wirinet:


Fallacy. There is no evidence whatsoever that the God you adopted from your slavemasters or colonial masters created anybody.
My life is mine and mine only, when I die, I die and my body is given up to the earth to be raw materials for other lives.

Okay, of what good is it when you've spent your life on earth fighting God, die only to be used as plant manure to grow trees, those trees are cut and used to make sheets of paper, and Bible verses printed on such paper.
You've lost before you even started.

winner01:
Okay, of what good is it when you've spent your life on earth fighting God, die only to be used as plant manure to grow trees, those trees are cut and used to make sheets of paper, and Bible verses printed on such paper.
You've lost before you even started.

I am not fighting any God - whether Yahweh, Jesus, Allah, Krishna, Zeus, etc., I have never believed in any of them. I was lucky to have a very peculiar early childhood, I was not introduced to Christianity until I was about 7 years old, and by then it did not make sense to me. So how can you say I was angry at any God?

If you understand the way the universe works, you will realize that the universe is a perfect recycler, materials from previous objects are used to create new ones, likewise, materials from previous lives are raw materials for new lives.

wirinet:

I am not fighting any God - whether Yahweh, Jesus, Allah, Krishna, Zeus, etc., I have never believed in any of them. I was lucky to have a very peculiar early childhood, I was not introduced to Christianity until I was about 7 years old, and by then it did not make sense to me. So how can you say I was angry at any God?

If you understand the way the universe works, you will realize that the universe is a perfect recycler, materials from previous objects are used to create new ones, likewise, materials from previous lives are raw materials for new lives.

Okay, and the system created itself??

winner01:
Okay, and the system created itself??

Yes, the same way your God created himself.

wirinet:


Fallacy. There is no evidence whatsoever that the God you adopted from your slavemasters or colonial masters created anybody.
My life is mine and mine only, when I die, I die and my body is given up to the earth to be raw materials for other lives.

This new excuse of God created life and so have the right to take life or commit genocide is a highly dangerous doctrine. As God himself cannot come down and take lives he is unhappy with, his servants or messengers can claim to have instructions to take the lives on his behalf and no one can fault them. A crazy ruler can claims to act on behalf of God can commit genocide on specific people claiming he has instructions from the manufacturer of life, who demands a recall.

My thoughts exactly, that doctrine leads to a slippery slope.

wirinet:

Yes, the same way your God created himself.

Did time and space begin with the universe?

winner01:
Did time and space begin with the universe?

Yes time and space began with the universe, or put in another way, time and space are properties of the universe.
What is your definition of time?