Abohboy:



Yea

jln115:
Brought is not the same as invented...... Do you even English bro?

Vlain:


Who is it party aspiring to provide as a presidential candidate.
Pls don't tell me sowore.

Vlain:


Lmao the supposed smart city has water thank on top of the buildings. Lol smart city with no plans for proper modern water channeling.

Get inspired by Kenya at Ur own peril. Apparently those buildings are luxury homes where people will pay through their front teeth to live in just like that over hyped relic in Karen for $1m.

jln115:
Dude you keep bringing up 1 city..........which FYI also traded slaves and made human sacrifices ............I can also cherry pick great European civilisations of the same time period.

Also Kimberly in South Africa was the first town in Africa and the first in the Southern Hemisphere to have street lights

Vlain:


[s]Lmao the supposed smart city has water thank on top of the buildings. Lol smart city with no plans for proper modern water channeling.

Get inspired by Kenya at Ur own peril. Apparently those buildings are luxury homes where people will pay through their front teeth to live in just like that over hyped relic in Karen for $1m.[/s]

kikuyu1:


Fyi,not many people know we're actually a water stressed nation. In fact we've 4 or 5 deserts,the Somali, Taru,Turkana and Chalbi. You W Africans with your tropical environment have no idea what that means!

gallivant:

Abohboy:


It’s not Sowore or seun Kuti they are looking for Pan africanists with a socialist agenda who are spokespersons of the people and who are willing to suffer for the people. They are looking for a man of the people a true patriot, Sowore could support us but I don’t think he would be a good leader.

Vlain:


What we need is ore than a leader winning the presidential election. We need an hardcore pan Africanist as a leader . One that is willing to put his interest behind him and stand up to the wicked force of the west that constantly trying to oppress Africa and the global black family. A die-hard leader who is ready to put the interest of his country and continent first even if it means ending up like Gaddafi.

gallivant:


You need a leader who will fix your power issues and initiate a masterplan to save Nigerians from poverty. Let us handle the Pan Africanism at the AU headquarters and not poverty central. Thanks in advance.

Vlain:



[s]Our leader will save nigeria,Kenya and Africa at large.let that be your prayer point so U can skip being a puppet to the Chinese in the nearest future. It is bad enough that U've being reduced to toilet paper by the Indians,whites,Arabs. To add the Chinese will be a disaster I don't think Ur poverty zoo can survive. Did U get my point this time now cheers and be happy. Naija gat U bro [/s]

gallivant:


Thanks in advance.

gallivant:


You need a leader who will fix your power issues and initiate a masterplan to save Nigerians from poverty. Let us handle the Pan Africanism at the AU headquarters and not poverty central. Thanks in advance.

Vlain:


What we need is ore than a leader winning the presidential election. We need an hardcore pan Africanist as a leader . One that is willing to put his interest behind him and stand up to the wicked force of the west that constantly trying to oppress Africa and the global black family. A die-hard leader who is ready to put the interest of his country and continent first even if it means ending up like Gaddafi.

tylann:

No need for insults

The 'mfecane' is a characteristic product of South African liberal history used by the apartheid state to legitimate South Africa's racially unequal land division. Some astonishingly selective use or actual invention of evidence produced the myth of an internally-induced process of black-on-black destruction centring on Shaka's Zulu

The British claim that they were parrying a Zulu invasion is exposed as propaganda, and the connexions between the campaign and the white-instigated murder of Shaka are shown. In short, African societies did not generate the regional violence on their own. Rather, caught within the European net

kikuyu1:


YOU'VE forgotten ALREADY!? There was no mfecane wherein Shakas' empire building supposedly killed 2 mn Africans .
Firstly that would've been 50% of the entire population at the time. Here's an academic breakdown of that myth.


[url][/https://www.jstor.org/stable/182353?seq=1]



It's complete BS! Like the empty land myth: they say when the Dutch landed in Cape Town in 1652 the whole land was empty. When you ask why then were they in conflict with the Khoi Khoi a mere DECADE after their arrival you hear crickets!

Abohboy:


I don’t believe Africans were too dull, the Oyo empire, Kongo empire and Mali empire all had links to America they were active,t traded with the americas as far back as the 12th century, they got to the americas first what I’m challenging is the population of them. Also the slaves that came back to Africa didn’t come back to work the fields in Africa they came back as freedmen to Africa. You cannot deny the trans Atlantic slave trade they took over 20 million Africans from Africa and took them to the americas that cannot be denied do not put words in my mouth I have been researching African history for a few years now and I plan to study it additionally at university if time allows.

Justnotyou:


Introducing these things shouldn't be used as a testimony to support any of your misguided assumptions.

Electricity wasn't even that accessible prior to the 17th century, modern sewarage systems till the late 19th century, they all greatly benefited from the recent industrial revolution.


Still none of them were actually given to the native Africans for free as you'd like us to believe, Apartheid SA just 30 years ago had benches, stairs & beaches reserved for Europeans only talk less of the average Austine1213

kikuyu1:


No. While I see that figures been steadily falling from a high of 50 mn in the early 90s its still a GIVE EXAGGERATION.
Most Black Americans are either INDIGENOUS or Black European Catholics, the losers of the 100 years war who were deported as indentured servants.

Look at Anthony Johnson, one of the first Virginia dance owners. The story says he He came from Angola where he'd been purchased as a slave and 2 decades LATER he'd owning his own slaves? Really!? I smell BS. It DOESN'T make economic sense to extract such limited utility value from an enslaved human.

[[img]b]In 1621, Johnson was delivered to Virginia’s shores as an African captive, simply called “Antonio.” By the mid-17th century, he became a landowner newly named “Anthony Johnson.[/b]” His ability to gain freedom resembles the functions of indentured servitude, in which an unfree laborer is bound to work for a landowner for a specific length of time. [/img]
[url]https://www.aaihs.org/the-curious-history-of-anthony-johnson-from-captive-african-to-right-wing-talking-point//url]

Btw, THERE we're a bunker of other black slave owners who even owned white SLAVES!

kikuyu1:


No. While I see that figures been steadily falling from a high of 50 mn in the early 90s its still a GIVE EXAGGERATION.
Most Black Americans are either INDIGENOUS or Black European Catholics, the losers of the 100 years war who were deported as indentured servants.

Look at Anthony Johnson, one of the first Virginia dance owners. The story says he He came from Angola where he'd been purchased as a slave and 2 decades LATER he'd owning his own slaves? Really!? I smell BS. It DOESN'T make economic sense to extract such limited utility value from an enslaved human.

[[img]b]In 1621, Johnson was delivered to Virginia’s shores as an African captive, simply called “Antonio.” By the mid-17th century, he became a landowner newly named “Anthony Johnson.[/b]” His ability to gain freedom resembles the functions of indentured servitude, in which an unfree laborer is bound to work for a landowner for a specific length of time. [/img]
[url]https://www.aaihs.org/the-curious-history-of-anthony-johnson-from-captive-african-to-right-wing-talking-point//url]

Btw, THERE we're a bunker of other black slave owners who even owned white SLAVES!

mtisTheQubit:
Please someone explain to me ths..

have read a post here suggesting that there was no trans-Atlantic slave trade..and that what happened is that white people enslaved blacks who were already in America and even transferred some of ths slaves to Africa...I know we are walking in the twilight zone but people please, don't turn into white folks an their conspiracy theories...its not good for Africans at this time..just saying

Abohboy:


But there were Africans in the americas the point he is trying to make is that they inflated the figures of the slave trade to make it seem that there were never any Africans in the americas. We already had settlements and trade routes with them before the Europeans. We had a sizeable population of Africans within the americas, they obviously had to inflate the numbers of the slave trade to cover this up. There obviously was a slave trade but there also obviously were Africans in the americas before the Europeans.

mtisTheQubit:


but someone today denied that ths stuff never happened..that it was all lies ..

Abohboy:


Those numbers are likely highly inflated but nobody is denying the slave trade there was a slave trade but there were also Africans in The americas before there were Europeans there.

codemaniacs:


Slavery started in northern Africa after the fall of Egypt around the 10th century, the entire northern and north eastern Africa fell into slavery and e:uropeans and the euro-arabs enslaved northern Africans and taught them i:slam.

it was after they enslaved northern Africans then 800 years later ( late 1700s, early 1800s or 18 century ) they used the descendants of those northern Africans who were now m:uslims to attack the southwards and that's when conflict started happening across Africa...

the people who were enslaved in the 15th century were African Americans and other Africans on the American continent...

Abohboy:
When the Europeans were still pooing in their rivers and drinking bathing etc, in them and still pumping dirty water from the same rivers they pooed in the west Africans had provided welled waters to all communities, they had great cities, there was no poverty, they had money, there was no crime there were no doors. They had long straight paved roads made with clay and stone bricks. We were way more developed then the Europeans.

Abohboy:



Number one where’s your source and number two that still isn’t a slave trade they’re not buying the slaves like they did in America or Europe. They are being captured and you still haven’t proved that it was done in bini empire, Oyo empire, nri empire, Asante empire, Akan empire, limba empire, Wolof empire it was done in the Mali empire because those were influence by Islam. The point of this whole argument is that African belief systems and African morals never followed or allowed things like slave trades, robbery, murder etc. Which has been consistently proven because all the examples you’ve given are from arabic influenced parts of Africa. You can even go back the point was Christianity and Islam corrupted Africans and made us more criminality inclined, increased poverty, increased murder etc. East Africa was primarily muslim, so was the sahara so your simply proven my point day by day.

Abohboy:


But it wasn’t the first to have street lights and I don’t believe in those British claims