and that book is not a holy book because isis, boko haram, alshabab, etc. Uses it to slaughter and commit crimes. My bible teaches love yours teaches violence, soooooo, bitter truth remain "we are not the same" go and look for Hindu maybe they may accept your teachings"


impose? you no see Prophet Muhammad inside original bible? .. you think islam is violence? definitely you know nothing about your fake Bible.. .. tell me where Jesus said he's not a prophet.... where in quran do you see violence preaching? you know absolutely nothing about Bible and quran...

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by Rilwayne001: 9:26am On Apr 26, 2015
What a very nice explanation by bro Emteebee. JzhK.

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by iliyande(m): 9:37am On Apr 26, 2015
Got this for you.

Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by iliyande(m): 9:44am On Apr 26, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:



impose? you no see Prophet Muhammad inside original bible? .. you think islam is violence? definitely you know nothing about your fake Bible.. .. tell me where Jesus said he's not a prophet.... where in quran do you see violence preaching? you know absolutely nothing about Bible and quran...



I see that you are trying hard include your Muhammed shocked in our Bible by branding it fake. But you are a lier JESUS the one and only. Please tell that ignorant almajiris. Even my son cannot accept that. I WILL REPEAT muhammed is NOT in the Bible. Sorry for this truth, never you neither your prophet will include it. Muslims tried it not today but they failed.
Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by shahydbinaliyu(m): 10:03am On Apr 26, 2015
iliyande:


I see that you are trying hard include your Muhammed shocked in our Bible by branding it fake. But you are a lier JESUS the one and only. Please tell that ignorant almajiris. Even my son cannot accept that. I WILL REPEAT muhammed is NOT in the Bible. Sorry for this truth, never you neither your prophet will include it. Muslims tried it not today but they failed.



laughing.... you could say your Bible.. your versioned Bible.. your fake Bible... your intentionally misinterpreted Bible....

my bible, my original Bible .. his name is in there... your English fools who intentionally interpreted Prophet Muhammad name as all together lovely..

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by iliyande(m): 10:18am On Apr 26, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:




laughing.... you could say your Bible.. your versioned Bible.. your fake Bible... your intentionally misinterpreted Bible....

my bible, my original Bible .. his name is in there... your English fools who intentionally interpreted Prophet Muhammad name as all together lovely..

This guy is making me laugh this morning. Nah by force? Why not worship your allah, me I worship my God. So you need your Muhammed included? Maybe you check Hindu book, NOT BIBLE. your aggressiveness will not make it to be included.
Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by shahydbinaliyu(m): 10:26am On Apr 26, 2015
iliyande:


This guy is making me laugh this morning. Nah by force? Why not worship your allah, me I worship my God. So you need your Muhammed included? Maybe you check Hindu book, NOT BIBLE. your aggressiveness will not make it to be included.



not forcing you oooooo... am just telling you the truth.. it's your choice to accept or refuse

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Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by iliyande(m): 10:29am On Apr 26, 2015
shahydbinaliyu:




not forcing you oooooo... am just telling you the truth.. it's your choice to accept or refuse

REALLY? OK I REFUSED. We DON'T worship the same God
Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by babajero(m): 11:24am On Apr 26, 2015
Emteebee:

When Jesus said He came to fulfil the law he was not talking about the Israelites law they made for themself that guide them,
You are one ignorant Christian, so you think the Jews made laws for themselves ? LOL

in the Ten Commandment there was no where it was written that if you commit a particular crime you will be stoned or beheaded
That's why I said you Christians are a bunch of hypocrites. You don't read your bible but you make the loudest noise. Well I don't have time to be writing all the Ten Commandments and their punishments, instead I will just give you one. The first commandment;

1st. Commandment : Exodus 20:3 “Thou shalt have no other gods before me”. Old Testament punishment - Deuteronomy 17:1-5 “And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heavens, which I have not commanded. Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing and shalt stone them with stones,till they die”. Deuteronomy 13:6-10, “If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is of thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. Thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God." Exodus 22:20 “He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed”. New Testament punishment - Mark 16:16 “He that believeth not, shall be damned”.

, it was the Israelites that put a purnishment for a crime commited in order to check their excesses and not God.
This is the dumbest statement I've heard this year. Thanks to you.
Jesus came to fulfil Elohim's commandment and not law of moses which guide the children of israel, eg Nigeria has its constitution and still they brougght sharia law, for me as a nigerian am guided by the constitution but the muslims believe the constitution is not good enough so they use sharia to guide themself. Jehovah's law abounds in love but the law of Moses abounds in retribution and punishment. But thank God you have said it all "mark 16:16" it is left for you to decide your fate as for me I have decided mine and I will not respond to you again because light and darkness have nothing in common
Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by iliyande(m): 11:38am On Apr 26, 2015
babajero:
Jesus came to fulfil Elohim's commandment and not law of moses which guide the children of israel, eg Nigeria has its constitution and still they brougght sharia law, for me as a nigerian am guided by the constitution but the muslims believe the constitution is not good enough so they use sharia to guide themself. Jehovah's law abounds in love but the law of Moses abounds in retribution and punishment. But thank God you have said it all "mark 16:16" it is left for you to decide your fate as for me I have decided mine and I will not respond to you again because light and darkness have nothing in common
Thanks, we chose to serve the Almighty God.
Re: Prophet Muhammad Prophesied In Bible by shahydbinaliyu(m): 1:32pm On Apr 26, 2015
iliyande:


REALLY? OK I REFUSED. We DON'T worship the same God


ofcourse we don't... some of you worship Jesus, some worship Trinity, most were led astray by Paul...

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