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Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by DesChyko: 5:59pm On Aug 17, 2016
OAUTemitayo:
Condemning the actions of NDA doesn't mean that the discovery of oil in another place should not be celebrated.
With effective management of the funds accruing from the oil derivation the oil could turn out to be a blessing reverse of which is the case in the Niger Delta.

Quoted out of context again after explaining the premiss carefully. undecided
I understand you and your direction. It just doesn't tally with what I've maintained so far. Perhaps we should leave it at that.
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by jpphilips(m): 6:21pm On Aug 17, 2016
It could've been a better news if Lagos developed the said oil blocks, that way they will be entitled to 40% , the id!ots in the creek should continue bombing.

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Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by arsenic33(m): 6:32pm On Aug 17, 2016
Lagos state suppose get more oil wells. There are states in Nigeria with more than a thousand oil well.
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by OAUTemitayo: 6:34pm On Aug 17, 2016
DesChyko:


Quoted out of context again after explaining the premiss carefully. undecided
I understand you and your direction. It just doesn't tally with what I've maintained so far. Perhaps we should leave it at that.
Okay
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by muller101(m): 6:39pm On Aug 17, 2016
Bolustic:
Lagos and SW indigenes must be considered first for employment before other Nigerians.

If catchment areas is applicable for universities and unity schools admissions, it must be allowed for oil producing areas too.

Anyone who doesn't believe in Nigeria particularly those who want to secede MUST not be given privileges that accrue to those who want to stay.
don't reason like this pls. Any body can work there if u are qualified.

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Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by codemaniacs: 6:43pm On Aug 17, 2016
jpphilips:
It could've been a better news if Lagos developed the said oil blocks, that way they will be entitled to 40% , the id!ots in the creek should continue bombing.

its only a matter of time before they turn lagos to syria.... teenubu should have rejected any offer to build refinery in lagos, he should have told the fola guy to keep quiet... honestly, the security situation of lagos in the coming years may end up been very bad.

they have already practiced in Ikorodu.... the SW needs to be watchful and protective, cos the f:ulani 9ja army will obey the colonial masters..

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Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by socrates007: 6:45pm On Aug 17, 2016
mamabomboy:
Rubbish. Lagos southwasted has no oil wells. All this daylight robbery will blow up in their faces soon enough.
Bad belle.It for the common good of us all.if it will take care of some of our problem then good.i wish oil is discovered all tru.there is too much hunger in the land.
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by gabbytabby: 6:46pm On Aug 17, 2016
Jealousy jealousy.

Without 13percent na ogoro them dey drink.
With 13percent na still ogoro for one hand and gun for the other.


I bet KenSaroWiwa is turning in his grave and wondering is this what I died for.

Soon lagos will show you what to do with 13percent.

Ambode is working.

mamabomboy:
Rubbish. Lagos southwasted has no oil wells. All this daylight robbery will blow up in their faces soon enough.

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Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by arantess: 7:32pm On Aug 17, 2016
YourNemesis:
Oilfield 1

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Oilfield 2



Up Lagos!
God Bless South West!
We have everything it takes!
Our future looks bright. cheesy

All haters go quench!
Small pikin dey worry you....what is the value of oil currently...only 4 wells and we no hear word again. So without the oil your future wasn't bright abi?
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by Flets: 7:35pm On Aug 17, 2016
ericsmith:


nigeria does nt nid changed form of governance naa we d citizens nid to restructure our mindset n reasonin. westerners believe in there hustle,,no time to drop out of school n b chantin our oyel...if americans n nigerians swap country 2day.. naija wil develop yle america we end up recessed

In practical terms, how do you restructure the minds of a people?
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by YourNemesis: 7:37pm On Aug 17, 2016
arantess:

Small pikin dey worry you....what is the value of oil currently...only 4 wells and we no hear word again. So without the oil your future wasn't bright abi?

It was bright, but the Oil made it even brighter.
Nw, an independent Oduduwa republic does not have to import refined oil to meet its domestic needs. Na you pikin dey worry.

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Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by Rexyl(m): 7:46pm On Aug 17, 2016
congrats to Lagos State
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by attackgat: 8:01pm On Aug 17, 2016
Deadlytruth:


It is a known fact that a person who sets a bad precedent is always guiltier than all others who later copied him. Ironsi was warned that once the purse is centralized it would become very difficult and almost impossible to reverse it as those who would later have a taste of a centralized purse would not want to let go again. That is where we are today. Even GEJ whose region is most disadvantaged by the centralized purse was so carried away on seeing its size and attractiveness that he too began to resist restructuring. Certain precedents are better not set.

But the centralisation of Government was reversed. The Aburi agreement completely reversed it. It was signed and sealed. It was when Gowon now abolished the regions, created States and introduced full unitary system that Ojukwu retaliated by declaring Biafra. Those who accuse Ironsi of introducing unitary system are the same people who helped the North fight Ojukwu in other to keep the unitary system from being changed.
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by blaqiz: 8:31pm On Aug 17, 2016
am not surprised
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by arantess: 8:32pm On Aug 17, 2016
YourNemesis:


It was bright, but the Oil made it even brighter.
Nw, an independent Oduduwa republic does not have to import refined oil to meet its domestic needs. Na you pikin dey worry.
Oh...no more one Nigeria suddenly
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by globe16: 8:43pm On Aug 17, 2016
Bolustic:
Lagos and SW indigenes must be considered first for employment before other Nigerians.

If catchment areas is applicable for universities and unity schools admissions, it must be allowed for oil producing areas too.

Anyone who doesn't believe in Nigeria particularly those who want to secede MUST not be given privileges that accrue to those who want to stay.
why not we just say let Lagos manage all its oil wealth with other south west states only while Lagos will be cut off from oil elsewhere in the Niger Delta and SE? Thats a better deal right?.. yeye! btw, Lagos has no oil, let ambode keep deceiving himself
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by MamaletASO: 11:17pm On Aug 17, 2016
Lagos can never be Niger delta.. Lagos belongs to nobody... though nah Yoruba land.. but Lagos will alwaz be LAGOS..

Lagos.! Eko Oni baje ooo!!
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by godwinnsikak: 4:02am On Aug 18, 2016
oil pit
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by Deadlytruth(m): 4:37am On Aug 18, 2016
attackgat:


But the centralisation of Government was reversed. The Aburi agreement completely reversed it. It was signed and sealed. It was when Gowon now abolished the regions, created States and introduced full unitary system that Ojukwu retaliated by declaring Biafra. Those who accuse Ironsi of introducing unitary system are the same people who helped the North fight Ojukwu in other to keep the unitary system from being changed.

Yes the centralization was first reversed by Gowon with his decree 56 which overrode Ironsi's decree 34 (Unification Decree). In fact as against Ironsi's claim that the only way military men can govern is by centralization of power Gowon (a military man too) restored the regions 100% back to status quo ante and ran them like that for 11 months until Ojukwu declared Biafra. In order to curtail Ojukwu Gowon had to break down the Regions into states without real powers much.......a re-adjustment slightly towards unitary system. Had Ojukwu not declared Biafra at all Gowon would have left the regions intact after returning them back to their pre-Ironsi status. Ojukwu's demand at Aburi Accord was for pure confederacy while the pre-Ironsi arrangement which was working perfectly was just federalism. The rest Nigerians wanted to stay put with that federalism which Gowon had already restored and so were not prepared to freshly start experimenting with confederacy which Ojukwu now wanted.
And just 18 months before Ojukwu made those demands for a weaker centre at Aburi he himself had already assisted Ironsi in the dismantling of the perfectly working federal arrangement and replacing it with unitary system.

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Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by Deadlytruth(m): 5:39am On Aug 18, 2016
In summary we can put the narrative this way:
Nigeria from independence was operating on a federal system by which the federating units were moderately (not extremely) stronger than the centre, and it was working fine to everyone's satisfaction. But just six years into it Ironsi and Ojukwu tried to convince Nigerians that an extremely stronger centre would even work better. Nigerians however rejected that proposal. But they (Ironsi and Ojukwu) stubbornly went ahead to forcefully implement the proposal against the larger national wish and interest. The new system now in place simply led to anarchy which took even Ironsi's life.
At this point it became crystal clear to Ojukwu that an extremely strong centre which he and Ironsi forcefully put in place against genuine national interest did not really work as they thought it would.
The next step was now how to reverse the blunder. While the rest Nigerians sought a reversal exactly to the initially working system where the regions were just moderately stronger than the centre, Ojukwu now wanted it reversed to an extremely weak and completely paralysed centre controlled by extremely strong regions. Nigerians rightly rejected it again since the status quo ante they wanted a reversal to was not a completely paralysed centre being controlled by omnipotent regions but the initial moderate arrangement. Unitary system and confederacy are both vertical arrangements. In unitary system the centre sits on top of the federating units while in confederacy the federating units sit atop the centre. The other Nigerians wanted neither of these but wanted a horizontal arrangement which is federalism.

As Wheare put it, "The fundamental and
distinguishing characteristic of a federal
system is that neither the central nor the
regional governments are subordinate to
each other, but rather, the two are co-
ordinate and independent." In short, in a
federal system, there is no hierarchy of
authorities, with the central government
sitting on top of the others. All governments have a horizontal relationship with each other.

Nwabueze has identified the following
additional characteristics in a federal
system: The power sharing arrangement should not place such a preponderance of power in the hands of either the national or regional government to make it so
powerful that it is able to bend the will of the others to its own.
Federalism presupposes that the national
and regional governments should stand
to each other in a relation of meaningful
independence resting upon a balanced
division of powers and resources. Each
must have powers and resources
sufficient to support the structure of a
functioning government, able to stand on
its own against the other. From the separate and autonomous existence of each government and the plenary character of its powers within the sphere assigned to it, by the constitution,
flows the doctrine that the exercise of
these powers is not to be impeded,
obstructed or otherwise interfered with by
the other government, acting within its
powers.
Ojukwu demanded two contrasting vertical arrangements of unitary system and confederacy at two different times while the other Nigerians stood consistently for the horizontal and balanced arrangement. That was the difference.

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Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by Obiwiz(m): 6:48am On Aug 18, 2016
Bolustic:
Lagos and SW indigenes must be considered first for employment before other Nigerians.

If catchment areas is applicable for universities and unity schools admissions, it must be allowed for oil producing areas too.

Anyone who doesn't believe in Nigeria particularly those who want to secede MUST not be given privileges that accrue to those who want to stay.
Did sw indigenes get employment in ExxonMobil, spdc, chevron, Schlumberger etc before now?
Did you call for catchment area implementation for oil producing areas before now?
You see why dem dey call una parasites and masters of treachery?
Anyways, I expect you people to at least have some guts to support the self-determination struggle now dat God has given you the petroleum dat made u attempt genocide decades ago.
Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by geraob1: 9:06am On Aug 18, 2016
Deadlytruth:


So correct and factual. In fact at independence we were practising true fiscal federalism by which each region summarily retained 75% of its own revenue and remitted only 25% to the centre. By that arrangement each region was developing at its own pace and was free to utilize its funds to invest in building seaports, airports, industries, universities, etc.
However it was an Igbo man called Aguyi Ironsi that came and, in the name of seeking "national unity" dismantled true federalism thus abolished the regional structure and replacing it with unitary system which led to a chain of reactions that ended up redirecting all powers and revenues to the centre (Lagos) resulting in economic strangulation and stunted growth of all other parts of the country for 50 years now and still counting.

Bros I attest to what you hav said, the tn that annoys me the most is y development shd b politicized. The so called ohaneze, I dnt know what they even do same with the SE senators etc.
Development is something that shd b encouraged, but cos of unnecessary prejudice andsm BS wey no suppose de equation, we still find ourselves in this quagmire. The black man is really smtn else. As for Ironsi, wherever he is, I hope he sees his "good works"...

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Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by Bhol28: 10:51am On Aug 18, 2016
Freetech:


But why are you so pained. Dont end up killing yourself on top of matter that does not directly concern you. Continue your support for NDA destroying their future and land while Lagos continue to make giant stride developing their state. The end will speak loud for all to hear. No harm intended though.
.I Pray they listen to this type of wisdom filled advise.While other regions have just STARTED detecting and tapping into oil they should continue destroying their own facilities just becos they believe NA OUR OYELLI. Lagos without oil revenue have been seriously developing in all aspects and with all the OYEL income they,ve been collecting for ages nothing to show,they are all far behind Lagos.Time will tell who will suffer all the damages they,ve been doing to their region just because of greed.The irony is that they feel so sad to hear that new oil producing states outside south south are emerging.

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Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by jpphilips(m): 12:11pm On Aug 18, 2016
codemaniacs:


its only a matter of time before they turn lagos to syria.... teenubu should have rejected any offer to build refinery in lagos, he should have told the fola guy to keep quiet... honestly, the security situation of lagos in the coming years may end up been very bad.

they have already practiced in Ikorodu.... the SW needs to be watchful and protective, cos the f:ulani 9ja army will obey the colonial masters..


You forgot that the SW have Ilajes, they are the ones disturbing the SW, it won't be as bad as the Niger delta because the SW people are wiser.

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Re: Lagos’ Ownership Of 4 Oil Wells Approved By FG, 1 Other Disproved by laudate: 12:22am On Aug 22, 2016
admax:
Matters like this will be expressly approved since Lagos has aligned with the center (F.G)

As a Lagosian, I am happy about this development and I hope LASG will spend more on infrastructure; investing in an alternate mode of transportation, opening up new roads like he has started, Mass housing scheme like the Jakande era and massive CCTV cameras for security purpose.

Lagos State is definitely on the right path as a result of a consistency in Governance not forgetting the 25years Regional Masterplan for Lagos.

Eko Oni Baje o!

But Lagos should learn from the lessons of the Niger-Delta. Strict environmental controls need to be observed in the oil producing communities of Lagos state, to prevent spillage, degradation and the kind of environmental pollution that has blighted oil producing communities in the Niger-Delta.

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