MrMontella:

@the bolded is a big fat lie...

the serial killer and his killings,,the prostitute and her prostitution,,the armed robber and his robberby..
These three things stated above each have their undeniable evidences when they occur
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MrMontella:


Any rational human will see that an Eternal punishment for finite sins is a direct contradiction of an all loving and all merciful god..

eternal torment again..
But he is still all loving..

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MrMontella:



here the ideology behind the christian god is crushed by the christians themselves..
The bible claims he is all loving yet he can hate..
An all knowing god cannot have new emotions...like anger,,plain wickedness,,,
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MrMontella:



Any rational human will see that an Eternal punishment for finite sins is a direct contradiction of an all loving and all merciful god..

frank317:
OP... the fact that you are over coming Allah's hell does not mean it does not exist. Allah will still burn u blasphemy you spew every day the God has a son.



in my own opinion the two people that deserve hell are Yahweh and Allah.

MizJanet:



stop stammering with this imperishable , perishable , that body , it's that body e.t.c kind of words showing you ain't even sure what burns in this hell

tell me what exactly is that thing that burns in hell ?

honourhim:





Experience is the best teacher. Since you dont understand him, maybe experience will teach you better but i pray God saves you now so that you dont experience it. Amen.

MizJanet:




Christians are confuse set of people, some will tell you its spirit not soul , and if u say soul , where will the spirit go then ? care to clarify


the bomb is that according to their Bible , Matthew 10:28 says Body and soul go to Hell , but have you ever heard them preaching this ? its so clear that the verse is a LIE, the body doesn't go to any hell

honourhim:


Dont you have loved ones who are dead? Why didnt you kill yourself to die with them? And since they died dont you eat, laugh, merry, go to clubs and parties and live your life as if you never lost them?
Count your teeth with your tongue.

analice107:

Aren't you someone's loved one now? Are you considering the fact that you burning in hell will hurt your other loved ones?
Na wa for people and their reasoning.
Which ever way, if you reject Christ, when you die, you die without the spirit that shd enter into heaven, so you'll remain outside and that outside is hellfire.
Ifeness, like the OP said, you can't help it. You'll go there if you don't repent.

honourhim:


Yes the body and the soul will be tormented in the lake of fire forever and ever after the final judgment as recorded in Revelations. Thats why the second ressurection will take place which is for sinners who are dead to be judged and cast into the lake of fire.

The talk about spirit/soul being tormented in hell is concerning sinners that are dead.

The one of both body and soul is at the final judgment. Nobody is begging you to believe but whether you like it or not you will face it when the time comes if you dont repent. I dont paint words for people on this matter.

honourhim:
I have read several posts by atheists saying how they overcame the fear of hell fire and by so doing they conclude that no such thing as hell fire exists. Obviously they pick courage to make this claim on the background that the fear of hell fire is no more in them. Some christian organizations on their own took their message to a different level by agreeing that there is a lake of fire but that it will not burn eternally. Some others will tell you that God is so loving that he can burn people forever.

To the atheists, i want to let you know that overcoming the fear of something doesnt make that thing good or non existent.For example- A serial killer has overcome the fear of killing but that doesnt make killing good(anyway atheism preaches that any thing is good if we say its good). A prostitute has overcome the fear/shame of prostitution but that doesnt make it good. A thief/armed robber has overcome the fear of armed robbery but it is still bad. Overcoming the fear of these things does not mean that those who engage in them have escaped the consequences.
In the light of the above, it is obvious that to overcome the fear of hell fire does not mean that there is no more hell fire or that you wont end up there at last if you dont repent.You are only giving yourself a false hope which of course is temporary.

To the christians who preach the false message of no eternal torment, you are also giving yourself a false hope.You people are trying to paint a picture that will not be so scary to the unbelievers but the bible clearly stated it in various places that its an eternal punishment. Giving yourself false hope doesnt solve anything. God cannot raise billions of people up from the grave on the last day just for the purpose of judging and burning them off. Some of them died thousands upon thousands of years ago. Some died in a way that is more horrible way than just being burnt off by fire. If it was about wiping them out then they are already dead and gone so no point raising them up again. They are being raised up to come and face the eternal torment. It may sound painful and wicked to the unbelievers but thats the truth. Nobody is stopping anybody from being a believer.
For those who claim that a loving God cannot do that, pls remember that it is clearly written in the bible that God can love. He can hate. He is a God of vengeance. He is a consuming fire etc. The bible bears records of his acts that reflects these attributes so stop giving out false image of a loving God that cannot punish sinners.
Questions are welcome at this point.

honourhim:


And i ask you- Dont you have loved ones who are dead? Why didnt you kill yourself to die with them? And since they died dont you eat, laugh, merry, go to clubs and parties and live your life as if you never lost them?

Stop being hypocritical bro

honourhim:


And i ask you- Dont you have loved ones who are dead? Why didnt you kill yourself to die with them? And since they died dont you eat, laugh, merry, go to clubs and parties and live your life as if you never lost them?

Stop being hypocritical bro

MizJanet:
this people won't stop amazing me o, when their Lord said body and soul in hell , he no mean when they die as usually preached anymore it means after the final judgement .

Deicide:

And what point are U trying to mk? I ain't the one that believe that am gonna see them again or Am I?

honourhim:


Just show me where Jesus said it will be when they die.

so all the I die and go to Hell story na wash, aftrall Jesus didn't say people will go to hell when they die . interesting . more evidence that you guys just give baseless assumptions e.g the one of body and soul is final judgement , the one of spirit/soul is for dead sinners

If it is about natural death then Jesus wouldnt be talking about sinners being destroyed in hell since both the righteous and the sinners die the natural death.

so sinners are now Destroyed in hell not burning forever ?


man , in what form do people go to this hell ?

americanigga:


when Jehova was talking all that he was talking to the children of Israel. He never mentioned Africa, europ or Americ. Do have any evidence of Jehava relating to African during the time of Abraham. What is our business with another countrys religion?

MizJanet:


so all the I die and go to Hell story na wash, aftrall Jesus didn't say people will go to hell when they die . interesting . more evidence that you guys just give baseless assumptions e.g the one of body and soul is final judgement , the one of spirit/soul is for dead sinners


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If it is about natural death then Jesus wouldnt be talking about sinners being destroyed in hell since both the righteous and the sinners die the natural death.


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so sinners are now Destroyed in hell not tormented ?

man , in what form do people go to hell ?

honourhim:


You see how you reason? I mean dont you mourn their death? Why dont you join them to die since you love them so much? Why do you have to be relieved of the impact of their death and starts laughing and merrying again after sometime as if you never lost any?

honourhim:



For God so love the WORLD that he gave his only begotten son that WHOSOEVER believeth in him will not perish but have everlasting life.
Does this statement say JEWS?

honourhim:


You are just trying to confuse things but its not me that you can do that to. I was trying to differentiate to you where body and soul comes into play.
The story of Lazarus and the rich man is a clear case of the dead sinner being tormented. That is the soul/spirit.

Really, that is the soul/spirit ?
But the text said the richman has a tongue and could taste water , . a spirit having a tongue, tongue a body part !


Touch your tongue, is it flesh or spirit ?

The body remains in the grave and decompose to be made alive at the second resurrection for judgment and eternal torment. If you like pretend as if you dont understand the difference i am drawing. My points are clear.

honourhim:


You are just trying to confuse things but its not me that you can do that to. I was trying to differentiate to you where body and soul comes into play.
The story of Lazarus and the rich man is a clear case of the dead sinner being tormented. That is the soul/spirit. The body remains in the grave and decompose to be made alive at the second resurrection for judgment and eternal torment. If you like pretend as if you dont understand the difference i am drawing. My points are clear.
They are tormented in hell fire. The reach man in hell said he is in torment. Jesus said it is a place where there is weeping and gnashing [size=28] of teeth. [/size] At another point he described it as a place of eternal torment.Which destruction is worse than eternal torment anyway?

EyeHateGod:

Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

MizJanet:


@ bold , your imaginary souls HAVE TEETH ?

honourhim:


And did they receive him or kill him? Then when he resurrected from the dead and said go ye into the world and preach the gospel to ALL NATIONS baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy ghost, didnt you read that one and the numerous other places he spoke about his mission to the world? You didnt also read the ones that Paul wrote?

honourhim:


You think your soul is just one shapeless thing different from you? Then you are missing it bigtime. Its exactly you as you are but not in the physical body . Thats just the difference.

MizJanet:




Really, that is the soul/spirit ?
But the text said the richman has a tongue and could taste water , . a spirit having a tongue, tongue a body part !


Touch your tongue, is it flesh or spirit ?







Body and soul in hell , he said " both" .. Not that soul go first and body join later , BODY AND soul in hell - Matthew 10:28 . its clear and direct . in another instance he said something along its better to have a body part gone than HAVE YOUR Whole Body in hell !

If that's the case, the body of humans should go to hell when it dies . is that happening ?

honourhim:



I have given you the difference . You can keep pretending not to understand it at your own peril. I am not begging you to believe. Your spirit appears exactly as you are but the difference is that its not in the physical body . Your spirit is not different from you. It is the real you thats why when it leaves, your body becomes motionless and dead.

touch your tongue , is it Flesh or spirit ? Am not surprised though, too much of watching nollywood video editing of ghosts is clearly seen @ bold

MizJanet:


touch your tongue , is it Flesh or spirit ? Am not surprised though, too much of watching nollywood video editing of ghosts is clearly seen @ bold

honourhim:


Oh so in your belief a spirit is not supposed to have a tongue. How come the angels speak? They are spirits. God is a spirit, how come he speaks? Satan is a spirit how come he talks and will be tormented with his angels at lasting the lake of fire? The demon that Jesus cast one man screamed and asked Jesus why he has come to torment them. But demons are spirits.

MizJanet:


Show me one single place that said this people u mention have tongue ?

honourhim:


O yeah now you are caught in the web i can see. You are now looking for cheap way of escape. Can you go through my post again then read what you wrote here to yourself and listen to yourself pls? I have clearly shown you that spirits can be tormented but you can keep pretending that you aint seeing it to your own peril. I am not forcing you to believe though

MizJanet:


Provide proof ? o yeah you are caught in the web, is that what I asked you ?


Touch your tongue, is it Flesh or spirit ?