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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 4:30pm On May 06, 2018
GERALD710:

Last I checked Manderra is one county. I have never seen Codeine in Nairobi or Mombasa.Mombasa has its drug problem, Codeine is not one of them
And did they also tell you codein is in every single Nigerian village?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 5:30pm On May 06, 2018
Danielnino00:




I had to read your posy three times to understand what you wrote.. Mr Europe, which part of Europe do u stay?? This ur grammar dy do me strong thing ooo..
grin


Let's analyse your points
1) You claim Lagos doesn't produce finished goods... How come Lagos is the most industrialized state in Nigeria?..
2) You said Nigeria import most of it's "ingredients" for manufacturing.. that's funny,cus there's hardly any country in the world that doesn't import... but unlike Kenya that u are trying to asslick, Nigeria doesn't have a negative trade balance... go figure that out..
3) Your last point makes no sense at all.. in fact it's dumb.. How does Lagos survive on money sent from abroad? does that mean everybody in Lagos has somebody sending them money from abroad? or are u saying the people from abroad are donating money to Lagos?? just a few days ago u said Lagos was surviving on Oil money.. now it's diaspora money...



And lastly, on the issue of Lagos not producing enough, it's good for the country... Right now,many manufacturing firms are building their companies in nearby States like Ogun and Oyo but Lagos remains their no.1 target market..... Lagos has a functioning CBD,hundreds of markets and industrial estates...
It is always very difficult understanding what he writes. Even the Kenyans he is trying to help must find him embarrassing.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:25pm On May 06, 2018
Don't compare federal system of Nigeria and devolved system that we have in Kenya. Our counties are NOT allowed to levy taxes. They just collect business licensing, land rates and such small fees.
obaaderemi:
Wow! Lagos is doing well in terms of IGR. Over $1bn in a year is not too bad. Meanwhile, the man you quoted is a stark illiterate who can't read between the lines. You can see the Kenyans are even ignoring his posts due to his poor grasp of language. Obviously he hates Nigeria due to Jonathan's loss of the 2015 election. But the silly boy still has Nigerian papers. So he believes he is trapped and hates his life. Even a blind man can sense his pain. Do you know that all the 47 counties in Kenya together in nine months generated IGR lower than Lagos did in three months.They made $247million in 3 quarters and Lagos made $290m in one quarter!

https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Counties--revenue-collection-dips-by-Sh1-2bn/996-4117070-15q6eio/index.html
The 47 counties collected a total of Sh24.7 billion
between July 2016 and March this year compared
to Sh25.9 billion realised over a similar period a
year earlier, data by the Treasury shows.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 7:00pm On May 06, 2018
As Nigeria dilly-dally about the Africa Free Trade - Kenyan parliament already ratified it and kenya is racing to become Africa first country to ratify. We fear NO competition. We already have Egypt in COMESA. Adding South Africa & Moroccos won't be such a bad hit. Of course Nigeria is big joke...except as consumer market.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Kenya-setting-pace-on-continental-free-trade-deal/1056-4547916-fxf72rz/index.html

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:31pm On May 06, 2018
rvp20182:
Don't compare federal system of Nigeria and devolved system that we have in Kenya. Our counties are NOT allowed to levy taxes. They just collect business licensing, land rates and such small fees.
Odhiambo, you are back.You are always lying and arguing blindly. Don't you get tired of lying?
https://www.tuko.co.ke/264555-different-types-taxes-kenya.html

For county taxes in
Kenya, each of the 47 counties has designated
areas to pay taxes. You can either go to the county
offices or deposit directly to the county government
accounts.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:38pm On May 06, 2018
rvp20182:
As Nigeria dilly-dally about the Africa Free Trade - Kenyan parliament already ratified it and kenya is racing to become Africa first country to ratify. We fear NO competition. We already have Egypt in COMESA. Adding South Africa & Moroccos won't be such a bad hit. Of course Nigeria is big joke...except as consumer market.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Kenya-setting-pace-on-continental-free-trade-deal/1056-4547916-fxf72rz/index.html
We already dealt with this issue. Are you autistic?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:08pm On May 06, 2018
rvp20182:
As Nigeria dilly-dally about the Africa Free Trade - Kenyan parliament already ratified it and kenya is racing to become Africa first country to ratify. We fear NO competition. We already have Egypt in COMESA. Adding South Africa & Moroccos won't be such a bad hit. Of course Nigeria is big joke...except as consumer market.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Kenya-setting-pace-on-continental-free-trade-deal/1056-4547916-fxf72rz/index.html
Great news smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 8:42am On May 07, 2018
obaaderemi:
Odhiambo, you are back.You are always lying and arguing blindly. Don't you get tired of lying?
https://www.tuko.co.ke/264555-different-types-taxes-kenya.html

For county taxes in
Kenya, each of the 47 counties has designated
areas to pay taxes. You can either go to the county
offices or deposit directly to the county government
accounts.

Negro, both rvp20182 and I are Kenyans. We know our legal and tax structures better than you. PLS,SHOW ME WHERE IN THE LINK COUNTIES LEVY TAXES?
Thanks.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 9:54am On May 07, 2018
rvp20182:
Don't compare federal system of Nigeria and devolved system that we have in Kenya. Our counties are NOT allowed to levy taxes. They just collect business licensing, land rates and such small fees.

You just described the opposite of devolution. If counties can't collect tax, how is there any devolution ongoing ?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 9:56am On May 07, 2018
All Kenyans know how to do is drink alcohol. Kenya is a nation of alcoholics, even Uhuru is always high, look at the guy!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:48am On May 07, 2018
Try find something more credible. Kenya is not federal system..get the meaning of that..and understand our devolved units cannot levy taxes.
obaaderemi:
Odhiambo, you are back.You are always lying and arguing blindly. Don't you get tired of lying?
https://www.tuko.co.ke/264555-different-types-taxes-kenya.html

For county taxes in
Kenya, each of the 47 counties has designated
areas to pay taxes. You can either go to the county
offices or deposit directly to the county government
accounts.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:50am On May 07, 2018
Difference btw federalism (states) and devolution. Our counties are not allowed to levy taxes. That doesn't mean they can't collect revenue from markets, land rates (not stamp duty), business licensing and etc. But they can't levy say income or vat or corporate tax or PAYE.

This is not Nigeria where you have FIRS & the State Inland Revenue Service. Our counties just collect small time fees - that Nigeria local authorities collect.

naijalander:


You just described the opposite of devolution. If counties can't collect tax, how is there any devolution ongoing ?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:54am On May 07, 2018
Precisely article 209 of our constitution makes that very clear
http://www.klrc.go.ke/index.php/constitution-of-kenya/149-chapter-twelve-public-finance/part-3-revenue-raising-powers-and-the-public-debt/378-209-power-to-impose-taxes-and-charges
209. POWER TO IMPOSE TAXES AND CHARGES
(1) Only the national government may impose --
(a) income tax;
(b) value-added tax;
(c) customs duties and other duties on import and export goods; and
(d) excise tax.

2) An Act of Parliament may authorise the national government to impose any other tax or duty, except a tax specified in clause (3) (a) or (b).
(3) A county may impose--
(a) property rates;
(b) entertainment taxes; and
(c) any other tax that it is authorised to impose by an Act of Parliament.

(4) The national and county governments may impose charges for services.
(5) The taxation and other revenue-raising powers of a county shall not be exercised in a way that prejudices national economic policies, economic activities across county boundaries or the national mobility of goods, services, capital or labour.
kikuyu1:


Negro, both rvp20182 and I are Kenyans. We know our legal and tax structures better than you. PLS,SHOW ME WHERE IN THE LINK COUNTIES LEVY TAXES?
Thanks.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:59am On May 07, 2018
Actually this is part of problem with Nigeria. Nigeria consume way too much alcohol. I was shocked by numbers of hecto-litres of alcohol you guys consume..and half of you population is muslim. No wonder nothing is going on - it's like Somalia and it's drug problem.
naijalander:
All Kenyans know how to do is drink alcohol. Kenya is a nation of alcoholics, even Uhuru is always high, look at the guy!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 12:05pm On May 07, 2018
Lies. There are more alcoholics in Nairobi alone than in Nigeria put together. Population is misguiding you, if we break it down in percentages, Kenyans are effin drunkatds and you know it, why lie?

They even had to ban alcohol purchase last 8 pm at some point. Your countrymen are sick and you know it.


rvp20182:
Actually this is part of problem with Nigeria. Nigeria consume way too much alcohol. I was shocked by numbers of hecto-litres of alcohol you guys consume..and half of you population is muslim. No wonder nothing is going on - it's like Somalia and it's drug problem.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by cozysblog: 12:08pm On May 07, 2018
Candidate For Police Recruitment Will Have To Write Jamb First-IGP Reveals

The police have confirmed that the candidates to be recruited in the ongoing process will have to write an examination conducted by the Joint Admissions and Matriculation Board (JAMB).

President Muhammadu Buhari recently announced that he had approved for the police to recruit 6,000 new officers. The recruitment is to help increase the personnel of the Nigeria Police Force, currently at about 300,000.

In a statement sent to PREMIUM TIMES on Sunday, Jimoh Moshood, the police spokesperson, said, “For the first time, successful candidates, after the physical screening, will undergo a written aptitude test to be conducted by Joint Admission and Matriculation Board (JAMB) to ensure transparency and get the best out of the candidates.”

Mr Moshood, an assistant commissioner of police, also listed other conditions to be fulfilled by the candidates to be eventually recruited across the 36 states and Abuja.

Read his full statement below.

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The Inspector General of Police, Ibrahim Idris, NPM, mni, represented by the Deputy Inspector General of Police, Training and Development, DIG Emmanuel Inyang psc(+)mni has addressed Commissioners of Police and other Senior Officers nominated to serve as Heads of Police recruitment screening Committee in the Thirty Seven Commands of the Federation and warned them to be thorough and above board and ensure that the screening exercise which will commence with effect from Monday 7th May 2018 is smooth, hitch-free and devoid of any form of corrupt practice.

Read also : http://www.cozysblog.com.ng/candidate-for-police-recruitment-will-have-to-write-jamb/

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:04pm On May 07, 2018
kikuyu1:


Negro, both rvp20182 and I are Kenyans. We know our legal and tax structures better than you. PLS,SHOW ME WHERE IN THE LINK COUNTIES LEVY TAXES?
Thanks.
lol,see this reply...... but when u post nonsensical stuffs about Nigerian affairs, u forgot to note that Nigerians here know their structures better than u?? undecided

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:05pm On May 07, 2018
kikuyu1:


Negro, both rvp20182 and I are Kenyans. We know our legal and tax structures better than you. PLS,SHOW ME WHERE IN THE LINK COUNTIES LEVY TAXES?
Thanks.
Negro, that's a weak excuse. Even in Nigeria states do not collect Company Income Tax and VAT. The only difference here is Personal income tax and like you Kenyans have said, Nigerians don't pay tax. So that hardly explains how Lagos alone in three months generated more revenue than all of Kenya's 47 counties including "Africa's London" Nairobi ,generated in 9 months.
I think your answer is here:
https://www.ft.com/content/ff0595e4-26de-11e8-b27e-cc62a39d57a0

The Lagos economy is significantly bigger than that
of the whole of Kenya, east Africa’s most dynamic
country, with a nominal per capita income of more
than $5,000, more than double the Nigerian
average

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:11pm On May 07, 2018
rvp20182:
Try find something more credible. Kenya is not federal system..get the meaning of that..and understand our devolved units cannot levy taxes.
I am not sure you know the meaning of tax and what its categories are.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:13pm On May 07, 2018
obaaderemi:
Negro, that's a weak excuse. Even in Nigeria states do not collect Company Income Tax and VAT. The only difference here is Personal income tax and like you Kenyans have said, Nigerians don't pay tax. So that hardly explains how Lagos alone in three months generated more revenue than all of Kenya's 47 counties including "Africa's London" Nairobi ,generated in 9 months.
I think your answer is here:
https://www.ft.com/content/ff0595e4-26de-11e8-b27e-cc62a39d57a0

The Lagos economy is significantly bigger than that
of the whole of Kenya, east Africa’s most dynamic
country, with a nominal per capita income of more
than $5,000, more than double the Nigerian
average
lol..... it's cooked. According to our brothers from d east.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:53pm On May 07, 2018
rvp20182:
Precisely article 209 of our constitution makes that very clear
http://www.klrc.go.ke/index.php/constitution-of-kenya/149-chapter-twelve-public-finance/part-3-revenue-raising-powers-and-the-public-debt/378-209-power-to-impose-taxes-and-charges
209. POWER TO IMPOSE TAXES AND CHARGES
(1) Only the national government may impose --
(a) income tax;
(b) value-added tax;
(c) customs duties and other duties on import and export goods; and
(d) excise tax.

2) An Act of Parliament may authorise the national government to impose any other tax or duty, except a tax specified in clause (3) (a) or (b).
(3) A county may impose--
(a) property rates;
(b) entertainment taxes; and
(c) any other tax that it is authorised to impose by an Act of Parliament.

(4) The national and county governments may impose charges for services.
(5) The taxation and other revenue-raising powers of a county shall not be exercised in a way that prejudices national economic policies, economic activities across county boundaries or the national mobility of goods, services, capital or labour.

Some posts are purely redundant which is why this thread has gone on for so long. Isn't it obvious that counties can't impose tax!? Naijjans,is there anything you actually CAN comprehend on any level?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:14pm On May 07, 2018
naijalander:
All Kenyans know how to do is drink alcohol. Kenya is a nation of alcoholics, even Uhuru is always high, look at the guy!

Y lie, Kenyans love beer. But even a drunk Uhuru is better than a sober Buhari.

A drunk Kenyan will always be better than a sober Nigerian.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 2:49pm On May 07, 2018
obaaderemi:
Negro, that's a weak excuse. Even in Nigeria states do not collect Company Income Tax and VAT. The only difference here is Personal income tax and like you Kenyans have said, Nigerians don't pay tax. So that hardly explains how Lagos alone in three months generated more revenue than all of Kenya's 47 counties including "Africa's London" Nairobi ,generated in 9 months.
I think your answer is here:
https://www.ft.com/content/ff0595e4-26de-11e8-b27e-cc62a39d57a0

The Lagos economy is significantly bigger than that
of the whole of Kenya, east Africa’s most dynamic
country, with a nominal per capita income of more
than $5,000, more than double the Nigerian
average


They keep hating on Lagos,but we no send them.. grin .. Their GDP isn't expected to hit $100bn until 2025 according to the world bank and IMF.. if Lagos state govt can successfully kick off the proposed independent power supply for Lagos,plus the following mega projects under construction
- Dangote refinery
- Lekki deep seaport
- Badagry deep seaport
- Lagos transport restructuring
- Lekki airport
- EAC ...
Imagine how the GDP will b grin

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:53pm On May 07, 2018
naijalander:


You just described the opposite of devolution. If counties can't collect tax, how is there any devolution ongoing ?
Devolution means taking from the central government to the lower government - devolving funds in our case

The national government gives 15% of its revenue to the counties as a matter of law
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:56pm On May 07, 2018
naijalander:
All Kenyans know how to do is drink alcohol. Kenya is a nation of alcoholics, even Uhuru is always high, look at the guy!
Don't even bring presidents here for comparison. Not with your 3 months presidential sick leave holiday for an ear infection grin

In London ....
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 2:57pm On May 07, 2018
naijalander:
Lies. There are more alcoholics in Nairobi alone than in Nigeria put together. Population is misguiding you, if we break it down in percentages, Kenyans are effin drunkatds and you know it, why lie?

They even had to ban alcohol purchase last 8 pm at some point. Your countrymen are sick and you know it.





You aren't far from the truth oo..... Kenya with a population not up to half of Nigeria's actually consume just a little less litre of booze per year grin

https://m.howwe.biz/news/lifestyle/5288/10-biggest-alcohol-drinking-countries-in-africa

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 3:30pm On May 07, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Y lie, Kenyans love beer. But even a drunk Uhuru is better than a sober Buhari.

A drunk Kenyan will always be better than a sober Nigerian.
lol thats y ur economy Is still 70bn grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jason14: 3:33pm On May 07, 2018
Muafrika2:

Don't even bring presidents here for comparison. Not with your 3 months presidential sick leave holiday for an ear infection grin

In London ....
nope it wasn't for an ear infection , and d doctors that treated him in London are Nigerians grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:47pm On May 07, 2018
jason14:
nope it wasn't for an ear infection , and d doctors that treated him in London are Nigerians grin

Well, that was the official version. Hope the old man is doing well by the way. Dealing with you guys must be driving him crazy grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:06pm On May 07, 2018
Your states are more powerful than our counties. If Nairobi was allowed to levy even PAYE alone - it will collect more than 5B dollars. Nearly half of Kenya GDP is earned around Nairobi.

Again the least said about cooked GDP made in Nigeria the better for everyone.

obaaderemi:
Negro, that's a weak excuse. Even in Nigeria states do not collect Company Income Tax and VAT. The only difference here is Personal income tax and like you Kenyans have said, Nigerians don't pay tax. So that hardly explains how Lagos alone in three months generated more revenue than all of Kenya's 47 counties including "Africa's London" Nairobi ,generated in 9 months.
I think your answer is here:
https://www.ft.com/content/ff0595e4-26de-11e8-b27e-cc62a39d57a0

The Lagos economy is significantly bigger than that
of the whole of Kenya, east Africa’s most dynamic
country, with a nominal per capita income of more
than $5,000, more than double the Nigerian
average

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:09pm On May 07, 2018
It's obvious Nigeria consume a lot more brew than they should...if you consider 50% of pop is muslim...then it become obvious most of South Nigerian are permanently stoned - while the North Muslim are codeined - so basically Nigeria is another zoo like Zoomalia.

Kenya has drug problem but we've been fighting it - regulating the alcohol industry a lot and things are turning.


Danielnino00:




You aren't far from the truth oo..... Kenya with a population not up to half of Nigeria's actually consume just a little less litre of booze per year grin

https://m.howwe.biz/news/lifestyle/5288/10-biggest-alcohol-drinking-countries-in-africa
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 4:10pm On May 07, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Y lie, Kenyans love beer. But even a drunk Uhuru is better than a sober Buhari.

A drunk Kenyan will always be better than a sober Nigerian.


Whatever helps you sleep tonight. Uhuru is probably feasting on a bottle of Kenya King as we speak. Ruto is on his 35th carton of Tusker for today alone.


Abeg shift!

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