Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / NewStats: 3,194,243 members, 7,953,923 topics. Date: Friday, 20 September 2024 at 08:57 AM |
Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Business / "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain (12047 Views)
Nigerians React To CBN Subsidizing Dollar Rates For Muslim Pilgrims / Open Message To CBN: Solution To The Arising One Chance Bus & ATM Theft. / Many Companies Will Start Closing Shop Due To CBN Forex Policy – MAN (2) (3) (4)
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by guychidile: 3:41pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
we need the truth from both nnpc,CBN,and the nine effected commercial banks...period. I think Nigeria is either pregnant or hungry. |
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by Chukzyfcb(m): 5:09pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
sammhi:yes is that all you got, because that's the only ammunition those that are anti TSA have during such this discussion. a popular maxim says its only a mad man that will keep doing the same thing over an over and be xpcting different results. the core motive of TSA was to curb leakages which is one of the ingredients that has been fueling corruption over the years. we have seen how different administration siphoned funds because of lack of transparency in accountability. banks are supposed to wealth creators too, they are supposed to be partners in business especially the smes through loans and professiobal advice. look at the mid year reports from firstbank, access and gtb all more profits than they earnrd by mid 2015 , most of the revenue coming from the dubious forex transaction. not all CBN policies has been fantastic but to find fault in the TSA policy is truly insane banks should get to the real deal not waiting on government money, kapish 1 Like |
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by Peterwins(m): 6:29pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
If we really think out of the box, the TSA can still be implemented by making the banks the custodians of the funds. Mopping up over two (2) trillion naira from the economy was ill-timed without a counter balance policy by the CBN. When the TSA policy was being fully implemented I was expecting the CBN to infuse at least two trillion naira into the banking system by its monetary policy framework because of the sudden withdrawal of government funds (over two trillion naira) from the banks/economy but surprised they (CBN) never did but were interested in creating multiple exchange rate system (N197/$1 for some few beneficiaries, floating rates for others, black/parallel rates for the majority). My suggestion for the way forward: 1. Let the banks be the custodians of TSA funds. This will improve liquidity in the economy. 2. Abolish the multiple exchange rate system. This will reduce round-tripping. 2 Likes |
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by abfalkolly(m): 6:38pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
Zieristclair:Sir..it doesn't not make any economic sense for CBN to ask banks 2transfer such amt at once!!.There is an underline agreement on how each bank should repatriate NNPC funds,no bank concealed info as erroneously presented by CBN.if u ar following,u will noticed d effect of dt announcement on exchange rate already as d value naira to dollar went down as low as N402/$ !..Govt funds shld nt be left fallow wt CBN when it can be utilised by the banks to create jobs n u n i will benefit!,God bless Naija. |
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by sammhi(m): 7:41pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
Chukzyfcb: hahaha ..display of hate ,twisted thought and poor financial knowledge .. first : TSA was not the brain child of this govt. it was that of immidiate past adminstration so the question of Anti TSA does not arise . no one is saying TSA is bad but its implementation must be done not to harm the banks. secondly, TSA is used in some other countries too and its implementation is done so as not to cause problems to the banks . Main purpose of TSA is to TRACK government revenue. without TSA , it is impossible to track these accounts. so , with that wherever the money is , it is stil accessible to the government . you do not have to mop the fund from the system that is in recession since you are tracking it . thirdly: banks profit being more this year...the FG created the loophole for banks to exploit by fixing currency at 197 .whose fault ? Fourthly and most important, please purge your mind and heart from this mentality of assuming that everyone is a thief and any person given to contrary view benefit from the system. a lot of us knows you are not doing correct things. Even SLS , today berates the govt for its policies . What is going on in your govt now is that you guys are much busy looking for scape goat and those to call thief instead of working. it is a shame You want bank not to use govt money or govt should not keep their money with banks..this seem more like beef or some kind of ludicrous . of what use is money sitting idle and benefiting no one? chai, no wonder the country is suffering with people like your type in corridors of power 1 Like |
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by femarse: 7:45pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
sammhi: at the top echelon of banking are professionals with years of experience dealings with money and samething goes to cbn at the top echelon of cbn are top professionals with years of financial experience which is what makes them to be there to run the organization if they are saying what is good for them is for bank to return the money and gave them stipulated time to do it cos it's been long since they said they should return it if this professionals see reason why this money is to be return who are you and how many financial experience is under your belt to think bank should continue using the money ? don't you know some banks return theirs ? gtb zenith access do u think cbn is charitable organization? they do business too far more than the banks even when banks deposit money at cbn they are charge for it depending on the amount so when they said they need their money for more biz why should dey hold it? 1 Like |
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by Chukazu: 7:55pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
what kind of partisan economic management is Emefiele playing, how come Zenith bank is not among them, how possible can that be? |
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by sammhi(m): 8:02pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
femarse:I never said what the banks did is good. i said they should have asked them to pay fine instead of a ban. But going forward, Govt should allow the banks keep some of the funds too . Not all banks have same strength . Govt policies should help the banks to be stable not to kill them. that is my point. Banning those banks makes them look like rogues which they are not it is like you have agreement with your sales boy that each day sales should be paid into bank. But on a certain day, He told u how much he made and that he wants to retain some of the money since he need to go market the next day morning and you verbally agreed. then you later came with police to arrest him for not remiiting previous day sales . purpose of policies is to help the system not to strangulate it and can be reviewed or adjusted as holes are found in its implementation policies are not cast in iron |
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by Chukzyfcb(m): 8:38pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
sammhi:Mr man please do not contradict yourself. You just said that the t.s.a policy was a last administration idea (which I agree), also you said sanusi berates the policies of this present govt. how can you ever think that t.s.a will be amongst the policy sansei loathes when he and N.O.I would have been the brain behind it does that make sense to you Well that aside...........Talking about leaving the bank bleeding after t.s.a October last year I went to the bank to do a fixed deposit. I went with high hopes of receiving a High interest rate because I expected the bank to be in dire need of cash after the t.s.a. Policy. I was disappointed that day at the rates, 3.5% - 4% for 90 days was what I was offered. I couldn't believe my ears , how could banking sectors not be needing cAsh at that moment when t.s.a had sucked out bout 2trillion.........Well on further enquiry, I found out that despite the fact cbn milked about 2trillion from banks, it pumped back liquidity of over 700billion and reduced the cash reserve ratio from 31% to 25% that brought the banking sector an added savings of 470billion. So you see my friend, cbn didn't leave the bank to die, it brought rescue while advising them to manage their risk portfolio for shocks that may arise in the future. If you will agree with me, the main challenge now in the banking sector isn't T.s.a but the rising non performing loan, mostly in the oil and gas sector. T.s.a is an excellent policy that has gotten various commendations from top financial heads in the country. I am not an economist tho but I know well to commend good policies when I see one. Moreover t.s.a policy approval or not is off point to what this thread is about. The fault of the cbn according to the Topic of discussion(thread) was to ban the banks from forex dealings instead of placing a fine. It's not the first time banks will err in remitting the revenues of mda to the account. A fine was placed on the defaulters in the past like when Zenith or uba were found guilty, so I wonder why cbn will change the punishment now to forex ban instead of fine. Lets discuss the topic gentlemen 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by davidthe16th: 9:10pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
All this money this Govt has been collecting I still have nt seen any impact on our economy. Goat and Yam |
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by 989900: 10:40pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
Chukzyfcb: Well said. Just to chip in: 1. The TSA is enshrined in our 1999 constitution, anything away from it in a lawful country would have been criminal sabotage punishable by the the full weight of the law. That we are just implementing it after years upon years of flouting the law to the advantage of some few criminals and their bank buddies, is actually a shame. The party was always going to end someday. 2. In addition to reducing the banks CRR to help them with liquidity, do you know the CBN spends billions in mopping up excess liquidity to the benefit of these same banks? Not to mention the $9b or something 'bailout' lent to them banks since 2008. 3. When the banks had all the monies all these years "who dem epp", asides their oil friends and some other cronies? Go to them with any brilliant idea for funding, and they will always find a way to discredit it, or ask you for all impossibilities with interest rates in excess of 20%!!! 4. I wonder why our friends supporting them banks think the CBN does not need the funds to grow the economy . . . LoL. The CBN's rice initiative alone is already yielding effects, not to mention other low interest loans being prepared, or the CBN's tradings, reserves, and stuffs. The banks OTOH, have done a very good job in enriching their cronies to over a trillion naira in bad debts already! If reports emanating from 'Premium times' are anything to go by, some persons from the NNPC were getting kickbacks from those unremitted dollars, the 'whistleblowing actually came from some disgruntled elements in the NNPC. 5. About fining them, the fines won't hurt where it hurts the most, they'd simply pay the fines out of profits from their shady dealings (wonder why they refused selling to the BDCs contrary to the CBN's directive for some 3weeks now) -- these guys are crooked geniuses. Like I stated some weeks ago, the CBN needs to choke them with both hands, they've both shared same bed for a long while now; the system can't support their illicit marriage any longer. 2 Likes |
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by Remii(m): 5:43am On Aug 26, 2016 |
UnknownT:they should go and collect their money from saraki family their survival issue will be resolved, lol 1 Like |
Re: "NNPC’s Dollars Were Fully Disclosed To CBN" - FirstBank, Others Explain by Zieristclair(m): 3:48pm On Oct 26, 2016 |
sammhi:u made no sense.go back to nursery school,fish mouth.Mr matured mind. |
Jonathan Orders FG Parastatals To Patronise Nigerian Made Vehicles / Top 6 Websites To Make Extra Money Online / I Have Been Scammed! Read Fast!!!!
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 75 |