The people who wrote the bible talk about stars falling down to earth had no idea that stars are bigger than the earth. Some are gigantic even in comparison to our closest star, the sun. As this picture illustrates beautifully.



These are the facts, and were brought to you by scientists with a quest for knowledge and greater understanding.
None of this is in the bible. I wonder why?

You damn satanist and your science get out of here. The devil is a liar stop tempting us with you so called facts

The universe is too big. . what really is this thing?. . . . .I just hope one day humans will get to really know what this thing is. . . .For now we know very little about it. . .

my question is how did I find myself on earth? na wah o creationist people where are you? all these things in 6 days na beans?

The irony of it all is that the universe is still coming to be. It is still being "created". It looks like God didn't really take a rest on the 7th day, and is still working over-time. Kinda comforting to know God is a workaholic. 14 billion years and counting, non stop, 24/7. DAMN!! I bow!!

Wow the unviverse is truly awesome and in effect that means it's creator is even more awesome. The sheer size of the universe testifies to the glory of the almighty creator God. No religion not even christianity can comprehend the glory of God and that is why these things were not recorded in the bible. Even if God told the biblical writers how would they record it if they can't comprehend it. Even scientist acknowledge that they know extremely very little. How do you expect biblical writers to even begin to give terminologies to the immense and unfathomable scale of the universe.

Is the size of the universe not an illusion of spacetime geometry?Is it as big as we actually think it is?What if this universe exists only inside of us,and not outside?I wonder.

KunleOshob:

Wow the unviverse is truly awesome and in effect that means it's creator is even more awesome. The sheer size of the universe testifies to the glory of the almighty creator God. No religion not even christianity can comprehend the glory of God and that is why these things were not recorded in the bible. Even if God told the biblical writers how would they record it if they can't comprehend it. Even scientist acknowledge that they know extremely very little. How do you expect biblical writers to even begin to give terminologies to the immense and unfathomable scale of the universe.

The atheists say there is no Creator!

THE QURAN VERSES THAT DESCRIBE THE HEAVENLY BODIES RELATIVE TO THE EARTH AND THE IMMENSED KNOWLEDGE THAT IS IN THEM FOR
MANKIND TO GO EXPERIENCE: KNOWLEDGE IS PWER. ALTIMATE KNOWLEDGE IS QURAN



**Look at how the Universe is described in the Quran; its creation, distances between heavenly objects, their functions and rulings guiding them, etc! Is there a better Professoral presentation, where you then read and make your research as if in Scientific labs performing experiments?

"Do not the unbelievers see that the skies (space) and the earth (matter) were joined together (as one unit of creation) and we ripped them apart?" The Quran, 21:30

"Then He took hold of the sky when it was smoke." 41:11

"The sun and the moon follow courses precisely computed" 55:5

"And the sky He raised and set the balance" 55:7



**The orbits of the heavenly bodies are mentioned in the verse:

"and the sun and the moon, all travelling in orbits." 21:33


"…as if it were a brilliant star……, whose oil (fuel) is well lit, even no fire touches it." 24:35

"Blessed is He who made constellations in the sky and placed there in a lamp, and a moon giving light." 25:61

And also:

"It is He who made the sun to light up (the sky) and the moon that is lit." 10:5

"and the heavens we created with might (power) and we are expanding it." 51:47
"He has ordained the sun and the moon, each one runs (it's course) for an appointed time." 13:2



**Surah, 81 in its opening verse, describes the end of time as follows:

"When the sun is rounded (swelling like a ball)"

"When the stars have collapsed"

"When the oceans boil over in a swell" 81:6
"when stars lose their lustre" 77:8



**Many ways to show that these Universe is vast, including giving you varied measurement of time, being relative to time and space and distances between objects, by irrelevant to Allah their Creator, Who is not bound by the time(s)!

1) "the angels and the spirit ascend unto Him in a day, the measure of which was fifty thousand years." 70:4
2) "…a day relative to your God is equivalent to a thousand years of your count." 22:47
"…on a day, the measure of which was a thousand years of your count." 32:5



**Allah mentions a creative process, and their spatial positions

"Have you not seen how God has created seven skies one above the other?" 71:15



**The barriers that exist between these universes are mentioned in the following verse:

"……if you can penetrate through the zones of the skies and the earth, then penetrate, you will not do so without authority." 55:33

"And we have decorated the lowest heaven (universe) with lanterns (stars)." 41:12

@Olabowale
You forgot to include the verses were mohammed divided the moon into two.

Mantraa, you keep saying this thing about stars falling down to earth. I hope you know that it's a very poor view for you to take.

Meteors and Meteorites have fallen on the earth for billions of years. These falling objects light ablaze from energy upon entering the atmosphere. That's why they are called shooting stars up to today.

So why are you so amazed if ancient minds could have referred to such as "falling stars"? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Give me a break.

@KunleOshob: #9 on: Today at 06:34:35 PM »

@Olabowale
You forgot to include the verses were mohammed divided the moon into two.

Kunle, dont be silly. That verse is not relevant here. It will serve the same purpose, almost as Laa ila ha ilAllah.

Kunle is a funny dude. He cant even go against the Quran, the Bible does not have a clear verse to match any of the Quran in this case. Did Muhammad (as) plagiarised this too? I wonder which part of the OT or NT that has this material for the Quran? Where are Ohsisi, Nezan, Noetic15, sleek29, davidylan and indeed chairwoman Pligrim.1 to defend the Bible?

Kunle awon ogbeni ati ogberon no fie sile nikon ladi gbeja Bibeli!

@deep sight
That is exactly the point i was making.
They thought that they were falling 'stars'. They did not know that a star and a meteorite are two completely different objects. Why did god not tell the so-called prophets that a meteorite is not a star?
In their ignorance of the universe that they inhabit, the writers of the bible tried to explain how and why it was created. In their arrogance, they put the earth at the centre of it all. The planets were thought to be wondering 'stars' until scientists invented telescopes and discovered what they really are.

Why do you think your deist god made all those distant galaxies, massive stars, and black holes, etc?
Do you think that they were made just so that he could impress us humans? (6000 years later, when the first deep space telescopes where invented).

You dont have all the answers, nobody does yet. There is much more to be learned and to just say "god did it" is intellectual laziness which does nothing to advance our knowledge and understanding.

KunleOshob:

Wow the unviverse is truly awesome and in effect that means it's creator is even more awesome. The sheer size of the universe testifies to the glory of the almighty creator God. No religion not even christianity can comprehend the glory of God and that is why these things were not recorded in the bible. Even if God told the biblical writers how would they record it if they can't comprehend it. Even scientist acknowledge that they know extremely very little. How do you expect biblical writers to even begin to give terminologies to the immense and unfathomable scale of the universe.

The problem ıs that the writers of the bible know nothıng about the universe as we know it today. . .to them the stars are just some tiny little lamps that hang up in the sky. . . stars were thing that will some day fall into the earth. . . they said that stars fought along side humans ın battles. . . in fact to the bible writers the earth was all that matters in the universe. . . . .

olabowale:

THE QURAN VERSES THAT DESCRIBE THE HEAVENLY BODIES RELATIVE TO THE EARTH AND THE IMMENSED KNOWLEDGE THAT IS IN THEM FOR
MANKIND TO GO EXPERIENCE: KNOWLEDGE IS PWER. ALTIMATE KNOWLEDGE IS QURAN



**Look at how the Universe is described in the Quran; its creation, distances between heavenly objects, their functions and rulings guiding them, etc! Is there a better Professoral presentation, where you then read and make your research as if in Scientific labs performing experiments?

"Do not the unbelievers see that the skies (space) and the earth (matter) were joined together (as one unit of creation) and we ripped them apart?" The Quran, 21:30

"Then He took hold of the sky when it was smoke." 41:11

"The sun and the moon follow courses precisely computed" 55:5

"And the sky He raised and set the balance" 55:7



**The orbits of the heavenly bodies are mentioned in the verse:

"and the sun and the moon, all travelling in orbits." 21:33


"…as if it were a brilliant star……, whose oil (fuel) is well lit, even no fire touches it." 24:35

"Blessed is He who made constellations in the sky and placed there in a lamp, and a moon giving light." 25:61

And also:

"It is He who made the sun to light up (the sky) and the moon that is lit." 10:5

"and the heavens we created with might (power) and we are expanding it." 51:47
"He has ordained the sun and the moon, each one runs (it's course) for an appointed time." 13:2



**Surah, 81 in its opening verse, describes the end of time as follows:

"When the sun is rounded (swelling like a ball)"

"When the stars have collapsed"

"When the oceans boil over in a swell" 81:6
"when stars lose their lustre" 77:8



**Many ways to show that these Universe is vast, including giving you varied measurement of time, being relative to time and space and distances between objects, by irrelevant to Allah their Creator, Who is not bound by the time(s)!

1) "the angels and the spirit ascend unto Him in a day, the measure of which was fifty thousand years." 70:4
2) "…a day relative to your God is equivalent to a thousand years of your count." 22:47
"…on a day, the measure of which was a thousand years of your count." 32:5



**Allah mentions a creative process, and their spatial positions

"Have you not seen how God has created seven skies one above the other?" 71:15



**The barriers that exist between these universes are mentioned in the following verse:

"……if you can penetrate through the zones of the skies and the earth, then penetrate, you will not do so without authority." 55:33

"And we have decorated the lowest heaven (universe) with lanterns (stars)." 41:12

Pls stop telling lies for mohammed and allah. . . . . the koran does not even say anything important about the earth. . . . .The koran says that shooting stars are allah's weapons against the jınns who go to paradise to lısten to what is going on there

The Universe is far much bigger than you are currently percieving it, God went so far away from us when we wanted to near him, Thousand of years of technology will not even help!

lightwalk:

The Universe is far much bigger than you are currently percieving it, God went so far away from us when we wanted to near him, Thousand of years of technology will not even help!

What is this . . . . . is this this ridiculous theory of yours found in your bible? Or is this one of your actions of pushing your imaginary god into the relm of the unknown?

these christians and islamist make me laugh in Italian What is so special about the earth that the 'creator' of the universe will send his son to die here. I laugh in spanish

Food for thought

Is God in the universe or out of the universe

If in, where was he staying before he created the universe? that place is called what?

If out, what is the name of that place outside the universe

The pictures above should make you think twice about that bible or quran you carry up and down

and mazaje saw all the verses, he coudnt dispute any, so he had to give a blind man summation of all y a different verse that explains something differently! i now laugh in finnish nordic language.

olabowale:

and mazaje saw all the verses, he coudnt dispute any, so he had to give a blind man summation of all y a different verse that explains something differently! i now laugh in finnish nordic language.

Its obvious that you do not know what you are talking about. . . . .

mazaje:

What is this . . . . . is this this ridiculous theory of yours found in your bible? Or is this one of your actions of pushing your imaginary god into the relm of the unknown?

Now you don't even understand what anyone else is talking about
Phew!
Dig and find the truth mazaje, for your own sake.