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The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by Truthman83(m): 4:45pm On Aug 27, 2016
Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by EyeHateGod: 4:48pm On Aug 27, 2016
grin Most % of the Jews Don't even think He Existed and they have noting to do with the NT

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Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by DonCortino: 4:57pm On Aug 27, 2016
EyeHateGod:
grin Most % of the Jews Don't even think He Existed and they have noting to do with the NT
Why wont they? They killed him na.

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Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by gj22(m): 5:01pm On Aug 27, 2016
Real Jews? Are there fake Jews?
Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by AnodaIT(m): 5:07pm On Aug 27, 2016
The belief in the Messiah was never supposed to be a different religion from the beginning

It was to be a sect under Judaism, The "Rock" upon which the sect (Church) was built ie Peter was very much involved in establishing it in Jerusalem first before it was taken to other part of the world. Peter was still worshipping in the Temple and doing Jewish rituals (Just as Christ did in his time) even after the Pentecost.

The more reason Peter was initially opposed to Apostle Paul taking the Gospel to the Gentiles because, the Gentile were not "Jewish" enough to share in the Gospel. (Follow up to Gal 2: 11)

If Peter had had his way, this is how it would have been

The Pharisees: The Pharisees also maintained that an after-life existed and that God punished the wicked and rewarded the righteous in the world to come. They also believed in a messiah who would herald an era of world peace.

The Sadducees: The Sadducees were elitists who wanted to maintain the priestly caste, they did not believe in an after life, since it is not mentioned in the Torah. The main focus of Sadducee life was rituals associated with the Temple.

The Essenes: A third faction, the Essenes, emerged out of disgust with the other two. This sect believed the others had corrupted the city and the Temple. They moved out of Jerusalem and lived a monastic life in the desert, adopting strict dietary laws and a commitment to celibacy.

The Christians: Believers and followers of Yeshua the Messiah. According to them, the Messiah has already come and brought with him message of peace, love, grace and forgiveness.

But as a result of Paul taking the Gospel to the Gentiles, the Romans hijack it and made it into a state religion, openly separating it from Judaism.

Since we were all brought up with literatures from the Holy Roman Catholic Church, all books were burnt and till today, no one really know what happened except for what the organized catholic church allowed to remain (including the Bible)

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Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by EyeHateGod: 5:30pm On Aug 27, 2016
DonCortino:

Why wont they? They killed him na.

It was Made up and the Jews are suffering for it even though its fiction
Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by DonCortino: 5:38pm On Aug 27, 2016
EyeHateGod:

It was Made up and the Jews are suffering for it even though its fiction
That's because they placed the curse on themselves!
" let his blood be upon us and our children". Matt 27:25
Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by EyeHateGod: 5:45pm On Aug 27, 2016
DonCortino:

That's because they placed the curse on themselves!
" let his blood be upon us and our children". Matt 27:25
I said the NT was made up...How do U explain Millions Of Xtian Killed By Muslims undecided Cursed too?
Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by DonCortino: 5:58pm On Aug 27, 2016
EyeHateGod:

I said the NT was made up...How do U explain Millions Of Xtian Killed By Muslims undecided Cursed too?
You just said they are suffering and I pointed out why. Why r they suffering if it was made up?
Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by EyeHateGod: 6:07pm On Aug 27, 2016
DonCortino:

You just said they are suffering and I pointed out why. Why r they suffering if it was made up?
That was then not now besides the Holocaust was carried out by Adolph hitler(Christian)
Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by DonCortino: 6:14pm On Aug 27, 2016
EyeHateGod:

That was then not now besides the Holocaust was carried out by Adolph hitler(Christian)

Guy! U dont even knw what u believe! If u wanna be an atheist go n read more. U r too shabby.

Abeg free me make I watch my game.
Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by EyeHateGod: 6:15pm On Aug 27, 2016
DonCortino:


Guy! U dont even knw what u believe! If u wanna be an atheist go n read more. U r too shabby.

Abeg free me make I watch my game.
grin look at him
Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by hopefulLandlord: 6:24pm On Aug 27, 2016
Jesus was a jewish carpenter who was the deluded bastard son of an acclaimed virgin who was lied to by his mother that God impregnated her and who ended up believing it and allowing himself to be crucified only to realize his folly on the cross then crying out to his imaginary father in heaven asking why he has forsaken him.
This same man is called the lion of the tribe of judah while he was even weaker than a sheep, he goes around making statement like he is the king of the jews and even telling the priests that he will pull down their temples and rebuild it in 3 days and when asked to do that claimed that he isnt talking about the temple but his body.

But romans no de carry last them beat nonsense commot for him body and his apostle stole his body and claimed he rose up on the 3rd day and went to heaven and na only the see am, even the mother did not see him self

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Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by Pidggin(f): 6:41pm On Aug 27, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
[s]Jesus was a jewish carpenter who was the deluded bastard son of an acclaimed virgin who was lied to by his mother that God impregnated her and who ended up believing it and allowing himself to be crucified only to realize his folly on the cross then crying out to his imaginary father in heaven asking why he has forsaken him.
This same man is called the lion of the tribe of judah while he was even weaker than a sheep, he goes around making statement like he is the king of the jews and even telling the priests that he will pull down their temples and rebuild it in 3 days and when asked to do that claimed that he isnt talking about the temple but his body.

But romans no de carry last them beat nonsense commot for him body and his apostle stole his body and claimed he rose up on the 3rd day and went to heaven and na only the see am, even the mother did not see him self[/s]

But after more than 2000 years since He was born He is still the most popular being that ever lived and His book the Bible has been a best seller in every generation since then.

Surely He more than deserves the accolades smiley

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Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by kilo4sure: 6:44pm On Aug 27, 2016
AnodaIT:
The belief in the Messiah was never supposed to be a different religion from the beginning

It was to be a sect under Judaism, The "Rock" upon which the sect (Church) was built ie Peter was very much involved in establishing it in Jerusalem first before it was taken to other part of the world. Peter was still worshipping in the Temple and doing Jewish rituals (Just as Christ did in his time) even after the Pentecost.

The more reason Peter was initially opposed to Apostle Paul taking the Gospel to the Gentiles because, the Gentile were not "Jewish" enough to share in the Gospel. (Follow up to Gal 2: 11)

If Peter had had his way, this is how it would have been

The Pharisees: The Pharisees also maintained that an after-life existed and that God punished the wicked and rewarded the righteous in the world to come. They also believed in a messiah who would herald an era of world peace.

The Sadducees: The Sadducees were elitists who wanted to maintain the priestly caste, they did not believe in an after life, since it is not mentioned in the Torah. The main focus of Sadducee life was rituals associated with the Temple.

The Essenes: A third faction, the Essenes, emerged out of disgust with the other two. This sect believed the others had corrupted the city and the Temple. They moved out of Jerusalem and lived a monastic life in the desert, adopting strict dietary laws and a commitment to celibacy.

The Christians: Believers and followers of Yeshua the Messiah. According to them, the Messiah has already come and brought with him message of peace, love, grace and forgiveness.

But as a result of Paul taking the Gospel to the Gentiles, the Romans hijack it and made it into a state religion, openly separating it from Judaism.

Since we were all brought up with literatures from the Holy Roman Catholic Church, all books were burnt and till today, no one really know what happened except for what the organized catholic church allowed to remain (including the Bible)
Exactly, and it seems at the beginning both Jesus and john the Baptist were of the Essen sect. The Essenes believed the more the jews separate themselves from the world or lived a peaceful Holy life, the closer the coming of God's kingdom which would overthrow the Romans and create a new world order of peace through Israel.

Pharisees also desired God's visit to his people but believed in action and a warlord messaiah. But Jesus seemed to have his own free thought, he had different ideas from both the essenes and Pharisees, he believed the kingdom of God had begun already, hence there would be no need to wait for it anymore, he saw himself as one who had a major role to play in all these, and urged his people to believe him and start living as though the new era had begun.

For Jesus, the kingdom of God in reality is here and now, then extends to the future. And to make it even more ridiculous, he is the king of this kingdom. This was unbelievable to the Pharisees and Sadducees because he was not a warrior and didn't act like one who could overthrow the Romans, nor was he even interested in such, hence they saw him as a deceiver who only used sorcery to lure the people away.

The Essenes would have believed in him, but he seemed not to have had respect towards their opinion of staying away from the world like john the Baptist, rather he went to parties, ate and drank and even visited sinners, it is easy to see why Jews didn't believe in him. Even when he taught, he did not teach in the traditional pattern of the rabbis who quoted Torah and Talmud, to analyze them, rather he told stories, some the people could relate to, some for the purpose of confusion.

To summarize, Jesus was a true Jew, immersed in the culture of his people, but had other ideas of his own for which he even died.
Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by Nobody: 6:58pm On Aug 27, 2016
I doff my hat to those well versed in History on this thread

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Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by 7114garrett: 7:54pm On Aug 27, 2016
People from all over the world are finally waking up to the fact that the "Jews" over in Israel now are the synagogue of Satan that the bible speaks of in REV. 2:9 3:9

Hear their confessions about who these people think the true Hebrew Israelite's are. https://www.pinterest.com/garygarrett353/bringing-out-the-truth/

To see black religious Icons that have been hidden from the world go to: https://www.pinterest.com/garygarrett353/blacked-out-through-whitewash/
Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by kester113(m): 8:48pm On Aug 27, 2016
DonCortino:

That's because they placed the curse on themselves!
" let his blood be upon us and our children". Matt 27:25
hmmm..definitely his blood came upon them including ourselves but it wasn't a CURSE rather a BLESSING IN DISGUISE..His blood came upon us all for the washing of our sins and salvation of our soul
Re: The Real Jews Have Different Views About Jesus Unlike Christians by EyeHateGod: 10:00pm On Aug 27, 2016
kester113:

hmmm..definitely his blood came upon them including ourselves but it wasn't a CURSE rather a BLESSING IN DISGUISE..His blood came upon us all for the washing of our sins and salvation of our soul
Blood blood blood that's what all U religious folk know

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